Terraforming: Is it possible?
| 18-04-2025 21:49 | |
Into the Night ★★★★★(23078) |
sealover wrote: Meh. Too bad you discard the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics. sealover wrote: Rock layers are not a law of thermodynamics. Reductant is not a chemical. Photosynthetic is not a community. Oxidant is not a chemical. sealover wrote: No such word as 'oxygenic'. sealover wrote: Reductant is not a chemical or a form of energy. sealover wrote: Anything like the Great Flood? sealover wrote: The Theory of Natural Selection is not a theory of thermodynamics. The Theory of Natural Selection is not even a theory of science. It is based on a paradox. Photosynthetic is not a community. Reductant is not a chemical. sealover wrote: Reductant is not a chemical nor a theory of thermodynamics. Photosynthetic is not a community. sealover wrote: Reductant is not a chemical nor a theory of thermodynamics. Humunculus fallacy. sealover wrote: No such thing as 'terminal electron acceptors'. Reductant is not a chemical. Buzzwords are not a theory of thermodynamics. sealover wrote: Photosynthetic is not a community nor a theory of thermodynamics. Reductant is not a chemical. Oxidant is not a chemical. sealover wrote: Sediments are not a theory of thermodynamics. Reductant is not a chemical. Oxidant is not a chemical. sealover wrote: Reductant is not a chemical nor a theory of thermodynamics. Photosynthetic is not a community. sealover wrote: Photosynthesis is a chemical reaction, not the Theory of Evolution. Reductant is not a chemical. sealover wrote: Thermodynamics isn't a sediment layer. Math isn't a sediment layer. Photosynthetic is not a community. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| RE: Paleobiogeochemistry, Anoxygenic Photosynthesis, and Banded Iron Formations18-04-2025 23:29 | |
| sealover★★★★☆ (1818) |
Banded Iron Formations - A thermodynamically predictable sequence of layers This website, climate-debate.com, it the first place that this theory is "published". In one sentence: Banded iron formations consist of a thermodynamically predictable sequence of layers generated by multiple photosynthetic communities using multiple reductants from the environment, and generating multiple oxidants. Oxygenic photosynthesis gets ALL the attention. It's the one form of photosynthesis that doesn't require any energy yielding reductants (H2, H2S, As[III], Fe[II], NO2-) from the environment. The Great Oxidation was just the last step in the sequence. Thermodynamically predictable, natural selection will favor the photosynthetic community that can use the strongest reductant available in the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, the limited supply of that strongest reductant will be depleted over time, in part because photosynthesis itself is selectively consuming it and removing it from the water. Thermodynamically predictable, once that strongest available reductant is depleted, the competitive advantage goes to the photosynthetic community that can use the NEXT strongest reductant available from the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, that NEXT strongest reductant will be selectively depleted from the water, as photosynthesis itself consumes that reductant. Thermodynamically predictable, the oxidized waste products of photosynthesis act as terminal electron acceptors of varying strength, which can be used by other organisms to oxidize other reductants in the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, each successive photosynthetic community consumes a WEAKER reductant, and produces a STRONGER oxidant, than the community it replaced. Thermodynamically predictable, a sequence of chemically distinct sediments is laid down as reductants are depleted and oxidants are generated by multiple kinds of photosynthesis. Thermodynamically predictable, as soon as geologic activity resupplies the stronger reductants to the water, the competitive advantage goes back to the photosynthetic community that can use the strongest among them. Because photosynthesis evolved as a way to use intracellular photooxidation as a way to exploit energy rich reductants acquired from the environment. And it really comes down to thermodynamics in a way that is mathematically predictable, to see why we should EXPECT banded iron formations to have fossilized from the sequence of sediment layers from different photosynthetic communities, in a predictable sequence. |
| RE: Terraforming with Applied Biogeochemistry - Find Us on FACEBOOK24-04-2025 09:51 | |
| sealover★★★★☆ (1818) |
Terraforming with Applied Biogeochemistry - Find Us on FACEBOOK Short scientific essays about the history of the first 2000 million years of life, and how it models the payload we would need to send to a distant, lifeless planet comparable to the Earth, 4000 million years ago. In the Facebook "Speculative Evolution Enthusiasts" group, open to the "public", I have posted multiple essays on the theme of this thread. Only better. Anything new will be posted on Facebook, rather than climate-debate.com Banded Iron Formations - A thermodynamically predictable sequence of layers This website, climate-debate.com, it the first place that this theory is "published". In one sentence: Banded iron formations consist of a thermodynamically predictable sequence of layers generated by multiple photosynthetic communities using multiple reductants from the environment, and generating multiple oxidants. Oxygenic photosynthesis gets ALL the attention. It's the one form of photosynthesis that doesn't require any energy yielding reductants (H2, H2S, As[III], Fe[II], NO2-) from the environment. The Great Oxidation was just the last step in the sequence. Thermodynamically predictable, natural selection will favor the photosynthetic community that can use the strongest reductant available in the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, the limited supply of that strongest reductant will be depleted over time, in part because photosynthesis itself is selectively consuming it and removing it from the water. Thermodynamically predictable, once that strongest available reductant is depleted, the competitive advantage goes to the photosynthetic community that can use the NEXT strongest reductant available from the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, that NEXT strongest reductant will be selectively depleted from the water, as photosynthesis itself consumes that reductant. Thermodynamically predictable, the oxidized waste products of photosynthesis act as terminal electron acceptors of varying strength, which can be used by other organisms to oxidize other reductants in the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, each successive photosynthetic community consumes a WEAKER reductant, and produces a STRONGER oxidant, than the community it replaced. Thermodynamically predictable, a sequence of chemically distinct sediments is laid down as reductants are depleted and oxidants are generated by multiple kinds of photosynthesis. Thermodynamically predictable, as soon as geologic activity resupplies the stronger reductants to the water, the competitive advantage goes back to the photosynthetic community that can use the strongest among them. Because photosynthesis evolved as a way to use intracellular photooxidation as a way to exploit energy rich reductants acquired from the environment. And it really comes down to thermodynamics in a way that is mathematically predictable, to see why we should EXPECT banded iron formations to have fossilized from the sequence of sediment layers from different photosynthetic communities, in a predictable sequence. |
| 02-05-2025 00:50 | |
| sealover★★★★☆ (1818) |
Terraforming with Applied Biogeochemistry - Find Us on FACEBOOK Short scientific essays about the history of the first 2000 million years of life, and how it models the payload we would need to send to a distant, lifeless planet comparable to the Earth, 4000 million years ago. In the Facebook "Speculative Evolution Enthusiasts" group, open to the "public", I have posted multiple essays on the theme of this thread. Only better. Anything new will be posted on Facebook, rather than climate-debate.com Banded Iron Formations - A thermodynamically predictable sequence of layers This website, climate-debate.com, it the first place that this theory is "published". In one sentence: Banded iron formations consist of a thermodynamically predictable sequence of layers generated by multiple photosynthetic communities using multiple reductants from the environment, and generating multiple oxidants. Oxygenic photosynthesis gets ALL the attention. It's the one form of photosynthesis that doesn't require any energy yielding reductants (H2, H2S, As[III], Fe[II], NO2-) from the environment. The Great Oxidation was just the last step in the sequence. Thermodynamically predictable, natural selection will favor the photosynthetic community that can use the strongest reductant available in the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, the limited supply of that strongest reductant will be depleted over time, in part because photosynthesis itself is selectively consuming it and removing it from the water. Thermodynamically predictable, once that strongest available reductant is depleted, the competitive advantage goes to the photosynthetic community that can use the NEXT strongest reductant available from the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, that NEXT strongest reductant will be selectively depleted from the water, as photosynthesis itself consumes that reductant. Thermodynamically predictable, the oxidized waste products of photosynthesis act as terminal electron acceptors of varying strength, which can be used by other organisms to oxidize other reductants in the environment. Thermodynamically predictable, each successive photosynthetic community consumes a WEAKER reductant, and produces a STRONGER oxidant, than the community it replaced. Thermodynamically predictable, a sequence of chemically distinct sediments is laid down as reductants are depleted and oxidants are generated by multiple kinds of photosynthesis. Thermodynamically predictable, as soon as geologic activity resupplies the stronger reductants to the water, the competitive advantage goes back to the photosynthetic community that can use the strongest among them. Because photosynthesis evolved as a way to use intracellular photooxidation as a way to exploit energy rich reductants acquired from the environment. And it really comes down to thermodynamics in a way that is mathematically predictable, to see why we should EXPECT banded iron formations to have fossilized from the sequence of sediment layers from different photosynthetic communities, in a predictable sequence. |
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