Rob Reiner otherwise known as the meathead was stabbed to death by meathead junior

Swan wrote:
God watching the Hollywood liberal scum eat themselves is wonderful.

Archie was right, about everything

Im a BM wrote:

Swan wrote:
God watching the Hollywood liberal scum eat themselves is wonderful.

Archie was right, about everything

Those Hollywood liberal scum...

Trump always knows the PERFECT thing to say in these situations.

As he walked toward the helicopter, he was asked for his very first comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Two complete sentences about it, more or less.

Then the obviously happy president went on and on about his AWESOME new BALLROOM! Big smile, because its going to be so great. Then he got on the chopper.

Jimmy Kimmel caught a lot of crap for correctly noting that this is how a four year old mourns the death of a goldfish.

Trump was even MORE thoughtful and tactful in his comments about Rob Reiner.

Obviously, he brought on his own murder by spewing out so much hateful Trump Derangement Syndrome stuff. Trump's analysis makes it clear that one invites murder by spewing out so much hateful speech in such a widely publicized manner.

Damn shame what they did to Charlie Kirk.

Some gold fish are more deserving of respect than others.

Swan wrote:
God watching the Hollywood liberal scum eat themselves is wonderful.

Archie was right, about everything

Im a BM wrote:

Swan wrote:
God watching the Hollywood liberal scum eat themselves is wonderful.

Archie was right, about everything

Those Hollywood liberal scum...

Trump always knows the PERFECT thing to say in these situations.

As he walked toward the helicopter, he was asked for his very first comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Two complete sentences about it, more or less.

Then the obviously happy president went on and on about his AWESOME new BALLROOM! Big smile, because its going to be so great. Then he got on the chopper.

Jimmy Kimmel caught a lot of crap for correctly noting that this is how a four year old mourns the death of a goldfish.

Trump was even MORE thoughtful and tactful in his comments about Rob Reiner.

Obviously, he brought on his own murder by spewing out so much hateful Trump Derangement Syndrome stuff. Trump's analysis makes it clear that one invites murder by spewing out so much hateful speech in such a widely publicized manner.

Damn shame what they did to Charlie Kirk.

Some gold fish are more deserving of respect than others, apparently.

What Trump said, as our nation's leader, regarding the death of a liberal nemesis was reprehensible.

I wonder if Swan or Spongy Iris got a chance to see Trump's comments.

Am I the only one commenting on this here to call out this man as a disgusting person and dangerous president for invoking "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a motive for murder in this high profile tragedy?

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Swan wrote:
God watching the Hollywood liberal scum eat themselves is wonderful.

Archie was right, about everything

Those Hollywood liberal scum...

Trump always knows the PERFECT thing to say in these situations.

As he walked toward the helicopter, he was asked for his very first comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Two complete sentences about it, more or less.

Then the obviously happy president went on and on about his AWESOME new BALLROOM! Big smile, because its going to be so great. Then he got on the chopper.

Jimmy Kimmel caught a lot of crap for correctly noting that this is how a four year old mourns the death of a goldfish.

Trump was even MORE thoughtful and tactful in his comments about Rob Reiner.

Obviously, he brought on his own murder by spewing out so much hateful Trump Derangement Syndrome stuff. Trump's analysis makes it clear that one invites murder by spewing out so much hateful speech in such a widely publicized manner.

Damn shame what they did to Charlie Kirk.

Some gold fish are more deserving of respect than others, apparently.

What Trump said, as our nation's leader, regarding the death of a liberal nemesis was reprehensible.

I wonder if Swan or Spongy Iris got a chance to see Trump's comments.

Am I the only one commenting on this here to call out this man as a disgusting person and dangerous president for invoking "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a motive for murder in this high profile tragedy?

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

Im a BM wrote:

Swan wrote:
God watching the Hollywood liberal scum eat themselves is wonderful.

Archie was right, about everything

Those Hollywood liberal scum...

Trump always knows the PERFECT thing to say in these situations.

As he walked toward the helicopter, he was asked for his very first comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Two complete sentences about it, more or less.

Then the obviously happy president went on and on about his AWESOME new BALLROOM! Big smile, because its going to be so great. Then he got on the chopper.

Jimmy Kimmel caught a lot of crap for correctly noting that this is how a four year old mourns the death of a goldfish.

Trump was even MORE thoughtful and tactful in his comments about Rob Reiner.

Obviously, he brought on his own murder by spewing out so much hateful Trump Derangement Syndrome stuff. Trump's analysis makes it clear that one invites murder by spewing out so much hateful speech in such a widely publicized manner.

Damn shame what they did to Charlie Kirk.

Some gold fish are more deserving of respect than others, apparently.

What Trump said, as our nation's leader, regarding the death of a liberal nemesis was reprehensible.

I wonder if Swan or Spongy Iris got a chance to see Trump's comments.

Am I the only one commenting on this here to call out this man as a disgusting person and dangerous president for invoking "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a motive for murder in this high profile tragedy?

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

He is a democrat, raised by democrats, and screwed up as well.
I suspect he did it to try to claim an inheritance early.

Now he has thrown it all away.

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

He is a democrat, raised by democrats, and screwed up as well.
I suspect he did it to try to claim an inheritance early.

Now he has thrown it all away.

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

He is a democrat, raised by democrats, and screwed up as well.
I suspect he did it to try to claim an inheritance early.

Now he has thrown it all away.

Did you see the INEXCUSABLE comments by TRUMP about this?

Other people certainly noticed.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

He is a democrat, raised by democrats, and screwed up as well.
I suspect he did it to try to claim an inheritance early.

Now he has thrown it all away.

Did you see the INEXCUSABLE comments by TRUMP about this?

Other people certainly noticed.

Which 'inexcusable comment', Spongy? It's often hard to tell with the Church of Hate which 'inexcusable comment' you are talking about. After all, EVERYTHING Trump says, writes, or wears as 'ineexcusable'.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

He is a democrat, raised by democrats, and screwed up as well.
I suspect he did it to try to claim an inheritance early.

Now he has thrown it all away.

Did you see the INEXCUSABLE comments by TRUMP about this?

Other people certainly noticed.

Which 'inexcusable comment', Spongy? It's often hard to tell with the Church of Hate which 'inexcusable comment' you are talking about. After all, EVERYTHING Trump says, writes, or wears as 'ineexcusable'.

Just FYI, you replied to Im a BM's remark but called him, Spongy. Are you getting confused?

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Not sure if Nick was a Trump supporter who murdered his dad for being a Trump basher.

But I did read a report that Nick wound up choosing to be homeless rather than yield to his father Rob's demands to enter rehab.

He is a democrat, raised by democrats, and screwed up as well.
I suspect he did it to try to claim an inheritance early.

Now he has thrown it all away.

Did you see the INEXCUSABLE comments by TRUMP about this?

Other people certainly noticed.

Which 'inexcusable comment', Spongy? It's often hard to tell with the Church of Hate which 'inexcusable comment' you are talking about. After all, EVERYTHING Trump says, writes, or wears as 'ineexcusable'.

Just FYI, you replied to Im a BM's remark but called him, Spongy. Are you getting confused?

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

Im a BM wrote:
It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Im a BM wrote:
Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Im a BM wrote:
Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

Im a BM wrote:
One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Im a BM wrote:
Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Well I reread his post. And like I said, I don't feel like there is a TDS angle.

He did say the Reiners were killed because of the anger Rob caused others.

I suppose just that line is similar to me speculating Rob and Michele drove their son, Nick, to hate his parents.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Well I reread his post. And like I said, I don't feel like there is a TDS angle.

He did say the Reiners were killed because of the anger Rob caused others.

I suppose just that line is similar to me speculating Rob and Michele drove their son, Nick, to hate his parents.

I was thinking you might have noticed that Trump's response was morally repugnant.

Some people who recognize this will not express it out of fear of retaliation.

The closest I ever came to actually being murdered (that I know of) wasn't for passion, fun, politics, or profit.

The individual was having a psychotic episode and believed that my legs had become cobras which were about to fatally strike him. Holding a sledge hammer over me as I lay in bed, in his troubled mind it was self defense and I wasn't even human. He would have had a very likely successful defense of "not guilty by reason of insanity" if he had completed the act.

I can imagine multiple scenarios in which the deceased couple's son was not fully conscious of what he was actually doing, or even aware of who he was killing. His attorney may very well invoke that he was in a "dissociative" state.

It might have been premeditated for financial gain, but that proves a different kind of insanity. Any lawyer could have warned him there was no way to collect.

The detail I will be most intrigued to learn is if he came in from his guest house in the back after the couple had fallen asleep. Did he kill them in their bed?

Did they all return from the party and continue their heated discussion at the couple's home, during which one thing leads to another?

My personal guess is that no matter how well they thought they knew him, they did not predict he was capable of doing such a thing. I doubt we will learn he thought he was thinking clearly about a strategy for financial gain.

Blood tests might even show he was on something that made him see cobras on his parents legs. Underlying mental illness is almost certainly a factor.

Meanwhile, our morally repugnant Commander in Chief really stepped in it on this one.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Well I reread his post. And like I said, I don't feel like there is a TDS angle.

He did say the Reiners were killed because of the anger Rob caused others.

I suppose just that line is similar to me speculating Rob and Michele drove their son, Nick, to hate his parents.

I was thinking you might have noticed that Trump's response was morally repugnant.

Some people who recognize this will not express it out of fear of retaliation.

The closest I ever came to actually being murdered (that I know of) wasn't for passion, fun, politics, or profit.

The individual was having a psychotic episode and believed that my legs had become cobras which were about to fatally strike him. Holding a sledge hammer over me as I lay in bed, in his troubled mind it was self defense and I wasn't even human. He would have had a very likely successful defense of "not guilty by reason of insanity" if he had completed the act.

I can imagine multiple scenarios in which the deceased couple's son was not fully conscious of what he was actually doing, or even aware of who he was killing. His attorney may very well invoke that he was in a "dissociative" state.

It might have been premeditated for financial gain, but that proves a different kind of insanity. Any lawyer could have warned him there was no way to collect.

The detail I will be most intrigued to learn is if he came in from his guest house in the back after the couple had fallen asleep. Did he kill them in their bed?

Did they all return from the party and continue their heated discussion at the couple's home, during which one thing leads to another?

My personal guess is that no matter how well they thought they knew him, they did not predict he was capable of doing such a thing. I doubt we will learn he thought he was thinking clearly about a strategy for financial gain.

Blood tests might even show he was on something that made him see cobras on his parents legs. Underlying mental illness is almost certainly a factor.

Meanwhile, our morally repugnant Commander in Chief really stepped in it on this one.

I thought I would check out a Nick Reiner video, just to get some feels about the dude...

https://youtu.be/hMX8tEEGscY?si=Vj0pD_KeEZTSl5k2

I mean, if his parents gave him an ultimatum he didn't like, he should have told them to eff off, in whatever manner he pleased, then tried to end his dependency on their money, rejecting it.

I wound up making a similar choice, to my shoulda coulda woulda advice, when I was close to Nick's age. Lucky for me I already had a lot of experience running away from home starting around 19, usually finding work pretty quickly as an administrative professional. My parents died several years later, after they provoked their ultimatum, when I was 36 and 40, of natural causes, cancers and savaged bowels, apparently giving me ever so gradual greater freedoms from their pernicious influences.

Trump is probably right that Rob drove Nick into a murderous rage.

He may even be right Rob's TDS turned Rob into a much more unbearable person to be around. A sad commentary about humanity if you ask me.

Trump gloating about Reiner's death is hardly the most morally repugnant assertion or action Trump has put forth so far.

He has already murdered dozens of Venezuelan drug dealers. So the Reiner post is no hill to die on, because Trump didn't murder the Reiners.

As far as morally repugnant goes, his actions against Venezuelan drug dealers make him about as repugnant as Luigi Mangione, multiplied by the number of murders he has committed.

It is not like he could get away with shooting drug dealers in Central Park. But it is ok to shoot drug dealers on the seas?

Spongy Iris wrote:
I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

Spongy Iris wrote:
I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Im a BM wrote:
Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

Im a BM wrote:
He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Im a BM wrote:
Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

Im a BM wrote:
ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Well I reread his post. And like I said, I don't feel like there is a TDS angle.

He did say the Reiners were killed because of the anger Rob caused others.

I suppose just that line is similar to me speculating Rob and Michele drove their son, Nick, to hate his parents.

I was thinking you might have noticed that Trump's response was morally repugnant.

Some people who recognize this will not express it out of fear of retaliation.

The closest I ever came to actually being murdered (that I know of) wasn't for passion, fun, politics, or profit.

The individual was having a psychotic episode and believed that my legs had become cobras which were about to fatally strike him. Holding a sledge hammer over me as I lay in bed, in his troubled mind it was self defense and I wasn't even human. He would have had a very likely successful defense of "not guilty by reason of insanity" if he had completed the act.

I can imagine multiple scenarios in which the deceased couple's son was not fully conscious of what he was actually doing, or even aware of who he was killing. His attorney may very well invoke that he was in a "dissociative" state.

It might have been premeditated for financial gain, but that proves a different kind of insanity. Any lawyer could have warned him there was no way to collect.

The detail I will be most intrigued to learn is if he came in from his guest house in the back after the couple had fallen asleep. Did he kill them in their bed?

Did they all return from the party and continue their heated discussion at the couple's home, during which one thing leads to another?

My personal guess is that no matter how well they thought they knew him, they did not predict he was capable of doing such a thing. I doubt we will learn he thought he was thinking clearly about a strategy for financial gain.

Blood tests might even show he was on something that made him see cobras on his parents legs. Underlying mental illness is almost certainly a factor.

Meanwhile, our morally repugnant Commander in Chief really stepped in it on this one.

I thought I would check out a Nick Reiner video, just to get some feels about the dude...

https://youtu.be/hMX8tEEGscY?si=Vj0pD_KeEZTSl5k2

I mean, if his parents gave him an ultimatum he didn't like, he should have told them to eff off, in whatever manner he pleased, then tried to end his dependency on their money, rejecting it.

I wound up making a similar choice, to my shoulda coulda woulda advice, when I was close to Nick's age. Lucky for me I already had a lot of experience running away from home starting around 19, usually finding work pretty quickly as an administrative professional. My parents died several years later, after they provoked their ultimatum, when I was 36 and 40, of natural causes, cancers and savaged bowels, apparently giving me ever so gradual greater freedoms from their pernicious influences.

Trump is probably right that Rob drove Nick into a murderous rage.

He may even be right Rob's TDS turned Rob into a much more unbearable person to be around. A sad commentary about humanity if you ask me.

Trump gloating about Reiner's death is hardly the most morally repugnant assertion or action Trump has put forth so far.

He has already murdered dozens of Venezuelan drug dealers. So the Reiner post is no hill to die on, because Trump didn't murder the Reiners.

As far as morally repugnant goes, his actions against Venezuelan drug dealers make him about as repugnant as Luigi Mangione, multiplied by the number of murders he has committed.

It is not like he could get away with shooting drug dealers in Central Park. But it is ok to shoot drug dealers on the seas?

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Well I reread his post. And like I said, I don't feel like there is a TDS angle.

He did say the Reiners were killed because of the anger Rob caused others.

I suppose just that line is similar to me speculating Rob and Michele drove their son, Nick, to hate his parents.

I was thinking you might have noticed that Trump's response was morally repugnant.

Some people who recognize this will not express it out of fear of retaliation.

The closest I ever came to actually being murdered (that I know of) wasn't for passion, fun, politics, or profit.

The individual was having a psychotic episode and believed that my legs had become cobras which were about to fatally strike him. Holding a sledge hammer over me as I lay in bed, in his troubled mind it was self defense and I wasn't even human. He would have had a very likely successful defense of "not guilty by reason of insanity" if he had completed the act.

I can imagine multiple scenarios in which the deceased couple's son was not fully conscious of what he was actually doing, or even aware of who he was killing. His attorney may very well invoke that he was in a "dissociative" state.

It might have been premeditated for financial gain, but that proves a different kind of insanity. Any lawyer could have warned him there was no way to collect.

The detail I will be most intrigued to learn is if he came in from his guest house in the back after the couple had fallen asleep. Did he kill them in their bed?

Did they all return from the party and continue their heated discussion at the couple's home, during which one thing leads to another?

My personal guess is that no matter how well they thought they knew him, they did not predict he was capable of doing such a thing. I doubt we will learn he thought he was thinking clearly about a strategy for financial gain.

Blood tests might even show he was on something that made him see cobras on his parents legs. Underlying mental illness is almost certainly a factor.

Meanwhile, our morally repugnant Commander in Chief really stepped in it on this one.

I thought I would check out a Nick Reiner video, just to get some feels about the dude...

https://youtu.be/hMX8tEEGscY?si=Vj0pD_KeEZTSl5k2

I mean, if his parents gave him an ultimatum he didn't like, he should have told them to eff off, in whatever manner he pleased, then tried to end his dependency on their money, rejecting it.

I wound up making a similar choice, to my shoulda coulda woulda advice, when I was close to Nick's age. Lucky for me I already had a lot of experience running away from home starting around 19, usually finding work pretty quickly as an administrative professional. My parents died several years later, after they provoked their ultimatum, when I was 36 and 40, of natural causes, cancers and savaged bowels, apparently giving me ever so gradual greater freedoms from their pernicious influences.

Trump is probably right that Rob drove Nick into a murderous rage.

He may even be right Rob's TDS turned Rob into a much more unbearable person to be around. A sad commentary about humanity if you ask me.

Trump gloating about Reiner's death is hardly the most morally repugnant assertion or action Trump has put forth so far.

He has already murdered dozens of Venezuelan drug dealers. So the Reiner post is no hill to die on, because Trump didn't murder the Reiners.

As far as morally repugnant goes, his actions against Venezuelan drug dealers make him about as repugnant as Luigi Mangione, multiplied by the number of murders he has committed.

It is not like he could get away with shooting drug dealers in Central Park. But it is ok to shoot drug dealers on the seas?

Into the Night wrote:

It is ok to shoot drug smugglers on the seas, even with a missile.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

It is ok to shoot drug smugglers on the seas, even with a missile.

Then by your logic, Luigi Mangione should be exonerated.

United Healthcare is just a scam, everybody pays into it like a lottery, and the monthly bills skimmed from everybody's pay check is what makes drug prices seem cheap. Loads of people become dependent on pharmaceutical drugs. They never make anybody healthier. And a lot of them are opiates.

Im a BM wrote:
Watch out for high gas prices if the tanker blockade doesn't turn out to be another TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) fantasy threat.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

The big old elephant in the room are the INEXCUSABLE comments Trump published and later doubled down on, regarding the double homicide.

It strikes me as odd that someone would have so much to say about this man who recently died, yet appears unfazed by the president's comments on him.

Perhaps Spongy Iris literally cannot see the elephant in the room.

Trump's extremely inappropriate response is probably the single biggest news story associated with the actor/director/activist's death in recent days.

One would have to make a conscious effort to avoid seeing it, if one is digging for info to share and post links to.

Spongy Iris, are you willing to share any opinions on how Trump stepped into this thing?

Swan's comment about "the Hollywood liberal scum eating themselves.." is remarkably similar, in spirit, to what Trump had to say about it.

Some claim that this is helping to "split MAGA", as some dodge questions about it while other MAGA acolytes openly repudiate Donald Trump for this one.

I don't feel like there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome angle to this tragedy.

I am interested in what drove Nick Reiner to murder his parents, if in fact he is guilty. The evidence seems to be pointing pretty strongly at Nick Reiner's guilt.

ITN seems to think it was financially motivated, and it seems, so do the prosecutors pushing for first degree murder charges.

I'm more interested in the psychology of Nick Reiner. My first assumption was that Nick was the black sheep in his family, and he built up a lot of hatred from it. There was also the point I read that he was forced into homelessness for refusing his parents demands to enter rehab. I wonder if he felt a lot of condescending judgment, masked as virtue, but ultimately hypocritical.

I can only interpret this reply as saying, "No", you are NOT willing to share your opinion about how Trump stepped into this thing.

Trump did a lot more than inject "TDS" into the discussion as a motive.

He is being widely repudiated for his response, and it is getting a LOT of attention in the news.

Trump's most loyal apologists are struggling with this one.

ITN knows that Trump was right, whatever he might have said about anything.

Well I reread his post. And like I said, I don't feel like there is a TDS angle.

He did say the Reiners were killed because of the anger Rob caused others.

I suppose just that line is similar to me speculating Rob and Michele drove their son, Nick, to hate his parents.

I was thinking you might have noticed that Trump's response was morally repugnant.

Some people who recognize this will not express it out of fear of retaliation.

The closest I ever came to actually being murdered (that I know of) wasn't for passion, fun, politics, or profit.

The individual was having a psychotic episode and believed that my legs had become cobras which were about to fatally strike him. Holding a sledge hammer over me as I lay in bed, in his troubled mind it was self defense and I wasn't even human. He would have had a very likely successful defense of "not guilty by reason of insanity" if he had completed the act.

I can imagine multiple scenarios in which the deceased couple's son was not fully conscious of what he was actually doing, or even aware of who he was killing. His attorney may very well invoke that he was in a "dissociative" state.

It might have been premeditated for financial gain, but that proves a different kind of insanity. Any lawyer could have warned him there was no way to collect.

The detail I will be most intrigued to learn is if he came in from his guest house in the back after the couple had fallen asleep. Did he kill them in their bed?

Did they all return from the party and continue their heated discussion at the couple's home, during which one thing leads to another?

My personal guess is that no matter how well they thought they knew him, they did not predict he was capable of doing such a thing. I doubt we will learn he thought he was thinking clearly about a strategy for financial gain.

Blood tests might even show he was on something that made him see cobras on his parents legs. Underlying mental illness is almost certainly a factor.

Meanwhile, our morally repugnant Commander in Chief really stepped in it on this one.

I thought I would check out a Nick Reiner video, just to get some feels about the dude...

https://youtu.be/hMX8tEEGscY?si=Vj0pD_KeEZTSl5k2

I mean, if his parents gave him an ultimatum he didn't like, he should have told them to eff off, in whatever manner he pleased, then tried to end his dependency on their money, rejecting it.

I wound up making a similar choice, to my shoulda coulda woulda advice, when I was close to Nick's age. Lucky for me I already had a lot of experience running away from home starting around 19, usually finding work pretty quickly as an administrative professional. My parents died several years later, after they provoked their ultimatum, when I was 36 and 40, of natural causes, cancers and savaged bowels, apparently giving me ever so gradual greater freedoms from their pernicious influences.

Trump is probably right that Rob drove Nick into a murderous rage.

He may even be right Rob's TDS turned Rob into a much more unbearable person to be around. A sad commentary about humanity if you ask me.

Trump gloating about Reiner's death is hardly the most morally repugnant assertion or action Trump has put forth so far.

He has already murdered dozens of Venezuelan drug dealers. So the Reiner post is no hill to die on, because Trump didn't murder the Reiners.

As far as morally repugnant goes, his actions against Venezuelan drug dealers make him about as repugnant as Luigi Mangione, multiplied by the number of murders he has committed.

It is not like he could get away with shooting drug dealers in Central Park. But it is ok to shoot drug dealers on the seas?

In the mind-numbing cacophony of multiple daily Trump outrages, a major act of war against Venezuela is just one of many noises of the day.

While the oil tanker connections to terrorist drug dealers may not be obvious, the impact of Trump's actions on gas prices will be noticed in a matter of weeks.

Eggs and gasoline were the two items where prices actually came down in a year.

Hopefully, they will be unable to bait the Venezuelan military into an engagement.

Some of those tankers belong to people who Trump does not hate.

They would be easy prey if those fast little boats we keep blowing up really DO belong to some kind of terrorists wishing to wage war on the US.

It will be hard enough protecting our warships from cheap attacks.

Protecting all the friendly flagged tankers as we try to completely control the flow of Venezuelan petroleum will be quite a challenge.

Gas prices will soon show predictable results.

As a president unilaterally gets us into a war with a very vague enemy.

I thought that selling a war against Venezuela would be the main topic of Trump's address tonight.

He wasn't pitching that one at all. But he was quite loud and angry.

Im a BM wrote:

Speaking of opiates, and I must correct my previous erroneous assertion, they are the THIRD most deadly addictive substance killing Americans (80,000 per year), after tobacco (480,000 killed per year), and alcohol (180,000 per year).

Back in the good old days when alcohol was illegal for about a decade, they could have used the US Navy and US Army Air Corps to blow away boats and trucks bringing in alcohol to the US. Heck, they could have done so strictly at our borders, rather than on high seas thousands of miles away. It would not have been "okay".

"It's okay to shoot drug smugglers on the seas.."- Into the Night

The "Opium wars" were a real thing that happened a century and a half ago.

The British military went to China to defend Britain's merchants' right to import opium into China, despite the objections of the Chinese government. Chinese soldiers were killed to protect the free trade rights of British drug dealers.

Might makes right.

Who is going to STOP the US from blowing up anyone we feel like blowing up?

Not the castrated Congress!

They are much too afraid of Trump to assert any power over his whims.

Problem is, even TRUMP doesn't know what he's actually going to do.

Watch out for high gas prices if the tanker blockade doesn't turn out to be another TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) fantasy threat.

Im a BM wrote:
It is ok to shoot drug smugglers on the seas, even with a missile.

Im a BM wrote:
United Healthcare is just a scam, everybody pays into it like a lottery, and the monthly bills skimmed from everybody's pay check is what makes drug prices seem cheap. Loads of people become dependent on pharmaceutical drugs. They never make anybody healthier. And a lot of them are opiates.

Im a BM wrote:
Speaking of opiates, and I must correct my previous erroneous assertion, they are the THIRD most deadly addictive substance killing Americans (80,000 per year), after tobacco (480,000 killed per year), and alcohol (180,000 per year).

Im a BM wrote:
Venezuela is a very small player in the opiate trade. A little heroin, but nothing compared to their neighbors (Colombia, Mexico, etc.). No fentanyl is produced in Venezuela, nor is Venezuela a transit point for fentanyl.

Im a BM wrote:
Did anyone notice how many of the boats we keep blowing up are in the eastern Pacific ocean? Venezuela does not have ANY coastline on the Pacific.

Im a BM wrote:
Back in the good old days when alcohol was illegal for about a decade, they could have used the US Navy and US Army Air Corps to blow away boats and trucks bringing in alcohol to the US. Heck, they could have done so strictly at our borders, rather than on high seas thousands of miles away. It would not have been "okay".

Im a BM wrote:
"It's okay to shoot drug smugglers on the seas.."- Into the Night

The "Opium wars" were a real thing that happened a century and a half ago.

Im a BM wrote:
Not the castrated Congress!

Im a BM wrote:
They are much too afraid of Trump to assert any power over his whims.

Im a BM wrote:
Problem is, even TRUMP doesn't know what he's actually going to do.

Im a BM wrote:
Watch out for high gas prices if the tanker blockade doesn't turn out to be another TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) fantasy threat.

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
It is ok to shoot drug smugglers on the seas, even with a missile.

Then by your logic, Luigi Mangione should be exonerated.

Im a BM wrote:
United Healthcare is just a scam, everybody pays into it like a lottery, and the monthly bills skimmed from everybody's pay check is what makes drug prices seem cheap. Loads of people become dependent on pharmaceutical drugs. They never make anybody healthier. And a lot of them are opiates.

Im a BM wrote:
Speaking of opiates, and I must correct my previous erroneous assertion, they are the THIRD most deadly addictive substance killing Americans (80,000 per year), after tobacco (480,000 killed per year), and alcohol (180,000 per year).

Im a BM wrote:
Venezuela is a very small player in the opiate trade. A little heroin, but nothing compared to their neighbors (Colombia, Mexico, etc.). No fentanyl is produced in Venezuela, nor is Venezuela a transit point for fentanyl.

Im a BM wrote:
Did anyone notice how many of the boats we keep blowing up are in the eastern Pacific ocean? Venezuela does not have ANY coastline on the Pacific.

Im a BM wrote:
Back in the good old days when alcohol was illegal for about a decade, they could have used the US Navy and US Army Air Corps to blow away boats and trucks bringing in alcohol to the US. Heck, they could have done so strictly at our borders, rather than on high seas thousands of miles away. It would not have been "okay".

Im a BM wrote:
"It's okay to shoot drug smugglers on the seas.."- Into the Night

The "Opium wars" were a real thing that happened a century and a half ago.

Im a BM wrote:
Not the castrated Congress!

Im a BM wrote:
They are much too afraid of Trump to assert any power over his whims.

Im a BM wrote:
Problem is, even TRUMP doesn't know what he's actually going to do.

Im a BM wrote:
Watch out for high gas prices if the tanker blockade doesn't turn out to be another TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) fantasy threat.

Im a BM wrote:

Alcohol today kills at least twice as many Americans every year as do opiates.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Alcohol today kills at least twice as many Americans every year as do opiates.

Why do people drink? I think it's a pain killer. I guess that is pretty similar to opiates.

Me personally, pretty much the only time I drink is at the office Christmas party. Yeah those can be pretty painful for somebody of my social grace. I skipped this year's.

Usually, my pain tolerance can be pretty extreme, so alcohol is not something I feel to be necessary.

Also, it can definitely trigger feelings of depression.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Alcohol today kills at least twice as many Americans every year as do opiates.

Why do people drink? I think it's a pain killer. I guess that is pretty similar to opiates.

Me personally, pretty much the only time I drink is at the office Christmas party. Yeah those can be pretty painful for somebody of my social grace. I skipped this year's.

Usually, my pain tolerance can be pretty extreme, so alcohol is not something I feel to be necessary.

Also, it can definitely trigger feelings of depression.

My grandmother was born in the 19th century, from an educated family, and trained as one of the first females at the University of California to become a nurse. She told me how doctors used to PRESCRIBE alcohol for multiple medical conditions. My great, great grandfather was a tea totaler, prescribed to drink a prescription of "one glass" of vodka at night. After a few very difficult nights he consulted with his doctor. Without any drinking experience, he didn't realize he had been prescribed to drink one SHOT glass of vodka. He was filling a regular drinking water glass with the stuff and dutifully following doctor's orders. He was getting dangerously drunk and sick from the doctor's prescription.

I would argue that even NICOTINE can be of medical value. I remember well when my friend finally got constipation relief, after going a few days without any cigs. Practically within 30 seconds of finally getting his cigarette, he got relief. Maybe I should look it up, but I'm not aware of doctors ever prescribing nicotine for medical treatment. It obviously has laxative value.

Doctors are more likely to encourage a patient to NOT use nicotine, particularly as inhaled smoke from burning tobacco. Doctors are more likely to discourage a patient from using alcohol than to prescribe it.

Lets take a hypothetical example of an adult male who seeks a doctor's advice about what health-endangering habits he might give up in order to live longer.

He asks, "Should I stop smoking cigarettes? Or will I get greater health benefits if I instead stop having orgasms?"

I'm not a medical doctor, but I think that to stop smoking is the obvious better choice for health benefits.

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Im a BM wrote:

Alcohol today kills at least twice as many Americans every year as do opiates.

Why do people drink? I think it's a pain killer. I guess that is pretty similar to opiates.

Me personally, pretty much the only time I drink is at the office Christmas party. Yeah those can be pretty painful for somebody of my social grace. I skipped this year's.

Usually, my pain tolerance can be pretty extreme, so alcohol is not something I feel to be necessary.

Also, it can definitely trigger feelings of depression.

My grandmother was born in the 19th century, from an educated family, and trained as one of the first females at the University of California to become a nurse. She told me how doctors used to PRESCRIBE alcohol for multiple medical conditions. My great, great grandfather was a tea totaler, prescribed to drink a prescription of "one glass" of vodka at night. After a few very difficult nights he consulted with his doctor. Without any drinking experience, he didn't realize he had been prescribed to drink one SHOT glass of vodka. He was filling a regular drinking water glass with the stuff and dutifully following doctor's orders. He was getting dangerously drunk and sick from the doctor's prescription.

I would argue that even NICOTINE can be of medical value. I remember well when my friend finally got constipation relief, after going a few days without any cigs. Practically within 30 seconds of finally getting his cigarette, he got relief. Maybe I should look it up, but I'm not aware of doctors ever prescribing nicotine for medical treatment. It obviously has laxative value.

Doctors are more likely to encourage a patient to NOT use nicotine, particularly as inhaled smoke from burning tobacco. Doctors are more likely to discourage a patient from using alcohol than to prescribe it.

Lets take a hypothetical example of an adult male who seeks a doctor's advice about what health-endangering habits he might give up in order to live longer.

He asks, "Should I stop smoking cigarettes? Or will I get greater health benefits if I instead stop having orgasms?"

I'm not a medical doctor, but I think that to stop smoking is the obvious better choice for health benefits.

In my opinion, quitting orgasms will get rid of semen.

Perhaps you have heard the phrase, young, dumb, and full of cum. Well it's true for old people too! And women!

My opinion is based on my sense of smell. Quit orgasms long enough and the semen is gonna get sucked into the intestines/bowels, for the purpose of getting rid of it!

Doctors may want to consider the Brahmacharya wise phrase, 40 drops of blood go into making 1 drop of semen. This sure sounds like a parasitic process to me.

At that point, shitting becomes much more difficult, a real fight to the death, if you ask me. Nicotine seems to help a bit.

Im a BM wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

In my opinion, quitting orgasms will get rid of semen.

Perhaps you have heard the phrase, young, dumb, and full of cum. Well it's true for old people too! And women!

My opinion is based on my sense of smell. Quit orgasms long enough and the semen is gonna get sucked into the intestines/bowels, for the purpose of getting rid of it!

Doctors may want to consider the Brahmacharya wise phrase, 40 drops of blood go into making 1 drop of semen. This sure sounds like a parasitic process to me.

At that point, shitting becomes much more difficult, a real fight to the death, if you ask me. Nicotine seems to help a bit.

I'm not a medical doctor, but I play one on the Internet.

The interstitia, comprised of connective tissue, is the largest integrated organ of the human body. Under control of the autonomic nervous system, with the brain stem controlling the sympathetic and parasympathetic neural pathways parallel to the spinal cord. It can exert pressure to expel material, but mainly it exerts tension to suck things in. It can suck material out of the sinuses and direct it to the colon for rectal expulsion. It can't push anywhere near as hard as it can pull. It pushes as we exhale, and pulls as we inhale.

It has been barely a decade since the interstitia was recognized as a single organ. One thing they noticed it that it can transport particles of tatoo pigment from one part of the body to another. The interstitia does things that the lymphatic system cannot, particular in regard to toxic gas products from human or microbial metabolism. Asthma and COPD are intimately related to how the interstia connects to the repiratory system. Prostate issues are another point of interstial contact with frequent medical implications. It literally connects every part of the body to every other part. It can carry oxygen into tissues too deep to be reached by blood-carried hemoglobin. It can remove volatile toxic gases that will not dissolve well in lymph or blood.

In the movie "Little Big Man", General Custer is shown as a believer in new medical theories about his own conditions. "Poison from the gonads seeps into the throat.", says Custer in the movie. Well, it has to go SOMEWHERE. The interstia has at least three outlets to expel material from the body. It can push it out through pores in the skin. It can inject it directly into the colon through multiple entry ports. It can let the poisonous materials "seep into the throat", expelled from behind the tonsils. This has the disadvantage that one tends to swallow the stuff. But it is generally harmless in the stomach, sterilized and neutralized by strong stomach acid. There may be a shunt that allows the liver to expel toxic material this way as well, rather than chemically detoxify it or allow it to damage the kidneys.

Because the interstitia connects everything to everything else in the body, there are a multitude of related medical conditions. Most of them can be identified by the treatment prescribed - corticosteroids that suppress the immune system's ability to fight infections.

One of the greatest weaknesses of our interstitia is its dependence on liquid water to keep things flowing. The pumps must be primed with water to be able to push and pull the stuff moving in the interstia. One of most important entry points for fresh water entry to the interstitia are where tears enter the paranasal sinuses. The interstitia needs tears for irrigation. It can't function if it is dry.

Depression is a very common symptom associated with many interstitia-related medical conditions. People whose lives provide them with nothing to be sad about find they just need to cry and cry. And not just a little bit. To irrigate a dried out piece of interstitia, one must really sob in a serious crying jag, pushing hard on the tears to ensure they enter the paranasal sinuses.

If I were a doctor, I would prescribe to such patients that they select the best tear jerker songs they ever loved to hear, play them, and exaggerate the most sorrowful event they can remember to get tears flowing. Then they need to PUSH on those tears with their eyes tight shut. The painful sting and burn is momentarily terrifying, almost immediately followed by a sense of deep relief. But you can't pussy out. You have to take the pain and make it keep happening as long as you can stand it. The simultaneous relief, like scratching an itch, will be how you body reassures you that it is really safe. The autonomic nervous system has to communicate with the central nervous system about these things.

But, yes, semen can get sucked into the bowels. One can attempt to have an orgasm with external exit of fluids, only to discover that few drops were produced, and the rest of the wad went somewhere else.