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Private Messages23-06-2019 01:36
HarveyH55
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From L8112
Date 19. June 2019, 14:29
Subject .
Go on quoting your usual data-tampered misinformation, because after all-you know better than rocket scientists (NASA). There is a word for this: obstinate. Self-assertion, dissimulating and speaking falsehood-these are your modes of operation, and are the constant retinues or attendants of self-justification. When I say you are a worthless pile of inert genetic monkey shit, I mean exactly that. No pulling punches. You will defend the rape of planet earth, the planet that sustains life, with absolute hatred with your anonymous troll gig because you get a 'rush' trying to sound smart, or force your cognitive beliefs on others.

Being par for the course, you will claim your are the victim here being 'attacked'. Needless to say I don't give even a tithe of ****s about your feelings. Here is what I can tell you, from someone who has an IQ in the 99th percentile (99% chance I am smarter than you)- KNOW THE TRUTH: ALL OF THIS SHIT WILL BE BURIED UNDER MILES OF ICE IN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS. The dramatic unprecedented heating and subsequent melting we are seeing unfold right now will kill every living thing on the planet, and collapse the thermohaline system, which will eventually lead to a re-freezing of the poles. You see this 'lag' of surface air temps because it takes decades for the thermohaline system to overturn, we are currently observing the effect of changes made to such a system-in the 90s. All that heat, the result of releasing huge amounts of energy into the environment has mainly been absorbed by the oceans to this point. Right now arctic sea is collapsing as we speak, Greenland experienced 2 Gigatons of melt in 24 hours, and we are midway through June, most of that occurs in July/august if at all.
This planet will be as lifeless as the surface of Mars. Sterile. I will Let you laugh with your nuevo-keyboard crap, and know how slowly and horribly you and your decedents will die; and feel glad. "The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict."


Wow, my first private message, figured I share...

Really don't know what to do with this BS. IQ, doesn't mean you are smart, just that you have the potential. It's the internet, you can create yourself into any fantasy you wish to sell. I don't recall ever accusing NASA of anything, they don't control how their dat is used, or misused, it's just data. They can't say the IPCC climatologists misrepresent the data, since they are working within the margin of error, which is acceptable. Besides, data sets aren't free, why fight with a paying customer?

The rest is pure fantasy and conjecture, nothing to compare with or validate. Inter-glacial periods are a new thing for our species, this is really our first one, in recorded history. We have no way of knowing what normal is, so how do we know we are doing any harm?

I do agree we should clean up our home a little, quite producing trash items, you know, all those convenient single use, single serving products. I don't put anything in my coffee, but don't know anyone who only uses one packet of sugar. Not to mention, they don't just drink one cup of coffee per day, either, and this goes on, everyday... Seems like it would be better to buy bulk, and spoon in as much as desired. Drive thru condiments, does anyone, just use one? Disposable diapers... How many time do you change a kid per day, and how many days? That's a lot of trash, just for one kid, and there are a lot of kids. Bottled water, which for the most part, is just filtered water, available from taps everywhere. I don't deny, there are times, and places, but way too many people buying bottled water, who have the same, easy access, to the same water, coming out of a tap nearby, usually just a few feet away.

I don't agree with clearing acres of natural woodlands, to plant solar farms (like Disney recently completed).
23-06-2019 03:28
IBdaMann
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HarveyH55 wrote:Wow, my first private message, figured I share...

L8112 is PM'ing everyone the exact same copy-pasted stuff.

He thinks being in the top 99% of IQs makes him smart. He's not smart enough to realize that the smart people are in the top 1%.

Send him a PM asking him to provide you the science he insists he has that supports Global Warming. He won't show me. Maybe he'll show you.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
RE: .23-06-2019 03:34
L8112
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IQ doesnt matter, no amount of 'thinking', which you do a lot of, will solve the problem. nor will crying for your buddies to soothe you and affirm your cognitive beliefs.
23-06-2019 04:00
IBdaMann
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L8112 wrote: IQ doesnt matter, no amount of 'thinking', which you do a lot of, will solve the problem.

What is the "problem"?

L8112 wrote: nor will crying for your buddies to soothe you and affirm your cognitive beliefs.

What is a cognitive belief vs. a non-cognitive belief?


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
23-06-2019 04:49
HarveyH55
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L8112 wrote:
IQ doesnt matter, no amount of 'thinking', which you do a lot of, will solve the problem. nor will crying for your buddies to soothe you and affirm your cognitive beliefs.


I haven't seen any compelling evidence that there is an problem with the way the climate 'might' be trending. If anything, it would be a good thing, not a crisis. Just because something looks possible on paper, doesn't mean it will really happen. Video games and simulations, aren't reality.

The only crying I'll be doing, is if a liberal/socialist gets elected president, and wants to tax/steal, everything I spent my life earning, to just give away, or waste on silly things, the federal government shouldn't even be involved in.

If I remember right, the most recent deadline to take action, was 2030, in which case, I'm sure it won't be too late. The projected point of no-return, is long after my life expectancy, so nothing for me to worry about, except my retirement savings.
23-06-2019 05:12
HarveyH55
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Wow, my first private message, figured I share...

L8112 is PM'ing everyone the exact same copy-pasted stuff.

He thinks being in the top 99% of IQs makes him smart. He's not smart enough to realize that the smart people are in the top 1%.

Send him a PM asking him to provide you the science he insists he has that supports Global Warming. He won't show me. Maybe he'll show you.


I'm not such a private person, the whole thing should have been posted public anyway. If there was personal information, or something 'sensitive', I probably wouldn't, out of respect.

I suppose I should have inquired about those strange posts the other day. Kind of curious, was beer, medication, some sort of break down, experiment software fail? Guess even mega-geniuses make mistakes, nobody can be perfect. I just some how would have thought, that really smart people, would make me feel stupid. Just not feeling it from him. You'd think it be a simple matter, for a genius to put together a compelling argument, that doesn't include insults, name calling, and barely coherent rants and denials. Just provide the truth, the raw facts, it's so much easier, and hard to deny. Telling lies, is the difficult thing, you can't hide from the truth in your own mind, and you have remember the lie you told, and the details you give to each person you tell, just incase they ever get together, and compare notes. Lies are never simple, they keep growing, keep getting more complex, you get pressed to invent more details, which you have to remember, and keep seperate from the truth. This is part of what makes me skeptical about Climate Change. Starts out simple enough, man-made CO2, greenhouse gas, global warming, scorched earth. But looking for details, it just keeps getting more, and more complex, makes less sense. Then, you keep hitting the paywall. You think you are close to getting at some truth, but you have to gamble. With government money, who cares if the papers are crap, it's free money. When it's your own paycheck, you tend to back off, any answers aren't that important. It would be nice to have proof positive, that it's complete nonsense, just not worth paying for. Which is why it's going to fail anyway, nobody wants to pay...
23-06-2019 05:21
GasGuzzler
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L8112 wrote:Go on quoting your usual data-tampered misinformation


The only things we "deniers" accept is raw data. It is YOU that is touting manufactured data.

L8112 wrote:When I say you are a worthless pile of inert genetic monkey shit, I mean exactly that. No pulling punches. You will defend the rape of planet earth, the planet that sustains life, with absolute hatred with your anonymous troll gig because you get a 'rush' trying to sound smart,


Gosh I think it was YOU that called Harvey a hater. I'm not feeling the love here.

L8112 wrote:or force your cognitive beliefs on others.


No one is forcing their belief on you. It is YOU that is forcing your religion on us by asking us to pay for your beliefs.

L8112 wrote:Being par for the course, you will claim your are the victim here being 'attacked'.


It is you YOU that is claiming victim status by your accusation of earth rapers.

L8112 wrote:Needless to say I don't give even a tithe of ****s about your feelings.


****s........FUELS?!

L8112 wrote:Here is what I can tell you, from someone who has an IQ in the 99th percentile (99% chance I am smarter than you)


Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

L8112 wrote:- KNOW THE TRUTH: ALL OF THIS SHIT WILL BE BURIED UNDER MILES OF ICE IN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS. The dramatic unprecedented heating and subsequent melting we are seeing unfold right now will kill every living thing on the planet, and collapse the thermohaline system, which will eventually lead to a re-freezing of the poles.


Yup. We actually hear this one all the time now. "The planet is warming at an alarming rate. That is PRECISELY why it's so ****ing cold out!"

L8112 wrote:You see this 'lag' of surface air temps because it takes decades for the thermohaline system to overturn, we are currently observing the effect of changes made to such a system-in the 90s. All that heat, the result of releasing huge amounts of energy into the environment has mainly been absorbed by the oceans to this point. Right now arctic sea is collapsing as we speak, Greenland experienced 2 Gigatons of melt in 24 hours, and we are midway through June, most of that occurs in July/august if at all.


I assume you didn't personally weigh the 2 Gigs of ice before they flash melted so could you cite your source on this please? Thank You.

L8112 wrote:This planet will be as lifeless as the surface of Mars.


Have you got a time frame on this? I'm hearing some crazy shit like 12 years from now. You buy it?

L8112 wrote:I will Let you laugh with your nuevo-keyboard crap, and know how slowly and horribly you and your decedents will die; and feel glad. "The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict."


You DID call Harvey the hater, right??


I think people screw me over because they don't want to see someone willing to put out the effort that they won't.~James~
24-06-2019 06:13
IBdaMann
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GasGuzzler wrote:Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

Very astute of you to pick up on that. Yes, he earns his 5-minute Masters Degree from Wikipedia. He doesn't understand a thing he copy-pastes but he truly believes he is convincing people that he is REALLY SMART every time he pastes something from Wikipedia.

I was a bit stunned at first when he started "disagreeing" with me on math, followed by block-copied paragraphs that weren't exactly of the correct topic.

I submit that you would be a bit naive to think that the opinions he copies-pastes into his posts are actually his opinions. Surely you have noticed that he is simply regurgitating opinions of others.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
24-06-2019 06:26
GasGuzzler
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(1392)
IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

Very astute of you to pick up on that. Yes, he earns his 5-minute Masters Degree from Wikipedia. He doesn't understand a thing he copy-pastes but he truly believes he is convincing people that he is REALLY SMART every time he pastes something from Wikipedia.

I was a bit stunned at first when he started "disagreeing" with me on math, followed by block-copied paragraphs that weren't exactly of the correct topic.

I submit that you would be a bit naive to think that the opinions he copies-pastes into his posts are actually his opinions. Surely you have noticed that he is simply regurgitating opinions of others.


I haven't noticed any copynpaste, but that doesn't surprise me. Definitely regurgitated shit though. Same old tired lines that I first heard from Ted Danson 30 years ago. Yup, he said we're all dead in 20 years.


I think people screw me over because they don't want to see someone willing to put out the effort that they won't.~James~
24-06-2019 12:46
Into the Night
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IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

Very astute of you to pick up on that. Yes, he earns his 5-minute Masters Degree from Wikipedia. He doesn't understand a thing he copy-pastes but he truly believes he is convincing people that he is REALLY SMART every time he pastes something from Wikipedia.

I was a bit stunned at first when he started "disagreeing" with me on math, followed by block-copied paragraphs that weren't exactly of the correct topic.

I submit that you would be a bit naive to think that the opinions he copies-pastes into his posts are actually his opinions. Surely you have noticed that he is simply regurgitating opinions of others.


I have. It's the nature of fundamentalist beliefs to point to the arguments of others as 'proof' of their religion. It is part of the consensus they must depend on to survive as a religion.

It is also laziness of thinking. Instead of forming your own arguments and presenting them, fundamentalists such as L8112 just steal the arguments of others, often without even understanding those arguments in the first place.

Younger people these days tend to also depend a lot on cut and paste. They never learned to think for themselves. No one ever showed them how.


The Parrot Killer
24-06-2019 17:01
HarveyH55
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Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

Very astute of you to pick up on that. Yes, he earns his 5-minute Masters Degree from Wikipedia. He doesn't understand a thing he copy-pastes but he truly believes he is convincing people that he is REALLY SMART every time he pastes something from Wikipedia.

I was a bit stunned at first when he started "disagreeing" with me on math, followed by block-copied paragraphs that weren't exactly of the correct topic.

I submit that you would be a bit naive to think that the opinions he copies-pastes into his posts are actually his opinions. Surely you have noticed that he is simply regurgitating opinions of others.


I have. It's the nature of fundamentalist beliefs to point to the arguments of others as 'proof' of their religion. It is part of the consensus they must depend on to survive as a religion.

It is also laziness of thinking. Instead of forming your own arguments and presenting them, fundamentalists such as L8112 just steal the arguments of others, often without even understanding those arguments in the first place.

Younger people these days tend to also depend a lot on cut and paste. They never learned to think for themselves. No one ever showed them how.


I'm not sure it so much no one ever showed them how, it's more like they were never allowed. People are in such a hurry these days, just more efficient to do a child's think for them, then waste time wait for them to figure things out. Learning comes from making mistakes, which are embarrassing. Lord help a child or parent, who's mistake is posted all over social media, to be enshrined forever. We all fail, we all make mistakes, part of learning and living, the only embarrassing thing, is to keep making the same sort of mistakes, keep failing at the same task, and never learning from it.
24-06-2019 20:19
Into the Night
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

Very astute of you to pick up on that. Yes, he earns his 5-minute Masters Degree from Wikipedia. He doesn't understand a thing he copy-pastes but he truly believes he is convincing people that he is REALLY SMART every time he pastes something from Wikipedia.

I was a bit stunned at first when he started "disagreeing" with me on math, followed by block-copied paragraphs that weren't exactly of the correct topic.

I submit that you would be a bit naive to think that the opinions he copies-pastes into his posts are actually his opinions. Surely you have noticed that he is simply regurgitating opinions of others.


I have. It's the nature of fundamentalist beliefs to point to the arguments of others as 'proof' of their religion. It is part of the consensus they must depend on to survive as a religion.

It is also laziness of thinking. Instead of forming your own arguments and presenting them, fundamentalists such as L8112 just steal the arguments of others, often without even understanding those arguments in the first place.

Younger people these days tend to also depend a lot on cut and paste. They never learned to think for themselves. No one ever showed them how.


I'm not sure it so much no one ever showed them how, it's more like they were never allowed.

It is both. Schools don't want independent thinkers. They're troublesome. They "don't fit the mold".
HarveyH55 wrote:
People are in such a hurry these days,
They have been for many years, even decades. That's nothing new.

Before the coming of the printing press, people lived by their memory. They had incredible ability to remember things in their head back then. Old people were honored because they had their experience to pass on to others.

The coming of the book took much of that away. You no longer had to remember facts, you could now look them up. You no longer had to depend on older people to pass on their experience. Now you could hold an expert's mind in your hand.

The coming of the internet has done the same thing. It is the coming of the book part II. Now information is instantly available. The need to remember anything or even think for yourself has become an act of just Googling for it.

Like the books, the author of that information might be an expert, they might be a complete idiot. Books took time and effort and money to acquire and read. There was still some level of thinking for yourself. Today, it's free and easy information, and with it, free and easy propaganda and false information.

Learning can be by many methods. You don't have to make an error to learn. You can learn from the mistakes of others, for example. You can learn from reading a book. You can learn from reading a web page.

So how does one learn to discriminate falsehoods from worthwhile information?

The answer is reasoning. It is learning to think for yourself despite the book...despite the internet. It is the ability to reason that gives you the ability to learn.

Philosophy has basically one simple rule: any arguments presented must be your own. You use predicates that come from general acceptance, but the conclusion must be yours. You cannot use another's argument as your own, for that is the philosophy of another, not of you.

The predicates themselves are presented as a conditional. The resulting sequence of conclusions are conditional upon the initial predicates.

A philosophical argument is a sequence of arguments, using conclusions drawn from earlier arguments as predicates for later ones. By this means, philosophy can define words like 'science' or 'religion'. It not only gives their meaning, it gives the reasoning for their meaning, something a mere dictionary cannot do.

HarveyH55 wrote:
just more efficient to do a child's think for them, then waste time wait for them to figure things out.

Another way of looking at it.
HarveyH55 wrote:
Learning comes from making mistakes, which are embarrassing.

It can...it doesn't have to.
HarveyH55 wrote:
Lord help a child or parent, who's mistake is posted all over social media, to be enshrined forever. We all fail, we all make mistakes, part of learning and living, the only embarrassing thing, is to keep making the same sort of mistakes, keep failing at the same task, and never learning from it.

This factor can definitely inhibit learning. It is why many people never learn to speak in public. It is why they fear getting on a stage in front of an audience.

The fear of getting ostracized from your religion is a big fear. In fundamentalist religions, which unfortunately many liberals subscribe to, any thoughts you may have that is made known that is not part of The Religion makes you an enemy of that Religion. You are cast out as a heretic. You can never go back.

THAT is the fear every liberal lives under. It is a fear that consumes their lives.

Thus, they must project their own hatred upon conservatives, to justify their own hatred. They must show their fellows the horrific price of leaving The Religion or even questioning any part of it.

It is rule by compulsion. Independence, thinking for yourself, reasoning for yourself, all quashed by The Religion.

This is exactly the same argument Satan makes in the Bible.

This not to say that every liberal is a Satan. It is to say that every liberal has fallen under such rule. They are a prisoner of their own making, subject to the dictatorship of any that takes advantage of them, for they cannot reason for themselves.

Many conservatives have fallen into the same trap. They too are often just echoing the arguments of others, and just as subject to the winds of those that they take their arguments from. Their advantage is that, being conservatives, are not willing to completely submit their lives to The Religion.

Those that can reason for themselves are the dissidents. They see truths that others cannot. They see the prison the liberals make for themselves. They are the ones trying to free them and to put down such dictators. They are few in number.

They are they that have compassion, even for the liberal...for all men.

This is exactly the argument Christ makes in the Bible. It is the path he teaches.

It matters not whether you believe Christ or Satan to be real entities. The reasoning is the same. The arguments made in the Bible are the same.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 24-06-2019 20:29
24-06-2019 22:29
gfm7175
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IBdaMann wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Ahh, you're a book smart with no logical common sense. I've known one or two like you.

Very astute of you to pick up on that. Yes, he earns his 5-minute Masters Degree from Wikipedia. He doesn't understand a thing he copy-pastes but he truly believes he is convincing people that he is REALLY SMART every time he pastes something from Wikipedia.

I was a bit stunned at first when he started "disagreeing" with me on math, followed by block-copied paragraphs that weren't exactly of the correct topic.

I submit that you would be a bit naive to think that the opinions he copies-pastes into his posts are actually his opinions. Surely you have noticed that he is simply regurgitating opinions of others.

I would think that someone in the "99th percentile of IQ" wouldn't regularly resort to regurgitating other people's opinions, since he made it quite clear in his PM that 99% of people are beneath him, intellectually speaking. Why regurgitate that which you consider to be beneath you, L8112?

I also agree with the notion that there are many different ways in which intelligence can show itself, hence why I personally consider IQ scores to hold little/no meaning. It largely means that someone performed well at a particular test at a particular point in time.
25-06-2019 06:55
IBdaMann
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gfm7175 wrote:
It largely means that someone performed well at a particular test at a particular point in time.

... in a particular language geared towards a particular set of cultural cues, norms, customs, conventions and utilized references.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
25-06-2019 06:58
gfm7175
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
It largely means that someone performed well at a particular test at a particular point in time.

... in a particular language geared towards a particular set of cultural cues, norms, customs, conventions and utilized references.

**thumbs up**
16-07-2019 10:26
HarveyH55
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Just got a sequel. Sort of reminds of some of James' rants. Like any fortune teller, missed the mark considerably. Such a foul mouth from someone who sell-proclaims superiority. I don't believe I've displayed any anger or rage, here. Usually save that for more appropriate moments Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.

From L8112
Date 16. July 2019, 06:14
Subject sup
Where can I get a list of molecules with special powers and abilities? CO2, creates energy, destroys they planet with hell fire. O3 reflects in only one direction, and created all life on this planet. The didn't teach this stuff in Chem 101, or maybe I missed those lectures. Guess you only get that kind of education at a Liberal Arts school...


Due to the fact that you are innumerate, and barley literate, you don't understand that the warming mechanism is due to burning 6^21 joules of energy over the last half century in the form of coal, oil and fossil fuels. This is thermodynamics 101, you burn something in one form (stored sunlight i.e. oil) and it is converted into thermal energy, energy is conserved. Because you are a low iq trump-ape you wear your ignorance like a badge. All of this is a big game show to you, and your leader is a former game show host.

https://www.inverse.com/article/57693-antarctica-worse-off-than-greenland-ice-melt-rapid-change-climate-crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/01/precipitous-fall-in-antarctic-sea-ice-revealed
https://news.mongabay.com/2019/07/arctic-in-free-fall-2019-sea-ice-volume-sinks-to-near-record-for-june/
http://theconversation.com/arctic-ice-loss-is-worrying-but-the-giant-stirring-in-the-south-could-be-even-worse-119822
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0179-y

Those are all from the last 3 days.

Now go ahead and spew your ignorant piss, but before you do that, I think I ought to tell you just you despised you have always been, and give you the accurate picture of your 'self', which you are bereft from comprehending--As a child, you were looked down upon by the other kids, even by the parents of the other children. Unattractive, perhaps, albeit, if attractive, treated different, not well. Less intelligent, incapacity to understand the other kids, what they were doing, thinking, saying. Only the knowledge that when they looked at you, that smirk, gave away; even to your incapacitated brain, the fact that they looked down upon you, as less than, ugly, I mean inside, the devolving to outwardly, less intelligent, cannot behave like them, because you lack the capacity to see the world the way they do. You never even understood what it is they saw. You only knew, as you know now, that you are less than, in every way; less intelligent, now less attractive, less educated, less capable, less 'money,' less physical ability, everything, less than, and looked down upon.

Your despair saved you by turning to anger, then, internal rage; a hatred for all homo sapiens, even extending to other species, you don't care; because you lack the capacity to do so. As a result of this despair, now acidicly spiraled down to internal rage, which you are powerless to climb out of by way of any achievement, because you are in fact less; and that is true – you are powerless to climb out of being garbage, and you are garbage, the entire world of people, whom you cannot even understand, has made it clear, even to your lack of comprehension, that you are, by definition, garbage.

Shattering back and forth inside your incapacitated physical brain, you lash out with your acidic mouth, crying and wailing in despair, which comes out as nasty shit, garbage. Just non-stop shit, garbage you are ↦ garbage out.

Oddly, you have noticed that no one has mutilated you as you open that garbage shit of an inert genetic monkey shit mouth; and wail. That is all the power you have, a mouth, the garbage of your wailing and crying, as nasty biochemical processes further eat your shit brain from the inside out. Even your dreams are filled with being trapped, isolated, singled out. Your dreams are some attempt by your incapacitated physical brain to cope with being put down, shoved down, where you belong, where you are.

So, I will explain it to you: The reason you have not been mutilated as a result of the garbage that is your mouth; is because they hear you, and they pity you.

Pity is why you are alive.

Did I hurt your feelings? turns out the holocene extinction is not a game show. If it helps you pick up the pieces of your annihilated psyche, do confide in your other anon-shitbrain friends.
16-07-2019 15:12
L8112
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Just got a sequel. Sort of reminds of some of James' rants. Like any fortune teller, missed the mark considerably. Such a foul mouth from someone who sell-proclaims superiority. I don't believe I've displayed any anger or rage, here. Usually save that for more appropriate moments Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.

From L8112
Date 16. July 2019, 06:14
Subject sup
Where can I get a list of molecules with special powers and abilities? CO2, creates energy, destroys they planet with hell fire. O3 reflects in only one direction, and created all life on this planet. The didn't teach this stuff in Chem 101, or maybe I missed those lectures. Guess you only get that kind of education at a Liberal Arts school...


Due to the fact that you are innumerate, and barley literate, you don't understand that the warming mechanism is due to burning 6^21 joules of energy over the last half century in the form of coal, oil and fossil fuels. This is thermodynamics 101, you burn something in one form (stored sunlight i.e. oil) and it is converted into thermal energy, energy is conserved. Because you are a low iq trump-ape you wear your ignorance like a badge. All of this is a big game show to you, and your leader is a former game show host.

https://www.inverse.com/article/57693-antarctica-worse-off-than-greenland-ice-melt-rapid-change-climate-crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/01/precipitous-fall-in-antarctic-sea-ice-revealed
https://news.mongabay.com/2019/07/arctic-in-free-fall-2019-sea-ice-volume-sinks-to-near-record-for-june/
http://theconversation.com/arctic-ice-loss-is-worrying-but-the-giant-stirring-in-the-south-could-be-even-worse-119822
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0179-y

Those are all from the last 3 days.

Now go ahead and spew your ignorant piss, but before you do that, I think I ought to tell you just you despised you have always been, and give you the accurate picture of your 'self', which you are bereft from comprehending--As a child, you were looked down upon by the other kids, even by the parents of the other children. Unattractive, perhaps, albeit, if attractive, treated different, not well. Less intelligent, incapacity to understand the other kids, what they were doing, thinking, saying. Only the knowledge that when they looked at you, that smirk, gave away; even to your incapacitated brain, the fact that they looked down upon you, as less than, ugly, I mean inside, the devolving to outwardly, less intelligent, cannot behave like them, because you lack the capacity to see the world the way they do. You never even understood what it is they saw. You only knew, as you know now, that you are less than, in every way; less intelligent, now less attractive, less educated, less capable, less 'money,' less physical ability, everything, less than, and looked down upon.

Your despair saved you by turning to anger, then, internal rage; a hatred for all homo sapiens, even extending to other species, you don't care; because you lack the capacity to do so. As a result of this despair, now acidicly spiraled down to internal rage, which you are powerless to climb out of by way of any achievement, because you are in fact less; and that is true – you are powerless to climb out of being garbage, and you are garbage, the entire world of people, whom you cannot even understand, has made it clear, even to your lack of comprehension, that you are, by definition, garbage.

Shattering back and forth inside your incapacitated physical brain, you lash out with your acidic mouth, crying and wailing in despair, which comes out as nasty shit, garbage. Just non-stop shit, garbage you are ↦ garbage out.

Oddly, you have noticed that no one has mutilated you as you open that garbage shit of an inert genetic monkey shit mouth; and wail. That is all the power you have, a mouth, the garbage of your wailing and crying, as nasty biochemical processes further eat your shit brain from the inside out. Even your dreams are filled with being trapped, isolated, singled out. Your dreams are some attempt by your incapacitated physical brain to cope with being put down, shoved down, where you belong, where you are.

So, I will explain it to you: The reason you have not been mutilated as a result of the garbage that is your mouth; is because they hear you, and they pity you.

Pity is why you are alive.

Did I hurt your feelings? turns out the holocene extinction is not a game show. If it helps you pick up the pieces of your annihilated psyche, do confide in your other anon-shitbrain friends.


atta boy, go seek pity for enforcing the holocene extinction, after all, this is evidence that you 'win' the debate. You were insulted, no, tore you to literal f**king pieces. That is an ad hominem attack! You win the debate! you win the game show!!!......,come on down, you get a brand new car!!!!!!

When you saw trump a few years back speaking your language (the language of primitive genetic monkey garbage) your face lit up with joy, "Finally someone gets me, oh dearest leader, lead me to the promised land of material wealth and status, just like you, because I am low in the monkey pecking order". Trump understood you, he spoke your language-that of primitve anger and hatred. He campaigned on hatred and fear as he is again doing. He offered your incapacitated brain all sorts of delusions about finally being 'made great', not america, the sales pitch is to make YOU great again, because you are that disgruntled with your 'self, you are less than in every conceivable way.
The proof is in watching the very fine people at trump rallies, they arent deplorables, they are a millimeter from full blown monkeys, yet due to their larger prefrontal cortex, masquerade as 'humans'...that is you.

This answers the question of why trump loves to fling his shit at other people.
That is what monkeys do for fun, they take their shit and throw it at each other.
Edited on 16-07-2019 15:39
16-07-2019 15:49
GasGuzzler
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L8112 wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Just got a sequel. Sort of reminds of some of James' rants. Like any fortune teller, missed the mark considerably. Such a foul mouth from someone who sell-proclaims superiority. I don't believe I've displayed any anger or rage, here. Usually save that for more appropriate moments Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.

From L8112
Date 16. July 2019, 06:14
Subject sup
Where can I get a list of molecules with special powers and abilities? CO2, creates energy, destroys they planet with hell fire. O3 reflects in only one direction, and created all life on this planet. The didn't teach this stuff in Chem 101, or maybe I missed those lectures. Guess you only get that kind of education at a Liberal Arts school...


Due to the fact that you are innumerate, and barley literate, you don't understand that the warming mechanism is due to burning 6^21 joules of energy over the last half century in the form of coal, oil and fossil fuels. This is thermodynamics 101, you burn something in one form (stored sunlight i.e. oil) and it is converted into thermal energy, energy is conserved. Because you are a low iq trump-ape you wear your ignorance like a badge. All of this is a big game show to you, and your leader is a former game show host.

https://www.inverse.com/article/57693-antarctica-worse-off-than-greenland-ice-melt-rapid-change-climate-crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/01/precipitous-fall-in-antarctic-sea-ice-revealed
https://news.mongabay.com/2019/07/arctic-in-free-fall-2019-sea-ice-volume-sinks-to-near-record-for-june/
http://theconversation.com/arctic-ice-loss-is-worrying-but-the-giant-stirring-in-the-south-could-be-even-worse-119822
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0179-y

Those are all from the last 3 days.

Now go ahead and spew your ignorant piss, but before you do that, I think I ought to tell you just you despised you have always been, and give you the accurate picture of your 'self', which you are bereft from comprehending--As a child, you were looked down upon by the other kids, even by the parents of the other children. Unattractive, perhaps, albeit, if attractive, treated different, not well. Less intelligent, incapacity to understand the other kids, what they were doing, thinking, saying. Only the knowledge that when they looked at you, that smirk, gave away; even to your incapacitated brain, the fact that they looked down upon you, as less than, ugly, I mean inside, the devolving to outwardly, less intelligent, cannot behave like them, because you lack the capacity to see the world the way they do. You never even understood what it is they saw. You only knew, as you know now, that you are less than, in every way; less intelligent, now less attractive, less educated, less capable, less 'money,' less physical ability, everything, less than, and looked down upon.

Your despair saved you by turning to anger, then, internal rage; a hatred for all homo sapiens, even extending to other species, you don't care; because you lack the capacity to do so. As a result of this despair, now acidicly spiraled down to internal rage, which you are powerless to climb out of by way of any achievement, because you are in fact less; and that is true – you are powerless to climb out of being garbage, and you are garbage, the entire world of people, whom you cannot even understand, has made it clear, even to your lack of comprehension, that you are, by definition, garbage.

Shattering back and forth inside your incapacitated physical brain, you lash out with your acidic mouth, crying and wailing in despair, which comes out as nasty shit, garbage. Just non-stop shit, garbage you are ↦ garbage out.

Oddly, you have noticed that no one has mutilated you as you open that garbage shit of an inert genetic monkey shit mouth; and wail. That is all the power you have, a mouth, the garbage of your wailing and crying, as nasty biochemical processes further eat your shit brain from the inside out. Even your dreams are filled with being trapped, isolated, singled out. Your dreams are some attempt by your incapacitated physical brain to cope with being put down, shoved down, where you belong, where you are.

So, I will explain it to you: The reason you have not been mutilated as a result of the garbage that is your mouth; is because they hear you, and they pity you.

Pity is why you are alive.

Did I hurt your feelings? turns out the holocene extinction is not a game show. If it helps you pick up the pieces of your annihilated psyche, do confide in your other anon-shitbrain friends.


atta boy, go seek pity for enforcing the holocene extinction, after all, this is evidence that you 'win' the debate. You were insulted, no, tore you to literal f**king pieces. That is an ad hominem attack! You win the debate! you win the game show!!!......,come on down, you get a brand new car!!!!!!

When you saw trump a few years back speaking your language (the language of primitive genetic monkey garbage) your face lit up with joy, "Finally someone gets me, oh dearest leader, lead me to the promised land of material wealth and status, just like you, because I am low in the monkey pecking order". Trump understood you, he spoke your language-that of primitve anger and hatred. He campaigned on hatred and fear as he is again doing. He offered your incapacitated brain all sorts of delusions about finally being 'made great', not america, the sales pitch is to make YOU great again, because you are that disgruntled with your 'self, you are less than in every conceivable way.
The proof is in watching the very fine people at trump rallies, they arent deplorables, they are a millimeter from full blown monkeys, yet due to their larger prefrontal cortex, masquerade as 'humans'...that is you.

This answers the question of why trump loves to fling his shit at other people.
That is what monkeys do for fun, they take their shit and throw it at each other.


Yeah, Harvey is such a hater.



I think people screw me over because they don't want to see someone willing to put out the effort that they won't.~James~
16-07-2019 17:06
IBdaMann
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HarveyH55 wrote:Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.


Into the Night and I had a discussion on IQ that I can no longer find. There is no way to measure one's "intelligence" or quantify it with a number. The idea is ludicrous.

... *or* ... we could roll with that concept and establish a scale in which the average chimpanzee's intelligence is a ten (10) and then rate humans relative to how they perform comparatively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJomdyjyvM

.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
16-07-2019 17:40
IBdaMann
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L8112 wrote:atta boy, go seek pity for enforcing the holocene extinction, after all, this is evidence that you 'win' the debate.

Enforcing the Holocene Extinction! L8112, Terminator was just a movie. It wasn't real. Neither was Matrix. You're pretty gullible, aren't you?

L8112 wrote: That is an ad hominem attack! You win the debate! you win the game show!!!......,come on down, you get a brand new car!!!!!!


HarveyH55 ... congratulations! You now have to pay $4,227 in taxes!



This is the new Marxist plot, by the way. Make auto manufacturers provide cars for free but make all recipients pay huge taxes to the government.

Then they'll do the same thing with healthcare. Oh wait, ...


L8112 wrote:... because I am low in the monkey pecking order".

Hey, if you can get a 10 on the new IQ scale, that's quite respectable.

L8112 wrote: This answers the question of why trump loves to fling his shit at other people.

... *or* ... we could use the Trump intelligence baseline. Trump = "intelligent enough to become a billionaire and to become President of the United States" which you refer to as "monkey intelligence."

So, how much money have you been smart enough to make?
What political office have you been smart enough to attain?

I ask only so we can gauge comparatively.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
16-07-2019 17:47
L8112
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.


Into the Night and I had a discussion on IQ that I can no longer find. There is no way to measure one's "intelligence" or quantify it with a number. The idea is ludicrous.

... *or* ... we could roll with that concept and establish a scale in which the average chimpanzee's intelligence is a ten (10) and then rate humans relative to how they perform comparatively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJomdyjyvM



.


Its ludicrous, yet, coincidentally, PhDs in math, physics, and engineering almost always have IQs over 130 (98th percentile). You are not in that region, so naturally you will dismiss it as having any merit, the old 'i am clueless therefore you are too'. In this case 'i am retarded therefore you are too'.

Intelligence is making connections of seemingly unrelated things, it is gleaning information from texts/or other sources, being able to penetrate into the more subtle layers and get the deeper understanding. This is obviously the case for academics, PhDs etc. which is why trumpies hate them. Low iq people look at, as an example, the quadratic formula, and their head spins around 360 degrees. They have no clue what it is or what it is used for, they cannot get the penetrative insight, their minds are scattered, hence they have low IQs.

IQ tests obviously vary and are not always culture specific, it is not an all-arbitor of intelligence, it is a measure. Its usefulness is seen in that a janitor has an average iq of 80, whereas a PhD in physics has an IQ near 140. But do tell me how we have 'no idea' about how to measure intelligence.
Edited on 16-07-2019 17:52
16-07-2019 18:15
GasGuzzler
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[quote]L8112 wrote: Intelligence is making connections of seemingly unrelated things

You mean like CO2 and temperature? Connect the dots and make connections. I think I'm catching on! How much does my IQ go up if I connect science deniers with climate scientists? Or hypocrites and the "kiss your ass goodbye we're all gonna fry" crowd?


I think people screw me over because they don't want to see someone willing to put out the effort that they won't.~James~
Edited on 16-07-2019 18:16
16-07-2019 18:30
IBdaMann
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GasGuzzler wrote:How much does my IQ go up if I connect science deniers with climate scientists? Or hypocrites and the "kiss your ass goodbye we're all gonna fry" crowd?

That was rather profound. Well done.

As a corollary, can we connect Democrats with dishonesty? ... connect Progressives with self-loathing and intolerance for society in general? ... connect Marxists with hatred for humanity? ... connect liberals with disdain for America? ... connect warmizombies with scientific illiteracy, mathematical incompetence and economics malpractice?

I bet there are even more!


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
16-07-2019 20:35
Into the Night
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L8112 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.


Into the Night and I had a discussion on IQ that I can no longer find. There is no way to measure one's "intelligence" or quantify it with a number. The idea is ludicrous.

... *or* ... we could roll with that concept and establish a scale in which the average chimpanzee's intelligence is a ten (10) and then rate humans relative to how they perform comparatively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJomdyjyvM



.


Its ludicrous, yet, coincidentally, PhDs in math, physics, and engineering almost always have IQs over 130 (98th percentile).

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
L8112 wrote:
You are not in that region,

YALIF. Argument from ignorance fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
so naturally you will dismiss it as having any merit,

IQ numbers have no merit or meaning whatsoever.
L8112 wrote:
the old 'i am clueless therefore you are too'. In this case 'i am retarded therefore you are too'.

Compositional error fallacy involving people as the class. Bigotry.
L8112 wrote:
Intelligence is making connections of seemingly unrelated things, it is gleaning information from texts/or other sources, being able to penetrate into the more subtle layers and get the deeper understanding.

Is this why you are making a shallow argument on justifying a meaningless number as a measurement of this?
L8112 wrote:
This is obviously the case for academics, PhDs etc. which is why trumpies hate them.

I guess you are illiterate. Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. I do not hate anyone, not even shallow people like you.
L8112 wrote:
Low iq people look at, as an example, the quadratic formula, and their head spins around 360 degrees. They have no clue what it is or what it is used for, they cannot get the penetrative insight, their minds are scattered, hence they have low IQs.

Again an error. 'IQ' is always capitalized, since it's an acronym. You really have a poor understanding of English, don't you? You also have a poor understanding of math. The quadratic equation is an equation, not a formula. Anyone that works with parabolas know what this equation means and how its used.
L8112 wrote:
IQ tests obviously vary and are not always culture specific, it is not an all-arbitor of intelligence, it is a measure.

It is not a measure. YOU are making it out to be an all-arbitor of intelligence, even defining 'intelligence' to support your arguments.
L8112 wrote:
Its usefulness

It has no usefulness.
L8112 wrote:
is seen in that a janitor has an average iq of 80, whereas a PhD in physics has an IQ near 140.

A janitor knows how to maintain pretty much everything in the building he is assigned to. Do you? Can you fix your car? Can you safely wire a house or building? Can you install the plumbing for building? Can you fix an aircraft?
What good is that 140 IQ? Did you know that there are some pretty dumb physicists out there?
L8112 wrote:
But do tell me how we have 'no idea' about how to measure intelligence.

You don't.


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16-07-2019 20:36
IBdaMann
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L8112 wrote: Its ludicrous, yet, coincidentally, PhDs in math, physics, and engineering almost always have IQs over 130 (98th percentile).

... are you admitting that they are all less intelligent than the chimp? Are you recognizing that any "test" that pretends to quantify intelligence is absurd on its face?

By the way, what would you estimate is my IQ? Less than a chimp's?

L8112 wrote: You are not in that region, so naturally you will dismiss it as having any merit, the old 'i am clueless therefore you are too'. In this case 'i am retarded therefore you are too'.

Have you yet learned what "projection" is? Hint: It is why you need to declare me "not a scientist."

L8112 wrote: This is obviously the case for academics, PhDs etc.

Absolutely incorrect. Intelligent people are good at what they do, they are competitive and they make a lot of money.

Those who can't ... teach, and focus on superficial credentials.

The best college courses are taught by people from industry who know what they are doing. If you can't get one of those then you have to settle for a greatly overpriced course of lesser quality taught by a full-time academic with no practical experience.


L8112 wrote: IQ tests obviously vary ...

If there were a valid IQ test, it would be standardized.

You say IQ tests vary.

What conclusion can you draw by applying logic 101?

L8112 wrote: Its usefulness is seen in that a janitor has an average iq of 80, whereas a PhD in physics has an IQ near 140.

So a Argentine physics PhD drops 60 IQ points when his country's economy tanks and he finds work as a janitor in the US.

So you believe the usefulness of an IQ test is in keeping on top of global economic situations?

L8112 wrote: But do tell me how we have 'no idea' about how to measure intelligence.

Sure. Neither you nor anyone else has any idea how to measure intelligence. Prove me wrong.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
16-07-2019 20:51
GasGuzzler
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Into the Night wrote:[quote]

A janitor knows how to maintain pretty much everything in the building he is assigned to. Do you? Can you fix your car? Can you safely wire a house or building? Can you install the plumbing for building? Can you fix an aircraft?
What good is that 140 IQ? Did you know that there are some pretty dumb physicists out there?


As I just finished fixing one air conditioner and moving on to the next, I was thinking the exact same thing. What if this clown called me to fix his AC? It would be real tempting to just take a shit on his evaporator coil and tell him I'm just too stupid to figure this out.



I think people screw me over because they don't want to see someone willing to put out the effort that they won't.~James~
16-07-2019 21:22
HarveyH55
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L8112 wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Just got a sequel. Sort of reminds of some of James' rants. Like any fortune teller, missed the mark considerably. Such a foul mouth from someone who sell-proclaims superiority. I don't believe I've displayed any anger or rage, here. Usually save that for more appropriate moments Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.

From L8112
Date 16. July 2019, 06:14
Subject sup
Where can I get a list of molecules with special powers and abilities? CO2, creates energy, destroys they planet with hell fire. O3 reflects in only one direction, and created all life on this planet. The didn't teach this stuff in Chem 101, or maybe I missed those lectures. Guess you only get that kind of education at a Liberal Arts school...


Due to the fact that you are innumerate, and barley literate, you don't understand that the warming mechanism is due to burning 6^21 joules of energy over the last half century in the form of coal, oil and fossil fuels. This is thermodynamics 101, you burn something in one form (stored sunlight i.e. oil) and it is converted into thermal energy, energy is conserved. Because you are a low iq trump-ape you wear your ignorance like a badge. All of this is a big game show to you, and your leader is a former game show host.

https://www.inverse.com/article/57693-antarctica-worse-off-than-greenland-ice-melt-rapid-change-climate-crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/01/precipitous-fall-in-antarctic-sea-ice-revealed
https://news.mongabay.com/2019/07/arctic-in-free-fall-2019-sea-ice-volume-sinks-to-near-record-for-june/
http://theconversation.com/arctic-ice-loss-is-worrying-but-the-giant-stirring-in-the-south-could-be-even-worse-119822
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0179-y

Those are all from the last 3 days.

Now go ahead and spew your ignorant piss, but before you do that, I think I ought to tell you just you despised you have always been, and give you the accurate picture of your 'self', which you are bereft from comprehending--As a child, you were looked down upon by the other kids, even by the parents of the other children. Unattractive, perhaps, albeit, if attractive, treated different, not well. Less intelligent, incapacity to understand the other kids, what they were doing, thinking, saying. Only the knowledge that when they looked at you, that smirk, gave away; even to your incapacitated brain, the fact that they looked down upon you, as less than, ugly, I mean inside, the devolving to outwardly, less intelligent, cannot behave like them, because you lack the capacity to see the world the way they do. You never even understood what it is they saw. You only knew, as you know now, that you are less than, in every way; less intelligent, now less attractive, less educated, less capable, less 'money,' less physical ability, everything, less than, and looked down upon.

Your despair saved you by turning to anger, then, internal rage; a hatred for all homo sapiens, even extending to other species, you don't care; because you lack the capacity to do so. As a result of this despair, now acidicly spiraled down to internal rage, which you are powerless to climb out of by way of any achievement, because you are in fact less; and that is true – you are powerless to climb out of being garbage, and you are garbage, the entire world of people, whom you cannot even understand, has made it clear, even to your lack of comprehension, that you are, by definition, garbage.

Shattering back and forth inside your incapacitated physical brain, you lash out with your acidic mouth, crying and wailing in despair, which comes out as nasty shit, garbage. Just non-stop shit, garbage you are ↦ garbage out.

Oddly, you have noticed that no one has mutilated you as you open that garbage shit of an inert genetic monkey shit mouth; and wail. That is all the power you have, a mouth, the garbage of your wailing and crying, as nasty biochemical processes further eat your shit brain from the inside out. Even your dreams are filled with being trapped, isolated, singled out. Your dreams are some attempt by your incapacitated physical brain to cope with being put down, shoved down, where you belong, where you are.

So, I will explain it to you: The reason you have not been mutilated as a result of the garbage that is your mouth; is because they hear you, and they pity you.

Pity is why you are alive.

Did I hurt your feelings? turns out the holocene extinction is not a game show. If it helps you pick up the pieces of your annihilated psyche, do confide in your other anon-shitbrain friends.


atta boy, go seek pity for enforcing the holocene extinction, after all, this is evidence that you 'win' the debate. You were insulted, no, tore you to literal f**king pieces. That is an ad hominem attack! You win the debate! you win the game show!!!......,come on down, you get a brand new car!!!!!!

When you saw trump a few years back speaking your language (the language of primitive genetic monkey garbage) your face lit up with joy, "Finally someone gets me, oh dearest leader, lead me to the promised land of material wealth and status, just like you, because I am low in the monkey pecking order". Trump understood you, he spoke your language-that of primitve anger and hatred. He campaigned on hatred and fear as he is again doing. He offered your incapacitated brain all sorts of delusions about finally being 'made great', not america, the sales pitch is to make YOU great again, because you are that disgruntled with your 'self, you are less than in every conceivable way.
The proof is in watching the very fine people at trump rallies, they arent deplorables, they are a millimeter from full blown monkeys, yet due to their larger prefrontal cortex, masquerade as 'humans'...that is you.

This answers the question of why trump loves to fling his shit at other people.
That is what monkeys do for fun, they take their shit and throw it at each other.


Why not spare me the effort of copy &paste, and just post your thoughts and opinions publicly it's a forum. I'm not that easily offended, only words, which hold little power, from an anonymous source. Really more telling, about your thought process, and limitations.

Trump... I don't really like the man, but do respect the office, and had hopes he could turn our government around to operate more like a business, and less like a charity. Pretty sure he will win again in 2020, his opposition already dredged up all the muck they could sling at him, and he's still sitting well. Not only do I think he's going to win, but the election will do a great deal toward draining that swap, like he promised. 23 democrat candidates, will eventual have to turn on each other, dig up the dirt, to thin out the competition in the primaries. They will damage themselves, and the party in general, by the time the smoke clears, and they pick one, to run against Trump. I believe the Clintons will step in, hoping to salvage something of the party, which is key to their own power and profit. Their involvement, will re-open a few matters, that they should be grateful, they slipped out from under.

Anyway, you aren't doing me any favors, sending your rants privately, just don't care that much. More of an entertainment, why not share with everyone else? I've got nothing to hide, nothing to fear...
16-07-2019 22:48
Into the Night
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Into the Night wrote:[quote]

A janitor knows how to maintain pretty much everything in the building he is assigned to. Do you? Can you fix your car? Can you safely wire a house or building? Can you install the plumbing for building? Can you fix an aircraft?
What good is that 140 IQ? Did you know that there are some pretty dumb physicists out there?


As I just finished fixing one air conditioner and moving on to the next, I was thinking the exact same thing. What if this clown called me to fix his AC? It would be real tempting to just take a shit on his evaporator coil and tell him I'm just too stupid to figure this out.


Make sure the system fan is locked on afterwards!



The Parrot Killer
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16-07-2019 22:51
GasGuzzler
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Yup, wired direct to the service line...only the power company be can shut it down.

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17-07-2019 00:21
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Into the Night wrote:
L8112 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.


Into the Night and I had a discussion on IQ that I can no longer find. There is no way to measure one's "intelligence" or quantify it with a number. The idea is ludicrous.

... *or* ... we could roll with that concept and establish a scale in which the average chimpanzee's intelligence is a ten (10) and then rate humans relative to how they perform comparatively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJomdyjyvM



.


Its ludicrous, yet, coincidentally, PhDs in math, physics, and engineering almost always have IQs over 130 (98th percentile).

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
L8112 wrote:
You are not in that region,

YALIF. Argument from ignorance fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
so naturally you will dismiss it as having any merit,

IQ numbers have no merit or meaning whatsoever.
L8112 wrote:
the old 'i am clueless therefore you are too'. In this case 'i am retarded therefore you are too'.

Compositional error fallacy involving people as the class. Bigotry.
L8112 wrote:
Intelligence is making connections of seemingly unrelated things, it is gleaning information from texts/or other sources, being able to penetrate into the more subtle layers and get the deeper understanding.

Is this why you are making a shallow argument on justifying a meaningless number as a measurement of this?
L8112 wrote:
This is obviously the case for academics, PhDs etc. which is why trumpies hate them.

I guess you are illiterate. Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. I do not hate anyone, not even shallow people like you.
L8112 wrote:
Low iq people look at, as an example, the quadratic formula, and their head spins around 360 degrees. They have no clue what it is or what it is used for, they cannot get the penetrative insight, their minds are scattered, hence they have low IQs.

Again an error. 'IQ' is always capitalized, since it's an acronym. You really have a poor understanding of English, don't you? You also have a poor understanding of math. The quadratic equation is an equation, not a formula. Anyone that works with parabolas know what this equation means and how its used.
L8112 wrote:
IQ tests obviously vary and are not always culture specific, it is not an all-arbitor of intelligence, it is a measure.

It is not a measure. YOU are making it out to be an all-arbitor of intelligence, even defining 'intelligence' to support your arguments.
L8112 wrote:
Its usefulness

It has no usefulness.
L8112 wrote:
is seen in that a janitor has an average iq of 80, whereas a PhD in physics has an IQ near 140.

A janitor knows how to maintain pretty much everything in the building he is assigned to. Do you? Can you fix your car? Can you safely wire a house or building? Can you install the plumbing for building? Can you fix an aircraft?
What good is that 140 IQ? Did you know that there are some pretty dumb physicists out there?
L8112 wrote:
But do tell me how we have 'no idea' about how to measure intelligence.

You don't.

To be clear, I am not actually debating anything with you, as I've already said. The only reason Im here is morbid curiosity, in a sense, just studying your behavior.
So excellent, thank you for being my (unwilling) subject. I do not expect you to read any of this, I am just throwing you another bone to see how you will respond. None of this is within your scope, similar to the monkeys in 2001: a space odyssey, who touch the obelisk and become 'aware'. Now the question is whether you will take the bone Im throwing you, and like the monkeys in 2001, proceed to bash each others heads in-another favorite monkey passtime, along with shit-throwing. Or entertain the inconceivable notion that there are things you can't conceive of.

Perhaps I should explain what intelligence is not.
Intelligence is not destroying the planet you evolved from and watching indifferently.
Intelligence is not 'winning debates' in anonymous online forums.

Hence why I don't care what you 'believe', nor am I trying to convince you.

You don't believe in climate change or environmental destruction because you don't care, as evidenced in your mantra 'The Parrot Killer', rendering any rebuttal non sequitur. You provide no links or sources, just stating your opinion, which is always contrary to the person who you perceive is attacking your beliefs. To you, everything is a game show, wherein you 'win' things. You 'win' a debate, you 'win' a bonus for being a good capitalist slave, which is why king capitalist trump can't stop 'winning', despite doing the exact opposite 24/7. If you aren't a selfish **** and make a positive impact on a large number of people, you 'win' a Nobel peace prize.

A growth in gdp by definition means an increased rate of destruction of the natural world. Increased gdp implies increased consumption, which requires raw materials from the environment, yet even this obvious fact you will deny because you would be conceding ground, and like trump, something you will not do. To have your beliefs threatened is no different than to be threatened in the physical sense. It is fight or flight, survival of the fittest, only here, you are not the fittest and are going to go extinct. Evolution, or rather, de-evolution in action.

Definition of cognitive dissonance copied from wiki (yes, that is your que to dismiss it): In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. This discomfort is triggered by a situation in which a person's belief clashes with new evidence perceived by the person. When confronted with facts that contradict beliefs, ideals, and values, people will try to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.[1][2]

The word 'fact' is also another term that you will morph into whatever form suits you, like you were just trying to do with intelligence. Which I already redefined into a broader definition which, while not defining all the properties of 'intelligence' rules these ones out by negation: Intelligence is not destroying the planet you evolved from and watching indifferently.
Intelligence is not 'winning debates' in anonymous online forums.

As this is axiom, and you fulfill neither condition, then this axiom demands you are the opposite-unintelligent.

You see an article that says arctic sea ice volume is the lowest on record, this immediately conflicts with your believe that climate change is a hoax, your confusion lying in the mechanism. Despite the cause, the outward effects already having been measured- 3 trillion tonnes of ice melt in antarctica since the 90s, the arctic currently at 1.9 million square kilometers below the 1981-2010 average. You ignore both things and say "NO!!!", cite no articles/publications from credible institutions, because in order to make your cognitive dissonance complete any such institutions that conflict with your 'belief' must be wrong.

All the while as you argue and debate, you are approaching the ground at 9.81 meters per second, per second, each passing second you spend debating the ground is approaching at a velocity faster than the previous moment and you say "I don't feel like Im falling", you do this until.....SPLAT.

Now for your personalty traits: that would be characterized as Narcissistic personality disorder, here is a list from PT (que to dismiss):

1. Frequent Lies and Exaggerations

2. Rarely Admit Flaws and Are Highly Aggressive When Criticized

3. False Image Projection

4. Rule Breaking and Boundary Violation

5. Emotional Invalidation and Coercion

6. Manipulation: The Use or Control of Others as an Extension of Oneself


Now applying this to you. You expect that everyone treats you 'kindly', even in the face of something that has a magnitude (a global extinction event) which is beyond the scope of your tiny little ego. When reminded of how hideous a person you are, in the same fashion as you dismiss all beliefs that conflict with your worldview, will tell me "No you are the hideous person", for having pointed out that defending the rape of the planet is a hideous thing, and makes you sub human scum.

In order to make sure you are on equal footing with anyone who is better than you. You believe that you know everything, hence why you are obstinate, self assertive, will dismiss NASA (rocket scientists) because they have the intelligence and means to study climate change. And so you try to rewrite who is/isn't intelligent to suite your beliefs. You certainly don't like an authority figure who is also telling you to change your beliefs, so both are dismissed. Your belief system that you are unique, superior (to people who actually study this topic, have degrees etc.) is plainly shown here. Now, you will try to flip this around on me and say I do the same, yet I have already provided dozens of links to credible sources in other posts, not from random blogs, unverified sources of the vast minority, and adjust my view on this topic accordingly. You don't because you are a narcissist.

You lay great emphasis on needing to be perceived as if you know what you are talking about, 'win' arguments, and get respect from your peers. This is very important for primates. Being admired due to an outward appearance you put on (similar to trump pretending to be smart, strong, 'stable genius' etc.) because that puts you at the top of the perceived social pecking order.

The demand that I have to cave in to your keyboard crap, because you get a thrill out of it, when you don't even know if you are right/wrong...but that was never the point. The point is to make others feel as you do-hated and hateful.

And so you will indefinitely cheer on the exploitation and collapse of the natural world as if its a joke, claiming it isn't even happening, maybe knowing it is, maybe not. But as I said, just like Donnie, truth is never the end goal. The goal is to see those who cognitively 'believe' differently than you suffer, and make them feel as hated as you are.

Just like Trump (who is the perfect archetype here), you have no conception of anyone else 'out there', for example, have no conception that I am an actual living being, not a means for you to get your online troll 'dopamine' hit. If this conversation was in real life, would not occur, as you are too timid.
Continuing to the trump comparison, as he is the gold standard, trump will not empathize with anyone who isn't on team trump, any criticisms are met with vitriol. Similarly, you cannot, will not, concede any ground on anything.

Knowing what a scheming, jealous, hate filled homo sap you are, as you live it every single day, you then extend that to everyone else. You are disingenuous, deceptive towards others, self deceptive (lying to yourself about your own abilities and perceived social position), so naturally, being these are your motivating principles, everyone must be the same as you.

When confronted with the fact of the above picture as being true, you will take the painstaking time to dissect each sentence and paragraph, and re-engineer and misconstrue it into a form that suits your beliefs. Thus, unknowingly, confirming every little thing I said.

Truth (capital T) exists, and it has an interesting feature, that it stands the principle of non-contradiction. When the spotlight of Truth is shone on those who continuously speak falsehoods, falsehood by definition being unreal, will lash out and try to to attack anybody who tells them the Truth of their condition. Unfortunately Truth when compared to untruth is like light compared to darkness, darkness cannot shine into light, as 'to shine' is only a characteristic of light. Similarly Truth is immutable, immovable, not subject to your every whim, fancy, disbelief or feeling.
The problem here is, you can't even conceive of these things. Tying back into my first paragraph: to admit this is an inconceivable notion, and you won't. Once again, inadvertently, confirming the inconceivable.
Edited on 17-07-2019 00:50
17-07-2019 00:27
Into the Night
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Yup, wired direct to the service line...only the power company be can shut it down.


And the usual moisture on the evaporator will keep the limited resource you provided lasting longer!.



The Parrot Killer
17-07-2019 01:55
Into the Night
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L8112 wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
L8112 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.


Into the Night and I had a discussion on IQ that I can no longer find. There is no way to measure one's "intelligence" or quantify it with a number. The idea is ludicrous.

... *or* ... we could roll with that concept and establish a scale in which the average chimpanzee's intelligence is a ten (10) and then rate humans relative to how they perform comparatively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJomdyjyvM



.


Its ludicrous, yet, coincidentally, PhDs in math, physics, and engineering almost always have IQs over 130 (98th percentile).

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
L8112 wrote:
You are not in that region,

YALIF. Argument from ignorance fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
so naturally you will dismiss it as having any merit,

IQ numbers have no merit or meaning whatsoever.
L8112 wrote:
the old 'i am clueless therefore you are too'. In this case 'i am retarded therefore you are too'.

Compositional error fallacy involving people as the class. Bigotry.
L8112 wrote:
Intelligence is making connections of seemingly unrelated things, it is gleaning information from texts/or other sources, being able to penetrate into the more subtle layers and get the deeper understanding.

Is this why you are making a shallow argument on justifying a meaningless number as a measurement of this?
L8112 wrote:
This is obviously the case for academics, PhDs etc. which is why trumpies hate them.

I guess you are illiterate. Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. I do not hate anyone, not even shallow people like you.
L8112 wrote:
Low iq people look at, as an example, the quadratic formula, and their head spins around 360 degrees. They have no clue what it is or what it is used for, they cannot get the penetrative insight, their minds are scattered, hence they have low IQs.

Again an error. 'IQ' is always capitalized, since it's an acronym. You really have a poor understanding of English, don't you? You also have a poor understanding of math. The quadratic equation is an equation, not a formula. Anyone that works with parabolas know what this equation means and how its used.
L8112 wrote:
IQ tests obviously vary and are not always culture specific, it is not an all-arbitor of intelligence, it is a measure.

It is not a measure. YOU are making it out to be an all-arbitor of intelligence, even defining 'intelligence' to support your arguments.
L8112 wrote:
Its usefulness

It has no usefulness.
L8112 wrote:
is seen in that a janitor has an average iq of 80, whereas a PhD in physics has an IQ near 140.

A janitor knows how to maintain pretty much everything in the building he is assigned to. Do you? Can you fix your car? Can you safely wire a house or building? Can you install the plumbing for building? Can you fix an aircraft?
What good is that 140 IQ? Did you know that there are some pretty dumb physicists out there?
L8112 wrote:
But do tell me how we have 'no idea' about how to measure intelligence.

You don't.




To be clear, I am not actually debating anything with you, as I've already said. The only reason Im here is morbid curiosity, in a sense, just studying your behavior.

So you're here to troll. Not the sign of one claiming intelligence or a high IQ.
L8112 wrote:
So excellent, thank you for being my (unwilling) subject. I do not expect you to read any of this, I am just throwing you another bone to see how you will respond. None of this is within your scope, similar to the monkeys in 2001: a space odyssey, who touch the obelisk and become 'aware'. Now the question is whether you will take the bone Im throwing you, and like the monkeys in 2001, proceed to bash each others heads in-another favorite monkey passtime, along with shit-throwing. Or entertain the inconceivable notion that there are things you can't conceive of.

Oddly enough, I read every part of it. Personally, I abhor your bigotry.
L8112 wrote:
Perhaps I should explain what intelligence is not.
Intelligence is not destroying the planet you evolved from and watching indifferently.
Intelligence is not 'winning debates' in anonymous online forums.

I am not destroying the planet. It's still here.
I am not out to win any debate. I don't keep score. Only shallow people like you do that.
L8112 wrote:
Hence why I don't care what you 'believe', nor am I trying to convince you.

Lie.
L8112 wrote:
You don't believe in climate change because you don't care.

Define 'climate change'. Why should I care about a meaningless word?
L8112 wrote:
You provide no links or sources,

I don't need to. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
just stating your opinion,

Not an opinion. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
which is always contrary to the person who you perceive is attacking your beliefs.

Not a belief. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
To you, everything is a game show, wherein you 'win' things.

I am not keeping score. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
You 'win' a debate,

I am not keeping score. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
you 'win' a bonus for being a good capitalist slave,

Capitalism is not slavery. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
which is why king capitalist trump can't stop 'winning',

Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
despite doing the exact opposite 24/7.

Trump is not a socialist. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
If you aren't a selfish **** and make a positive impact on a large number of people, you 'win' a Nobel peace prize.

I don't give a shit about the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm more entertained by the Ignoble Prize. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
A growth in gdp by definition means an increased rate of destruction of the natural world.

GDP is an acronym. It is capitalized. It means Gross Domestic Product. It has nothing to do with the destruction of anything. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Increased gdp implies increased consumption, which requires raw materials from the environment, yet even this obvious fact you will deny because you would be conceding ground, and like trump, something you will not do.

GDP is an acronym. It is fully capitalized. Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. What ground do you think is being conceded? Void argument fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
o have your beliefs threatened

Mathematics and science are not beliefs. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
is no different than to be threatened in the physical sense.

I am not threatened by you at all. You are simply making no sense. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
It is fight or flight,

I know how to both fly and fight. You talk big, but you probably don't know much of either.
L8112 wrote:
survival of the fittest,

Guess I'm fit! I'm surviving!
L8112 wrote:
only here, you are not the fittest

I'm here. I'm surviving. I must be fit enough.
L8112 wrote:
and are going to go extinct.

Did you know that no one gets out this life alive? Valar Morghullis.
L8112 wrote:
Evolution, or rather, de-evolution in action.

I assure you, I have not grown any tentacles or anything.
L8112 wrote:
Definition of cognitive dissonance copied from wiki (yes, that is your que to dismiss it):
...deleted Wiki definition of 'cognitive dissonance'...

Wikipedia discarded on sight. Useless psychoquackery from you follows as you use this buzzword later.
L8112 wrote:
The word 'fact' is also another term that you will morph into whatever form suits you,

The word 'fact' has a single meaning. It is simply an assumed predicate. It saves us from having to declare the predicate every time in our arguments.
L8112 wrote:
like you were just trying to do with intelligence.

No, YOU are trying to do this with intelligence. I am not trying to define 'intelligence'. YOU are. Inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
Which I already redefined into a broader definition which,

Redefining words is itself a fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
while not defining all the properties of 'intelligence' rules these ones out by negation: Intelligence is not destroying the planet you evolved from and watching indifferently.
Intelligence is not 'winning debates' in anonymous online forums.

Argument by repetition fallacy. You already said this.
L8112 wrote:
As this is axiom,

No. Intelligence is not a closed functional system. There are no axioms in open functional systems. Buzzword fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
and you fulfill neither condition,

You already said this. Argument by repetition.
L8112 wrote:
then this axiom

There are no axioms in an open functional system.
L8112 wrote:
demands you are the opposite-unintelligent.

YALIF.
L8112 wrote:
You see an article that says arctic sea ice volume is the lowest on record,

And I don't believe it. It is not possible to measure the volume of ice in the Arctic sea.
L8112 wrote:
this immediately conflicts with your believe that climate change is a hoax,

Define 'climate change'. Attempting to predict dire prophecies based on an undefined word is a hoax. It is also a void argument fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
your confusion lying in the mechanism.

What mechanism? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Despite the cause,

What cause? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
the outward effects already having been measured

What effect? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
- 3 trillion tonnes of ice melt in antarctica since the 90s,

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making numbers up again. It is not possible to measure the volume of ice in Antarctica.
L8112 wrote:
the arctic currently at 1.9 million square kilometers below the 1981-2010 average.

The Arctic winter ice extent for the Winter of 2018 is higher than it was for the winter of 2017. Both are higher than 2010. In 2004, the Antarctic saw the largest winter ice extent EVER RECORDED. This data can be found at the Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, CO.

It says you're a liar, L8112.
L8112 wrote:
You ignore both things and say "NO!!!", cite no articles/publications from credible institutions,

The Snow and Ice Data Center is a credible institution. It is operated by the University of Colorado and even funded from federal funding.
L8112 wrote:
because in order to make your cognitive dissonance complete any such institutions that conflict with your 'belief' must be wrong.

Psychoquackery. Buzzword fallacy. Argument of the stone fallacy. Void authority fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
All the while as you argue and debate, you are approaching the ground at 9.81 meters per second, per second, each passing second you spend debating the ground is approaching at a velocity faster than the previous moment and you say "I don't feel like Im falling", you do this until.....SPLAT.

I'm not falling, dumbass.
L8112 wrote:
Now for your personalty traits: that would be characterized as Narcissistic personality disorder, here is a list from PT (que to dismiss):

Psychoquackery is hereby dismissed.
L8112 wrote:
1. Frequent Lies and Exaggerations

Okay...that's you.
L8112 wrote:
2. Rarely Admit Flaws and Are Highly Aggressive When Criticized

Okay...that's you.
L8112 wrote:
3. False Image Projection

Okay...that's you. That's also known as an inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
4. Rule Breaking and Boundary Violation

BS. Every innovative thing that has happened to bring you cheap computers, cheap cars, plentiful food, plentiful water, clean air and water, has been by 'breaking the rules and exceeding previous boundaries'.
L8112 wrote:
5. Emotional Invalidation and Coercion

I am not coercing anyone. I could care less what they think of me.
L8112 wrote:
6. Manipulation: The Use or Control of Others as an Extension of Oneself

I am not trying to control others. YOU, on the other hand, ARE.
L8112 wrote:
Now applying this to you.

Inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
You expect that everyone treats you 'kindly',

Not in the least. I know what kind of mindless and stupid people I am often responding to.
L8112 wrote:
even in the face of something that has a magnitude (a global extinction event)

What 'global extinction event'? Are you seeing something in your Holy Entrails?
L8112 wrote:
which is beyond the scope of your tiny little ego.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that has the tiny little ego that is based on a meaningless number called an IQ.
L8112 wrote:
When reminded of how hideous a person you are, in the same fashion as you dismiss all beliefs that conflict with your worldview, will tell me "No you are the hideous person", for having pointed out that defending the rape of the planet is a hideous thing, and makes you sub human scum.

YALIF.
L8112 wrote:
In order to make sure you are on equal footing with anyone who is better than you.

I don't seek equal footing with anyone. BTW, when are you going to define 'climate change'?
L8112 wrote:
You believe that you know everything,

I know a lot. I know, for example, that you have yet to define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
hence why you are obstinate,

Inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
self assertive,

Thank you. I like to think so.
L8112 wrote:
will dismiss NASA (rocket scientists)

NASA isn't rocket scientists. They are a government agency. They commission others to build rockets for them. Private companies. Companies YOU despise, and built by people YOU despise.
L8112 wrote:
because they have the intelligence

Intelligence is not exclusive to NASA. Divisional error fallacy. Your implied view that no one else has intelligence is a compositional error fallacy involving people as the class. Bigotry.
L8112 wrote:
and means to study climate change.

Define 'climate change'. You can't study what you can't define.
L8112 wrote:
And so you are try to rewrite who is/isn't intelligent to suite your beliefs.

Inversion fallacy. You just did EXACTLY that by bringing up NASA as an example of 'superior' intelligence.
L8112 wrote:
You certainly don't like an authority figure who is also telling you to change your beliefs, so both are dismissed.

NASA is not an authority over me. I do not work for NASA. They instead buy products from me. I tell them how to use those products.
L8112 wrote:
Your belief system that you are unique, superior (to people who actually study this topic, have degrees etc.) is plainly shown here.

What topic? Climate change? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Now, you will try to flip this around on me and say I do the same,

No. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
yet I have already provided dozens of links to credible sources in other posts,

They are not credible if they do not define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
not from random blogs,

Have you ever found a random blog that defines 'climate change'?
L8112 wrote:
unverified sources of the vast minority,

You mean like Wikipedia? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
and adjust my view on this topic accordingly.

Your only view seems to be one of snobbery. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
You don't because you are a narcissist.

Inversion fallacy. Snobs are narcissists.
L8112 wrote:
You lay great emphasis on needing to be perceived as if you know what you are talking about, 'win' arguments, and get respect from your peers.

I don't need peers. I am not keeping score. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
This is very important for primates. Being admired due to an outward appearance you put on (similar to trump pretending to be smart, strong, 'stable genius' etc.) because that puts you at the top of the perceived social pecking order.

Pecking orders are about chickens, not primates. Guess you don't know anything about ranching either.
L8112 wrote:
The demand that I have to cave in to your keyboard crap, because you get a thrill out of it, when you don't even know if you are right/wrong...but that was never the point. The point is to make others feel as you do-hated and hateful.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that the bigot here. It is YOU that is hateful here. It is YOU that is making fallacy after fallacy here. It is YOU that is shallow enough to claim IQ actually means anything. It is YOU that is typing keyboard crap. Define 'climate change'.
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And so you will indefinitely cheer on the exploitation and collapse of the natural world as if its a joke, claiming it isn't even happening, maybe knowing it is, maybe not. But as I said, just like Donnie, truth is never the end goal. The goal is to see those who cognitively 'believe' differently than you suffer, and make them feel as hated as you are.

The natural world is not collapsing. Define 'climate change'.
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Just like Trump (who is the perfect archetype here), you have no conception of anyone else 'out there', for example, have no conception that I am an actual living being, not a means for you to get your online troll 'dopamine' hit. If this conversation was in real life, would not occur, as you are too timid.

This conversation IS in real life, dumbass.
L8112 wrote:
Continuing to the trump comparison,

Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
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as he is the gold standard,

Of what? Capitalism? No. Trump did not define capitalism. Capitalism existed LONG before Trump! Trump is a capitalist though.
L8112 wrote:
trump

Proper noun. It's capitalized. It's 'Trump'. Donald Trump. The President of the United States. A successful real estate investor. Trump is a capitalist.
L8112 wrote:
will not empathize with anyone who isn't on team trump,

Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Team Trump is also a proper noun. I am not on his team. I am not holding Cabinet office.
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any criticisms are met with vitriol.

Nah. Trump is just playing games with your brain for entertainment purposes. You're losing.
L8112 wrote:
Similarly, you cannot, will not, concede any ground on anything.

I have no need to. Assertion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
Knowing what a scheming, jealous, hate filled homo sap you are, as you live it every single day, you then extend that to everyone else. You are disingenuous, deceptive towards others, self deceptive (lying to yourself about your own abilities and perceived social position), so naturally, being these are your motivating principles, everyone must be the same as you.

YALIF.
L8112 wrote:
When confronted with the fact of the above picture as being true, you will take the painstaking time to dissect each sentence and paragraph, and re-engineer and misconstrue it into a form that suits your beliefs.

No, I take the time because you are trying to present so many arguments. I separate out each argument or fallacy.
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Thus, unknowingly, confirming every little thing I said.

Redefinition fallacy (argument<->confirmation). Psychoquackery.
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Truth (capital T) exists,

Only in religions.
L8112 wrote:
and it has an interesting feature, that it stands the principle of non-contradiction.

Circular argument fallacy. Now you are describing a fundamentalist style religion.
L8112 wrote:
When the spotlight of Truth is shone on those who continuously speak falsehoods,

I abhor your religion. I am the Great Satan for your religion. Banish me. See how well it works.
L8112 wrote:
falsehood by definition being unreal,

Buzzword fallacy. Define 'real'. I know this definition. Let's see if you do. Hint: it has nothing to do with True or False or lies.
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will lash out and try to to attack anybody who tells them the Truth of their condition.

I abhor your religion. 'Nuff said.
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Unfortunately Truth when compared to untruth is like light compared to darkness,

You cannot save me. I am the Great Satan of your fundamentalist religion.
BTW, there is no such thing as 'darkness'. There is only light, or the lack of it.
L8112 wrote:
darkness cannot shine into light, as 'to shine' is only a characteristic of light.

About the only thing you've got right so far.
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Similarly Truth is immutable, immovable, not subject to your every whim, fancy, disbelief or feeling.

Circular argument fallacy. Fundamentalism.
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The problem here is, you can't even conceive of these things.

No, I just don't agree with your Truth.
L8112 wrote:
Tying back into my first paragraph: to admit this is an inconceivable notion, and you won't.

It's perfectly conceivable. You are pushing a fundamentalist religion. The Church of Global Warming, in fact.
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Once again, inadvertently, confirming the inconceivable.

Define 'climate change'.


The Parrot Killer
17-07-2019 03:21
HarveyH55
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IQ is misrepresented, misunderstood, doesn't really mean a whole lot. It's a measure of your capacity to learn and solve problems. Doesn't mean everyone with a high IQ is smart, or even functional in everything. Still have to work at it, read some books, get out and experience life a little. The standard IQ test is broken down in sections. Most people do better in some, poorly in others. Somebody claims an IQ of 135, I wonder for which part. Might be really good at math, but not so good in language and communication (filthy vocabulary). I figure I'm at least average. I have no problems learning things, with going to school, or getting someone to teach me. Don't have a problem fixing things, that I've never work with before. If I take it apart, I can always put it back together, usually spot the broken part. Not usually as easy to fix something, that somebody else tore apart (little brother). I could be just average, and studied things more, partied less.
17-07-2019 06:06
L8112
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Into the Night wrote:
L8112 wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
L8112 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Guess I'm lucky not to be of excessively high IQ, seems many of those who claim that title, have some serious anger issues, little unstable.


Into the Night and I had a discussion on IQ that I can no longer find. There is no way to measure one's "intelligence" or quantify it with a number. The idea is ludicrous.

... *or* ... we could roll with that concept and establish a scale in which the average chimpanzee's intelligence is a ten (10) and then rate humans relative to how they perform comparatively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJomdyjyvM



.


Its ludicrous, yet, coincidentally, PhDs in math, physics, and engineering almost always have IQs over 130 (98th percentile).

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
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You are not in that region,

YALIF. Argument from ignorance fallacy.
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so naturally you will dismiss it as having any merit,

IQ numbers have no merit or meaning whatsoever.
L8112 wrote:
the old 'i am clueless therefore you are too'. In this case 'i am retarded therefore you are too'.

Compositional error fallacy involving people as the class. Bigotry.
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Intelligence is making connections of seemingly unrelated things, it is gleaning information from texts/or other sources, being able to penetrate into the more subtle layers and get the deeper understanding.

Is this why you are making a shallow argument on justifying a meaningless number as a measurement of this?
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This is obviously the case for academics, PhDs etc. which is why trumpies hate them.

I guess you are illiterate. Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. I do not hate anyone, not even shallow people like you.
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Low iq people look at, as an example, the quadratic formula, and their head spins around 360 degrees. They have no clue what it is or what it is used for, they cannot get the penetrative insight, their minds are scattered, hence they have low IQs.

Again an error. 'IQ' is always capitalized, since it's an acronym. You really have a poor understanding of English, don't you? You also have a poor understanding of math. The quadratic equation is an equation, not a formula. Anyone that works with parabolas know what this equation means and how its used.
L8112 wrote:
IQ tests obviously vary and are not always culture specific, it is not an all-arbitor of intelligence, it is a measure.

It is not a measure. YOU are making it out to be an all-arbitor of intelligence, even defining 'intelligence' to support your arguments.
L8112 wrote:
Its usefulness

It has no usefulness.
L8112 wrote:
is seen in that a janitor has an average iq of 80, whereas a PhD in physics has an IQ near 140.

A janitor knows how to maintain pretty much everything in the building he is assigned to. Do you? Can you fix your car? Can you safely wire a house or building? Can you install the plumbing for building? Can you fix an aircraft?
What good is that 140 IQ? Did you know that there are some pretty dumb physicists out there?
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But do tell me how we have 'no idea' about how to measure intelligence.

You don't.




To be clear, I am not actually debating anything with you, as I've already said. The only reason Im here is morbid curiosity, in a sense, just studying your behavior.

So you're here to troll. Not the sign of one claiming intelligence or a high IQ.
L8112 wrote:
So excellent, thank you for being my (unwilling) subject. I do not expect you to read any of this, I am just throwing you another bone to see how you will respond. None of this is within your scope, similar to the monkeys in 2001: a space odyssey, who touch the obelisk and become 'aware'. Now the question is whether you will take the bone Im throwing you, and like the monkeys in 2001, proceed to bash each others heads in-another favorite monkey passtime, along with shit-throwing. Or entertain the inconceivable notion that there are things you can't conceive of.

Oddly enough, I read every part of it. Personally, I abhor your bigotry.
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Perhaps I should explain what intelligence is not.
Intelligence is not destroying the planet you evolved from and watching indifferently.
Intelligence is not 'winning debates' in anonymous online forums.

I am not destroying the planet. It's still here.
I am not out to win any debate. I don't keep score. Only shallow people like you do that.
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Hence why I don't care what you 'believe', nor am I trying to convince you.

Lie.
L8112 wrote:
You don't believe in climate change because you don't care.

Define 'climate change'. Why should I care about a meaningless word?
L8112 wrote:
You provide no links or sources,

I don't need to. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
just stating your opinion,

Not an opinion. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
which is always contrary to the person who you perceive is attacking your beliefs.

Not a belief. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
To you, everything is a game show, wherein you 'win' things.

I am not keeping score. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
You 'win' a debate,

I am not keeping score. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
you 'win' a bonus for being a good capitalist slave,

Capitalism is not slavery. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
which is why king capitalist trump can't stop 'winning',

Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
despite doing the exact opposite 24/7.

Trump is not a socialist. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
If you aren't a selfish **** and make a positive impact on a large number of people, you 'win' a Nobel peace prize.

I don't give a shit about the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm more entertained by the Ignoble Prize. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
A growth in gdp by definition means an increased rate of destruction of the natural world.

GDP is an acronym. It is capitalized. It means Gross Domestic Product. It has nothing to do with the destruction of anything. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Increased gdp implies increased consumption, which requires raw materials from the environment, yet even this obvious fact you will deny because you would be conceding ground, and like trump, something you will not do.

GDP is an acronym. It is fully capitalized. Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. What ground do you think is being conceded? Void argument fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
o have your beliefs threatened

Mathematics and science are not beliefs. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
is no different than to be threatened in the physical sense.

I am not threatened by you at all. You are simply making no sense. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
It is fight or flight,

I know how to both fly and fight. You talk big, but you probably don't know much of either.
L8112 wrote:
survival of the fittest,

Guess I'm fit! I'm surviving!
L8112 wrote:
only here, you are not the fittest

I'm here. I'm surviving. I must be fit enough.
L8112 wrote:
and are going to go extinct.

Did you know that no one gets out this life alive? Valar Morghullis.
L8112 wrote:
Evolution, or rather, de-evolution in action.

I assure you, I have not grown any tentacles or anything.
L8112 wrote:
Definition of cognitive dissonance copied from wiki (yes, that is your que to dismiss it):
...deleted Wiki definition of 'cognitive dissonance'...

Wikipedia discarded on sight. Useless psychoquackery from you follows as you use this buzzword later.
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The word 'fact' is also another term that you will morph into whatever form suits you,

The word 'fact' has a single meaning. It is simply an assumed predicate. It saves us from having to declare the predicate every time in our arguments.
L8112 wrote:
like you were just trying to do with intelligence.

No, YOU are trying to do this with intelligence. I am not trying to define 'intelligence'. YOU are. Inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
Which I already redefined into a broader definition which,

Redefining words is itself a fallacy.
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while not defining all the properties of 'intelligence' rules these ones out by negation: Intelligence is not destroying the planet you evolved from and watching indifferently.
Intelligence is not 'winning debates' in anonymous online forums.

Argument by repetition fallacy. You already said this.
L8112 wrote:
As this is axiom,

No. Intelligence is not a closed functional system. There are no axioms in open functional systems. Buzzword fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
and you fulfill neither condition,

You already said this. Argument by repetition.
L8112 wrote:
then this axiom

There are no axioms in an open functional system.
L8112 wrote:
demands you are the opposite-unintelligent.

YALIF.
L8112 wrote:
You see an article that says arctic sea ice volume is the lowest on record,

And I don't believe it. It is not possible to measure the volume of ice in the Arctic sea.
L8112 wrote:
this immediately conflicts with your believe that climate change is a hoax,

Define 'climate change'. Attempting to predict dire prophecies based on an undefined word is a hoax. It is also a void argument fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
your confusion lying in the mechanism.

What mechanism? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Despite the cause,

What cause? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
the outward effects already having been measured

What effect? Define 'climate change'.
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- 3 trillion tonnes of ice melt in antarctica since the 90s,

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making numbers up again. It is not possible to measure the volume of ice in Antarctica.
L8112 wrote:
the arctic currently at 1.9 million square kilometers below the 1981-2010 average.

The Arctic winter ice extent for the Winter of 2018 is higher than it was for the winter of 2017. Both are higher than 2010. In 2004, the Antarctic saw the largest winter ice extent EVER RECORDED. This data can be found at the Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, CO.

It says you're a liar, L8112.
L8112 wrote:
You ignore both things and say "NO!!!", cite no articles/publications from credible institutions,

The Snow and Ice Data Center is a credible institution. It is operated by the University of Colorado and even funded from federal funding.
L8112 wrote:
because in order to make your cognitive dissonance complete any such institutions that conflict with your 'belief' must be wrong.

Psychoquackery. Buzzword fallacy. Argument of the stone fallacy. Void authority fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
All the while as you argue and debate, you are approaching the ground at 9.81 meters per second, per second, each passing second you spend debating the ground is approaching at a velocity faster than the previous moment and you say "I don't feel like Im falling", you do this until.....SPLAT.

I'm not falling, dumbass.
L8112 wrote:
Now for your personalty traits: that would be characterized as Narcissistic personality disorder, here is a list from PT (que to dismiss):

Psychoquackery is hereby dismissed.
L8112 wrote:
1. Frequent Lies and Exaggerations

Okay...that's you.
L8112 wrote:
2. Rarely Admit Flaws and Are Highly Aggressive When Criticized

Okay...that's you.
L8112 wrote:
3. False Image Projection

Okay...that's you. That's also known as an inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
4. Rule Breaking and Boundary Violation

BS. Every innovative thing that has happened to bring you cheap computers, cheap cars, plentiful food, plentiful water, clean air and water, has been by 'breaking the rules and exceeding previous boundaries'.
L8112 wrote:
5. Emotional Invalidation and Coercion

I am not coercing anyone. I could care less what they think of me.
L8112 wrote:
6. Manipulation: The Use or Control of Others as an Extension of Oneself

I am not trying to control others. YOU, on the other hand, ARE.
L8112 wrote:
Now applying this to you.

Inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
You expect that everyone treats you 'kindly',

Not in the least. I know what kind of mindless and stupid people I am often responding to.
L8112 wrote:
even in the face of something that has a magnitude (a global extinction event)

What 'global extinction event'? Are you seeing something in your Holy Entrails?
L8112 wrote:
which is beyond the scope of your tiny little ego.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that has the tiny little ego that is based on a meaningless number called an IQ.
L8112 wrote:
When reminded of how hideous a person you are, in the same fashion as you dismiss all beliefs that conflict with your worldview, will tell me "No you are the hideous person", for having pointed out that defending the rape of the planet is a hideous thing, and makes you sub human scum.

YALIF.
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In order to make sure you are on equal footing with anyone who is better than you.

I don't seek equal footing with anyone. BTW, when are you going to define 'climate change'?
L8112 wrote:
You believe that you know everything,

I know a lot. I know, for example, that you have yet to define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
hence why you are obstinate,

Inversion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
self assertive,

Thank you. I like to think so.
L8112 wrote:
will dismiss NASA (rocket scientists)

NASA isn't rocket scientists. They are a government agency. They commission others to build rockets for them. Private companies. Companies YOU despise, and built by people YOU despise.
L8112 wrote:
because they have the intelligence

Intelligence is not exclusive to NASA. Divisional error fallacy. Your implied view that no one else has intelligence is a compositional error fallacy involving people as the class. Bigotry.
L8112 wrote:
and means to study climate change.

Define 'climate change'. You can't study what you can't define.
L8112 wrote:
And so you are try to rewrite who is/isn't intelligent to suite your beliefs.

Inversion fallacy. You just did EXACTLY that by bringing up NASA as an example of 'superior' intelligence.
L8112 wrote:
You certainly don't like an authority figure who is also telling you to change your beliefs, so both are dismissed.

NASA is not an authority over me. I do not work for NASA. They instead buy products from me. I tell them how to use those products.
L8112 wrote:
Your belief system that you are unique, superior (to people who actually study this topic, have degrees etc.) is plainly shown here.

What topic? Climate change? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Now, you will try to flip this around on me and say I do the same,

No. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
yet I have already provided dozens of links to credible sources in other posts,

They are not credible if they do not define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
not from random blogs,

Have you ever found a random blog that defines 'climate change'?
L8112 wrote:
unverified sources of the vast minority,

You mean like Wikipedia? Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
and adjust my view on this topic accordingly.

Your only view seems to be one of snobbery. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
You don't because you are a narcissist.

Inversion fallacy. Snobs are narcissists.
L8112 wrote:
You lay great emphasis on needing to be perceived as if you know what you are talking about, 'win' arguments, and get respect from your peers.

I don't need peers. I am not keeping score. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
This is very important for primates. Being admired due to an outward appearance you put on (similar to trump pretending to be smart, strong, 'stable genius' etc.) because that puts you at the top of the perceived social pecking order.

Pecking orders are about chickens, not primates. Guess you don't know anything about ranching either.
L8112 wrote:
The demand that I have to cave in to your keyboard crap, because you get a thrill out of it, when you don't even know if you are right/wrong...but that was never the point. The point is to make others feel as you do-hated and hateful.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that the bigot here. It is YOU that is hateful here. It is YOU that is making fallacy after fallacy here. It is YOU that is shallow enough to claim IQ actually means anything. It is YOU that is typing keyboard crap. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
And so you will indefinitely cheer on the exploitation and collapse of the natural world as if its a joke, claiming it isn't even happening, maybe knowing it is, maybe not. But as I said, just like Donnie, truth is never the end goal. The goal is to see those who cognitively 'believe' differently than you suffer, and make them feel as hated as you are.

The natural world is not collapsing. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Just like Trump (who is the perfect archetype here), you have no conception of anyone else 'out there', for example, have no conception that I am an actual living being, not a means for you to get your online troll 'dopamine' hit. If this conversation was in real life, would not occur, as you are too timid.

This conversation IS in real life, dumbass.
L8112 wrote:
Continuing to the trump comparison,

Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized.
L8112 wrote:
as he is the gold standard,

Of what? Capitalism? No. Trump did not define capitalism. Capitalism existed LONG before Trump! Trump is a capitalist though.
L8112 wrote:
trump

Proper noun. It's capitalized. It's 'Trump'. Donald Trump. The President of the United States. A successful real estate investor. Trump is a capitalist.
L8112 wrote:
will not empathize with anyone who isn't on team trump,

Trump is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Team Trump is also a proper noun. I am not on his team. I am not holding Cabinet office.
L8112 wrote:
any criticisms are met with vitriol.

Nah. Trump is just playing games with your brain for entertainment purposes. You're losing.
L8112 wrote:
Similarly, you cannot, will not, concede any ground on anything.

I have no need to. Assertion fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
Knowing what a scheming, jealous, hate filled homo sap you are, as you live it every single day, you then extend that to everyone else. You are disingenuous, deceptive towards others, self deceptive (lying to yourself about your own abilities and perceived social position), so naturally, being these are your motivating principles, everyone must be the same as you.

YALIF.
L8112 wrote:
When confronted with the fact of the above picture as being true, you will take the painstaking time to dissect each sentence and paragraph, and re-engineer and misconstrue it into a form that suits your beliefs.

No, I take the time because you are trying to present so many arguments. I separate out each argument or fallacy.
L8112 wrote:
Thus, unknowingly, confirming every little thing I said.

Redefinition fallacy (argument<->confirmation). Psychoquackery.
L8112 wrote:
Truth (capital T) exists,

Only in religions.
L8112 wrote:
and it has an interesting feature, that it stands the principle of non-contradiction.

Circular argument fallacy. Now you are describing a fundamentalist style religion.
L8112 wrote:
When the spotlight of Truth is shone on those who continuously speak falsehoods,

I abhor your religion. I am the Great Satan for your religion. Banish me. See how well it works.
L8112 wrote:
falsehood by definition being unreal,

Buzzword fallacy. Define 'real'. I know this definition. Let's see if you do. Hint: it has nothing to do with True or False or lies.
L8112 wrote:
will lash out and try to to attack anybody who tells them the Truth of their condition.

I abhor your religion. 'Nuff said.
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Unfortunately Truth when compared to untruth is like light compared to darkness,

You cannot save me. I am the Great Satan of your fundamentalist religion.
BTW, there is no such thing as 'darkness'. There is only light, or the lack of it.
L8112 wrote:
darkness cannot shine into light, as 'to shine' is only a characteristic of light.

About the only thing you've got right so far.
L8112 wrote:
Similarly Truth is immutable, immovable, not subject to your every whim, fancy, disbelief or feeling.

Circular argument fallacy. Fundamentalism.
L8112 wrote:
The problem here is, you can't even conceive of these things.

No, I just don't agree with your Truth.
L8112 wrote:
Tying back into my first paragraph: to admit this is an inconceivable notion, and you won't.

It's perfectly conceivable. You are pushing a fundamentalist religion. The Church of Global Warming, in fact.
L8112 wrote:
Once again, inadvertently, confirming the inconceivable.

Define 'climate change'.


You are, well---NOT BRIGHT
Fell for it, hook line & sinker, couldn't resist, no self control. You just can't help but smell your own shit can you? Then you pick it up and fling it.

These jokes write themselves...

Quoting me: "When confronted with the fact of the above picture as being true, you will take the painstaking time to dissect each sentence and paragraph, and re-engineer and misconstrue it into a form that suits your beliefs. Thus, unknowingly, confirming every little thing I said."

I will add: will even try to re-engineer and misconstrue simple words and phrases as if you have no idea the meaning or context, an attempt to reduce everything to the absurd-which is what you are.
The mere fact that you exist is non-sequitur, as you are atheist, per your own admission, will cease to exist for infinity.

Non sequitur: a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

In regards to you and IBdaMann's atheism, the atheist says 'i exist now', but atheism also implies you did not exist for an infinity prior to 'now', hence your entire existence is one infinitely non-sequitur laugh-out-loud joke.

Or look at the +infinity side, you will cease to exist for infinity, meaning, you are an absolute worthless nothing, a non-entity your duration here say 70 years divided by infinity = 0. A shitbrain monkey flailing and wailing in despair, filled with hatred and rage scared shitless-sandwhichehed betweeen infinitely non-sequitur confusion and infinite nonexistence....that is you, smile for the camera
.

Thanks for playing my game and being my unwilling subject. The outcome-the monkey took the bone and bashed himself over the head repeatedly.

In all seriousness, just stop embarrassing yourself.
Edited on 17-07-2019 06:27
17-07-2019 06:22
GasGuzzler
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I think the high IQ monkey can't read. Into the Night is no atheist.
17-07-2019 06:27
L8112
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GasGuzzler wrote:
I think the high IQ monkey can't read. Into the Night is no atheist.

"into the night is no atheist"
"the parrot killer loves the environment"
"water isn't wet"
Edited on 17-07-2019 06:29
17-07-2019 10:52
HarveyH55
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GasGuzzler wrote:
I think the high IQ monkey can't read. Into the Night is no atheist.


I'm not sure about the IQ part, but High is probably accurate. Better living through chemistry?
17-07-2019 14:35
L8112
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HarveyH55 wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
I think the high IQ monkey can't read. Into the Night is no atheist.


I'm not sure about the IQ part, but High is probably accurate. Better living through chemistry?

Your wordlview has devolved into something so random, so incoherent, that you worship donald trump as the messiah that will finally make you great, that is, worse than having a nightmarish acid trip every waking second. But you love it, bcuz you love your mud and shit, and love rolling around in it.
17-07-2019 17:25
IBdaMann
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L8112 wrote:Your wordlview has devolved into something so random, so incoherent, that you worship donald trump as the messiah that will finally make you great, that is, worse than having a nightmarish acid trip every waking second. But you love it, bcuz you love your mud and shit, and love rolling around in it.

What do you have against Donald Trump? Is it simply that you are a Marxist and Trump is really good at the capitalism thing? Blind envy on your part, perhaps?

Anyway, if you aren't prepared for Trump to be reelected in 2020, you should probably get a jump start on seeing a shrink.

Keep America Great!


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

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L8112 wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Define 'climate change'.


You are, well---NOT BRIGHT
Fell for it, hook line & sinker, couldn't resist, no self control. You just can't help but smell your own shit can you? Then you pick it up and fling it.

These jokes write themselves...

Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Quoting me: "When confronted with the fact of the above picture as being true, you will take the painstaking time to dissect each sentence and paragraph, and re-engineer and misconstrue it into a form that suits your beliefs. Thus, unknowingly, confirming every little thing I said."

Psychoquackery. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
I will add: will even try to re-engineer and misconstrue simple words and phrases as if you have no idea the meaning or context, an attempt to reduce everything to the absurd-which is what you are.

Inversion fallacy. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
The mere fact that you exist is non-sequitur, as you are atheist, per your own admission, will cease to exist for infinity.

Not an atheist. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Non sequitur: a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

Fine. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
In regards to you and IBdaMann's atheism, the atheist says 'i exist now', but atheism also implies you did not exist for an infinity prior to 'now', hence your entire existence is one infinitely non-sequitur laugh-out-loud joke.

He is not an atheist. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Or look at the +infinity side, you will cease to exist for infinity, meaning, you are an absolute worthless nothing, a non-entity your duration here say 70 years divided by infinity = 0. A shitbrain monkey flailing and wailing in despair, filled with hatred and rage scared shitless-sandwhichehed betweeen infinitely non-sequitur confusion and infinite nonexistence....that is you, smile for the camera
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Buzzword fallacies. Define 'climate change'.
L8112 wrote:
Thanks for playing my game and being my unwilling subject. The outcome-the monkey took the bone and bashed himself over the head repeatedly.

Psychoquackery. Trolling. Define 'clmate change'.
L8112 wrote:
In all seriousness, just stop embarrassing yourself.

Define 'climate change'.


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