Should climate scientist try to regrow the glacial maximum dropping sea levels

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

No, I am not in any denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer.

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Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Global warming means that the Earth is warming as it has been for 20000 or so years.

So Global Cooling means the earth is cooling as it has also done over those same 20,000 years or so.

It would appear that you could use a lesson on the term "equilibrium."


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There is no global cooling in the last 20000 years however. Sure there are fluctuations but from 20000 BC to 10000 BC most of the worlds glaciation melted, from 10000 BC to present the rate of melt has slowed however it is still happening thus all is normal

You are gullible. Someone fed you a WACKY religious dogma and you took it as thettled thienth because you apparently aren't smart enough to distinguish between actual science and WACKY cult religion.

Enjoy your faith. I'd be interested in knowing who specifically is doing your thinking for you.

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Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago, you for some reason never heard of it.

The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago,

Why should any rational adult believe that?

Swan wrote: The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

Where exactly?


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Why would anyone not believe that the glacial maximum was in place approximately 20000 years ago?

Swan wrote:
LOL are you claiming that the last ice age never happened?

Swan wrote:
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago.

Swan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Period

Swan wrote:
As for thickness I was off a bit as the largest thickness of ice was 2900 meters or 8700 feet

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/last-glacial

Swan wrote:
I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago,

Why should any rational adult believe that?

Swan wrote: The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

Where exactly?


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Why would anyone not believe that the glacial maximum was in place approximately 20000 years ago?

Why would anyone not believe that God created the heaven and the Earth?

Swan wrote:
LOL

LOL

Swan wrote:
are you claiming that the last ice age never happened?

Are you claiming that Noah's Flood never happened?

Swan wrote:
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Period

Noah's Flood occurred 4,368 years ago.

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/timeline-for-the-flood/

Swan wrote:
As for thickness I was off a bit as the largest thickness of ice was 2900 meters or 8700 feet

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/last-glacial

See above.

Swan wrote:
I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

I find it really sad that your entire life revolves around complete fiction

Swan wrote:
Actually the ice age

Swan wrote:
left quite real glacial moraines

Swan wrote:
that I ride my bicycle up and down frequently, so they are very real.

Swan wrote:
You on the other hand believe in a fictional man who lived to 950 years old and was able to capture 2 of every animal in North America from where he built his mythical ship in the mideast.

Swan wrote:
How exactly did he do that?

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Global warming means that the Earth is warming as it has been for 20000 or so years.

So Global Cooling means the earth is cooling as it has also done over those same 20,000 years or so.

It would appear that you could use a lesson on the term "equilibrium."


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There is no global cooling in the last 20000 years however. Sure there are fluctuations but from 20000 BC to 10000 BC most of the worlds glaciation melted, from 10000 BC to present the rate of melt has slowed however it is still happening thus all is normal

You are gullible. Someone fed you a WACKY religious dogma and you took it as thettled thienth because you apparently aren't smart enough to distinguish between actual science and WACKY cult religion.

Enjoy your faith. I'd be interested in knowing who specifically is doing your thinking for you.

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Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago, you for some reason never heard of it.

The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

How do you know? Were you there to measure it?

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago,

Why should any rational adult believe that?

Swan wrote: The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

Where exactly?


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Why would anyone not believe that the glacial maximum was in place approximately 20000 years ago?

For the simple reason that not everyone believes your religion.

Swan wrote:
LOL are you claiming that the last ice age never happened?

No. He is not. Neither am I. We are simply claiming that your belief here is a religion.

Swan wrote:
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago.

If you say so. Personally, I don't believe your religion either.

Swan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Period

Wikipedia is not a proof a religion is True. You cannot use it as a source here.

Swan wrote:
As for thickness I was off a bit as the largest thickness of ice was 2900 meters or 8700 feet

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/last-glacial

If you say so. You seem to find a lot of Holy Links to try to prove your religion as True. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Holy Links are not a proof.

Swan wrote:
I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

Your beliefs are your beliefs. I don't keep track of the details of everyone's religion.

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Actually the ice age

Define 'ice age'.

Swan wrote:
left quite real glacial moraines

How do you know that a glacier carved them out? How do you know any glacier even existed? How do you know such a glacier is part of something you call an 'ice age'?

Swan wrote:
that I ride my bicycle up and down frequently, so they are very real.

I'm glad that you get some exercise.

Swan wrote:
You on the other hand believe in a fictional man who lived to 950 years old and was able to capture 2 of every animal in North America from where he built his mythical ship in the mideast.

How do you know he was fiction?

Swan wrote:
How exactly did he do that?

Presumably he ate meat.

Swan wrote:
Sorry that does not explain how Noah captured 2 of every North and South American animal to put on his fictional ark from the mideast.

Swan wrote:
The fact seems to be that nothing is real in your life if it clashes with the fiction that you believe is real.

Swan wrote:
Again I live near some of these glacial terminal lines that you dispute are real
...deleted Holy Link...

Swan wrote:
The ocean has already risen over 400 feet since the end of the ice age?

Swan wrote:
Still waiting to hear how Noah gathered 2 of every North and South American animal from continents that were not even known at the time.

Swan wrote:
You avoid this because there is no answer so as a result you are existing in denial.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
How do you know? Were you there to measure it?

I have ridden up and down the highest point on the eastern seaboard south of Nova Scotia, which is a glacial moraine some 300 or so feet high.

Next?

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Your beliefs are your beliefs. I don't keep track of the details of everyone's religion.

Are you claiming that the ice age was or is a religion?

Whewy

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:
Actually the ice age

Define 'ice age'.

Swan wrote:
left quite real glacial moraines

How do you know that a glacier carved them out? How do you know any glacier even existed? How do you know such a glacier is part of something you call an 'ice age'?

Swan wrote:
that I ride my bicycle up and down frequently, so they are very real.

I'm glad that you get some exercise.

Swan wrote:
You on the other hand believe in a fictional man who lived to 950 years old and was able to capture 2 of every animal in North America from where he built his mythical ship in the mideast.

How do you know he was fiction?

Swan wrote:
How exactly did he do that?

Presumably he ate meat.

Tell us more about the 950 year old geezer

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

No, I am not in any denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer.

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So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast. Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

And if Noah gathered two of every poisonous snake, why and how?

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial

I answered your question. I have no denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer. This is your last shot before you forfeit.

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Swan wrote: Actually you never answered as to how Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast? Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

Swan wrote: The fact is that Noah did not do this because he could not have,

Swan wrote:... so the entire story is as real as an episode of Gilligan's island.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial

I answered your question. I have no denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer. This is your last shot before you forfeit.

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Actually you never answered as to how Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast? Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

The fact is that Noah did not do this because he could not have, so the entire story is as real as an episode of Gilligan's island. The really sad fact here is that a fictional 950 year old man and his fictional boaty are ruining real conversations that need to be had on a real topic.

But you believe in Noah and that you given a plausible answer as to how Noah gathered animals on undiscovered continents.

PS. Since the flood would also have decimated terrestrial plant life he also would have had to gather 2 of every tree, bush and vine. So how did Noah gather 2 redwoods and poison ivy vines

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial

I answered your question. I have no denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer. This is your last shot before you forfeit.

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Actually you never answered as to how Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast? Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

The fact is that Noah did not do this because he could not have, so the entire story is as real as an episode of Gilligan's island. The really sad fact here is that a fictional 950 year old man and his fictional boaty are ruining real conversations that need to be had on a real topic.

But you believe in Noah and that you given a plausible answer as to how Noah gathered animals on undiscovered continents.

PS. Since the flood would also have decimated terrestrial plant life he also would have had to gather 2 of every tree, bush and vine. So how did Noah gather 2 redwoods and poison ivy vines

If you had faith in God, you would be so ignorant. You have to start reading at the start of the book, otherwise you skip over all the good parts. Most over your global warming stuff comes out of Revelations anyway, almost plagiarism. Biden probably will, once he gets done cancelling Trump, and getting this pandemic under control. Our God, isn't the one that comes to this forum, posting nonsense, begging for Bitcoins. He made all the animals, and plants, he can replace them. I don't remember reading about dinosaurs in the bible, are you sure you aren't confusing it with Jurassic Park? You been nipping at Jame's jug?

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Actually you never answered as to how Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast? Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

I answered your question. One possible explanation is that God worked out all of the minutiae for Noah. There, you have an answer as to how it would be possible if it happened.

Swan wrote: The fact is that Noah did not do this because he could not have,

Are you going to demonstrate that the Christian God did not help Noah during the time period in question (as specified by gfm7175)?

Swan wrote:... so the entire story is as real as an episode of Gilligan's island.

Episodes of Giligan's Island exist and are real. Entire seasons exist.


So, I hold you in forfeit. You lose. You are a WACKO to be dismissed.



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Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Actually you never answered as to how Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast? Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

I answered your question. One possible explanation is that God worked out all of the minutiae for Noah. There, you have an answer as to how it would be possible if it happened.

Swan wrote: The fact is that Noah did not do this because he could not have,

Are you going to demonstrate that the Christian God did not help Noah during the time period in question (as specified by gfm7175)?

Swan wrote:... so the entire story is as real as an episode of Gilligan's island.

Episodes of Giligan's Island exist and are real. Entire seasons exist.


So, I hold you in forfeit. You lose. You are a WACKO to be dismissed.



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LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship? See God does not need people to do his work, when you claim that people are needed the God you believe in becomes a cripple

Yawning

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

GasGuzzler wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: Actually you never answered as to how Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast? Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

I answered your question. One possible explanation is that God worked out all of the minutiae for Noah. There, you have an answer as to how it would be possible if it happened.

Swan wrote: The fact is that Noah did not do this because he could not have,

Are you going to demonstrate that the Christian God did not help Noah during the time period in question (as specified by gfm7175)?

Swan wrote:... so the entire story is as real as an episode of Gilligan's island.

Episodes of Giligan's Island exist and are real. Entire seasons exist.


So, I hold you in forfeit. You lose. You are a WACKO to be dismissed.



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LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship? See God does not need people to do his work, when you claim that people are needed the God you believe in becomes a cripple

Yawning

Doesn't take much faith to get on a boat when the flooding starts. Takes a tiny bit more faith to build a boat for an upcoming catastrophic event that has never happened before.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.


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IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago,

Why should any rational adult believe that?

Swan wrote: The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

Where exactly?


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Why would anyone not believe that the glacial maximum was in place approximately 20000 years ago?

Why would anyone not believe that God created the heaven and the Earth?

Swan wrote:
LOL

LOL

Swan wrote:
are you claiming that the last ice age never happened?

Are you claiming that Noah's Flood never happened?

Swan wrote:
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Period

Noah's Flood occurred 4,368 years ago.

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/timeline-for-the-flood/

Swan wrote:
As for thickness I was off a bit as the largest thickness of ice was 2900 meters or 8700 feet

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/last-glacial

See above.

Swan wrote:
I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

gfm7175, this was an excellent post. Your rebuttal style clearly flew right over Swan's head.

Well done.

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gfm7175 wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Sorry kid the glacial maximum happened in the range of 20000 years ago,

Why should any rational adult believe that?

Swan wrote: The ice was 1000 to 2000 feet thick

Where exactly?


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Why would anyone not believe that the glacial maximum was in place approximately 20000 years ago?

Why would anyone not believe that God created the heaven and the Earth?

Swan wrote:
LOL

LOL

Swan wrote:
are you claiming that the last ice age never happened?

Are you claiming that Noah's Flood never happened?

Swan wrote:
The Last Glacial Period (LGP) occurred from the end of the Eemian to the end of the Younger Dryas, encompassing the period c. 115,000 – c. 11,700 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Period

Noah's Flood occurred 4,368 years ago.

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/timeline-for-the-flood/

Swan wrote:
As for thickness I was off a bit as the largest thickness of ice was 2900 meters or 8700 feet

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/last-glacial

See above.

Swan wrote:
I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

I find it really sad that people like you do not know these facts.

gfm7175, this was an excellent post. Your rebuttal style clearly flew right over Swan's head.

Well done.

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I'll take an ITN style *humble bow* here...

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:The ocean has already risen over 400 feet since the end of the ice age?

What I'm reading is that you have no rational basis whatsoever for your WACKY beliefs and that the ocean has not risen at all as far as you can show.

Got it.

So you are a loon who believes that his fabricated delusions are "what we know."

Dismissed.

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So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

Swan wrote:
Were there really dinosaurs on the ark too?

Swan wrote:

duncan61 wrote:
Stick it to em Swan

I am trying not to be rude, but there is more to reality that a 950 year old fake man

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:The ocean has already risen over 400 feet since the end of the ice age?

What I'm reading is that you have no rational basis whatsoever for your WACKY beliefs and that the ocean has not risen at all as far as you can show.

Got it.

So you are a loon who believes that his fabricated delusions are "what we know."

Dismissed.

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So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

RQAA (repetitive question already answered). IBdaMann already offered up a possible explanation for how Noah did it, but i will reiterate. God orchestrated the minutia in order to assist Noah in performing God's will.

Swan wrote:
Were there really dinosaurs on the ark too?

Sure. Sounds good to me.


It appears as if I have riled up a Church of No God member in my attempt to shine some light on your religious fundamentalism regarding "20,000 years ago". I would also be willing to bet that you, as a Church of No God member, do not realize that you are every bit as much of a theist as I am... except that you are also a fundamentalist while I am not...

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.

What religion am I preaching?

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.

What religion am I preaching?

Some WACKY Global Warming sect that believes the earth somehow spontaneously increases in temperature and which speculates heavily about the past but preaches said speculation as gospel truth.

Your beliefs are as WACKY as any cults.

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Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

No, I am not in any denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer.

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So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast. Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

And if Noah gathered two of every poisonous snake, why and how?

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

No, I am not in any denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer.

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So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast. Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

And if Noah gathered two of every poisonous snake, why and how?

RQAA.

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.


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What religion am I preaching?

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.


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What religion am I preaching?

RQAA.

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
It appears as if I have riled up a Church of No God member in my attempt to shine some light on your religious fundamentalism regarding "20,000 years ago". I would also be willing to bet that you, as a Church of No God member, do not realize that you are every bit as much of a theist as I am... except that you are also a fundamentalist while I am not...

LOL why did an all knowing all powerful God need Noah for in the first place?

I guess God forgot how to build stuff.

Next

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.

What religion am I preaching?

Some WACKY Global Warming sect that believes the earth somehow spontaneously increases in temperature and which speculates heavily about the past but preaches said speculation as gospel truth.

Your beliefs are as WACKY as any cults.

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LOL this just shows how clueless that you are because I do not believe in AGW.

Yawn

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: LOL, are you saying that God was not powerful enough to build his own ship?

I make/made no statements about the Christian God. I am an atheist.

You, on the other hand, are a preacher of a WACKY religion.

What religion am I preaching?

Some WACKY Global Warming sect that believes the earth somehow spontaneously increases in temperature and which speculates heavily about the past but preaches said speculation as gospel truth.

Your beliefs are as WACKY as any cults.

LOL this just shows how clueless that you are because I do not believe in AGW.

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote: So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast, merely because this question clashes with your chosen reality.

No, I am not in any denial on this matter.

So are you insisting that it is not possible for the ocean to rise 15 cubits (27 feet) by the end of the century and for extreme weather to pose an existential threat to humans?

I'm waiting for your answer.

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So you are still in denial that Noah could not have gathered two of every North and South American animal from the Mideast. Again were there really dinosaurs on the ark?

And if Noah gathered two of every poisonous snake, why and how?

RQAA.

I Googled RQAA and it came back to you saying it here.

Means nothing except to you