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The Corrupting Effect of (Liberal) Political Activism


The Corrupting Effect of (Liberal) Political Activism25-07-2017 23:55
StarMan
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by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


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26-07-2017 00:51
Into the Night
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StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This paper makes a lot of good points and is well argued.

I have often complained about the state of the educational system myself. It is for these same reasons.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 01:47
Wake
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StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.
26-07-2017 02:19
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.


This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement. No one is yet building that replacement. You could always try to get an education in some other nation that doesn't do this to their schools, but culture differences, language differences, and of course our lower level of education is going to make it difficult to even get IN to such schools.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 02:23
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.


This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement. No one is yet building that replacement. You could always try to get an education in some other nation that doesn't do this to their schools, but culture differences, language differences, and of course our lower level of education is going to make it difficult to even get IN to such schools.


And again you show a deplorable lack of understanding on the most basic levels. You don't even have the ability to ASK if you don't understand something.
26-07-2017 03:02
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.


This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement. No one is yet building that replacement. You could always try to get an education in some other nation that doesn't do this to their schools, but culture differences, language differences, and of course our lower level of education is going to make it difficult to even get IN to such schools.


And again you show a deplorable lack of understanding on the most basic levels. You don't even have the ability to ASK if you don't understand something.


Perhaps you intended to mean something else. Care to clarify?


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 08:54
litesong
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[b]Into the Night wrote: This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement.

old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filth vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiners believe the best educational backgrounds are by firelight, while wearing the white robes & pointy hats of kkk academia. Bloodstains of their victims are shown as high honors in achievement..... except in the vicinity of the sheriff, unless the sheriff is wearing same.
26-07-2017 19:47
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.


This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement. No one is yet building that replacement. You could always try to get an education in some other nation that doesn't do this to their schools, but culture differences, language differences, and of course our lower level of education is going to make it difficult to even get IN to such schools.


And again you show a deplorable lack of understanding on the most basic levels. You don't even have the ability to ASK if you don't understand something.


Perhaps you intended to mean something else. Care to clarify?


All it would have taken was for you to actually read Starman's referenced article. But instead you shoot your mouth off as if you had the slightest clue about what is going on. It certainly is easy to see who the real "deplorables" really are.
26-07-2017 21:26
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.


This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement. No one is yet building that replacement. You could always try to get an education in some other nation that doesn't do this to their schools, but culture differences, language differences, and of course our lower level of education is going to make it difficult to even get IN to such schools.


And again you show a deplorable lack of understanding on the most basic levels. You don't even have the ability to ASK if you don't understand something.


Perhaps you intended to mean something else. Care to clarify?


All it would have taken was for you to actually read Starman's referenced article. But instead you shoot your mouth off as if you had the slightest clue about what is going on. It certainly is easy to see who the real "deplorables" really are.


I did read the article, dumbass. It is obvious now that you only want to practice your Bulverism.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 21:43
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
by the National Association of Scholars

https://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Crisis_of_Competence.pdf

Incidentally, to those on the *brilliant* Left, how does your *genius* square with the decline in education which exactly parallels the politicization of public education by liberal extremists?

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


This is why the Asians that immigrate to the USA are the highest paid workers in this country. They do not politicize their own educations and concentrate entirely upon learning.

This started in the '80's and I watched it growing as each successive graduating class had less and less ability to so much as comprehend the world around them.

There is only ONE answer - leave them behind.


This of course means discarding the present universities for some kind of replacement. No one is yet building that replacement. You could always try to get an education in some other nation that doesn't do this to their schools, but culture differences, language differences, and of course our lower level of education is going to make it difficult to even get IN to such schools.


And again you show a deplorable lack of understanding on the most basic levels. You don't even have the ability to ASK if you don't understand something.


Perhaps you intended to mean something else. Care to clarify?


All it would have taken was for you to actually read Starman's referenced article. But instead you shoot your mouth off as if you had the slightest clue about what is going on. It certainly is easy to see who the real "deplorables" really are.


I did read the article, dumbass. It is obvious now that you only want to practice your Bulverism.


I wonder if you think that it isn't clear that you have a copy of "The Big Book Of Words You Should Know To Sound Smart: A Guide for Aspiring Intellectuals".
26-07-2017 22:27
StarMan
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Speaking of *intellectualism*, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber.
Brilliance and environmentalism, all wrapped up in one deadly, maiming psychopath. How happy he must be, in prison for life.
26-07-2017 22:51
Wake
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StarMan wrote:
Speaking of *intellectualism*, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber.
Brilliance and environmentalism, all wrapped up in one deadly, maiming psychopath. How happy he must be, in prison for life.


I have commented that NightMare speaks from a position so much like a person that doesn't understand science but reads what is randomly called "science fiction" or "fantasy" that it should come as no surprise that his using the word "Bulverism" shows that he is a fan of C.S. Lewis who invented that word pulling it out of his butt as he did all of his writings such as Narnia and The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. Fantasy and Science Fiction has damaged science quite a lot giving many people the idea that John Carter could actually live on Mars and suchlike.

These are the sorts of people here arguing that they know "science". Or arguing that "truth" and "true" do not mean the same thing.
26-07-2017 23:37
Into the Night
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StarMan wrote:
Speaking of *intellectualism*, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber.
Brilliance and environmentalism, all wrapped up in one deadly, maiming psychopath. How happy he must be, in prison for life.


How happy I am because he is...speaking as a technologist (his primary targets).


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 23:51
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Speaking of *intellectualism*, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber.
Brilliance and environmentalism, all wrapped up in one deadly, maiming psychopath. How happy he must be, in prison for life.


I have commented that NightMare speaks from a position so much like a person that doesn't understand science but reads what is randomly called "science fiction" or "fantasy" that it should come as no surprise that his using the word "Bulverism" shows that he is a fan of C.S. Lewis who invented that word pulling it out of his butt as he did all of his writings such as Narnia and The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
Like most people, I enjoy certain fantasy and science fiction stories. I recognize they are fiction, however (unlike some people).

The term 'Bulverism' was indeed coined by C.S. Lewis. He used to describe the fallacy of rejecting an argument because of the identity of the one making the argument. In other words, not judging the argument on its own merit, but because a certain individual made it.

A favorite fallacy of yours of late.

Wake wrote:
Fantasy and Science Fiction has damaged science quite a lot giving many people the idea that John Carter could actually live on Mars and suchlike.


Heh. You're talking about an industry that can shoot sixteen million bullets out of a revolver without reloading (unless you're the bad guy in a tight situation, and then you have to throw your gun at the good guy!).

You're talking about an industry that made 'Day After Tomorrow', as a serious adventure/disaster movie so hilariously bad at meteorology and structural engineering that I call it one of the greatest comedies of our time.

You're talking about an industry that figures if a plane touches the ground at anything besides an airport runway, it will explode in a massive fireball, even when it's out of gas (such as in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom).

It's not just science fiction they are bad at. It's westerns, adventure films, disaster films, and even some documentaries.

If you can suspend science and technology and just enjoy the fiction for what it is, it's entertainment.

Wake wrote:
These are the sorts of people here arguing that they know "science".

No, people that believe the movies are real life in any fashion are warped.

Wake wrote:
Or arguing that "truth" and "true" do not mean the same thing.

Still trying this contextomy eh? Try sticking with keeping things in context.


The Parrot Killer
27-07-2017 00:14
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Still trying this contextomy eh? Try sticking with keeping things in context.[/quote]

So what you're saying (in plain English not excerpted from The Words You Should Know to Sound Smart) is that you never said that Truth wasn't the opposite of False?
27-07-2017 01:36
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Still trying this contextomy eh? Try sticking with keeping things in context.


So what you're saying (in plain English not excerpted from The Words You Should Know to Sound Smart) is that you never said that Truth wasn't the opposite of False?[/quote]

There's a Universal False?

You aren't even making sense anymore.


The Parrot Killer
27-07-2017 02:01
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Still trying this contextomy eh? Try sticking with keeping things in context.


So what you're saying (in plain English not excerpted from The Words You Should Know to Sound Smart) is that you never said that Truth wasn't the opposite of False?


There's a Universal False?

You aren't even making sense anymore.[/quote]

At what point in your life did you discover a universal truth? And you want to claim that I'm not making sense. You have fallen to the point where like Starman I have to put you on the ignore list.
27-07-2017 02:22
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Still trying this contextomy eh? Try sticking with keeping things in context.


So what you're saying (in plain English not excerpted from The Words You Should Know to Sound Smart) is that you never said that Truth wasn't the opposite of False?


There's a Universal False?

You aren't even making sense anymore.


At what point in your life did you discover a universal truth? And you want to claim that I'm not making sense. You have fallen to the point where like Starman I have to put you on the ignore list.[/quote]
I never said there WAS a Universal Truth. You certainly have though. It is how you define a 'fact'.


The Parrot Killer
27-07-2017 06:46
litesong
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Desmog article on Peter Wood, Pres. of National Ass. of Scholars:
https://www.desmogblog.com/nas-president-peter-wood-wrong-dishonest-or-hopelessly-compromised
Richard Mellon Scaife's fund to NAS.
Wood past studies are.... art, aesthetics, Catholocism and culture. He.... can (not) demonstrate the tiniest academic mastery of atmospheric physics....
Wood....question climate science...
NAS.....digging its nose into issues that are more of interest to its well-healed conservative funders.... big donors to the (less credible) NAS are also suspiciously generous to organizations such as the Competitive Enterprise Institute and the George C. Marshall Institute.... the possibility that Dr. Wood just isn't that smart - consistently and repeatedly got all the details wrong.
clownish Monckton, the discredited Singer or Steve Milloy and, now, the unfortunate Peter Wood, you have to wonder that the oily barons can't afford more impressive champions for their increasingly incredible cause.




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