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05-11-2021 06:58
James___
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He's got the power; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8nCAoyRDI

It does help to keep the engine lubricated so it does need to be driven some.
Again, I do not watch porn and I, okay I admit it. I watch porn. It just reminds me of the cars I've owned.


With my GTO, it idled at 25 mph and it rocked when idling. It probably had the wrong gearing to go over 150 mph. It had the engine but power needs to be transferred. And we're back to the power grid. And with my GTO, cops always watched me because they heard me a couple blocks away.
Even a guy who owned a Dodge Viper liked revving his engine next to my Buick.
He had 10 cylinders to my 8 but I had the thump. And we're discussing the climate, right? And not American Made Muscle. Sorry, I'm in the wrong forum.

Edited on 05-11-2021 07:16
05-11-2021 07:25
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With the GTO, my brother Harold probably took it out street racing on Friday nights. I was in the Navy so didn't need it. Me and my father would spend time fixing bent push rods and a broken frame.
My brother couldn't work because of a foot that doctors were working on. My car probably meant more to him than it did to me. It sure as hell pissed off our mother. She said in the US, we drive 55.
Those crazy Americans.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k [/url]
05-11-2021 10:01
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James___ wrote: I never said you're an ape you chimpanzee. God are you stupid. You don't even know what primate you are. Don't you have consciousness yet or do you need another million years of evolution?

"Consciousness" is not the word you want. You mean to write "sentience" and no, I have never had any. I don't care much for it; it only gets me into trouble.

James___ wrote: @IBDM, if I am right, with the atmospheric air pressure of Venus, Earth and Mars, I have a mathematical formula that is within 0.0012 psi. Would that be an acceptable margin of error?

Not for a formula. Formulae don't have margins of error. "Margin of error" applies to statistical computations from data. The formulae used are simply the formulae. They are either correct or incorrect. Any formula that is incorrect but "close" is still incorrect.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
05-11-2021 15:56
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IBdaMann wrote:
James___ wrote: I never said you're an ape you chimpanzee. God are you stupid. You don't even know what primate you are. Don't you have consciousness yet or do you need another million years of evolution?

"Consciousness" is not the word you want. You mean to write "sentience" and no, I have never had any. I don't care much for it; it only gets me into trouble.

James___ wrote: @IBDM, if I am right, with the atmospheric air pressure of Venus, Earth and Mars, I have a mathematical formula that is within 0.0012 psi. Would that be an acceptable margin of error?

Not for a formula. Formulae don't have margins of error. "Margin of error" applies to statistical computations from data. The formulae used are simply the formulae. They are either correct or incorrect. Any formula that is incorrect but "close" is still incorrect.

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It would still be right. It'd be like saying gravity accelerates at 9.81 m/s. Besides, I'll be able to explain how 14.7 psi or 1.033 kgf/cm^2 became atmospheric air pressure and show the reasoning behind it. I think it will surprise people.
That's where the only thing I need to worry about is building. The only thing that matters right now is resolving my medical situation. That needs to happen so I can have my life back. It'd be nice to be able to do "normal" things again like going for a run. That's what my goal needs to be and everything else needs to wait until then. None of it matters if I can't do anything about it.
The worst part is the boredom because I can't always be working. I'll just have to try a modified form of meditation.
05-11-2021 16:28
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James___ wrote:It would still be right.

Not if it is incorrect.

James___ wrote:It'd be like saying gravity accelerates at 9.81 m/s.

Why would it be "like" that?

James___ wrote:Besides, I'll be able to explain how 14.7 psi or 1.033 kgf/cm^2 became atmospheric air pressure and show the reasoning behind it.

Would you like to explain your reasoning here, right now?

James___ wrote:I think it will surprise people.



Question: which of the two listed below is all that matters right now?

James___ wrote:That's where the only thing I need to worry about is building.

James___ wrote:The only thing that matters right now is resolving my medical situation.



James___ wrote: That needs to happen so I can have my life back.

You should quickly get your life on a milk carton.

James___ wrote: It'd be nice to be able to do "normal" things again like going for a run.

There's nothing normal about that, you freak.

James___ wrote:That's what my goal needs to be and everything else needs to wait until then. None of it matters if I can't do anything about it.
The worst part is the boredom because I can't always be working. I'll just have to try a modified form of meditation.

I'm not sure I completely follow you but have you tried changing up your porn, maybe try something different? That might take the edge off the boredom and who knows, you might find that porn matters more than your current goal.

Good luck.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
08-11-2021 11:43
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IBdaMann wrote:


Question: which of the two listed below is all that matters right now?

James___ wrote:That's where the only thing I need to worry about is building.

James___ wrote:The only thing that matters right now is resolving my medical situation.





The 2nd one clearly identifies itself. Did you somehow miss that? I thought you and ITN understood logic. What's humorous in a way is the way some science is based on logic yet it's wrong. This shows that logic is a fallacy by definition;
a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid.
08-11-2021 20:17
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
I feel really disappointed in this thread. Fully expected to learn about load-balancing, protection/safety, load shunting, rolling blackouts (popular in California), and all the finer details of the 'modern' electrical grid. I was under the impression that it has really changed a great deal from Tesla's design, just modernized equipment and automatic controls. All the same basic principles, even some of the original equipment, though manufactured modernly.

Instead, we don't even get to read the thrilling secrets, of the Norwegian Electric Grid...

A nuclear powered aircraft carrier, would be a steamboat... They heat water to do work, just with radiation. Really don't see our Navy letting a 'James' anywhere near a nuclear reactor...




I think it's yourself that you're disappointed in. Relay stations balance the grid like they always have

There are no 'relay stations'.
James___ wrote:
and power in the home is routed through circuit breakers or fuses. This last part shows how the technology has changed.

Hasn't changed much at all. Local grounding systems are now installed, and the circuit breakers can trip on more than just an overcurrent for certain circuits (such as a faulty ground reference or a faulty neutral reference), but that's about it.
James___ wrote:
The science was the same in Tesla's time as it is today. The equipment has changed but it still uses the same principles. It's not that complicated.

The equipment hasn't changed much, other than to computerize some of it.
James___ wrote:
A transformer (relays power)

A transformer is not a relay. Redefinition fallacy.
James___ wrote:
depending on its windings on one side when compared to the other will either step up or step down line voltage. A switching station operates at one voltage and redirects power where it's needed.

There are no 'switching stations'. Switches may appear anywhere along the line.
James___ wrote:
This is all pretty basic.

...and apparently you don't understand it.
James___ wrote:
I'd think that because generators were invented in America that an American would know this.

Not everyone studied electricity or electronics, dude.
James___ wrote:
This might show how dependent Americans have become on others to serve them.

What a concept! Capitalism! Americans serving Americans!
James___ wrote:
p.s., and for you Harvey, if my work on Bessler's wheel proves out, then the overbalance would replace water when considering how much electricity could be generated. And with the page I'm linking, it would be close because it considers a 90º rotation of the wheel. Water doesn't necessarily fill the buckets on top until after a bucket starts rotating downward.
https://www.teachengineering.org/lessons/view/cub_energy_lesson02

With that said, I think I'll just take my time and enjoy what I'm doing. And if you're wondering Harvey, someone living off grid or has no stream, etc. might find using gravity power an attractive option. This would make your opinion moot (subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty).

Gravity is not power. You cannot create energy out of nothing, dude. See the 1st law of thermodynamics. Magick Bessler wheels can't do it either.


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08-11-2021 20:41
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James___ wrote:
If A.C. generators are the "heart of the US electrical grid,

They aren't. Power plants are not part of the grid. There is no US electrical grid.
James___ wrote:
then capacitors are its "brain"

Capacitors have no intelligence.
James___ wrote:
which it couldn't work without.

It would, just not as well.
James___ wrote:
This is what makes A.C. more expensive than D.C. to generate.

It isn't.
James___ wrote:
When it needs to be distributed further than 2 miles from the generating station, then that is what makes it affordable.

A generator is not 2 miles long.
James___ wrote:
Also capacitors prevent a low or no voltage coming from the generator as well as "conditioning" line current.

No, they don't. The generator has no voltage 120 times a second. It's supposed to be that way.
James___ wrote:
It allows for a "clean" 50 Hz or 60 Hz current to be fed to transmission lines or to transformers on poles near your homes.

No, it doesn't. Capacitors are used to balance the impedance on the line.
James___ wrote:
You'll probably recognize the capacitor and will remembering seeing some around where you live. And with power outages in your neighbor, follow the electrical lines
and you'll probably see a round component on the pole, that would be your local transformer.
It gets knocked out, so does the power in your neighborhood.

Nope. Pole transformers feed only one or two homes or businesses.
James___ wrote:
p.s., and yes, those are large transformers at the capacitor bank.

Transformers are not required to be at capacitors.
James___ wrote:
Notice the transmission lines in the background? That is most likely a substation removing current from the transmission lines.

You don't remove current.
James___ wrote:
The transformers would be stepping down current

Transformers at substations step up current.
James___ wrote:
before it is processed (conditioned) by the capacitor bank.

Not a process.
James___ wrote:
And it's always possible that there's a small power plant feeding those transmission lines (adding power to the grid).

Large or small, they are not part of the grid.


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08-11-2021 20:51
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James___ wrote:
@Harvey, they might not mention the capacitor when talking about energy generation because it might be considered as part of the generator and gets overlooked.

Generators don't have capacitors.
James___ wrote:
I had to remember back to when I was a teenager. I was taught that alternators don't go bad, just the capacitor.

There is no capacitor in an alternator.
James___ wrote:
If you have an alternator go bad and go to the parts store, new or refurbished? A refurbished alternator should have new bearings, commutator brushes and capacitor. The armature and field coil and the housing will probably be reused as it, maybe cleaned up.

There is no capacitor in an alternator.
James___ wrote:
As for myself, I've owned both a 1967 GTO and a 1969 Buick GS 400 California Special. The GTO could go over 140 mph. And yet I can get into green energy and conservationism. That's where I guess having interests and pursing them didn't stop with Muscle Cars.

p.s., with capacitors, they can discharge stored energy in half cycles.

Capacitors do not have a frequency.
James___ wrote:
So if capacitors discharge at a rate of 120 times per second, that is 60 Hz.

Capacitors do not determine power line frequency.
James___ wrote:
By controlling the number of capacitors that can discharge into a generator or a power grid, then a flow rate of a specific Hz can be maintained.

Capacitors do not determine power line frequency.
James___ wrote:
Hopefully I've made it easy enough for you to understand.

But YOU don't understand.
James___ wrote:
p.s., it's possible that the capacitor on your alternator

There is no capacitor in an alternator.
James___ wrote:
has a rectifier built into it. If so then your d.c. battery would be supplying the initial charge to your alternator.

You don't need to charge up an alternator.
James___ wrote:
That might explain why trying to compression start a car with a dead battery isn't easy.

It's very easy, if you have a manual transmission (not common in cars these days).
James___ wrote:
And now we're talking about how the power grid is in your car.

There is no power grid in a car.
James___ wrote:
An example is your starter is 12 volts. Everything else runs off of 6 volts.

WRONG! There are 6v systems (including the starter, if any), and 12v systems. EVERYTHING in the car runs off the same system. 6v systems are rare these days. Almost all cars today use 12v systems. A couple use a 24v system.
James___ wrote:
I am purposely not mentioning after market sound systems, etc. Even an after market H.E.I. coil might require 12 volts.

You must use the coil for the system in your car, usually a 12v system. The computer signals that coil to fire with as little as 2v.


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08-11-2021 20:58
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James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
James___ wrote:If A.C. generators are the "heart of the US electrical grid, then capacitors are its "brain"

You didn't do too well on the SAT, I see. The correct answer is as follows:

Generators:Heart :: Capacitors:Hematopoietic Stem Cells

James___ wrote:This is what makes A.C. more expensive than D.C. to generate.

You're saying that the difference in cost is not due to the cost of the different equipment involved in each case, which is due to the differing scales of work involved in each case?

DC current would be prohibitively expensive on a city-wide scale, which is why AC exists for that purpose.

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Saying "Capacitors:Hematopoietic Stem Cells" would be wrong. A capacitor serves 2 specific functions within the electrical grid and how energy is generated.
It "charges" the armature

There are no capacitors in a generator.
James___ wrote:
while ensuring all generators are discharging the same Hz of current to the transformer/into the grid.

Capacitors do not determine power line frequency.
James___ wrote:
Generators can be out of phase when operating. Capacitors "condition" all phases to have the same Hz.

Capacitors do not determine power line frequency. They are not used to align phases of generators.
James___ wrote:
Your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs would be correct. The wording might be confusing to some. Some might confuse scale to mean the generation of energy itself and not the scale on which it is distributed which is what you are asking about. That is why A.C. current won out. It was cheaper when it's scale of distribution was increased. As for the public feud between Edison and Tesla, it only made Edison look bad.

p.s., with capacitors, they discharge automatically.

There is no automation. Capacitors just charge and discharge with the changing voltage.
James___ wrote:
This means that their input energy has to be regulated

Capacitors do not have 'input energy'. Regulators are not required for capacitors.
James___ wrote:
(think circuit breaker here)

Circuit breakers are not required for capacitors.
James___ wrote:
and the excess energy dumped off (grounded).

You do not need to 'dump off' excess energy. There is no excess energy.
James___ wrote:
This is where resistors could control the amount of energy going to the capacitors.

No resistors are used with capacitors on power lines.
James___ wrote:
Cars have them to control the line current in your ignition system.

The capacitor in the ignition circuit does not control 'line current'. There is no 'line current'.
James___ wrote:
At least cars that used carburetors and a distributor cap used resistors for that purpose.

Distributors do not require resistors. Most don't have any. Most cars today don't even have a distributor at all.


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08-11-2021 21:00
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IBdaMann wrote:
Capacitors do not modify frequency. They smooth out current.


Capacitors on power lines are not used to smooth out current.

They are used for impedance matching.


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08-11-2021 21:07
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James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Capacitors cannot adjust a generator. They can only smooth out current.




And now you're like a monkey flinging scat and hoping you hit something. You need to learn English son. You should have said
"Capacitors cannot adjust generators".
Capacitors adjust multiple generators.

Capacitors do not determine frequency or phase of a generator.
James___ wrote:
Multiple generators cannot be in precise rotation as they generate cycles of energy.

Yet they are. Precisely in sync.
James___ wrote:
A single generator can rotate at precisely 3,600 rpm. Notice how I did not say "at precisely 3.600 rpm"?

Paradox.
James___ wrote:
I mean you're the smart one here. What would you do if your generators were not in phase with each other which is pretty much impossible?

It is not only possible, it is essential.
James___ wrote:
And notice how I said "generators" and not "a generator"? A generator will be in phase with itself.

Nonsense statement.
James___ wrote:
I hope you don't tell me that some cars with a coil type point ignition distributor system used either a block type ballast resistor or an inline ballast resistor but never both because they'd decrease the current to the coil.

Resistors are not required in any ignition system.
James___ wrote:
What idiot doesn't know that? And everyone knows that the coil in an ignition system is a transformer in the power grid.

There is no power grid in a car. The coil is an autotransformer.
James___ wrote:
Why are you talking about the power grid for when I thought we were talking "shop" about cars?

He isn't. YOU are.
James___ wrote:
I will need to take a break from things and focus on my gravity powered engine.

Gravity is not power.
James___ wrote:
With having 2 resistors, they decrease the 12 volts from your battery or current from your alternator to what your coil requires.

Coils have no 'requirement'.
James___ wrote:
With 2 resistors your coil would only receive 1/2 of the energy that it needs to send to the spark plug.

Resistors are not required in ignition systems.
James___ wrote:
Still I think you guys can figure this stuff out. I'll most likely be back but have my own affairs to resolve.

Like actually learning electronics?

Rigggght.


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08-11-2021 21:10
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James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
James___ wrote:And now you're like a monkey flinging scat

I'm an ape throwing shit at the fan.




I never said you're an ape you chimpanzee. God are you stupid. You don't even know what primate you are. Don't you have consciousness yet or do you need another million years of evolution?

p.s., you're the reason why I'm glad I never had kids. Mein Gott comes to mind whatever that means. It's possible that I just need to relax and not worry about what I'm doing. It's a paradox. My medical situation is motivational.
At the same time, enjoy Christmas and New Years. I'll need to be back. It's just that I have a lot of work to finish.

@IBDM, if I am right, with the atmospheric air pressure of Venus, Earth and Mars, I have a mathematical formula that is within 0.0012 psi. Would that be an acceptable margin of error? 12/10000ths? I did come up with a value for the curvature of space itself. What does it mean? I don't know. I just figured out the math.

Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers used as data is not math.


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08-11-2021 21:43
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Capacitors cannot adjust a generator. They can only smooth out current.




And now you're like a monkey flinging scat and hoping you hit something. You need to learn English son. You should have said
"Capacitors cannot adjust generators".
Capacitors adjust multiple generators.

Capacitors do not determine frequency or phase of a generator.
James___ wrote:
Multiple generators cannot be in precise rotation as they generate cycles of energy.

Yet they are. Precisely in sync.
James___ wrote:
A single generator can rotate at precisely 3,600 rpm. Notice how I did not say "at precisely 3.600 rpm"?

Paradox.
James___ wrote:
I mean you're the smart one here. What would you do if your generators were not in phase with each other which is pretty much impossible?

It is not only possible, it is essential.
James___ wrote:
And notice how I said "generators" and not "a generator"? A generator will be in phase with itself.

Nonsense statement.
James___ wrote:
I hope you don't tell me that some cars with a coil type point ignition distributor system used either a block type ballast resistor or an inline ballast resistor but never both because they'd decrease the current to the coil.

Resistors are not required in any ignition system.
James___ wrote:
What idiot doesn't know that? And everyone knows that the coil in an ignition system is a transformer in the power grid.

There is no power grid in a car. The coil is an autotransformer.
James___ wrote:
Why are you talking about the power grid for when I thought we were talking "shop" about cars?

He isn't. YOU are.
James___ wrote:
I will need to take a break from things and focus on my gravity powered engine.

Gravity is not power.
James___ wrote:
With having 2 resistors, they decrease the 12 volts from your battery or current from your alternator to what your coil requires.

Coils have no 'requirement'.
James___ wrote:
With 2 resistors your coil would only receive 1/2 of the energy that it needs to send to the spark plug.

Resistors are not required in ignition systems.
James___ wrote:
Still I think you guys can figure this stuff out. I'll most likely be back but have my own affairs to resolve.

Like actually learning electronics?

Rigggght.



With a point gap ignition system a resistor is needed to limit how much current reaches the coil. Otherwise you could burn up your points or weld them closed. And you wouldn't want that would you?
08-11-2021 22:00
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Capacitors cannot adjust a generator. They can only smooth out current.




And now you're like a monkey flinging scat and hoping you hit something. You need to learn English son. You should have said
"Capacitors cannot adjust generators".
Capacitors adjust multiple generators.

Capacitors do not determine frequency or phase of a generator.
James___ wrote:
Multiple generators cannot be in precise rotation as they generate cycles of energy.

Yet they are. Precisely in sync.
James___ wrote:
A single generator can rotate at precisely 3,600 rpm. Notice how I did not say "at precisely 3.600 rpm"?

Paradox.
James___ wrote:
I mean you're the smart one here. What would you do if your generators were not in phase with each other which is pretty much impossible?

It is not only possible, it is essential.
James___ wrote:
And notice how I said "generators" and not "a generator"? A generator will be in phase with itself.

Nonsense statement.
James___ wrote:
I hope you don't tell me that some cars with a coil type point ignition distributor system used either a block type ballast resistor or an inline ballast resistor but never both because they'd decrease the current to the coil.

Resistors are not required in any ignition system.
James___ wrote:
What idiot doesn't know that? And everyone knows that the coil in an ignition system is a transformer in the power grid.

There is no power grid in a car. The coil is an autotransformer.
James___ wrote:
Why are you talking about the power grid for when I thought we were talking "shop" about cars?

He isn't. YOU are.
James___ wrote:
I will need to take a break from things and focus on my gravity powered engine.

Gravity is not power.
James___ wrote:
With having 2 resistors, they decrease the 12 volts from your battery or current from your alternator to what your coil requires.

Coils have no 'requirement'.
James___ wrote:
With 2 resistors your coil would only receive 1/2 of the energy that it needs to send to the spark plug.

Resistors are not required in ignition systems.
James___ wrote:
Still I think you guys can figure this stuff out. I'll most likely be back but have my own affairs to resolve.

Like actually learning electronics?

Rigggght.



With a point gap ignition system a resistor is needed to limit how much current reaches the coil.

Nope. No need.
James___ wrote:
Otherwise you could burn up your points or weld them closed.

Neither happens. No resistor.


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08-11-2021 22:14
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Capacitors cannot adjust a generator. They can only smooth out current.




And now you're like a monkey flinging scat and hoping you hit something. You need to learn English son. You should have said
"Capacitors cannot adjust generators".
Capacitors adjust multiple generators.

Capacitors do not determine frequency or phase of a generator.
James___ wrote:
Multiple generators cannot be in precise rotation as they generate cycles of energy.

Yet they are. Precisely in sync.
James___ wrote:
A single generator can rotate at precisely 3,600 rpm. Notice how I did not say "at precisely 3.600 rpm"?

Paradox.
James___ wrote:
I mean you're the smart one here. What would you do if your generators were not in phase with each other which is pretty much impossible?

It is not only possible, it is essential.
James___ wrote:
And notice how I said "generators" and not "a generator"? A generator will be in phase with itself.

Nonsense statement.
James___ wrote:
I hope you don't tell me that some cars with a coil type point ignition distributor system used either a block type ballast resistor or an inline ballast resistor but never both because they'd decrease the current to the coil.

Resistors are not required in any ignition system.
James___ wrote:
What idiot doesn't know that? And everyone knows that the coil in an ignition system is a transformer in the power grid.

There is no power grid in a car. The coil is an autotransformer.
James___ wrote:
Why are you talking about the power grid for when I thought we were talking "shop" about cars?

He isn't. YOU are.
James___ wrote:
I will need to take a break from things and focus on my gravity powered engine.

Gravity is not power.
James___ wrote:
With having 2 resistors, they decrease the 12 volts from your battery or current from your alternator to what your coil requires.

Coils have no 'requirement'.
James___ wrote:
With 2 resistors your coil would only receive 1/2 of the energy that it needs to send to the spark plug.

Resistors are not required in ignition systems.
James___ wrote:
Still I think you guys can figure this stuff out. I'll most likely be back but have my own affairs to resolve.

Like actually learning electronics?

Rigggght.



With a point gap ignition system a resistor is needed to limit how much current reaches the coil.

Nope. No need.
James___ wrote:
Otherwise you could burn up your points or weld them closed.

Neither happens. No resistor.


In high schol I bought a 1980 Cutlass with an Oldsmobile 350 in it. One day it stopped running and I noticed a cracked resistor. I bypassed it and I was on my way.

I totally forgot about it and 3 times in the following months I had fried the distributor points. If memory serves me I had a fried coil once or twice also. Only after replacing the resistor did the problem go away.

Just my experience.


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GasGuzzler wrote:One day it stopped running and I noticed a cracked resistor. I bypassed it and I was on my way.

Resistance is futile. All will be assimilated.

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09-11-2021 00:24
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Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.
09-11-2021 02:03
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.



With what you're saying is that you can overload either a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it. Sure sounds like Kentucky corn whiskey talking. I think sober people know they work.
09-11-2021 02:06
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IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:One day it stopped running and I noticed a cracked resistor. I bypassed it and I was on my way.

Resistance is futile. All will be assimilated.

.



Can the Borg overcome a faulty circuit? What quadrant are you in? And your stardate. We need to know if we are dealing with a temporal anomaly. Do you have a quantum signature to verify what multiverse you are from? Borgs will be deleted as required.
09-11-2021 02:38
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Capacitors cannot adjust a generator. They can only smooth out current.




And now you're like a monkey flinging scat and hoping you hit something. You need to learn English son. You should have said
"Capacitors cannot adjust generators".
Capacitors adjust multiple generators.

Capacitors do not determine frequency or phase of a generator.
James___ wrote:
Multiple generators cannot be in precise rotation as they generate cycles of energy.

Yet they are. Precisely in sync.
James___ wrote:
A single generator can rotate at precisely 3,600 rpm. Notice how I did not say "at precisely 3.600 rpm"?

Paradox.
James___ wrote:
I mean you're the smart one here. What would you do if your generators were not in phase with each other which is pretty much impossible?

It is not only possible, it is essential.
James___ wrote:
And notice how I said "generators" and not "a generator"? A generator will be in phase with itself.

Nonsense statement.
James___ wrote:
I hope you don't tell me that some cars with a coil type point ignition distributor system used either a block type ballast resistor or an inline ballast resistor but never both because they'd decrease the current to the coil.

Resistors are not required in any ignition system.
James___ wrote:
What idiot doesn't know that? And everyone knows that the coil in an ignition system is a transformer in the power grid.

There is no power grid in a car. The coil is an autotransformer.
James___ wrote:
Why are you talking about the power grid for when I thought we were talking "shop" about cars?

He isn't. YOU are.
James___ wrote:
I will need to take a break from things and focus on my gravity powered engine.

Gravity is not power.
James___ wrote:
With having 2 resistors, they decrease the 12 volts from your battery or current from your alternator to what your coil requires.

Coils have no 'requirement'.
James___ wrote:
With 2 resistors your coil would only receive 1/2 of the energy that it needs to send to the spark plug.

Resistors are not required in ignition systems.
James___ wrote:
Still I think you guys can figure this stuff out. I'll most likely be back but have my own affairs to resolve.

Like actually learning electronics?

Rigggght.



With a point gap ignition system a resistor is needed to limit how much current reaches the coil.

Nope. No need.
James___ wrote:
Otherwise you could burn up your points or weld them closed.

Neither happens. No resistor.


In high schol I bought a 1980 Cutlass with an Oldsmobile 350 in it. One day it stopped running and I noticed a cracked resistor. I bypassed it and I was on my way.

I used to have one of those! Yes, bypassing the resistor wasn't a good idea on those cars.
GasGuzzler wrote:
I totally forgot about it and 3 times in the following months I had fried the distributor points. If memory serves me I had a fried coil once or twice also. Only after replacing the resistor did the problem go away.

Just my experience.

This particular car used a resistor in the ignition system (not normally required). The coil itself was wound with too few turns, and cause excessive current to flow across the points during dwell. The capacitor was not set to resonate properly with that coil, and upon opening, an arc would develop across the contacts.

The purpose of the resistor in those cars was to cover up for bad design by reducing the Q of the ignition circuit.

Battery ignition circuits in cars depend on resonance. Without it, the spark plug would never fire. That resonance is provided by the coil itself as the inductor (which also acts as an autotransformer), and the capacitor (also called a 'condenser') usually mounted on the body somewhere, and sometimes in the distributor itself (where it often fails due to heat).

The points on the low circuit side of the distributor trigger the resonance at a specified time. The resulting pulse is stepped up by the transformer to a couple thousand volts (but low current, which is stepped down). This is enough to easily cross the gap in the spark plug under atmosphere conditions.

The inside of a cylinder is NOT under atmospheric conditions. It is highly compressed gasses. Shoving a spark across a plug in these conditions is much harder. The ignition system is designed to work under these adverse conditions.

People often test plugs by taking them out and letting them spark against an engine casing, looking for 'a good spark' (not a weak yellow one). This really isn't a good test, since that same plug can fail under the harsh conditions in the cylinder itself.

It is better to test the plug under similar compression (called a bomb test). This is how aircraft plugs are tested.

Resistors are normally not required, but are used on some ignition systems to cover up a bad match between coil and capacitor. It weakens the spark to use these, but it helps to save the points. They are a band-aid for poor design (including in the Cutlass).

In today's cars, no distributor. No points. Everything is done by the computer (FADEC, or Full Authority Digital Engine Control). The computer reads a timing signal from a crank sensor and another from a cam sensor. Low voltage ignition systems are used, so no thick wires anywhere either. Each spark plug has it's own little coil and capacitor combination, and a power transistor to replace the old mechanical points. These are often called 'coil packs' or 'ignition packs'. A simple current from the computer (about an amp at most) is enough to fire the plug.

Low voltage ignition means less loss because there are no high voltage wires. It's safer too. Less fires caused by such wire insulation breaking down. No more points to adjust or wear out. No fixed setting compensated for using a vacuum line (distributor advance). The computer knows exactly when to fire each plug, and how long to 'dwell' for the coil pack in use.

No carburetor either. It's all multi-point fuel injected now, again controlled by the computer. Primary fuel metering is through a mass airflow sensor (that thing somewhere along the 'shnozz' leading to the throttle body). This means fuel won't come out of suspension along an induction system, meaning much more efficient use of fuel.

Sensor **** up? Something not looking quite right? The computer will throw a code and alert you on the dash. Some even have a little microphone mounted on the engine somewhere to listen for proper burn, knock, or a miss. Like a permanent electronic version of listening to the engine with a stick against your head, but for the computer, and it's always there. The computer can use this information to better detect problems and throw an appropriate code, alerting you to where the problem lies.

The ignition is still basically the same circuit, but is now duplicated for each cylinder and computer triggered.

This circuit is known as a battery ignition circuit. It uses a battery (charged by the alternator) to power the circuit.

Magneto ignition uses a little generator to light up a plug. You still find these on lawnmowers and other small engines, and also on aircraft (even ones with batteries!).


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09-11-2021 02:42
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Into the Night wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:

Capacitors cannot adjust a generator. They can only smooth out current.




And now you're like a monkey flinging scat and hoping you hit something. You need to learn English son. You should have said
"Capacitors cannot adjust generators".
Capacitors adjust multiple generators.

Capacitors do not determine frequency or phase of a generator.
James___ wrote:
Multiple generators cannot be in precise rotation as they generate cycles of energy.

Yet they are. Precisely in sync.
James___ wrote:
A single generator can rotate at precisely 3,600 rpm. Notice how I did not say "at precisely 3.600 rpm"?

Paradox.
James___ wrote:
I mean you're the smart one here. What would you do if your generators were not in phase with each other which is pretty much impossible?

It is not only possible, it is essential.
James___ wrote:
And notice how I said "generators" and not "a generator"? A generator will be in phase with itself.

Nonsense statement.
James___ wrote:
I hope you don't tell me that some cars with a coil type point ignition distributor system used either a block type ballast resistor or an inline ballast resistor but never both because they'd decrease the current to the coil.

Resistors are not required in any ignition system.
James___ wrote:
What idiot doesn't know that? And everyone knows that the coil in an ignition system is a transformer in the power grid.

There is no power grid in a car. The coil is an autotransformer.
James___ wrote:
Why are you talking about the power grid for when I thought we were talking "shop" about cars?

He isn't. YOU are.
James___ wrote:
I will need to take a break from things and focus on my gravity powered engine.

Gravity is not power.
James___ wrote:
With having 2 resistors, they decrease the 12 volts from your battery or current from your alternator to what your coil requires.

Coils have no 'requirement'.
James___ wrote:
With 2 resistors your coil would only receive 1/2 of the energy that it needs to send to the spark plug.

Resistors are not required in ignition systems.
James___ wrote:
Still I think you guys can figure this stuff out. I'll most likely be back but have my own affairs to resolve.

Like actually learning electronics?

Rigggght.



With a point gap ignition system a resistor is needed to limit how much current reaches the coil.

Nope. No need.
James___ wrote:
Otherwise you could burn up your points or weld them closed.

Neither happens. No resistor.


In high schol I bought a 1980 Cutlass with an Oldsmobile 350 in it. One day it stopped running and I noticed a cracked resistor. I bypassed it and I was on my way.

I used to have one of those! Yes, bypassing the resistor wasn't a good idea on those cars.
GasGuzzler wrote:
I totally forgot about it and 3 times in the following months I had fried the distributor points. If memory serves me I had a fried coil once or twice also. Only after replacing the resistor did the problem go away.

Just my experience.

This particular car used a resistor in the ignition system (not normally required). The coil itself was wound with too few turns, and cause excessive current to flow across the points during dwell. The capacitor was not set to resonate properly with that coil, and upon opening, an arc would develop across the contacts.

The purpose of the resistor in those cars was to cover up for bad design by reducing the Q of the ignition circuit.

Battery ignition circuits in cars depend on resonance. Without it, the spark plug would never fire. That resonance is provided by the coil itself as the inductor (which also acts as an autotransformer), and the capacitor (also called a 'condenser') usually mounted on the body somewhere, and sometimes in the distributor itself (where it often fails due to heat).

The points on the low circuit side of the distributor trigger the resonance at a specified time. The resulting pulse is stepped up by the transformer to a couple thousand volts (but low current, which is stepped down). This is enough to easily cross the gap in the spark plug under atmosphere conditions.

The inside of a cylinder is NOT under atmospheric conditions. It is highly compressed gasses. Shoving a spark across a plug in these conditions is much harder. The ignition system is designed to work under these adverse conditions.

People often test plugs by taking them out and letting them spark against an engine casing, looking for 'a good spark' (not a weak yellow one). This really isn't a good test, since that same plug can fail under the harsh conditions in the cylinder itself.

It is better to test the plug under similar compression (called a bomb test). This is how aircraft plugs are tested.

Resistors are normally not required, but are used on some ignition systems to cover up a bad match between coil and capacitor. It weakens the spark to use these, but it helps to save the points. They are a band-aid for poor design (including in the Cutlass).

In today's cars, no distributor. No points. Everything is done by the computer (FADEC, or Full Authority Digital Engine Control). The computer reads a timing signal from a crank sensor and another from a cam sensor. Low voltage ignition systems are used, so no thick wires anywhere either. Each spark plug has it's own little coil and capacitor combination, and a power transistor to replace the old mechanical points. These are often called 'coil packs' or 'ignition packs'. A simple current from the computer (about an amp at most) is enough to fire the plug.

Low voltage ignition means less loss because there are no high voltage wires. It's safer too. Less fires caused by such wire insulation breaking down. No more points to adjust or wear out. No fixed setting compensated for using a vacuum line (distributor advance). The computer knows exactly when to fire each plug, and how long to 'dwell' for the coil pack in use.

No carburetor either. It's all multi-point fuel injected now, again controlled by the computer. Primary fuel metering is through a mass airflow sensor (that thing somewhere along the 'shnozz' leading to the throttle body). This means fuel won't come out of suspension along an induction system, meaning much more efficient use of fuel.

Sensor **** up? Something not looking quite right? The computer will throw a code and alert you on the dash. Some even have a little microphone mounted on the engine somewhere to listen for proper burn, knock, or a miss. Like a permanent electronic version of listening to the engine with a stick against your head, but for the computer, and it's always there. The computer can use this information to better detect problems and throw an appropriate code, alerting you to where the problem lies.

The ignition is still basically the same circuit, but is now duplicated for each cylinder and computer triggered.

This circuit is known as a battery ignition circuit. It uses a battery (charged by the alternator) to power the circuit.

Magneto ignition uses a little generator to light up a plug. You still find these on lawnmowers and other small engines, and also on aircraft (even ones with batteries!).



And now we know why Native Americans were put on reservations. There simply wasn't a boat big enough to put them on. Just a "dig" at ITN.
09-11-2021 02:45
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.


If the fuse or breaker isn't tripping at it's rated load limit, it is a fire hazard and should be replaced.

Houses today have wiring rated for at least 15A per circuit. That's been code requirement for a long time. Most newer houses are all rated at 20A per circuit.

A saw rarely binds to the point of stalling. It will usually throw something at you first!


If a motor stalls, it may indeed draw enough current to trip the breaker.


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09-11-2021 02:48
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.



With what you're saying is that you can overload either a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it. Sure sounds like Kentucky corn whiskey talking. I think sober people know they work.


You can't overload a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it.

A fuse is pretty reliable. It will blow when the indicated current is exceeded for more than a fraction of a second. A circuit breaker might be broken. If that is the case, there effectively is NO BREAKER on the circuit. A serious fire hazard exists until the breaker is replaced.


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Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

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09-11-2021 03:05
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.



With what you're saying is that you can overload either a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it. Sure sounds like Kentucky corn whiskey talking. I think sober people know they work.


You can't overload a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it.

A fuse is pretty reliable. It will blow when the indicated current is exceeded for more than a fraction of a second. A circuit breaker might be broken. If that is the case, there effectively is NO BREAKER on the circuit. A serious fire hazard exists until the breaker is replaced.



Maybe he doesn't know how poorly Native Americans have been treated?
It's kind of like how you showed he doesn't know electrical power distribution.
I know, reservations are for people on business trips. I'll try to remember that, okay?
09-11-2021 04:32
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09-11-2021 07:33
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.



With what you're saying is that you can overload either a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it. Sure sounds like Kentucky corn whiskey talking. I think sober people know they work.


Nope, what I'm saying is that your excuse for cutting your fingers, doesn't float, and why. It was operator error
10-11-2021 02:54
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.



With what you're saying is that you can overload either a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it. Sure sounds like Kentucky corn whiskey talking. I think sober people know they work.


Nope, what I'm saying is that your excuse for cutting your fingers, doesn't float, and why. It was operator error



So you're "faulting" me for working through trauma? Not sure why you have an issue with that for. It speaks to a lack of moral character on your part. It's like you vote Republican while they ship American jobs to China. But as people like you say, it's about you. Sure hope you pay for your own healthcare when you retire. It's what Republicans want.

p.s., With an SSTG, they use what's known as an Excited to keep the armature of the generator charged. The one in the engine room I worked in was rated at 1,500 Kw.
I was also qualified for that watch station. If I would've stayed in, throttled an and Top Watch would've been the next 2 watches I could've qualified for. So basically I was very familiar with engine room operations. Kind of why with both atmospheric I can understand the process. I considered what system would allow for what's observed.
And with the experiments that would be helpful, I've learned a lot about science over the years by spending some of my leisure time learning. And I think it will help me to have a life as a result. I knew what I was up against with my hearing loss. Discrimination does make things difficult and there are a lot of people who might appreciate what I'm doing. And I know you're jealous. I get that a lot from Christians.
Nothing in the Bible says not to take an interest in things but you guys act like it does.

p.s.s., One of the purposes of this thread was to consider the amount of energy the U.SU.S. requires and what it takes to meet that demand. At the same time, the current power grid needs a lot of maintenance.
An FYI for you Harvey, gas fired power plants basically have to run continuously. Since demand for power decreases at night, would have a trans-continental power grid make sense?
An example is Europe is 5 hours ahead of us. Could we supply their electrical grid when we're burning coal but not producing energy with it? That would reduce emissions while better managing non-renewable sources of energy. That's Western Europe.
But you'd rather attack me.
Edited on 10-11-2021 03:06
10-11-2021 05:43
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Being consistently wrong, I came to the conclusion James was deliberately being ignorant. But, considering his surgical skills, with a power saw...

Which reminds me.. If your house wiring can't handle 10 amps, and the breaker isn't tripping, the wires get hot, insulation melts, house burns down. Not sure about Kentucky Redneck electrical codes... 10 amp rating on the motor, is it's no load current, and that's without the saw attached to it. The current goes up, when you do work with it. There is also a stall current rating for motors, which is a lot higher.



With what you're saying is that you can overload either a fuse or a circuit breaker without tripping it. Sure sounds like Kentucky corn whiskey talking. I think sober people know they work.


Nope, what I'm saying is that your excuse for cutting your fingers, doesn't float, and why. It was operator error



So you're "faulting" me for working through trauma? Not sure why you have an issue with that for. It speaks to a lack of moral character on your part.

No, on YOURS.
James___ wrote:
It's like you vote Republican while they ship American jobs to China.

Republicans are not shipping American jobs to China. Oppressive laws passed by DEMOCRATS is why jobs to offshore.
James___ wrote:
But as people like you say, it's about you. Sure hope you pay for your own healthcare when you retire. It's what Republicans want.

I already pay for my own healthcare. Universal healthcare doesn't work. Communism doesn't work.
James___ wrote:
p.s., With an SSTG, they use what's known as an Excited to keep the armature of the generator charged. The one in the engine room I worked in was rated at 1,500 Kw.

I don't believe you. You never worked in an engine room of any ship.
James___ wrote:
I was also qualified for that watch station.
If I would've stayed in, throttled an and Top Watch would've been the next 2 watches I could've qualified for. So basically I was very familiar with engine room operations. Kind of why with both atmospheric I can understand the process. I considered what system would allow for what's observed.

You never worked an in engine room aboard ship.
James___ wrote:
And with the experiments that would be helpful, I've learned a lot about science over the years by spending some of my leisure time learning.

You deny science.
James___ wrote:
And I think it will help me to have a life as a result.

A life of making Bessler wheels and whining. What a life.
James___ wrote:
I knew what I was up against with my hearing loss.

Whining.
James___ wrote:
Discrimination does make things difficult and there are a lot of people who might appreciate what I'm doing.

Whining.
James___ wrote:
And I know you're jealous. I get that a lot from Christians.

Irrelevance fallacy.
James___ wrote:
Nothing in the Bible says not to take an interest in things but you guys act like it does.

Irrelevance fallacy.
James___ wrote:
p.s.s., One of the purposes of this thread was to consider the amount of energy the U.SU.S. requires and what it takes to meet that demand.

RQAA.
James___ wrote:
At the same time, the current power grid needs a lot of maintenance.

So?
James___ wrote:
An FYI for you Harvey, gas fired power plants basically have to run continuously.

No, they don't.
James___ wrote:
Since demand for power decreases at night, would have a trans-continental power grid make sense?

No. Losses are too high and there's no point to it.
James___ wrote:
An example is Europe is 5 hours ahead of us. Could we supply their electrical grid when we're burning coal but not producing energy with it?

If we're not producing energy with coal, why burn it?
James___ wrote:
That would reduce emissions

CO2 is not a pollutant. It has absolutely no capability to warm the Earth.
James___ wrote:
while better managing non-renewable sources of energy.

By putting it into power line losses???!?
James___ wrote:
That's Western Europe.
But you'd rather attack me.

Because you're a whiner. You deny science. You deny engineering. You deny mathematics. You spend your time whining, making up random phrases, spewing random equations, and have no clue about engineering, power generation, or power distribution grids.


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