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28-09-2017 23:13
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

Commerce is predictable. It follows economic models that work. We know that people have need to buy and sell things. We know that the things in the market increase and change according to the will of the buyers and sellers of that market. We know what happens when thieves like governments enter the picture to try to seize the accumulated wealth, or micromanage it.

<snipped a bunch of comments and typical irrelevant responses from Parrot Killer>

L8112 wrote:
what does this mean?

It means you're full of shit.
L8112 wrote:
it means no 'kingdom' for you, treasures, status, wealth etc.. its all going to be flushed down the toilet as the chaotic fractal that is commerce flies apart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you know how cities are built???

Let's take a modest example, l like Seattle, WA.

Before Seattle, there was nothing here but forest, rain, and a few indians.

Explorers discovered Puget Sound, <history of Seattle snipped, for brevity>

All from NOTHING.


That's quite an interesting story, Parrot Killer. But it has not much to do with what L8112 [Late One Twelve? One of the Twelve? Leaders of Humanity, who can sit with the Master?] is talking about. This is what he appears to be talking about, and I think he is absolutely correct. It's from the Bible. You just said you support your church, so you have to at least know about the Bible. It gets hard to read sometimes, though, especially when it starts talking about things in the future, that we don't want to worry about today. But you know what? It's not really about being in the good graces of the Church, or paying your tithes do stay there. Nope, not about money at all.

This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:
11 "And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14 The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you,[e] and you shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.' Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What is like this great city?'

19 "They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.'


That's talking about the Fall of Babylon the Great. It is the greatest empire on the earth. And so full of its self that the people have no fear. Yet they fall. It turns out that success does not necessarily mean continuity. In other words, just because you are strong and powerful in your business, and everything is going right for you, it can all change before the end of the day. And, one day, it will all change, just as L8112 is predicting.

What makes you think Babylon the Great is any particular place like Europe or the United States? Maybe Babylon the Great is actually the Babylonian empire, which has already fallen?
GreenMan wrote:
And, logically speaking, he is right as well. We are currently living in a false economy.

No, it's a real economy, with real products being bought and sold.
GreenMan wrote:
We are propping our current economy up by borrowing against our children and grandchildren's future wages.

The government(s) may be, but that will become their problem. People will still continue to have an economy without them, or under a different government.
GreenMan wrote:
And at the same time, we are destroying their ability to live.

We are healthier, wealthier, and having more fun than anybody has ever had. This is destruction???
GreenMan wrote:
How long do you think we can hold a candle that is burning at both ends, before getting burned?

You might try either putting the candle in a holder, or learn how to light candles, or both.


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28-09-2017 23:14
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GasGuzler wrote:
GreenStuff wrote:
And, logically speaking, he is right as well. We are currently living in a false economy. We are propping our current economy up by borrowing against our children and grandchildren's future wages. And at the same time, we are destroying their ability to live. How long do you think we can hold a candle that is burning at both ends, before getting burned?


I won't address all the prophecy stuff, but I do have to ask you about this.

If you really feel this is a growing problem, why do you stand with the Democrat party, specifically the likes of Obama, who racked up more debt than all other presidents combined?


Heh. Watch THIS one get denied!


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28-09-2017 23:31
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GasGuzler wrote: If you really feel this is a growing problem, why do you stand with the Democrat party, specifically the likes of Obama, who racked up more debt than all other presidents combined?


This is the thing I've never managed to understand. These low life will talk about mortgaging off the future of our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren but never bat an eye at the fact that this mortgaging came at their very own hands.

And you are not exaggerating since I ran the numbers from George Washington and indeed Obama spent more money in his first THREE years than all of the previous Presidents combined.
29-09-2017 03:19
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

Commerce is predictable. It follows economic models that work. We know that people have need to buy and sell things. We know that the things in the market increase and change according to the will of the buyers and sellers of that market. We know what happens when thieves like governments enter the picture to try to seize the accumulated wealth, or micromanage it.

<snipped a bunch of comments and typical irrelevant responses from Parrot Killer>

L8112 wrote:
what does this mean?

It means you're full of shit.
L8112 wrote:
it means no 'kingdom' for you, treasures, status, wealth etc.. its all going to be flushed down the toilet as the chaotic fractal that is commerce flies apart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you know how cities are built???

Let's take a modest example, l like Seattle, WA.

Before Seattle, there was nothing here but forest, rain, and a few indians.

Explorers discovered Puget Sound, <history of Seattle snipped, for brevity>

All from NOTHING.


That's quite an interesting story, Parrot Killer. But it has not much to do with what L8112 [Late One Twelve? One of the Twelve? Leaders of Humanity, who can sit with the Master?] is talking about. This is what he appears to be talking about, and I think he is absolutely correct. It's from the Bible. You just said you support your church, so you have to at least know about the Bible. It gets hard to read sometimes, though, especially when it starts talking about things in the future, that we don't want to worry about today. But you know what? It's not really about being in the good graces of the Church, or paying your tithes do stay there. Nope, not about money at all.

This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:
11 "And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14 The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you,[e] and you shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.' Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What is like this great city?'

19 "They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.'


That's talking about the Fall of Babylon the Great. It is the greatest empire on the earth. And so full of its self that the people have no fear. Yet they fall. It turns out that success does not necessarily mean continuity. In other words, just because you are strong and powerful in your business, and everything is going right for you, it can all change before the end of the day. And, one day, it will all change, just as L8112 is predicting.

What makes you think Babylon the Great is any particular place like Europe or the United States? Maybe Babylon the Great is actually the Babylonian empire, which has already fallen?

Seems like a paradox, does it not? How can an empire that fell thousands of years ago, fall again during the End of Days fulfillment? Maybe the prophets got the name wrong? Or could it be that what we call Ancient Babylon never really existed?

When Cyrus the Great of Persia conquered the area around Jerusalem, he allowed the Jewish people to return to Jerusalem, and there was no one left to otherwise dissuade them. They thought that Cyrus the Great must be Cyrus of Isaiah 44 & 45, who was to come and free them from captivity in Babylon. So naturally, they concluded that where they had been living must be Babylon, and they started calling it that. The name of the empire lingers today, because we get our version of history from them. The people who the Jews lived with at the time did not refer to themselves as Babylonians, or their empire as Babylon. They were not Babylonians.

The Babylonians are destroyed during the End of Days [End of Warm Period - This Interglacian Period's End] fulfillment, and they are a might empire that is completely fearless. They are described throughout the prophecies of the Bible as powerful, rich, arrogant, and spiritually inept. They would worship a false God, which they themselves created [kinda like what the Jews did when Moses left them alone for a few days while he talked to God on the mountain]. Moses warned us about the God they would create for themselves, and described him pretty good. He said their God [he referred to them as people of Jeshurun (which is commonly understood to be the same as Israel, but it's not, it's Babylon, or it might be that we are to understand that current Israel is Babylon, and Israel and Jeshurun are the same. But when you read the description of their God, it sounds more like the Christian God, than the Jewish one, which they don't try to define.)] Their God would live in the clouds, and help people.

So anyway, they are evil people, who are destroyed, before the destruction takes place. Or perhaps, they are the people who are destroyed at the beginning of the destructive period described. They are the people that Christians think they will unite with Jesus to fight in the Last War. Of course, that is a misunderstanding by Christians, caused by their high opinion of themselves. Of course they are on the winning side, right?

It would be easy to conclude that Babylon is all of Christianity and Judaism rolled into one, but there is a lot of things that indicate it is a sovereign nation, even though it is described as a city in that prophecy. I think it is a description of what we call the Western World today. And that would be all of Europe, the Americas and parts of Asia. [Feel free to include or delete parts that you don't consider Western World].

An interesting observation. I looked last year at a map that showed areas on the globe that produced the most Greenhouse Gases. I compared it to a map that showed which religions dominated which areas. You can overlay Christian areas of the world on CO2 producing areas of the world with almost no discrepancy. They match almost exactly. And if you think about it, Christian dominated nations are the industrial backbone of the world. I'm not thinking that has anything to do with religion. But it could. [Just went through it, and it does, but it's ugly and I shouldn't go into it here]. Ok, they created their God, who will protect them in the afterlife, so they don't give a damn about what happens to the planet because of them. They have God in their pocket, and a promise from God to give them a brand new world to live in when they die, and then the world dies. So if the world dies, then they get to claim their prize. It's that total disregard for nature that allowed them to get their shoulders above the rest of humanity. That attitude got us here, and it is going to destroy us in the near future.

We shouldn't even need laws to prevent pollution. People should be responsible enough on their own to not pollute their environment. But we still get it, even with the laws we have on the books, because it is cheaper to just dump our shit in the rivers. And that is what they used to do, before the laws made it illegal.

We don't look at CO2 the same as other industrial byproducts that are disposed of in a sanitary way. But we should, because it is basically like dumping a poison into the water. It kills those down stream. We currently do not even consider those down stream of us, as we run around in our cars in our busy, busy worlds, and then run back home to our climate controlled castles, to enjoy the lasted reality show. But it catches up with us. It has caught up with us. People like me aren't out here to give you a hard time. We are out here to warn you about what is going to happen. It doesn't really matter if you like it or not, you are about to get your ass whipped. Do you understand? It doesn't matter if you want to stand there and argue like a child about how it wasn't your fault. You are going to get your ass whipped anyway. So you might as well get ready for your ass whipping.

Oh yeah, it ain't me that's going to be whipping your ass. Dad sent me to tell you. Daddy gonna whip your ass.

Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
And, logically speaking, he is right as well. We are currently living in a false economy.

No, it's a real economy, with real products being bought and sold.


False Economy. Sorry you don't know what the term means. It means things look good, but it's an illusion. It just looks good because we have the things we need, but are not considering that we have to pay for those things in our life times. Well, in this case, we think we don't, so we don't have to look at that either. Who knows, maybe our kids and grandkids can just keep adding more debt to even more generations. This thing might get to go on forever.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
We are propping our current economy up by borrowing against our children and grandchildren's future wages.

The government(s) may be, but that will become their problem. People will still continue to have an economy without them, or under a different government.


Yeah, I think you got it. The problem for you is that the Barter System works off of things that people can produce with their own hands, like goats and lettuce. Things that normal people need for their daily lives. Not things that measure how much shit is in Puget Sound. So you would be at a big disadvantage trying to live in Seattle [I was born in Tacoma, by the way] and peddle industrial products to people who don't have any money and just need food.

Its from the ashes of that, that the next government is created. Or, during that. Actually, it could be starting now, in the minds of people who realize that there is need for change.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
And at the same time, we are destroying their ability to live.

We are healthier, wealthier, and having more fun than anybody has ever had. This is destruction???

No, this is not destruction. This is the Hurricane Party.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
How long do you think we can hold a candle that is burning at both ends, before getting burned?

You might try either putting the candle in a holder, or learn how to light candles, or both.


Yup, yup, yup.
That's basically what the Church of AGW as you call them are trying like hell to do. But Humanity has picked that candle right up out of the candle holder and lit the other end when there wasn't enough light for everyone. We need people figuring out how to get that candle back in the holder. Right now we are still trying to get those in charge to realize that there might be a problem with standing there holding a candle that is burning on both ends.

You seem to have a problem with that, and would rather argue that the candle is not really losing as much was as everyone thinks it is. In fact, it's not losing was at all, because that's a violation of the 3rd Law of Thermodynamics.


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29-09-2017 04:37
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GreenMan wrote:
...deleted bible interpretation portion...this is a forum on climate debate...

We shouldn't even need laws to prevent pollution.

No such law is possible. Done.
GreenMan wrote:
People should be responsible enough on their own to not pollute their environment.

Agreed. Have you taken your trash out lately?
GreenMan wrote:
But we still get it, even with the laws we have on the books, because it is cheaper to just dump our shit in the rivers.

Guess what a typical wastewater treatment plant does? The ones around here (and in some other parts of the world) dump potable effluent into those rivers. The remaining material becomes fish food.
GreenMan wrote:
And that is what they used to do, before the laws made it illegal.

Sewage treatment plants are required to discharge their effluent in as short a path to a river, lake, or sea as possible. You don't seem to understand what pollution is or how you deal with it.
GreenMan wrote:
We don't look at CO2 the same as other industrial byproducts

CO2 is not pollution. It is also not an industrial byproduct. It is a naturally occurring gas in the atmosphere.
GreenMan wrote:
that are disposed of in a sanitary way.

Salt IS sanitary. Water IS sanitary. CO2 IS sanitary. Are you suggesting that these are not sanitary???
GreenMan wrote:
But we should, because it is basically like dumping a poison into the water.

It's perfectly fine to dump poison in the water, so long as you don't dump too much at a single location. The solution to pollution is dilution.
GreenMan wrote:
It kills those down stream.

Nope. It dilutes.
GreenMan wrote:
We currently do not even consider those down stream of us, as we run around in our cars in our busy, busy worlds,

Cars don't dump anything in streams.
GreenMan wrote:
and then run back home to our climate controlled castles,

Furnaces don't dump anything into streams either.
GreenMan wrote:
to enjoy the lasted reality show.

Are you going to try philosophy now? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
GreenMan wrote:
But it catches up with us.

What does??
GreenMan wrote:
It has caught up with us.

It has?? Too late then! Guess that's why people are living longer and having more fun then anyone in history.
GreenMan wrote:
People like me aren't out here to give you a hard time.

Liar. That is exactly your purpose.
GreenMan wrote:
We are out here to warn you about what is going to happen.

By giving people a hard time.
GreenMan wrote:
It doesn't really matter if you like it or not, you are about to get your ass whipped.
Do you understand?
It doesn't matter if you want to stand there and argue like a child about how it wasn't your fault.
You are going to get your ass whipped anyway.

This is known as Pascal's Wager...a fallacy. Pascal once tried to use it to prove God exists.
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
And, logically speaking, he is right as well. We are currently living in a false economy.

No, it's a real economy, with real products being bought and sold.


False Economy.

Meat, eggs, potatoes, computers, chemicals, cars, gasoline, plastics, the keyboard you are typing on, the video game you probably play, the house or apartment you live in, the services of a lawyer, the services of a mechanic for a car; ALL are real products in a real economy.

These are real things. There is nothing false about them.
GreenMan wrote:
Sorry you don't know what the term means.

No, it is YOU that doesn't know what the term means. You see nothing but ghosts of an economy, despite what is right in front of your eyes.
GreenMan wrote:
It means things look good, but it's an illusion.

These products are NOT an illusion.
GreenMan wrote:
It just looks good because we have the things we need,

Because of a real economy.
GreenMan wrote:
but are not considering that we have to pay for those things in our life times.
Well, in this case, we think we don't, so we don't have to look at that either.
Who knows, maybe our kids and grandkids can just keep adding more debt to even more generations. This thing might get to go on forever.

Pascal's Wager again. You really like this fallacy, don't you?
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
We are propping our current economy up by borrowing against our children and grandchildren's future wages.

The government(s) may be, but that will become their problem. People will still continue to have an economy without them, or under a different government.


Yeah, I think you got it.

You just said I didn't. Make up your mind.
GreenMan wrote:
The problem for you is that the Barter System works off of things that people can produce with their own hands, like goats and lettuce. Things that normal people need for their daily lives. Not things that measure how much shit is in Puget Sound.

Everything works in a barter system. Money IS a barter system. It just uses a medium of exchange in the middle.

Let's say it's total 'barter system' as you envision it, where there is no money. What happens?

I have a service I can provide for someone. He can pay me, say, 5 chickens for it. I don't need chickens, but I accept it anyway because I happen to know a guy that does. I can buy his product using the 5 chickens. For this transaction, the chickens are money. They are a thing of value, and they are a unit of account. That is all that money is...whether it's gold, silver, clams, chickens, pretty rocks, pieces of paper, or bits on a computer disk.

Money is what is used as a common item of a medium of exchange. It doesn't matter what that item is. If people stop accepting that item, something else will take it's place. No government can stop it.

GreenMan wrote:
So you would be at a big disadvantage trying to live in Seattle

Really??? They paid me quite a lot for what I did for Puget Sound. I can go out there and fish in it, open a resort on it, sell photographs of it, sell whale watching tours on it. Our soil here is excellent. Our crops here are bountiful. I have sweet corn, carrots, beef, chickens, pork, dairy products, apples, apricots, tomatoes, etc. in easy reach.

We have an excellent port system here. I can easily obtain imports from anywhere on the Pacific Rim and even further.

I own aircraft. I can sell transportation by air. I don't even need paved runways. My planes can land in any open field. Some of them only need 100ft to land and take off in.

We have all the water we need. It's fresh and clear. It is not polluted. It supports all manner of life.

I can't think of anywhere BETTER to live if the dollar is no longer accepted as money. Oh the cities will turn into disaster areas, but that's just because they are disaster areas anyway. The violence is in the cities, not the country. The 'overpopulation problem' is a city view, not the country. The city can only survive with continuous importation of goods and services from outside. The country doesn't have that problem.

GreenMan wrote:
[I was born in Tacoma, by the way] and peddle industrial products to people who don't have any money and just need food.

Bully for you.Tacoma is a lot better now since you were born there (if you were).
GreenMan wrote:
Its from the ashes of that, that the next government is created.

No. It's from the PEOPLE the next government is created.
GreenMan wrote:
Or, during that.

During what? Ashes? I didn't know ashes was a unit of time.
GreenMan wrote:
Actually, it could be starting now, in the minds of people who realize that there is need for change.

Change is happening even now. People are waking up to scaremongers like you and rejecting your message.
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
And at the same time, we are destroying their ability to live.

We are healthier, wealthier, and having more fun than anybody has ever had. This is destruction???

No, this is not destruction. This is the Hurricane Party.

?? Hurricanes are not destructive???

In the midst of plenty, all you see is desolation. It must suck to be you.


The Parrot Killer

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Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
29-09-2017 11:24
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
...deleted bible interpretation portion...this is a forum on climate debate...

We shouldn't even need laws to prevent pollution.

No such law is possible. Done.
GreenMan wrote:
People should be responsible enough on their own to not pollute their environment.

Agreed. Have you taken your trash out lately?
GreenMan wrote:
But we still get it, even with the laws we have on the books, because it is cheaper to just dump our shit in the rivers.

Guess what a typical wastewater treatment plant does? The ones around here (and in some other parts of the world) dump potable effluent into those rivers. The remaining material becomes fish food.
GreenMan wrote:
And that is what they used to do, before the laws made it illegal.

Sewage treatment plants are required to discharge their effluent in as short a path to a river, lake, or sea as possible. You don't seem to understand what pollution is or how you deal with it.
GreenMan wrote:
We don't look at CO2 the same as other industrial byproducts

CO2 is not pollution. It is also not an industrial byproduct. It is a naturally occurring gas in the atmosphere.
GreenMan wrote:
that are disposed of in a sanitary way.

Salt IS sanitary. Water IS sanitary. CO2 IS sanitary. Are you suggesting that these are not sanitary???
GreenMan wrote:
But we should, because it is basically like dumping a poison into the water.

It's perfectly fine to dump poison in the water, so long as you don't dump too much at a single location. The solution to pollution is dilution.
GreenMan wrote:
It kills those down stream.

Nope. It dilutes.
GreenMan wrote:
We currently do not even consider those down stream of us, as we run around in our cars in our busy, busy worlds,

Cars don't dump anything in streams.
GreenMan wrote:
and then run back home to our climate controlled castles,

Furnaces don't dump anything into streams either.
GreenMan wrote:
to enjoy the lasted reality show.

Are you going to try philosophy now? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
GreenMan wrote:
But it catches up with us.

What does??
GreenMan wrote:
It has caught up with us.

It has?? Too late then! Guess that's why people are living longer and having more fun then anyone in history.
GreenMan wrote:
People like me aren't out here to give you a hard time.

Liar. That is exactly your purpose.
GreenMan wrote:
We are out here to warn you about what is going to happen.

By giving people a hard time.
GreenMan wrote:
It doesn't really matter if you like it or not, you are about to get your ass whipped.
Do you understand?
It doesn't matter if you want to stand there and argue like a child about how it wasn't your fault.
You are going to get your ass whipped anyway.

This is known as Pascal's Wager...a fallacy. Pascal once tried to use it to prove God exists.
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
And, logically speaking, he is right as well. We are currently living in a false economy.

No, it's a real economy, with real products being bought and sold.


False Economy.

Meat, eggs, potatoes, computers, chemicals, cars, gasoline, plastics, the keyboard you are typing on, the video game you probably play, the house or apartment you live in, the services of a lawyer, the services of a mechanic for a car; ALL are real products in a real economy.

These are real things. There is nothing false about them.
GreenMan wrote:
Sorry you don't know what the term means.

No, it is YOU that doesn't know what the term means. You see nothing but ghosts of an economy, despite what is right in front of your eyes.
GreenMan wrote:
It means things look good, but it's an illusion.

These products are NOT an illusion.
GreenMan wrote:
It just looks good because we have the things we need,

Because of a real economy.
GreenMan wrote:
but are not considering that we have to pay for those things in our life times.
Well, in this case, we think we don't, so we don't have to look at that either.
Who knows, maybe our kids and grandkids can just keep adding more debt to even more generations. This thing might get to go on forever.

Pascal's Wager again. You really like this fallacy, don't you?
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
We are propping our current economy up by borrowing against our children and grandchildren's future wages.

The government(s) may be, but that will become their problem. People will still continue to have an economy without them, or under a different government.


Yeah, I think you got it.

You just said I didn't. Make up your mind.
GreenMan wrote:
The problem for you is that the Barter System works off of things that people can produce with their own hands, like goats and lettuce. Things that normal people need for their daily lives. Not things that measure how much shit is in Puget Sound.

Everything works in a barter system. Money IS a barter system. It just uses a medium of exchange in the middle.

Let's say it's total 'barter system' as you envision it, where there is no money. What happens?

I have a service I can provide for someone. He can pay me, say, 5 chickens for it. I don't need chickens, but I accept it anyway because I happen to know a guy that does. I can buy his product using the 5 chickens. For this transaction, the chickens are money. They are a thing of value, and they are a unit of account. That is all that money is...whether it's gold, silver, clams, chickens, pretty rocks, pieces of paper, or bits on a computer disk.

Money is what is used as a common item of a medium of exchange. It doesn't matter what that item is. If people stop accepting that item, something else will take it's place. No government can stop it.

GreenMan wrote:
So you would be at a big disadvantage trying to live in Seattle

Really??? They paid me quite a lot for what I did for Puget Sound. I can go out there and fish in it, open a resort on it, sell photographs of it, sell whale watching tours on it. Our soil here is excellent. Our crops here are bountiful. I have sweet corn, carrots, beef, chickens, pork, dairy products, apples, apricots, tomatoes, etc. in easy reach.

We have an excellent port system here. I can easily obtain imports from anywhere on the Pacific Rim and even further.

I own aircraft. I can sell transportation by air. I don't even need paved runways. My planes can land in any open field. Some of them only need 100ft to land and take off in.

We have all the water we need. It's fresh and clear. It is not polluted. It supports all manner of life.

I can't think of anywhere BETTER to live if the dollar is no longer accepted as money. Oh the cities will turn into disaster areas, but that's just because they are disaster areas anyway. The violence is in the cities, not the country. The 'overpopulation problem' is a city view, not the country. The city can only survive with continuous importation of goods and services from outside. The country doesn't have that problem.

GreenMan wrote:
[I was born in Tacoma, by the way] and peddle industrial products to people who don't have any money and just need food.

Bully for you.Tacoma is a lot better now since you were born there (if you were).
GreenMan wrote:
Its from the ashes of that, that the next government is created.

No. It's from the PEOPLE the next government is created.
GreenMan wrote:
Or, during that.

During what? Ashes? I didn't know ashes was a unit of time.
GreenMan wrote:
Actually, it could be starting now, in the minds of people who realize that there is need for change.

Change is happening even now. People are waking up to scaremongers like you and rejecting your message.
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
And at the same time, we are destroying their ability to live.

We are healthier, wealthier, and having more fun than anybody has ever had. This is destruction???

No, this is not destruction. This is the Hurricane Party.

?? Hurricanes are not destructive???

In the midst of plenty, all you see is desolation. It must suck to be you.


Your post just shows your lack of intelligence, once again. You don't even know what a Hurricane Party is, yet you try to be an expert on everything. So no, it doesn't suck to be me. I'm getting old, and my body is nearing the end, but it still doesn't suck.

A Hurricane Party is what some people do as a hurricane is approaching. They usually go off without a hitch, but sometimes they can end in disaster. Basically it's a bunch of people that get drunk when they know a life-threatening storm is approaching. Instead of taking shelter, they have a big party. One time, the only survivor was one of the owners of the house, who swam out the 2nd floor window. They all swam out that window. She was the only one to make it to see the sun rise in the morning.

And uh, Pascal's Wager was not an attempt to prove the existence of God. It was attempt to prove that not believing in God was stupid. If it turns out there is a God and you don't believe in God, then you are punished. But if you believe in God, and it turns out that there is no God, then there is nothing really lost, except tithes you gave to God, through the church that was bull shitting you, and all those people that you would have killed got to live.

But yes, I guess you could say I am making the same argument that he did, only about Climate Change, instead of God. Not trying to prove Climate Change with it, just pointing out how stupid it is to be in denial about it.


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29-09-2017 17:06
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
[quote]GreenMan wrote:
[quote]Into the Night wrote:

Commerce is predictable. It follows economic models that work. We know that people have need to buy and sell things. We know that the things in the market increase and change according to the will of the buyers and sellers of that market. We know what happens when thieves like governments enter the picture to try to seize the accumulated wealth, or micromanage it.

<snipped a bunch of comments and typical irrelevant responses from Parrot Killer>

[quote]L8112 wrote:
what does this mean?

It means you're full of shit.
L8112 wrote:
it means no 'kingdom' for you, treasures, status, wealth etc.. its all going to be flushed down the toilet as the chaotic fractal that is commerce flies apart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you know how cities are built???

Let's take a modest example, l like Seattle, WA.

Before Seattle, there was nothing here but forest, rain, and a few indians.

Explorers discovered Puget Sound, <history of Seattle snipped, for brevity>

All from NOTHING.


That's quite an interesting story, Parrot Killer. But it has not much to do with what L8112 [Late One Twelve? One of the Twelve? Leaders of Humanity, who can sit with the Master?] is talking about. This is what he appears to be talking about, and I think he is absolutely correct. It's from the Bible. You just said you support your church, so you have to at least know about the Bible. It gets hard to read sometimes, though, especially when it starts talking about things in the future, that we don't want to worry about today. But you know what? It's not really about being in the good graces of the Church, or paying your tithes do stay there. Nope, not about money at all.

This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.
29-09-2017 21:22
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
In the midst of plenty, all you see is desolation. It must suck to be you.


Your post just shows your lack of intelligence, once again. You don't even know what a Hurricane Party is, yet you try to be an expert on everything.

I do know what a hurricane party is. You are trying a contextomy again.
GreenMan wrote:
So no, it doesn't suck to be me.

Now back to the original context. Yes, it does. All you see is desolation in the midst of plenty. You are devoid of any sort of hope. Yet you lie about it as if it were not coming true.
GreenMan wrote:
I'm getting old, and my body is nearing the end, but it still doesn't suck.

Non-sequitur.
GreenMan wrote:
...deleted redundant definition of a hurricane party...

And uh, Pascal's Wager was not an attempt to prove the existence of God.

It was attempt to prove that not believing in God was stupid.

If it turns out there is a God and you don't believe in God, then you are punished. But if you believe in God, and it turns out that there is no God, then there is nothing really lost, except tithes you gave to God, through the church that was bull shitting you, and all those people that you would have killed got to live.
[quote]GreenMan wrote:
But yes, I guess you could say I am making the same argument that he did, only about Climate Change, instead of God. Not trying to prove Climate Change with it, just pointing out how stupid it is to be in denial about it.

So you ADMIT to the fallacy. Good. Done here.


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29-09-2017 21:24
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
[quote]GreenMan wrote:
[quote]Into the Night wrote:

Commerce is predictable. It follows economic models that work. We know that people have need to buy and sell things. We know that the things in the market increase and change according to the will of the buyers and sellers of that market. We know what happens when thieves like governments enter the picture to try to seize the accumulated wealth, or micromanage it.

<snipped a bunch of comments and typical irrelevant responses from Parrot Killer>

[quote]L8112 wrote:
what does this mean?

It means you're full of shit.
L8112 wrote:
it means no 'kingdom' for you, treasures, status, wealth etc.. its all going to be flushed down the toilet as the chaotic fractal that is commerce flies apart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you know how cities are built???

Let's take a modest example, l like Seattle, WA.

Before Seattle, there was nothing here but forest, rain, and a few indians.

Explorers discovered Puget Sound, <history of Seattle snipped, for brevity>

All from NOTHING.


That's quite an interesting story, Parrot Killer. But it has not much to do with what L8112 [Late One Twelve? One of the Twelve? Leaders of Humanity, who can sit with the Master?] is talking about. This is what he appears to be talking about, and I think he is absolutely correct. It's from the Bible. You just said you support your church, so you have to at least know about the Bible. It gets hard to read sometimes, though, especially when it starts talking about things in the future, that we don't want to worry about today. But you know what? It's not really about being in the good graces of the Church, or paying your tithes do stay there. Nope, not about money at all.

This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


WTF are YOU talking about??? Random statements???


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
30-09-2017 05:39
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:

Now back to the original context. Yes, it does. All you see is desolation in the midst of plenty. You are devoid of any sort of hope. Yet you lie about it as if it were not coming true.


It depends on what you think I am hoping for. If you think it is to avoid the destruction that what we are doing now will cause, then you are correct. I do not see that happening. I do not see us avoiding that, even if we could just stop producing Greenhouse Gases immediately. We can't. The IPCC's solution is to taper the world down as we progress through time. That is a sensible solution, but we just keep getting hotter anyway, for hundreds of years to come. How much more heat can we take, before society falls apart?

What I do have hope for is some to realize what is going on in time to prepare for the long journey through what's coming, and allow their posterity through.


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30-09-2017 17:15
Wake
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
[quote]GreenMan wrote:
[quote]Into the Night wrote:

Commerce is predictable. It follows economic models that work. We know that people have need to buy and sell things. We know that the things in the market increase and change according to the will of the buyers and sellers of that market. We know what happens when thieves like governments enter the picture to try to seize the accumulated wealth, or micromanage it.

<snipped a bunch of comments and typical irrelevant responses from Parrot Killer>

[quote]L8112 wrote:
what does this mean?

It means you're full of shit.
L8112 wrote:
it means no 'kingdom' for you, treasures, status, wealth etc.. its all going to be flushed down the toilet as the chaotic fractal that is commerce flies apart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you know how cities are built???

Let's take a modest example, l like Seattle, WA.

Before Seattle, there was nothing here but forest, rain, and a few indians.

Explorers discovered Puget Sound, <history of Seattle snipped, for brevity>

All from NOTHING.


That's quite an interesting story, Parrot Killer. But it has not much to do with what L8112 [Late One Twelve? One of the Twelve? Leaders of Humanity, who can sit with the Master?] is talking about. This is what he appears to be talking about, and I think he is absolutely correct. It's from the Bible. You just said you support your church, so you have to at least know about the Bible. It gets hard to read sometimes, though, especially when it starts talking about things in the future, that we don't want to worry about today. But you know what? It's not really about being in the good graces of the Church, or paying your tithes do stay there. Nope, not about money at all.

This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.
Edited on 30-09-2017 17:18
30-09-2017 21:53
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

Now back to the original context. Yes, it does. All you see is desolation in the midst of plenty. You are devoid of any sort of hope. Yet you lie about it as if it were not coming true.


It depends on what you think I am hoping for. If you think it is to avoid the destruction that what we are doing now will cause, then you are correct. I do not see that happening.

I do not see us avoiding that, even if we could just stop producing Greenhouse Gases immediately.


1) Those who fight global warming will be allowed to reincarnate to
some existing body on Earth.
2) The planet will become uninhabitable.

Which is it, dude? You are still irrational. You have not yet cleared this paradox.

GreenMan wrote:
The IPCC's solution is to taper the world down as we progress through time.

No, the IPCC's solution is to become a world government.
...remaining repeat of above paradox deleted...


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
30-09-2017 22:38
litesong
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Gazzzy & Guzzzler wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzzed & guzzzling" gushed: .... find myself in the top 10% of income earners. Why do I need to feed those who are.....
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzzed & guzzzling" believes rich people work 3000 times harder than poor people.
Nope, but they often work smarter.
The definition by "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzzed & guzzzling" of "smarter" is to feed on others' hard work, by placing itself close to the money flow & syphoning off its unfair share.
01-10-2017 05:08
GreenMan
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(661)
Wake wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
[quote]GreenMan wrote:
[quote]Into the Night wrote:

Commerce is predictable. It follows economic models that work. We know that people have need to buy and sell things. We know that the things in the market increase and change according to the will of the buyers and sellers of that market. We know what happens when thieves like governments enter the picture to try to seize the accumulated wealth, or micromanage it.

<snipped a bunch of comments and typical irrelevant responses from Parrot Killer>

[quote]L8112 wrote:
what does this mean?

It means you're full of shit.
L8112 wrote:
it means no 'kingdom' for you, treasures, status, wealth etc.. its all going to be flushed down the toilet as the chaotic fractal that is commerce flies apart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you know how cities are built???

Let's take a modest example, l like Seattle, WA.

Before Seattle, there was nothing here but forest, rain, and a few indians.

Explorers discovered Puget Sound, <history of Seattle snipped, for brevity>

All from NOTHING.


That's quite an interesting story, Parrot Killer. But it has not much to do with what L8112 [Late One Twelve? One of the Twelve? Leaders of Humanity, who can sit with the Master?] is talking about. This is what he appears to be talking about, and I think he is absolutely correct. It's from the Bible. You just said you support your church, so you have to at least know about the Bible. It gets hard to read sometimes, though, especially when it starts talking about things in the future, that we don't want to worry about today. But you know what? It's not really about being in the good graces of the Church, or paying your tithes do stay there. Nope, not about money at all.

This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.


~*~ GreenMan ~*~

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01-10-2017 05:20
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

Now back to the original context. Yes, it does. All you see is desolation in the midst of plenty. You are devoid of any sort of hope. Yet you lie about it as if it were not coming true.


It depends on what you think I am hoping for. If you think it is to avoid the destruction that what we are doing now will cause, then you are correct. I do not see that happening.

I do not see us avoiding that, even if we could just stop producing Greenhouse Gases immediately.


1) Those who fight global warming will be allowed to reincarnate to
some existing body on Earth.
2) The planet will become uninhabitable.

Which is it, dude? You are still irrational. You have not yet cleared this paradox.

Funny you calling someone else irrational.
I have stated several times that there is an "if" at the end of the "planet will become uninhabitable." It is a foregone conclusion that the amount of Greenhouse Gases currently in the air will eventually push the planet's temperature beyond our ability to survive, if nothing intervenes. That intervention is mentioned in prophecy, not in science. But science backs up the interpretation of the prophecy, in that a Caldera eruption will cool things back off, for thousands of years. The down side of that is obvious though. Most people don't make it through that.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
The IPCC's solution is to taper the world down as we progress through time.

No, the IPCC's solution is to become a world government.


I'm not sure where you are coming from here. Why do you think the IPCC's solution is to become a world government? It is already the world government's panel on investigating Climate Change and what to do about it.


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https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leftbehind/index.php
01-10-2017 10:41
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

Now back to the original context. Yes, it does. All you see is desolation in the midst of plenty. You are devoid of any sort of hope. Yet you lie about it as if it were not coming true.


It depends on what you think I am hoping for. If you think it is to avoid the destruction that what we are doing now will cause, then you are correct. I do not see that happening.

I do not see us avoiding that, even if we could just stop producing Greenhouse Gases immediately.


1) Those who fight global warming will be allowed to reincarnate to
some existing body on Earth.
2) The planet will become uninhabitable.

Which is it, dude? You are still irrational. You have not yet cleared this paradox.

Funny you calling someone else irrational.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that has the paradoxes, not me. It is YOU that still trying to argue the paradoxes, not me.
GreenMan wrote:
I have stated several times that there is an "if" at the end of the "planet will become uninhabitable." It is a foregone conclusion that the amount of Greenhouse Gases currently in the air will eventually push the planet's temperature beyond our ability to survive, if nothing intervenes. That intervention is mentioned in prophecy, not in science. But science backs up the interpretation of the prophecy, in that a Caldera eruption will cool things back off, for thousands of years. The down side of that is obvious though. Most people don't make it through that.

You also revoked the use of 'if' several times. Sorry, won't take this time.
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
The IPCC's solution is to taper the world down as we progress through time.

No, the IPCC's solution is to become a world government.


I'm not sure where you are coming from here. Why do you think the IPCC's solution is to become a world government? It is already the world government's panel on investigating Climate Change and what to do about it.

The IPCC is not an authority on anything except as high priests of the Church of Global Warming. They are nothing but propaganda. They (and you) can't even define what 'climate change' actually IS.


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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 01-10-2017 10:43
01-10-2017 18:19
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.[/quote]

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?
01-10-2017 21:21
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 01-10-2017 21:22
01-10-2017 21:24
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.
01-10-2017 21:54
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(21582)
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.


Ah. Another one of your threats of violence again, is it?


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
02-10-2017 01:48
James_
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(2218)
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.


Wake,
Read the topic of the thread again.
02-10-2017 05:20
GreenMan
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(661)
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

[quote]Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


GreenMan wrote:
Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.


Wake wrote:
Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


You got the quote thingys all messed up, during your little temper tantrum. But I fix em. And no, I didn't hack your account, bozo. You are the one who typed that nonsense, lol. If you don't remember it then it might be that you took too many meds, went crazier, and don't remember it.

It was you that wrote it too, and I know what you meant by it. You had just posted a message about helping a homeless man get another fix, after you got change for a 20, so he couldn't get a fix AND something to eat. You have previously said that you have a million dollars in the bank, so you were talking about yourself as the "rich who show the most charity." Even though having a million dollars doesn't make one rich in today's society. That won't even buy you a house in the rich side of town. And making up a story about giving a bum 10 dollars doesn't make you charitable either.

And, I'm not "more religious" than others. I'm not religious at all. I use the prophecies of the Bible, and elsewhere. That doesn't make me religious. If I were religious, I wouldn't be allowed to use prophecies from elsewhere. I would surely burst into flames, if I tried to be a Christian.



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02-10-2017 05:22
GreenMan
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.


wait and see what, you idiot, lol. Do you think anyone is concerned about anything an old wore out lying scrum of the earth douche bag does?


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02-10-2017 05:27
GreenMan
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(661)
James_ wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.


Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.


Wake,
Read the topic of the thread again.


That is funny.

What we have here is a Totally Insane Baby Boomer calling Millennials Crazy, for giving a shit about the planet.

Makes sense to me, in a totally upside down, bassackwards kind of way.


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02-10-2017 09:26
James_
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(2218)
GreenMan wrote:
James_ wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.




Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.


Wake,
Read the topic of the thread again.


That is funny.

What we have here is a Totally Insane Baby Boomer calling Millennials Crazy, for giving a shit about the planet.

Makes sense to me, in a totally upside down, bassackwards kind of way.


I doubt most people care. Besides myself can you name one person who finds it odd that gases that destroys ozone are far and away the most dangerous GHGs. ? Everyone keeps talking about CO2 because scientists say we need to lower it yet don't care that we need it to support the ozone layer.
Here's a link for anyone who wants to see that the EPA who agrees with the IPCC states F-gases are the worst but does not say we need to lower
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases
02-10-2017 09:27
James_
★★★★★
(2218)
GreenMan wrote:
James_ wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
This is your future.

Revelation 18 says:


So after complaining about the rich who show the most charity now you're more religious than other people. Should have known.


I find this interesting. I did not post this and at the time it was posted I was sitting in a doctor's office where I took my brother. I did not returned until almost two hours after this was posted.

So I have changed my password and if any other postings appear under my name that I did not post I will close this account down completely and start another.




Do you have your meds arranged in one of those weekly organizers, so you don't have to remember if you took them already? Those things are pretty cool, because they help you to not over-medicate. Walmart has them for a couple dollars. CVS has them too.

Which all suggests that you got into my account so that you could post your lunacy and blame another. You know what happens to people who do that don't you?


What?


Wait and see.


Wake,
Read the topic of the thread again.


That is funny.

What we have here is a Totally Insane Baby Boomer calling Millennials Crazy, for giving a shit about the planet.

Makes sense to me, in a totally upside down, bassackwards kind of way.


I doubt most people care. Besides myself can you name one person who finds it odd that gases that destroys ozone are far and away the most dangerous GHGs. ? Everyone keeps talking about CO2 because scientists say we need to lower it yet don't care that we need it to support the ozone layer.
Here's a link for anyone who wants to see that the EPA who agrees with the IPCC states F-gases are the worst but does not say we need to lower
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases
02-10-2017 10:32
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(21582)
James_ wrote:
I doubt most people care. Besides myself can you name one person who finds it odd that gases that destroys ozone are far and away the most dangerous GHGs. ?

The ozone layer is not being depleted.
James_ wrote:
Everyone keeps talking about CO2 because scientists say we need to lower it yet don't care that we need it to support the ozone layer.

CO2 has nothing to do with ozone.
James_ wrote:
...deleted Holy Link...

Quoting propaganda is just going to get rejected. Science isn't a website.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
02-10-2017 17:55
litesong
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(2297)
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzzed & guzzzling" gushed:I do enjoy the taste of meat.

I like salmon (w/fry bread) as prepared by Native Tribes around the Salish Sea. I like cod for my fish & chips, & excellent root beer. Gotta have mustard or horseradish for pork steaks. Best beef steak I ever had was in Wisconsin.
22-10-2017 21:17
litesong
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(2297)
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" bluffed: Science isn't a website.

However, old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiners believe webcysts, such as this one, can make "sigh-ants".
25-10-2017 18:34
Wake
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L8112 wrote:
Into the Night I think you forgot to take your meds today. you are this forum's equivalent of the village idiot.


The cowards comments. If they don't agree with you obviously they are on medications.
25-10-2017 18:41
Wake
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(4034)
James_ wrote:
I doubt most people care. Besides myself can you name one person who finds it odd that gases that destroys ozone are far and away the most dangerous GHGs. ? Everyone keeps talking about CO2 because scientists say we need to lower it yet don't care that we need it to support the ozone layer.
Here's a link for anyone who wants to see that the EPA who agrees with the IPCC states F-gases are the worst but does not say we need to lower
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases


James, I just don't get what the hell you are talking about ozone depleting gases.

Ozone is generated by sunlight and oxygen. Period. The depletion of the ozone layer was just another of those insanities that the crazy generation is using to frighten themselves into having a seizure. Believe me seizures are not fun and are life destroying.

BTW: you have not related what sort of operation you need and why. I am hoping it isn't something too serious.
25-10-2017 20:03
litesong
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(2297)
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: If they don't agree with you obviously they are on medications.

That's one explanation. More likely tho, AGW denier liar whiners have no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in a poorly earned (unearned?) DEE-plooomaa. Many AGW denier liar whiners love to brag about their lack of education..... which would bias their opinions.
Edited on 25-10-2017 20:05
26-10-2017 01:30
litesong
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litesong wrote:... AGW denier liar whiners have no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in a poorly earned (unearned?) DEE-plooomaa.

Correction:
AGW denier liar whiners have no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in a poorly earned (unearned?) hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
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