Tell your old college professors to check out climate-debate.com for biogeochemistry

Spongy Iris wrote:
Evil awakens with that first orgasm, from its dormant state. This is my position.

It has a pernicious effect that slowly devours its victim.

It is rare that somebody becomes a homicidal maniac.

But IMO society will never be free of these tragedies unless that evil can be destroyed.

There are no pre cogs that will identify the Daniel Marsh types for law enforcement before they act.

Spongy Iris wrote:
Evil awakens with that first orgasm, from its dormant state. This is my position.

It has a pernicious effect that slowly devours its victim.

It is rare that somebody becomes a homicidal maniac.

But IMO society will never be free of these tragedies unless that evil can be destroyed.

There are no pre cogs that will identify the Daniel Marsh types for law enforcement before they act.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
Evil awakens with that first orgasm, from its dormant state. This is my position.

It has a pernicious effect that slowly devours its victim.

It is rare that somebody becomes a homicidal maniac.

But IMO society will never be free of these tragedies unless that evil can be destroyed.

There are no pre cogs that will identify the Daniel Marsh types for law enforcement before they act.

It is hard to believe that you spent more than a few minutes learning about the Daniel Marsh case if you don't realize how many red flags had been identified to clearly predict who wanted to become a serial killer.

Let's see, the school counselor had the principal call the police to get a psychiatric evaluation based on what Danny was telling her.

She called Danny's mom to inquire about the racoon he apparently killed with a baseball bat. Mom had been convinced that her frightened son had merely defended himself against a possibly rabid raccoon attacking him in the back yard.

Even Danny's best friend was disturbed when he grabbed a cat off the sidewalk and immediately killed it.

Everybody was a least a LITTLE creeped out by how much Danny loved to talk about different ways to murder people.

Mom finally withdrew any consent for Danny to talk to the school counselor anymore, as she had already withdrawn him from psychiatric care where they told her things she didn't want to hear about her little wannabe serial killer.

There were plenty of warning signs that had been noticed, and various interventions attempted.

It was very EASY to distinguish this sociopathic sexual sadist Daniel Marsh from all the other depressed and confused kids who usually got sent in to talk to the junior high school counselor.

That distinction was made and intervention was attempted on multiple occasions.

But with Mom protecting him from scrutiny, and with the law requiring much greater specificity of murder threats before designating him as a threat to himself or others, he was left to fester.

He had been kicked out of school in the months after the murders for bringing a knife on campus, which his intended victim snitched him out for.

It was on the basis of this knife incident, which involved police, that they called him in to come to the station and talk to the cops for what was really a murder interrogation ambush.

To be performed while they searched his home under warrant for the bloody knife and leather jacket he proudly showed his friends as trophies from his very first murders.

The first two murders in what he hoped would be a prolific career as a serial killer too smart to ever get caught.

Unless Danny had his first orgasm by the age of 10, it was something ELSE that awakened the evil in him.

Daniel Marsh was only ten years old when he became obsessed with fantasies of murdering people in grotesque fashion.

Im a BM wrote:
[quote]Spongy Iris wrote:

But with Mom protecting him from scrutiny, and with the law requiring much greater specificity of murder threats before designating him as a threat to himself or others, he was left to fester.

He had been kicked out of school in the months after the murders for bringing a knife on campus, which his intended victim snitched him out for.

It was on the basis of this knife incident, which involved police, that they called him in to come to the station and talk to the cops for what was really a murder interrogation ambush.

To be performed while they searched his home under warrant for the bloody knife and leather jacket he proudly showed his friends as trophies from his very first murders.

The first two murders in what he hoped would be a prolific career as a serial killer too smart to ever get caught.

Unless Danny had his first orgasm by the age of 10, it was something ELSE that awakened the evil in him.

Daniel Marsh was only ten years old when he became obsessed with fantasies of murdering people in grotesque fashion.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
[quote]Spongy Iris wrote:

But with Mom protecting him from scrutiny, and with the law requiring much greater specificity of murder threats before designating him as a threat to himself or others, he was left to fester.

He had been kicked out of school in the months after the murders for bringing a knife on campus, which his intended victim snitched him out for.

It was on the basis of this knife incident, which involved police, that they called him in to come to the station and talk to the cops for what was really a murder interrogation ambush.

To be performed while they searched his home under warrant for the bloody knife and leather jacket he proudly showed his friends as trophies from his very first murders.

The first two murders in what he hoped would be a prolific career as a serial killer too smart to ever get caught.

Unless Danny had his first orgasm by the age of 10, it was something ELSE that awakened the evil in him.

Daniel Marsh was only ten years old when he became obsessed with fantasies of murdering people in grotesque fashion.

Law enforcement couldn't touch him until they found a knife on him, got testimony from his friends, and tricked him into thinking they had dirt on him that would stick, when they really didn't.

They could not just lock him up for being a suspected homicidal maniac.

There was no way to prevent the crime in the current reality, sadly.

But if evil could be destroyed at the root level, such as I have posited, and on a societal level, I believe that would ultimately vanquish these kinds of evil acts from continuing. The spotlight on the force of evil would grow, and greater power would accumulate to the force of good.

10 years old is not unheard of for a child to have his or her first orgasm. I heard a practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine say these days girls get their first period at age 9, but it used to be more like 12.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
[quote]Spongy Iris wrote:

But with Mom protecting him from scrutiny, and with the law requiring much greater specificity of murder threats before designating him as a threat to himself or others, he was left to fester.

He had been kicked out of school in the months after the murders for bringing a knife on campus, which his intended victim snitched him out for.

It was on the basis of this knife incident, which involved police, that they called him in to come to the station and talk to the cops for what was really a murder interrogation ambush.

To be performed while they searched his home under warrant for the bloody knife and leather jacket he proudly showed his friends as trophies from his very first murders.

The first two murders in what he hoped would be a prolific career as a serial killer too smart to ever get caught.

Unless Danny had his first orgasm by the age of 10, it was something ELSE that awakened the evil in him.

Daniel Marsh was only ten years old when he became obsessed with fantasies of murdering people in grotesque fashion.

Law enforcement couldn't touch him until they found a knife on him, got testimony from his friends, and tricked him into thinking they had dirt on him that would stick, when they really didn't.

They could not just lock him up for being a suspected homicidal maniac.

There was no way to prevent the crime in the current reality, sadly.

But if evil could be destroyed at the root level, such as I have posited, and on a societal level, I believe that would ultimately vanquish these kinds of evil acts from continuing. The spotlight on the force of evil would grow, and greater power would accumulate to the force of good.

10 years old is not unheard of for a child to have his or her first orgasm. I heard a practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine say these days girls get their first period at age 9, but it used to be more like 12.

Swan wrote:

Take your meds

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
[quote]Spongy Iris wrote:

But with Mom protecting him from scrutiny, and with the law requiring much greater specificity of murder threats before designating him as a threat to himself or others, he was left to fester.

He had been kicked out of school in the months after the murders for bringing a knife on campus, which his intended victim snitched him out for.

It was on the basis of this knife incident, which involved police, that they called him in to come to the station and talk to the cops for what was really a murder interrogation ambush.

To be performed while they searched his home under warrant for the bloody knife and leather jacket he proudly showed his friends as trophies from his very first murders.

The first two murders in what he hoped would be a prolific career as a serial killer too smart to ever get caught.

Unless Danny had his first orgasm by the age of 10, it was something ELSE that awakened the evil in him.

Daniel Marsh was only ten years old when he became obsessed with fantasies of murdering people in grotesque fashion.

Law enforcement couldn't touch him until they found a knife on him, got testimony from his friends, and tricked him into thinking they had dirt on him that would stick, when they really didn't.

They could not just lock him up for being a suspected homicidal maniac.

There was no way to prevent the crime in the current reality, sadly.

But if evil could be destroyed at the root level, such as I have posited, and on a societal level, I believe that would ultimately vanquish these kinds of evil acts from continuing. The spotlight on the force of evil would grow, and greater power would accumulate to the force of good.

10 years old is not unheard of for a child to have his or her first orgasm. I heard a practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine say these days girls get their first period at age 9, but it used to be more like 12.

It is not IMPOSSIBLE for a male to be physically mature enough at age 10 to have an orgasm, but it is very rare.

The video of Danny getting the hero medal at age 11 makes it clear that he was not one of those very rare exceptions of a male who could already have orgasms at age ten.

The Vienna Boy's Choir used to include castrati singers whose parts were severed before sexual maturation could occur.

Royalty and elites of past societies used eunuchs as servants who could be trusted not to make sexual advances on women they worked around.

The point being, there is a data base of males who could not possibly have become evil as a consequence of experiencing their first orgasm.

Do we know from history that eunuchs do not corrupt just as easily as any other male?

And just for history fun, 200 years ago the average age for girls to have their first menstrual cycle was about 17.

Mainly as a consequence of much better nutrition in modern times, girls mature MUCH more quickly now. Even WITHOUT any accelerant hormones getting into the food supply.

People in general can grow much taller with better nutrition as well.

However, the onset of menstrual cycles usually stops the growth of long bones in women's bodies.

The shortest girls in high school in the past were usually the earliest bloomers.

Better nutrition also lets girls grow their long bones more during the years before they reach sexual maturity, somewhat offsetting the stature shortening impact of earlier maturation.

So many girls for so many centuries never ONCE had an orgasm to awaken any evil in them.

Surely we have enough information about the incidence of evil among the female population to correlate with their orgasm history, or lack thereof.

Im a BM wrote:
Biogeochemisty is at the interface of biology, geology, and chemistry.
Buzzword fallacy. No such thing as 'biogeochemistry'.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
Biochemistry and geochemisty are real fields of science too.

Im a BM wrote:
To master biogeochemistry requires far more years of study than any of the three fields alone.

Im a BM wrote:
What you have at this website is a library of biogeochemistry.

Im a BM wrote:
A quiet place to study where the trolls can't get you.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
Biogeochemisty is at the interface of biology, geology, and chemistry.
Buzzword fallacy. No such thing as 'biogeochemistry'.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
Biochemistry and geochemisty are real fields of science too.

No, they aren't. Indeed, you deny theories of science.

Im a BM wrote:
To master biogeochemistry requires far more years of study than any of the three fields alone.

No such thing.

Im a BM wrote:
What you have at this website is a library of biogeochemistry.

No such thing as 'biogeochemistry'.

Im a BM wrote:
A quiet place to study where the trolls can't get you.

Buzzword fallacy. Go learn what 'troll' means.

Spongy Iris wrote:


I highly doubt castrating somebody would eliminate their ability to get off.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:


I highly doubt castrating somebody would eliminate their ability to get off.

Not would it even stop a eunuch from producing semen.

But a eunuch cannot make sperm, and that hastens death.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
Biogeochemisty is at the interface of biology, geology, and chemistry.
Buzzword fallacy. No such thing as 'biogeochemistry'.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
Biochemistry and geochemisty are real fields of science too.

No, they aren't. Indeed, you deny theories of science.

Im a BM wrote:
To master biogeochemistry requires far more years of study than any of the three fields alone.

No such thing.

Im a BM wrote:
What you have at this website is a library of biogeochemistry.

No such thing as 'biogeochemistry'.

Im a BM wrote:
A quiet place to study where the trolls can't get you.

Buzzword fallacy. Go learn what 'troll' means.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:


I highly doubt castrating somebody would eliminate their ability to get off.

Not would it even stop a eunuch from producing semen.

But a eunuch cannot make sperm, and that hastens death.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:


I highly doubt castrating somebody would eliminate their ability to get off.

Not would it even stop a eunuch from producing semen.

But a eunuch cannot make sperm, and that hastens death.

Thank you for this most enlightening contribution to the biogeochemistry thread.

These two are very committed to expressing themselves at this website.

You know, we have a lot of experience with castrating domestic animals.

I'll bet there are some accurate statistics available regarding life expectancy of castrated males, versus genetalia intacta.

Dog owners might be horrified to learn that that neutering their pet "hastens death"

Don't let me ruin the story with a reality check.

Your biogeochemistry insights are always welcome.

Following up on the inability to make sperm as something that "hastens death".

Cattle, dogs, and cats provide a large data base for life expectancy of males that have been castrated versus those that have not.

Male cattle that have been neutered, and are therefore unable to make sperm, tend to die at a MUCH younger age than bulls left with balls intact. Their lives are shortened by more than half.

Male dogs and cats that have have been neutered, and are therefore unable to make sperm, tend to have significantly LONGER lives than male dogs and cats that get to keep their testicles.

There doesn't seem to be a consistent correlation across species, although cattle seem to support the "hastens death" hypothesis.

Let's see if there might be some confounding variable... some sort of spore that can't land on the meat if you cover it from moonlight or some kind of insect vector that can't transmit malaria if the bad night air is blocked from entering.

Steer get slaughtered for their meat as soon as they are big enough. Bulls get to live on and on because we keep them alive as breeders.

Dogs and cats who do not have humans who provide them with shelter, food, and occasional medical attention are less likely to get neutered and less likely to live long and healthy lives, compared to their neutered relatives.

Im a BM wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote:Just BEGGING to get doxxed!

Wrong wording. You INSISTED on publishing your own personal information.

An image search on your continuum graphic, as you demanded, reveals your name, Robert R. Northup, which you can see on the image. (Time: 14 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Biogeochemist" basically reveals that you live in Oakland. (Time: 17 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Oakland address" lists 4551 Fairbairn Ave, Oakland, CA without having to even click on any links. (Time: 6 seconds)

Google maps immediately comes up with THIS, indicating that you have a nice silver Lexus RX330, a Chevy 1500HD and a covered motorcycle. (Time: 5 seconds)

Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute complying with your demands will learn at least this much about you.

It was more than 20 years ago that I lived at 4551 Fairbairn Ave., in Oakland.

IBdaMann is politely asking for my permission to publish my phone number again, but I just refuse to answer the question.

I'm pretty sure that providing the name "Cyclical Continuum of Elemental Properties" is not the same as giving permission to publish the names of my mother, sons, nephews, address, phone number, e mail address.

Trolls are so effing SLEAZY.

sealover wrote:
Branner! If you let me moderate a sub forum, THIS will never happen to any member who posts there. If IBdaMann posts an attempt to dox another member, I would immediately remove it. Maybe I could even BAN him from that forum within the website. It is not unusual for discussion websites to have a policy of banning members for such behavior.

Im a BM wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
[quote]Im a BM wrote:Just BEGGING to get doxxed!

Wrong wording. You INSISTED on publishing your own personal information.

An image search on your continuum graphic, as you demanded, reveals your name, Robert R. Northup, which you can see on the image. (Time: 14 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Biogeochemist" basically reveals that you live in Oakland. (Time: 17 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Oakland address" lists 4551 Fairbairn Ave, Oakland, CA without having to even click on any links. (Time: 6 seconds)

Google maps immediately comes up with THIS, indicating that you have a nice silver Lexus RX330, a Chevy 1500HD and a covered motorcycle. (Time: 5 seconds)

Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute complying with your demands will learn at least this much about you.

It was more than 20 years ago that I lived at 4551 Fairbairn Ave., in Oakland.

IBdaMann is politely asking for my permission to publish my phone number again, but I just refuse to answer the question.

I'm pretty sure that providing the name "Cyclical Continuum of Elemental Properties" is not the same as giving permission to publish the names of my mother, sons, nephews, address, phone number, e mail address.

Trolls are so effing SLEAZY.

sealover wrote:

This open letter to Branner is unlikely to be seen by him, so I'll contact him by other means.

Now four years ago, my first post was in early March, 2022. By mid May I decided that it was unsafe for me to continue posting and I backed off for months. Eventually, I became confident that none of the trolls were really psycho enough to risk trying to harm me in the real world.

Branner certainly remembers. He had to delete a bunch of posts by IBdaMann where he went all out to Dox me. He had to delete the posts of other trolls that copied the doxing material. Unlike his more recent dox attempt with a picture of a house in Oakland, IBdaMann's first effort found my actual identity/location.

sealover wrote:
He published the name of every one of my relatives he could find (mother, sons, brother, etc.). He published my phone number and email address. He published an accurate map and aerial photos of a place where I was actually living.

sealover wrote:
Within an hour of our first interaction IBdaMann was accusing me of being in a "Local Communist party chapter" and a BLM/ANTIFA protest leader, and absurd political conspiracy theories in which I was a legitimate target for being such an evil enemy with an agenda to deliberately harm the world. Some of the other trolls equally absurd accusations.

sealover wrote:
My son, whose name and address were exposed, was in too vulnerable a position and was terrified by the empty threats. I vowed to just stay off the website to placate his fears.

sealover wrote:
Two months later, I decided that I REFUSE to simply LET THE TERRORISTS WIN.

Im a BM wrote:
I can use a DICTIONARY to find "biogeochemistry", something that doesn't even exist.

Im a BM wrote:
If the dictionary says "troll" means something, Into the Night assures us that dictionaries do not define terms.
Dictionaries do not define words.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
"Go learn what 'troll' means".

Im a BM wrote:
Please tell me HOW to look up the definition of the term "troll" from a source that even Into the Night accepts as credible.

Im a BM wrote:
I'll bet that same source would say there really IS "such a thing" as many terms that Into the Night has unilaterally declared to be meaningless "buzzwords".

sealover wrote:

sealover wrote:
Branner! If you let me moderate a sub forum, THIS will never happen to any member who posts there. If IBdaMann posts an attempt to dox another member, I would immediately remove it. Maybe I could even BAN him from that forum within the website. It is not unusual for discussion websites to have a policy of banning members for such behavior.

Im a BM wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
[quote]Im a BM wrote:Just BEGGING to get doxxed!

Wrong wording. You INSISTED on publishing your own personal information.

An image search on your continuum graphic, as you demanded, reveals your name, Robert R. Northup, which you can see on the image. (Time: 14 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Biogeochemist" basically reveals that you live in Oakland. (Time: 17 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Oakland address" lists 4551 Fairbairn Ave, Oakland, CA without having to even click on any links. (Time: 6 seconds)

Google maps immediately comes up with THIS, indicating that you have a nice silver Lexus RX330, a Chevy 1500HD and a covered motorcycle. (Time: 5 seconds)

Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute complying with your demands will learn at least this much about you.

It was more than 20 years ago that I lived at 4551 Fairbairn Ave., in Oakland.

IBdaMann is politely asking for my permission to publish my phone number again, but I just refuse to answer the question.

I'm pretty sure that providing the name "Cyclical Continuum of Elemental Properties" is not the same as giving permission to publish the names of my mother, sons, nephews, address, phone number, e mail address.

Trolls are so effing SLEAZY.

This open letter to Branner is unlikely to be seen by him, so I'll contact him by other means.

Now four years ago, my first post was in early March, 2022. By mid May I decided that it was unsafe for me to continue posting and I backed off for months. Eventually, I became confident that none of the trolls were really psycho enough to risk trying to harm me in the real world.

Branner certainly remembers. He had to delete a bunch of posts by IBdaMann where he went all out to Dox me. He had to delete the posts of other trolls that copied the doxing material. Unlike his more recent dox attempt with a picture of a house in Oakland, IBdaMann's first effort found my actual identity/location.

He published the name of every one of my relatives he could find (mother, sons, brother, etc.). He published my phone number and email address. He published an accurate map and aerial photos of a place where I was actually living.

Within an hour of our first interaction IBdaMann was accusing me of being in a "Local Communist party chapter" and a BLM/ANTIFA protest leader, and absurd political conspiracy theories in which I was a legitimate target for being such an evil enemy with an agenda to deliberately harm the world. Some of the other trolls equally absurd accusations.

My son, whose name and address were exposed, was in too vulnerable a position and was terrified by the empty threats. I vowed to just stay off the website to placate his fears.

Two months later, I decided that I REFUSE to simply LET THE TERRORISTS WIN.

Im a BM wrote:
"Salt water is not evolvement, Robert." - Into the Night

Nobody ever said that it was, YARP! (Yellow and Red Parrot)

But YARP offers justification for doxing that it pretty sleazy.

Tim the Plumber found out what happened when he "doxed himself" by forcing IBdaMann to try to figure out where Tim lived or worked, and posting directions to the location where he believed his rival could be found.

Someday if I have the patience, I'll find more examples of past members who doxed themselves with IBdaMann's assistance.

As YARP said in the Tim the Plumber dox post, "doxing is a real problem"

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
"Salt water is not evolvement, Robert." - Into the Night

Nobody ever said that it was, YARP! (Yellow and Red Parrot)

But YARP offers justification for doxing that it pretty sleazy.

Tim the Plumber found out what happened when he "doxed himself" by forcing IBdaMann to try to figure out where Tim lived or worked, and posting directions to the location where he believed his rival could be found.

Someday if I have the patience, I'll find more examples of past members who doxed themselves with IBdaMann's assistance.

As YARP said in the Tim the Plumber dox post, "doxing is a real problem"

Redefinition fallacy. DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

Im a BM wrote:
You are lying again, YARP. (Yellow And Red Parrot)

YARP, I double dog dare you to back up your shit and SHOW me where I ever posted ANYTHING that could be interpreted in ANY WAY as "salt water is evolvement".

It is easy enough to find the post and show where ANYTHING related to "salt water" comes up, let alone "evolvement", YARP.

YARP, you merely HALLUCINATED that you saw somewhere that I wrote...

"Salt water is evolvement. Yup. That's what it is."

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote:Just BEGGING to get doxxed!

Wrong wording. You INSISTED on publishing your own personal information.

An image search on your continuum graphic, as you demanded, reveals your name, Robert R. Northup, which you can see on the image. (Time: 14 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Biogeochemist" basically reveals that you live in Oakland. (Time: 17 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Oakland address" lists 4551 Fairbairn Ave, Oakland, CA without having to even click on any links. (Time: 6 seconds)

Google maps immediately comes up with THIS, indicating that you have a nice silver Lexus RX330, a Chevy 1500HD and a covered motorcycle. (Time: 5 seconds)

Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute complying with your demands will learn at least this much about you.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted whining...

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote:Just BEGGING to get doxxed!

Wrong wording. You INSISTED on publishing your own personal information.

An image search on your continuum graphic, as you demanded, reveals your name, Robert R. Northup, which you can see on the image. (Time: 14 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Biogeochemist" basically reveals that you live in Oakland. (Time: 17 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Oakland address" lists 4551 Fairbairn Ave, Oakland, CA without having to even click on any links. (Time: 6 seconds)

Google maps immediately comes up with THIS, indicating that you have a nice silver Lexus RX330, a Chevy 1500HD and a covered motorcycle. (Time: 5 seconds)

Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute complying with your demands will learn at least this much about you.

Im a BM wrote:
...deleted whining...

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Alligators are reptiles,

Did you just learn this? It's what several people have been trying to tell you, but apparently you are a little slow on the uptake.

Swan wrote:not amphibians.

That's what we are trying to determine. We can jump directly to the correct answer by asking if alligators are amphibious.

Are they?

Swan wrote: Using the same logic the AAV7 Amphibious Assault Vehicle is also amphibious but not an amphibian.

When discussing vehicles and not animals, yes, an amphibious vehicle is an amphibian. Don't you speak English? An amphibian is one that is amphibious. Did you never learn that subject-adjective relationship? All nouns that have the "amphibious" modifier are amphibians.

Wait, maybe English wasn't your first language and I'm being unfair. At what age did you migrate to an English speaking country?

Don't worry, we'll walk you through this.

Baby steps.

Im a BM wrote:
It was a wild word game, wasn't it?

Im a BM wrote:
Neither Into the Night nor IBdaMann were aware that the CATEGORY of "amphibian" in biology does NOT include alligators.
An alligator is an amphibian.
[quote]Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night had asserted that alligators are amphibians, and IBdaMann had his back all the way.

Im a BM wrote:
The word game had to immediately pivot to "amphibious".

Im a BM wrote:
But the "two lives" of the "amphi bios" refer to having a TWO STAGE life cycle with two different forms. Alligators don't qualify. And multiple amphibian species are not amphibious at all. Tree frogs that have no tadpole stage swimming in open water. Salamanders that never lose their gills as adults, and die if taken out of water. Non-amphibious amphibians.

Im a BM wrote:
So, it turns out even a motorized vehicle can be an amphibian in the troll's anti scientific word games.

Im a BM wrote:
To prove how correct they were, a thousand beautiful photos of alligators, seals, otters, all sorts of amphibious creatures including an Olympic swimmer and a Navy Seal as well as a fur seal. Amphibians all.

Im a BM wrote:
Because science is just a word game.

Im a BM wrote:
The ultimate authority for the definition of terms cannot be found in any book.

Im a BM wrote:
It is the SELF EVIDENT OMNISCIENCE of the SCIENCE TROLL.

Im a BM wrote:
Alligators are amphibians, or you are a scientifically illiterate moron.

Im a BM wrote:
Belated edit: Check out the post just two posts up from this one.

IBdaMann... No, it was all ME. I doxed MYSELF, using IBdaMann's membership and computer, with a photo, address, etc. of a house where I lived with my sons more than 20 years ago.

Im a BM wrote:
Branner didn't bother taking that one down. It wasn't as far over the top as his previous doxings, which was the apartment we were actually living in at the time, with my family members' names, phone numbers, email addresses..

Because I was just BEGGING to get doxed. In fact, I doxed MYSELF, didn't I?

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote:Just BEGGING to get doxxed!

Wrong wording. You INSISTED on publishing your own personal information.

An image search on your continuum graphic, as you demanded, reveals your name, Robert R. Northup, which you can see on the image. (Time: 14 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Biogeochemist" basically reveals that you live in Oakland. (Time: 17 seconds)

An internet search on "Robert R Northup Oakland address" lists 4551 Fairbairn Ave, Oakland, CA without having to even click on any links. (Time: 6 seconds)

Google maps immediately comes up with THIS, indicating that you have a nice silver Lexus RX330, a Chevy 1500HD and a covered motorcycle. (Time: 5 seconds)

Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute complying with your demands will learn at least this much about you.

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute reading your bullshit will see your SLEAZY habit of attempting to dox other members of climate-debate.com

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
By clicking on "THIS" (highlighted in blue) one can see a photo of a house where I lived with my sons in 2005.

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
THAT is how you prove you are correct about climate science!

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
Well, actually that is how a desperate TROLL attempts to drive members away.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute reading your bullshit will see your SLEAZY habit of attempting to dox other members of climate-debate.com

You doxed yourself, Robert.

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
By clicking on "THIS" (highlighted in blue) one can see a photo of a house where I lived with my sons in 2005.

And you dox yourself again.

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
THAT is how you prove you are correct about climate science!

Climate is not a science.

Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote:
Well, actually that is how a desperate TROLL attempts to drive members away.

Inversion fallacy. You can't blame your problems on anybody else, Robert.

Im a BM wrote:Anyway, anyone who is willing to spend a minute reading your bullshit will see your SLEAZY habit of attempting to dox other members of climate-debate.com

HarveyH55 wrote:

sealover wrote:
A teaching tip from Professor Paul Gersper.

Dr. Gersper was a soil scientist at UC Berkeley.

He taught the graduate seminar course about how to teach science.

He said to imagine that your target audience is comprised of above average intelligence 7th graders.

Can you make your point in a way that an above average intelligence 7th grader would understand?

He suggested that if we couldn't do that, we had failed to make our point clearly.

But an above average intelligence 7th grader knows that alligators are NOT amphibians.

You can't set the bar TOO low for the target audience.

A teaching tip from Professor Paul Gersper.

So, you failed English class, repeatedly... Your articles are written in techno-babble, where only others in that field might follow along. This isn't a university, and no biogeochemist, or even climatologists to be found. Those articles weren't written for this site, and probably no other climate site either. Just articles you scrounged/lifted, to confuse. You figure few would question them, since they make little sense, and no point at all. Doubt seriously you were an educator. lack basic communication skills.

sealover wrote: You made false accusations without having any knowledge that I failed English class, repeatedly

sealover wrote:You called my posts "articles"

sealover wrote:My posts were written in "techno-babble"?

sealover wrote:Well, someone who studied chemistry would probably not use the term "techno-babble" to describe it.

sealover wrote:I genuinely hoped to get meaningful questions for more detailed discussion.

sealover wrote: I knew my participation would infest the site with a scientifically-illiterate troll.

sealover wrote: I also knew that some members in the past were very well versed in science,

sealover wrote:I HOPED someone would want to hear one-way sermons from me

sealover wrote: discuss the details of the chemistry,

sealover wrote:... because they DO make sense, and they make points that I believe are of value and important.

sealover wrote: You can doubt that I was an educator.

sealover wrote: Since I have been doxed anyway,

sealover wrote: you can also look up the fact that I received an "Outstanding Graduate Student Instructor" award from UC Berkeley in 1990.

sealover wrote: And you can see that I was a science instructor at Sacramento City College, ...

sealover wrote: ... the most ethnically diverse college in the entire United States, in years around 2000.

sealover wrote:... and did not seriously accept the "alligators are amphibians" bullshit.

sealover wrote:My target audience would be persons with college-level scientific education and training.

sealover wrote: They would know what the terms mean.

sealover wrote: Or they would at least know how to look up what the terms mean.

sealover wrote:My target audience would not find the "gibberish" to be "incomprehensible".

sealover wrote:But then, I think you started to really notice the glaring difference between IBdaMann and I.

sealover wrote:I never insulted you by telling you that you're "gullible" for believing in geoscience reality regarding formation of fossil fuel deposits.

sealover wrote: I never accused you of being brainwashed by a wacky religion.

sealover wrote: But you didn't take long to figure out that I really am a scientist using terms that really do mean something to other scientists.

sealover wrote:to IBdaMann that HE is the one brainwashed by WACKY religion in his belief in the fairy tale of magic petroleum thanks to Fischer-Tropsche.

IBdaMann wrote:

sealover wrote: You made false accusations without having any knowledge that I failed English class, repeatedly

You demonstrated the results of having failed English class repeatedly. It's not like he didn't have any information.

sealover wrote:You called my posts "articles"

Horrors. I think he even called a sofa a "couch" once.

sealover wrote:My posts were written in "techno-babble"?

The correct term is "gibber-babble."

sealover wrote:Well, someone who studied chemistry would probably not use the term "techno-babble" to describe it.

How would you know what terms someone who studied chemistry would probably not use?

sealover wrote:I genuinely hoped to get meaningful questions for more detailed discussion.

Robertese: "meaningful" -- Translation to English: "Devoid of any questions"
Robertese: "discussion" -- Translation to English: "One-way sermon"

sealover wrote: I knew my participation would infest the site with a scientifically-illiterate troll.

You knew that there was so much to spam and so little time to do it.

sealover wrote: I also knew that some members in the past were very well versed in science,

It's funny how you equate your fantasy delusions with "knowledge".

sealover wrote:I HOPED someone would want to hear one-way sermons from me

... because of the immense joy that would bring to the world.

sealover wrote: discuss the details of the chemistry,

There is no chemistry in Global Warming, Climate Change or greenhouse effect. Those are religions/religious doctrines.

You wouldn't recognize chemistry if it were to take out a full page ad.

sealover wrote:... because they DO make sense, and they make points that I believe are of value and important.

... yet you can never offer a concrete example that isn't an immediate physics violation.

sealover wrote: You can doubt that I was an educator.

I don't think anyone doubts that you were an educator. I think everyone simply rejects the idea outright. What do you imagine that you can teach effectively?

You are scientifically illiterate. You have no idea what science is. You actively proselytize not defining terms. You think that "human activity" can defy laws of physics. You don't know the difference between the troposphere and the stratosphere. You assert that water does not evaporate, that you have visions of the ocean level rising, and that Martians are depleting the ocean's alkalinity.

I think there's a Federal law prohibiting allowing people, such as yourself, to fuqk up the minds of students, punishable of up to 10 years in prison with fines not to exceed $5,000.

sealover wrote: Since I have been doxed anyway,

You are talking "reflexively", yes?

sealover wrote: you can also look up the fact that I received an "Outstanding Graduate Student Instructor" award from UC Berkeley in 1990.

Berkeley! Say no more, say no more.

sealover wrote: And you can see that I was a science instructor at Sacramento City College, ...

We might be able to see that you had that job title.

sealover wrote: ... the most ethnically diverse college in the entire United States, in years around 2000.

Did they give you a class of students who could not speak English in order to minimize the damage?

sealover wrote:... and did not seriously accept the "alligators are amphibians" bullshit.

So you don't speak English either.

sealover wrote:My target audience would be persons with college-level scientific education and training.

Nope. That would be the last group of people you ever want reading your crap.

sealover wrote: They would know what the terms mean.

Nope. There aren't any mind-readers.

sealover wrote: Or they would at least know how to look up what the terms mean.

Too funny! Once again you insist that a dictionary is a science text.

sealover wrote:My target audience would not find the "gibberish" to be "incomprehensible".

Your gibberish is gibberish. Water does evaporate. Lipids are not hydrocarbons. The ocean's alkalinity is replenished constantly.

sealover wrote:But then, I think you started to really notice the glaring difference between IBdaMann and I.

... between IBDaMann and me.

sealover wrote:I never insulted you by telling you that you're "gullible" for believing in geoscience reality regarding formation of fossil fuel deposits.

You are stupid and gullible for believing that dead organisms somehow drill downward into the earth for perhaps a kilometer or two before reaching impermeable rock and then continuing to drill through that before reaching the other side and decomposing into a higher energy form in violation of thermodynamics.

Stupid. Gullible.

The cherry on the sundae is that you claim that all of the above occurred in seas where there weren't ever any seas. You could probably be made to believe anything by the people who do your thinking for you.

sealover wrote: I never accused you of being brainwashed by a wacky religion.

You are brainwashed by a WACKY religion.

sealover wrote: But you didn't take long to figure out that I really am a scientist using terms that really do mean something to other scientists.

Are you pretending to speak for Harvey, and are you asserting that Harvey acknowledges that you are somehow a scientist?

sealover wrote:to IBdaMann that HE is the one brainwashed by WACKY religion in his belief in the fairy tale of magic petroleum thanks to Fischer-Tropsche.

As long as you openly deny Fischer-Tropsch, you don't need me to remind you that you are a scientifically illiterate science-denier.

Im a BM wrote:You are going to have to CITE a valid SOURCE for your assertions before I'm going to believe ...

Im a BM wrote:By insisting that someone such as myself isn't really a "scientist", you have set the bar VERY high.

Im a BM wrote: It's not enough to have advanced degrees,

Im a BM wrote: widely-cited

Im a BM wrote: peer-reviewed publications,

Im a BM wrote: experience as a college science instructor,

Im a BM wrote: ... and a history of having been an invited peer reviewer for multiple prestigious scientific journals.

IBdaMann wrote:

Im a BM wrote:You are going to have to CITE a valid SOURCE for your assertions before I'm going to believe ...

Just go ahead and believe whatever you need.

Im a BM wrote:By insisting that someone such as myself isn't really a "scientist", you have set the bar VERY high.

Yeah, so very high that most moles will burrow over it.

Im a BM wrote: It's not enough to have advanced degrees,

Meaningless. It doesn't matter what credentials you purchased, or from whom.

Im a BM wrote: widely-cited

Perhaps you haven't seen how utter crap nonetheless gets reposted through echo chambers by the stupid.

Im a BM wrote: peer-reviewed publications,

I see that you still have no idea what "peer-reviewed" means. You're a moron who is too stupid to learn, yet you expect everyone to believe that you learned some science. Good luck with that.

Im a BM wrote: experience as a college science instructor,

... just not as a good instructor.

Im a BM wrote: ... and a history of having been an invited peer reviewer for multiple prestigious scientific journals.

Meaningless. Peer-review has no role in science.

Published articles are not science. I see that you still don't even know what science is.