The JFK files were not all released as there is no active no fly zone over31-03-2025 19:23 | |
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Bush's house. Just the way it is. But on a positive note. Trump still has them all. Simon says. Smile IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
02-04-2025 02:02 | |
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Swan wrote: I haven't had a chance to read much of them yet, either. From the descriptions I've read, it's not clear if it included witness testimony from retired personnel who worked at the Cuban Consulate or Soviet Embassy in Mexico City in the fall of 1963. Oswald ASTOUNDED everybody, shouting about his intention to kill JFK. Apparently, a very similar tantrum in both buildings. Where the CIA had LOTS of listening devices. I'm sure that it must be in there, because it was already in the Warren Commission report, about the GAP in the tape recording, during crucial discussions either with or about Oswald, recorded in Mexico City. The "Mexican stuff" that Nixon thought he might use to blackmail the CIA into helping his efforts to stay in office at all costs. The truth is out there. |
02-04-2025 02:44 | |
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Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
02-04-2025 03:01 | |
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Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: By all accounts, Nixon wasn't thinking very clearly in 1974 as his hold on political power began to unravel. Behaving in a manner similar to a mentally ill person. They humored him at the time. Sure, Mr. President. I'll go to the CIA and tell them to get the FBI to STOP their investigation of the Watergate break in coverup. Like you say, Mr. President, I'll warn the CIA that if they DON'T, "The Mexican stuff will come out." Of course they did not. They would have had to explain to Nixon that it would be mutual suicide for him to carry out the threat. The CIA knew damn well that Nixon personally intervened to sabotage the peace talks in Paris in 1968. Nixon got the message to South Vietnam's president Thieu that he could get a much better deal if he waited for Nixon to get elected president later that year. So what if prolonging the war would cost tens of thousands of addtional US military lives, and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese? Johnson's hope for reelection was toast if the peace talks didn't get anywhere. The rest is history. Nixon would have had a tough time convincing anyone that the CIA incompetence in failing to notify the Secret Service was a whole lot worse than his treasonous efforts to sabotage US foreign policy as a private citizen. |
02-04-2025 03:20 | |
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Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: In other words you were instructed to sway the topic from JFK to Nixon. So, you vish to test me, good. IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
02-04-2025 03:41 | |
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Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: Just act normal. I think he's on to us. JFK to Nixon pivot... let's pretend it was SWAN'S idea. Yeah... NIXON did plenty of despicable things. To his credit, Nixon made historic environmental protection progress. Now being ripped apart with a chainsaw. But here is where is one of many examples where Nixon's moral superiority to Trump is clear. Nixon BARELY lost the election in 1960. A thorough investigation might very well have revealed that he actually WON. Nixon knew that. He could have been a sore loser and thrown a hissy fit. There WERE fradulent votes on an election altering scale in both Illinois and Texas. Nixon could have gotten very ugly about it, with LEGITIMATE evidence to support his case. Fortunately, Nixon loved his country enough not to pull a "Trump" in 1960. |
02-04-2025 13:51 | |
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Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: Trump has all the real JFK files, the ones that he declassified as the law demanded during his first term. Since he declassified them there can be no crime in keeping 300 copies of them in various locations. Waving to the bleached blonde turd in the white cheep PS. Nice try invoking Nixon IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
02-04-2025 22:16 | |
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Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: I do NOT regret the choice to NOT buy Apple stock. It was either 1979 or 1980, in Foster City, California. I was having dinner with my girlfriend's family in the town where Apple was born. One of the guests was very excited about being among the very FIRST to buy stock in the brand new, local company. It wasn't expensive at all. He was so excited. He had done his homework and knew some of the folks involved. It was going to take off and take off BIG, he assured us. He wanted us to know that this brand new opportunity was still wide open and we could ALL get in on it. My girlfriend's brother was actually looking to invest a little. Not much. But he wanted to turn his student loan into profit-making stock. But he wasn't so sure about this computer stuff, so he bought Federal Express instead. I thought that what the guy was saying made a lot of sense, and it really did look like the kind of thing that could go sky high, if it didn't crash and burn. But I had never bought stock, and I still haven't. I needed my student loan to pay for being a student. With a crystal ball at the time, I could have just dropped out of school and used the money to buy IPO Apple stock. It would have made me rich. But it would not have made me a biogeochemist. And it is actually SO FUN to know this stuff. Truly joyful to have the knowledge. If I had to put a price tag on that, it would be more than a million, minimum. Apple stock is for punks, anyway. I just fact checked myself and I see that it was December 12, 1980. Apple IPO at $22 a share. I could have bought 100 shares with what I had at the time. Yeah, it was a little before Christmas, 1980. The guy was talking like the IPO was only about a week in so far, so it makes sense. I do NOT regret investing in my science education rather than buying Apple IPO. Edited on 02-04-2025 22:30 |
03-04-2025 01:23 | |
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Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: Trump has all the real JFK files, the ones that he declassified as the law demanded during his first term. Since he declassified them there can be no crime in keeping 300 copies of them in various locations. Waving to the bleached blonde turd in the white cheep PS. Nice try invoking Nixon and your poor business decisions IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
03-04-2025 17:12 | |
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Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: I nevur liked cowledge, anyway. |
04-04-2025 21:27 | |
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Im a BM wrote:Trump has all the real JFK files, the ones that he declassified as the law demanded during his first term. Since he declassified them there can be no crime in keeping 300 copies of them in various locations.Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK filesSwan wrote: IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
07-04-2025 04:54 | |
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Bush's house. Just the way it is. But on a positive note. Trump still has them all. Simon says. Smile I haven't had a chance to read much of "them" (JFK files) yet, either. From the descriptions I've read, it's not clear if it included witness testimony from retired personnel who worked at the Cuban Consulate or Soviet Embassy in Mexico City in the fall of 1963. Oswald ASTOUNDED everybody, shouting about his intention to kill JFK. Apparently, a very similar tantrum in both buildings. Where the CIA had LOTS of listening devices. I'm sure that it must be in there, because it was already in the Warren Commission report, about the GAP in the tape recording, during crucial discussions either with or about Oswald, recorded in Mexico City. The "Mexican stuff" that Nixon thought he might use to blackmail the CIA into helping his efforts to stay in office at all costs. The truth is out there. The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK files By all accounts, Nixon wasn't thinking very clearly in 1974 as his hold on political power began to unravel. Behaving in a manner similar to a mentally ill person. They humored him at the time. Sure, Mr. President. I'll go to the CIA and tell them to get the FBI to STOP their investigation of the Watergate break in coverup. Like you say, Mr. President, I'll warn the CIA that if they DON'T, "The Mexican stuff will come out." Of course they did not. They would have had to explain to Nixon that it would be mutual suicide for him to carry out the threat. The CIA knew damn well that Nixon personally intervened to sabotage the peace talks in Paris in 1968. Nixon got the message to South Vietnam's president Thieu that he could get a much better deal if he waited for Nixon to get elected president later that year. So what if prolonging the war would cost tens of thousands of addtional US military lives, and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese? Johnson's hope for reelection was toast if the peace talks didn't get anywhere. The rest is history. Nixon would have had a tough time convincing anyone that the CIA incompetence in failing to notify the Secret Service was a whole lot worse than his treasonous efforts to sabotage US foreign policy as a private citizen. In other words you were instructed to sway the topic from JFK to Nixon. So, you vish to test me, good. Just act normal. I think he's on to us. JFK to Nixon pivot... let's pretend it was SWAN'S idea. Yeah... NIXON did plenty of despicable things. To his credit, Nixon made historic environmental protection progress. Now being ripped apart with a chainsaw. But here is where is one of many examples where Nixon's moral superiority to Trump is clear. Nixon BARELY lost the election in 1960. A thorough investigation might very well have revealed that he actually WON. Nixon knew that. He could have been a sore loser and thrown a hissy fit. There WERE fradulent votes on an election altering scale in both Illinois and Texas. Nixon could have gotten very ugly about it, with LEGITIMATE evidence to support his case. Fortunately, Nixon loved his country enough not to pull a "Trump" in 1960. Trump has all the real JFK files, the ones that he declassified as the law demanded during his first term. Since he declassified them there can be no crime in keeping 300 copies of them in various locations. Waving to the bleached blonde turd in the white cheep PS. Nice try invoking Nixon I nevur rilly liked coledge, anyway. |
07-04-2025 19:25 | |
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Im a BM wrote: Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and simply did nothing which violates the espionage act quite clearly. Trump has the files, so fire away kiddy IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
07-04-2025 19:53 | |
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Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote: "Bush was in charge of the CIA..." True. But NOT in 1963 when it might have given him insider knowledge of Oswald while he was still alive. When Nixon resigned in 1974, Bush was technically in charge of the CIA. He was appointed to replace the disgraced director who resigned before him. The Nixon tapes have some hilarious quotes about Bush. "Mr. Clean" they called CIA Director Bush, to mock the fact that he had no scandals in his personal history and was an uncontroversial nominee to get them out of an embarrassing jam. But I'm pretty sure that Bush had little connection to the events of 1963. Even as recently as 40 years ago I still gave JFK the benefit of the doubt. I believed he was at odds with the CIA and was a threat to the good old boys. I believed that he had every intention of pulling us out of Vietnam soon, and was at war with the powers that be who wanted us to stay in. I had seen credible reports that JFK was absolutely enraged at the CIA when he learned that they were continuing to conduct sabotage operations in Cuba, setting fire to cane fields, etc. at the height of the missile crisis. Kennedy wasn't as cool as I thought. He actually loved the cloak and dagger stuff. He was happy to authorize those sabotage operations in Cuba. He just didn't want to do it at the precise moment when it could have set off WWIII. |
08-04-2025 03:12 | |
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Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580066-9.pdf There is the guy in charge of this, and another guy in charge of that, and a guy in charge of the grassy knoll. IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
08-04-2025 03:30 | |
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Bush's house. Just the way it is. But on a positive note. Trump still has them all. Simon says. Smile I haven't had a chance to read much of "them" (JFK files) yet, either. From the descriptions I've read, it's not clear if it included witness testimony from retired personnel who worked at the Cuban Consulate or Soviet Embassy in Mexico City in the fall of 1963. Oswald ASTOUNDED everybody, shouting about his intention to kill JFK. Apparently, a very similar tantrum in both buildings. Where the CIA had LOTS of listening devices. I'm sure that it must be in there, because it was already in the Warren Commission report, about the GAP in the tape recording, during crucial discussions either with or about Oswald, recorded in Mexico City. The "Mexican stuff" that Nixon thought he might use to blackmail the CIA into helping his efforts to stay in office at all costs. The truth is out there. The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK files By all accounts, Nixon wasn't thinking very clearly in 1974 as his hold on political power began to unravel. Behaving in a manner similar to a mentally ill person. They humored him at the time. Sure, Mr. President. I'll go to the CIA and tell them to get the FBI to STOP their investigation of the Watergate break in coverup. Like you say, Mr. President, I'll warn the CIA that if they DON'T, "The Mexican stuff will come out." Of course they did not. They would have had to explain to Nixon that it would be mutual suicide for him to carry out the threat. The CIA knew damn well that Nixon personally intervened to sabotage the peace talks in Paris in 1968. Nixon got the message to South Vietnam's president Thieu that he could get a much better deal if he waited for Nixon to get elected president later that year. So what if prolonging the war would cost tens of thousands of addtional US military lives, and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese? Johnson's hope for reelection was toast if the peace talks didn't get anywhere. The rest is history. Nixon would have had a tough time convincing anyone that the CIA incompetence in failing to notify the Secret Service was a whole lot worse than his treasonous efforts to sabotage US foreign policy as a private citizen. In other words you were instructed to sway the topic from JFK to Nixon. So, you vish to test me, good. Just act normal. I think he's on to us. JFK to Nixon pivot... let's pretend it was SWAN'S idea. Yeah... NIXON did plenty of despicable things. To his credit, Nixon made historic environmental protection progress. Now being ripped apart with a chainsaw. But here is where is one of many examples where Nixon's moral superiority to Trump is clear. Nixon BARELY lost the election in 1960. A thorough investigation might very well have revealed that he actually WON. Nixon knew that. He could have been a sore loser and thrown a hissy fit. There WERE fradulent votes on an election altering scale in both Illinois and Texas. Nixon could have gotten very ugly about it, with LEGITIMATE evidence to support his case. Fortunately, Nixon loved his country enough not to pull a "Trump" in 1960. Trump has all the real JFK files, the ones that he declassified as the law demanded during his first term. Since he declassified them there can be no crime in keeping 300 copies of them in various locations. Waving to the bleached blonde turd in the white cheep PS. Nice try invoking Nixon I nevur rilly liked coledge, anyway.[/quote] Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and simply did nothing which violates the espionage act quite clearly. Trump has the files, so fire away kiddy[/quote] "Bush was in charge of the CIA..." True. But NOT in 1963 when it might have given him insider knowledge of Oswald while he was still alive. When Nixon resigned in 1974, Bush was technically in charge of the CIA. He was appointed to replace the disgraced director who resigned before him. The Nixon tapes have some hilarious quotes about Bush. "Mr. Clean" they called CIA Director Bush, to mock the fact that he had no scandals in his personal history and was an uncontroversial nominee to get them out of an embarrassing jam. But I'm pretty sure that Bush had little connection to the events of 1963. Even as recently as 40 years ago I still gave JFK the benefit of the doubt. I believed he was at odds with the CIA and was a threat to the good old boys. I believed that he had every intention of pulling us out of Vietnam soon, and was at war with the powers that be who wanted us to stay in. I had seen credible reports that JFK was absolutely enraged at the CIA when he learned that they were continuing to conduct sabotage operations in Cuba, setting fire to cane fields, etc. at the height of the missile crisis. Kennedy wasn't as cool as I thought. He actually loved the cloak and dagger stuff. He was happy to authorize those sabotage operations in Cuba. He just didn't want to do it at the precise moment when it could have set off WWIII.[/quote] There is the guy in charge of this, and another guy in charge of that, and a guy in charge of the grassy knoll. George Herbert Walker Bush... Where was HE in '63? Let's see. Dubya's daddy began his political career in '63, all right. He didn't exactly head the CIA, but he WAS elected chairman of the Harris County (Texas) Republican Party. In 1963. When he BEGAN his career in politics. Our local conspiracy buff seems to think Dubya's dad helped kill JFK. "Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and did nothing" Becoming chairman of the Harris County, Texas Republican Party apparently comes with access to some very deep state information. I wonder how many other county chairmen of the Republican Party in Texas also had access to this presumably secret information. What if there was more than one state in which Republican Party county chairmen were also included in the conspiracy to kill JFK? That would seem like a lot of people must have known about it. Oh, man, do I feel STUPID. Getting senile perhaps. It wasn't Nixon who appointed Bush to be CIA director, it was Gerald Ford. The stuff about "Mr. Clean" was about William Ruckelshaus. Bush wasn't even in the White House in 1974, let alone 1963. Bush was not CIA director in 1974, when Nixon asked Halderman to go tell the CIA that "all the Mexican stuff would come out" unless the CIA assisted Nixon's escape from any repercussions from his role in covering up for the Watergate break in. If my faulty memory had been correct about who appointed Bush to CIA and when (Ford, in '76, not Nixon in '74)... Well that would have been a chance for Dubya's daddy to learn about what the CIA knew about Oswald in 1963. Bush could have learned about it in '76, when he really did become CIA director. But my understanding is that the bad boys in the CIA never really felt the bromance with Bush and weren't too interested in filling him in on the more nefarious aspects of their history. Bush had to learn about it from Senate hearings, like everybody else. Of course, I've been wrong before. For a moment I thought I remembered so clearly that it was BUSH who was Nixon's "Mr. Clean". Edited on 08-04-2025 04:20 |
08-04-2025 18:35 | |
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Im a BM wrote: Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and simply did nothing which violates the espionage act quite clearly. Trump has the files, so fire away kiddy[/quote] "Bush was in charge of the CIA..." True. But NOT in 1963 when it might have given him insider knowledge of Oswald while he was still alive. When Nixon resigned in 1974, Bush was technically in charge of the CIA. He was appointed to replace the disgraced director who resigned before him. The Nixon tapes have some hilarious quotes about Bush. "Mr. Clean" they called CIA Director Bush, to mock the fact that he had no scandals in his personal history and was an uncontroversial nominee to get them out of an embarrassing jam. But I'm pretty sure that Bush had little connection to the events of 1963. Even as recently as 40 years ago I still gave JFK the benefit of the doubt. I believed he was at odds with the CIA and was a threat to the good old boys. I believed that he had every intention of pulling us out of Vietnam soon, and was at war with the powers that be who wanted us to stay in. I had seen credible reports that JFK was absolutely enraged at the CIA when he learned that they were continuing to conduct sabotage operations in Cuba, setting fire to cane fields, etc. at the height of the missile crisis. Kennedy wasn't as cool as I thought. He actually loved the cloak and dagger stuff. He was happy to authorize those sabotage operations in Cuba. He just didn't want to do it at the precise moment when it could have set off WWIII.[/quote] There is the guy in charge of this, and another guy in charge of that, and a guy in charge of the grassy knoll. George Herbert Walker Bush... Where was HE in '63? Let's see. Dubya's daddy began his political career in '63, all right. He didn't exactly head the CIA, but he WAS elected chairman of the Harris County (Texas) Republican Party. In 1963. When he BEGAN his career in politics. Our local conspiracy buff seems to think Dubya's dad helped kill JFK. "Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and did nothing" Becoming chairman of the Harris County, Texas Republican Party apparently comes with access to some very deep state information. I wonder how many other county chairmen of the Republican Party in Texas also had access to this presumably secret information. What if there was more than one state in which Republican Party county chairmen were also included in the conspiracy to kill JFK? That would seem like a lot of people must have known about it. Oh, man, do I feel STUPID. Getting senile perhaps. It wasn't Nixon who appointed Bush to be CIA director, it was Gerald Ford. The stuff about "Mr. Clean" was about William Ruckelshaus. Bush wasn't even in the White House in 1974, let alone 1963. Bush was not CIA director in 1974, when Nixon asked Halderman to go tell the CIA that "all the Mexican stuff would come out" unless the CIA assisted Nixon's escape from any repercussions from his role in covering up for the Watergate break in. If my faulty memory had been correct about who appointed Bush to CIA and when (Ford, in '76, not Nixon in '74)... Well that would have been a chance for Dubya's daddy to learn about what the CIA knew about Oswald in 1963. Bush could have learned about it in '76, when he really did become CIA director. But my understanding is that the bad boys in the CIA never really felt the bromance with Bush and weren't too interested in filling him in on the more nefarious aspects of their history. Bush had to learn about it from Senate hearings, like everybody else. Of course, I've been wrong before. For a moment I thought I remembered so clearly that it was BUSH who was Nixon's "Mr. Clean".[/quote] One does not need to be the CIA director to direct an assasination IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
08-04-2025 19:06 | |
Im a BM★★★★★ (2282) |
Kennedy Rekilled - The Prequel Kennedy got killed in part 1. They didn't even call it "part 1" until they made the Conspiracy Sequel. Now it's time to make one about the back story, BEFORE anyone decided to shoot the guy. Kennedy Rekilled - The Prequel Before we see the Soviet fleet and the US Naval fleet facing off during a blockade in the Gulf of MEXICO, we get some quick action from the beach at the "Bay of Pigs", Bahia de los Cochinos. The mercenaries are being routed and one of the Americans among them is screaming "Where the **** is that air support they promised us?" Okay, now the stakes are very high. The Soviets have secretly transported a bunch of ballistic nuclear missile to Cuba. The Americans have discovered it and the shit is hitting the fan. According to US intelligence, in just a matter of weeks, maybe less, those missiles could be brought to operational status. There was only a brief window of time before it would be possible for the Soviets to launch a first strike from an island 90 miles off the coast of Florida. They were wrong. But they were confident that there was no way those missiles could become operational in a matter of days. They were confident that they could eyeball it with the Soviet fleet in the Gulf of MEXICO, with no risk that those missiles nearby could be launched. Sure, the Soviets had a lot of other missiles they could launch, but they were so far away it was a completely different equation. Plenty of warning time for that devastating retaliatory strike for the "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) that everyone relied on to keep the peace. Kennedy thought is wasn't the ultimate high-risk gamble to go ahead and confront them right away. He was wrong. By the time everybody's navies were in position, half of the missiles that the Soviets installed were ALREADY operational. The Soviet fleet wasn't really up to snuff for the mission. Their best nuclear powered subs were in the shop for repairs. They would have to send some of those old diesel burners, armed only with "tactical" nukes. The little kind that just take out a few ships or maybe an entire fleet. "Tactical" nukes weren't necessarily the tipping point for mutually assured destruction, were they? So, it's getting hot and heavy up at the surface. Cubans have been shooting at US recon aircraft, and Americans have been firing "warning shots" over the tops of Soviet ships. The submarine commanders are nervously following the action. One Soviet submarine is close to where those "warning shot" were fired by the US, and they think it's the real thing. They are a diesel burner with just the right kind of tactical nukes to take out those American ships. Like the US, the Soviet subs couldn't launch these things unless two authorized officers simultaneously turned two different keys. And they were arguing. One was the military commander of the sub, and the other was the Party political officer. One of them sacrificed his career and more to prevent WWIII. They did not launch, and it didn't go all the way. Those missiles in Cuba were ALREADY set to launch on demand. Fortunately, they all stayed on the ground, and eventually got hauled back to Russia. We pulled our nukes out of Turkey a bit later to reward their good behavior. So why did everyone want to kill Kennedy after that? From the Bay of Pigs on, Kennedy was just too much of a pussy for the deep state militarists who were hell bent on a "forever war" in Vietnam. Kennedy knew that the stupid Bay of Pigs operation was failing, and he didn't even send in air support. Kennedy felt he had been conned by the guys who said we would be greeted with flowers as liberators kind of thing. It was supposed to be a walkover. Maybe they really believed it would succeed as they promised. Or maybe they just assumed that once shit got started, Kennedy would HAVE to come in with air support, whether he liked it or not. So, as much as Kennedy loved the cloak and dagger stuff enough to authorize Bay of Pigs in the first place, how it turned out created bad blood. As much as Kennedy STILL loved the cloak and dagger AFTER Bay of Pigs, enough to authorize the continuing sabotage missions in Cuba etc., more bad blood was created when they didn't tell him they weren't pausing just because the Soviet fleet was ready to battle the US, perhaps over the slightest provocation. The conspiracy theory goes that after this, the cabal of powerful elite deep state aliens in disguise or whatever they are... They decided to kill Kennedy. They exerted long distance mind control over Lee Harvey Oswald who honestly believed it was his OWN IDEA to kill the president. And when their servants at the CIA overheard Oswald yelling about his plans at both the Cuban Consulate and Soviet Embassy (not the same building, in case you think they are all one) in Mexico City.. They took measures to ensure that nobody informed the Secret Service. And that included George Herbert Walker Bush who was secretly in charge of the CIA at the time. Back to reality. The folks at the Cuban Consulate were astounded by the temper tantrum Oswald threw when they refused to grant him a visa. They were all talking about it. Word got all the way up to the boss. In the weeks before the assassination, Castro was specifically asking if anyone had gotten any follow up information about that crazy guy who came into their Consulate. Did they find out if he was really going to do it? |
08-04-2025 21:58 | |
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Im a BM wrote: Legalize recreational Plutonium IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
10-04-2025 00:16 | |
Im a BM★★★★★ (2282) |
Kennedy Rekilled - The Prequel Kennedy got killed in part 1. They didn't even call it "part 1" until they made the Conspiracy Sequel. Now it's time to make one about the back story, BEFORE anyone decided to shoot the guy. Kennedy Rekilled - The Prequel Before we see the Soviet fleet and the US Naval fleet facing off during a blockade in the Gulf of MEXICO, we get some quick action from the beach at the "Bay of Pigs", Bahia de los Cochinos. The mercenaries are being routed and one of the Americans among them is screaming "Where the **** is that air support they promised us?" Okay, now the stakes are very high. The Soviets have secretly transported a bunch of ballistic nuclear missile to Cuba. The Americans have discovered it and the shit is hitting the fan. According to US intelligence, in just a matter of weeks, maybe less, those missiles could be brought to operational status. There was only a brief window of time before it would be possible for the Soviets to launch a first strike from an island 90 miles off the coast of Florida. They were wrong. But they were confident that there was no way those missiles could become operational in a matter of days. They were confident that they could eyeball it with the Soviet fleet in the Gulf of MEXICO, with no risk that those missiles nearby could be launched. Sure, the Soviets had a lot of other missiles they could launch, but they were so far away it was a completely different equation. Plenty of warning time for that devastating retaliatory strike for the "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) that everyone relied on to keep the peace. Kennedy thought is wasn't the ultimate high-risk gamble to go ahead and confront them right away. He was wrong. By the time everybody's navies were in position, half of the missiles that the Soviets installed were ALREADY operational. The Soviet fleet wasn't really up to snuff for the mission. Their best nuclear powered subs were in the shop for repairs. They would have to send some of those old diesel burners, armed only with "tactical" nukes. The little kind that just take out a few ships or maybe an entire fleet. "Tactical" nukes weren't necessarily the tipping point for mutually assured destruction, were they? So, it's getting hot and heavy up at the surface. Cubans have been shooting at US recon aircraft, and Americans have been firing "warning shots" over the tops of Soviet ships. The submarine commanders are nervously following the action. One Soviet submarine is close to where those "warning shot" were fired by the US, and they think it's the real thing. They are a diesel burner with just the right kind of tactical nukes to take out those American ships. Like the US, the Soviet subs couldn't launch these things unless two authorized officers simultaneously turned two different keys. And they were arguing. One was the military commander of the sub, and the other was the Party political officer. One of them sacrificed his career and more to prevent WWIII. They did not launch, and it didn't go all the way. Those missiles in Cuba were ALREADY set to launch on demand. Fortunately, they all stayed on the ground, and eventually got hauled back to Russia. We pulled our nukes out of Turkey a bit later to reward their good behavior. So why did everyone want to kill Kennedy after that? From the Bay of Pigs on, Kennedy was just too much of a pussy for the deep state militarists who were hell bent on a "forever war" in Vietnam. Kennedy knew that the stupid Bay of Pigs operation was failing, and he didn't even send in air support. Kennedy felt he had been conned by the guys who said we would be greeted with flowers as liberators kind of thing. It was supposed to be a walkover. Maybe they really believed it would succeed as they promised. Or maybe they just assumed that once shit got started, Kennedy would HAVE to come in with air support, whether he liked it or not. So, as much as Kennedy loved the cloak and dagger stuff enough to authorize Bay of Pigs in the first place, how it turned out created bad blood. As much as Kennedy STILL loved the cloak and dagger AFTER Bay of Pigs, enough to authorize the continuing sabotage missions in Cuba etc., more bad blood was created when they didn't tell him they weren't pausing just because the Soviet fleet was ready to battle the US, perhaps over the slightest provocation. The conspiracy theory goes that after this, the cabal of powerful elite deep state aliens in disguise or whatever they are... They decided to kill Kennedy. They exerted long distance mind control over Lee Harvey Oswald who honestly believed it was his OWN IDEA to kill the president. And when their servants at the CIA overheard Oswald yelling about his plans at both the Cuban Consulate and Soviet Embassy (not the same building, in case you think they are all one) in Mexico City.. They took measures to ensure that nobody informed the Secret Service. And that included George Herbert Walker Bush who was secretly in charge of the CIA at the time. Back to reality. The folks at the Cuban Consulate were astounded by the temper tantrum Oswald threw when they refused to grant him a visa. They were all talking about it. Word got all the way up to the boss. In the weeks before the assassination, Castro was specifically asking if anyone had gotten any follow up information about that crazy guy who came into their Consulate. Did they find out if he was really going to do it? |
10-04-2025 18:57 | |
Im a BM★★★★★ (2282) |
Kennedy Rekilled - The Prequel Kennedy got killed first in part 1. They didn't even call it "part 1" until they made the Conspiracy Sequels. Now it's time to make one about the back story, BEFORE anyone decided to shoot the guy. Kennedy Rekilled - The Prequel Before we see the Soviet fleet and the US Naval fleet facing off during a blockade in the Gulf of MEXICO, we get some quick action from the beach at the "Bay of Pigs", Bahia de los Cochinos. The mercenaries are being routed and one of the Americans among them is screaming "Where the **** is that air support they promised us?" Okay, now the stakes are very high. The Soviets have secretly transported a bunch of ballistic nuclear missile to Cuba. The Americans have discovered it and the shit is hitting the fan. According to US intelligence, in just a matter of weeks, maybe less, those missiles could be brought to operational status. There was only a brief window of time before it would be possible for the Soviets to launch a first strike from an island 90 miles off the coast of Florida. They were wrong. But they were confident that there was no way those missiles could become operational in a matter of days. They were confident that they could eyeball it with the Soviet fleet in the Gulf of MEXICO, with no risk that those missiles nearby could be launched. Sure, the Soviets had a lot of other missiles they could launch, but they were so far away it was a completely different equation. Plenty of warning time for that devastating retaliatory strike for the "mutual assured destruction" (MAD) that everyone relied on to keep the peace. Kennedy thought is wasn't the ultimate high-risk gamble to go ahead and confront them right away. He was wrong. By the time everybody's navies were in position, half of the missiles that the Soviets installed were ALREADY operational. The Soviet fleet wasn't really up to snuff for the mission. Their best nuclear powered subs were in the shop for repairs. They would have to send some of those old diesel burners, armed only with "tactical" nukes. The little kind that just take out a few ships or maybe an entire fleet. "Tactical" nukes weren't necessarily the tipping point for mutually assured destruction, were they? So, it's getting hot and heavy up at the surface. Cubans have been shooting at US recon aircraft, and Americans have been firing "warning shots" over the tops of Soviet ships. The submarine commanders are nervously following the action. One Soviet submarine is close to where those "warning shot" were fired by the US, and they think it's the real thing. They are a diesel burner with just the right kind of tactical nukes to take out those American ships. Like the US, the Soviet subs couldn't launch these things unless two authorized officers simultaneously turned two different keys. And they were arguing. One was the military commander of the sub, and the other was the Party political officer. One of them sacrificed his career and more to prevent WWIII. They did not launch, and it didn't go all the way. Those missiles in Cuba were ALREADY set to launch on demand. Fortunately, they all stayed on the ground, and eventually got hauled back to Russia. We pulled our nukes out of Turkey a bit later to reward their good behavior. So why did everyone want to kill Kennedy after that? From the Bay of Pigs on, they say Kennedy was just too much of a pussy for the deep state militarists who were hell bent on a "forever war" in Vietnam. Kennedy knew that the stupid Bay of Pigs operation was failing, and he didn't even send in air support. But Kennedy felt he had been conned by the guys who said we would be greeted with flowers as liberators kind of thing. It was supposed to be a walkover. Maybe they really believed it would succeed as they promised. Or maybe they just assumed that once shit got started, Kennedy would HAVE to come in with air support, whether he liked it or not. So, as much as Kennedy loved the cloak and dagger stuff enough to authorize Bay of Pigs in the first place, how it turned out created bad blood. As much as Kennedy STILL loved the cloak and dagger AFTER Bay of Pigs, enough to authorize the continuing sabotage missions in Cuba etc., more bad blood was created when they didn't tell him they weren't pausing just because the Soviet fleet was ready to battle the US, perhaps over the slightest provocation. The conspiracy theory goes that after this, the cabal of powerful elite deep state aliens in disguise or whatever they are... They decided to kill Kennedy. They somehow exerted long distance mind control over Lee Harvey Oswald who honestly believed it was his OWN IDEA to kill the president. And when their servants at the CIA overheard Oswald yelling about his plans at both the Cuban Consulate and Soviet Embassy (not the same building, in case you think they are all one) in Mexico City.. They took measures to ensure that nobody informed the Secret Service. And that included George Herbert Walker Bush who was secretly in charge of the CIA at the time. Back to reality. The folks at the Cuban Consulate were astounded by the temper tantrum Oswald threw when they refused to grant him a visa. They were all talking about it. Word got all the way up to the boss. In the weeks before the assassination, Castro was specifically asking if anyone had gotten any follow up information about that crazy guy who came into their Consulate. Did they find out anything about him? Did they think he was really going to do it? |
11-04-2025 10:06 | |
Into the Night![]() (23051) |
Stop spamming. |
11-04-2025 20:13 | |
Swan![]() (6496) |
Into the Night wrote: How does one stop spamming a fake government website designed for spamming? Ask the judge. IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
11-04-2025 23:07 | |
Im a BM★★★★★ (2282) |
Swan wrote:Into the Night wrote: Science is not a banana. |
12-04-2025 02:21 | |
Swan![]() (6496) |
Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Into the Night wrote: Everything is science. Even your crayons IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? ![]() Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy ![]() Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
16-04-2025 20:31 | |
Im a BM★★★★★ (2282) |
What did CHINA really want Nixon to do in Vietnam? China provided significant assistance to ideologically compatible military forces in Vietnam during the American war there. However, as Nixon bombed the shit out of Hanoi during the "Christmas bombing" in 1972, he was busy making friends again with China. Nixon didn't seem too concerned that his extreme escalation of military action would handicap his efforts to reestablish a relationship with China. China didn't display a whole lot of concern about it either. Eerily silent during the Christmas bombing, China did not object in outrage. Alexander Haig, Nixon's Secretary of State, gave a speech at a conservative conference in 1980 during which he made a stunning revelation. Haig claimed that during those negotiations with China, he was told very explicitly that China wanted the US not only to continue the war in Vietnam, but wanted the United States to go all in and WIN the war in Vietnam. At the time, 1980, I just assumed Alexander Haig was LYING. I figured that for whatever reason, he thought that it would be an impressive story to tell. Now I'm not so sure that he wasn't telling the truth. Bush's house. Just the way it is. But on a positive note. Trump still has them all. Simon says. Smile I haven't had a chance to read much of "them" (JFK files) yet, either. From the descriptions I've read, it's not clear if it included witness testimony from retired personnel who worked at the Cuban Consulate or Soviet Embassy in Mexico City in the fall of 1963. Oswald ASTOUNDED everybody, shouting about his intention to kill JFK. Apparently, a very similar tantrum in both buildings. Where the CIA had LOTS of listening devices. I'm sure that it must be in there, because it was already in the Warren Commission report, about the GAP in the tape recording, during crucial discussions either with or about Oswald, recorded in Mexico City. The "Mexican stuff" that Nixon thought he might use to blackmail the CIA into helping his efforts to stay in office at all costs. The truth is out there. The media is circulating fake pyramid stories to keep the conspiracy theorist busy enough so that they do not notice that only Trump has the real JFK files By all accounts, Nixon wasn't thinking very clearly in 1974 as his hold on political power began to unravel. Behaving in a manner similar to a mentally ill person. They humored him at the time. Sure, Mr. President. I'll go to the CIA and tell them to get the FBI to STOP their investigation of the Watergate break in coverup. Like you say, Mr. President, I'll warn the CIA that if they DON'T, "The Mexican stuff will come out." Of course they did not. They would have had to explain to Nixon that it would be mutual suicide for him to carry out the threat. The CIA knew damn well that Nixon personally intervened to sabotage the peace talks in Paris in 1968. Nixon got the message to South Vietnam's president Thieu that he could get a much better deal if he waited for Nixon to get elected president later that year. So what if prolonging the war would cost tens of thousands of addtional US military lives, and the lives of hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese? Johnson's hope for reelection was toast if the peace talks didn't get anywhere. The rest is history. Nixon would have had a tough time convincing anyone that the CIA incompetence in failing to notify the Secret Service was a whole lot worse than his treasonous efforts to sabotage US foreign policy as a private citizen. In other words you were instructed to sway the topic from JFK to Nixon. So, you vish to test me, good. Just act normal. I think he's on to us. JFK to Nixon pivot... let's pretend it was SWAN'S idea. Yeah... NIXON did plenty of despicable things. To his credit, Nixon made historic environmental protection progress. Now being ripped apart with a chainsaw. But here is where is one of many examples where Nixon's moral superiority to Trump is clear. Nixon BARELY lost the election in 1960. A thorough investigation might very well have revealed that he actually WON. Nixon knew that. He could have been a sore loser and thrown a hissy fit. There WERE fradulent votes on an election altering scale in both Illinois and Texas. Nixon could have gotten very ugly about it, with LEGITIMATE evidence to support his case. Fortunately, Nixon loved his country enough not to pull a "Trump" in 1960. Trump has all the real JFK files, the ones that he declassified as the law demanded during his first term. Since he declassified them there can be no crime in keeping 300 copies of them in various locations. Waving to the bleached blonde turd in the white cheep PS. Nice try invoking Nixon I nevur rilly liked coledge, anyway.[/quote] Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and simply did nothing which violates the espionage act quite clearly. Trump has the files, so fire away kiddy[/quote] "Bush was in charge of the CIA..." True. But NOT in 1963 when it might have given him insider knowledge of Oswald while he was still alive. When Nixon resigned in 1974, Bush was technically in charge of the CIA. He was appointed to replace the disgraced director who resigned before him. The Nixon tapes have some hilarious quotes about Bush. "Mr. Clean" they called CIA Director Bush, to mock the fact that he had no scandals in his personal history and was an uncontroversial nominee to get them out of an embarrassing jam. But I'm pretty sure that Bush had little connection to the events of 1963. Even as recently as 40 years ago I still gave JFK the benefit of the doubt. I believed he was at odds with the CIA and was a threat to the good old boys. I believed that he had every intention of pulling us out of Vietnam soon, and was at war with the powers that be who wanted us to stay in. I had seen credible reports that JFK was absolutely enraged at the CIA when he learned that they were continuing to conduct sabotage operations in Cuba, setting fire to cane fields, etc. at the height of the missile crisis. Kennedy wasn't as cool as I thought. He actually loved the cloak and dagger stuff. He was happy to authorize those sabotage operations in Cuba. He just didn't want to do it at the precise moment when it could have set off WWIII.[/quote] There is the guy in charge of this, and another guy in charge of that, and a guy in charge of the grassy knoll. George Herbert Walker Bush... Where was HE in '63? Let's see. Dubya's daddy began his political career in '63, all right. He didn't exactly head the CIA, but he WAS elected chairman of the Harris County (Texas) Republican Party. In 1963. When he BEGAN his career in politics. Our local conspiracy buff seems to think Dubya's dad helped kill JFK. "Bush was in charge of the CIA, he had prior knowledge that Oswald was planning to assassinate JFK and did nothing" Becoming chairman of the Harris County, Texas Republican Party apparently comes with access to some very deep state information. I wonder how many other county chairmen of the Republican Party in Texas also had access to this presumably secret information. What if there was more than one state in which Republican Party county chairmen were also included in the conspiracy to kill JFK? That would seem like a lot of people must have known about it. Oh, man, do I feel STUPID. Getting senile perhaps. It wasn't Nixon who appointed Bush to be CIA director, it was Gerald Ford. The stuff about "Mr. Clean" was about William Ruckelshaus. Bush wasn't even in the White House in 1974, let alone 1963. Bush was not CIA director in 1974, when Nixon asked Halderman to go tell the CIA that "all the Mexican stuff would come out" unless the CIA assisted Nixon's escape from any repercussions from his role in covering up for the Watergate break in. If my faulty memory had been correct about who appointed Bush to CIA and when (Ford, in '76, not Nixon in '74)... Well that would have been a chance for Dubya's daddy to learn about what the CIA knew about Oswald in 1963. Bush could have learned about it in '76, when he really did become CIA director. But my understanding is that the bad boys in the CIA never really felt the bromance with Bush and weren't too interested in filling him in on the more nefarious aspects of their history. Bush had to learn about it from Senate hearings, like everybody else. Of course, I've been wrong before. For a moment I thought I remembered so clearly that it was BUSH who was Nixon's "Mr. Clean". |
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