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Priorities10-03-2020 18:36
keepit
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Clearly people are willing to forego spending money on cruises, airlines, entertainment, etc in order to avoid getting sick but they aren't willing to forego expenditures in order to avoid causing CO2 emissions.
I gave a series of lectures at a community college about solving climate change by drastically reducing expenditures and was politely received but no one was willing to implement it, especially women. The women like their spending!
When i made similar suggestions here i was greeted with name calling (hater of humanity, denier of science, and Marxist). I didn't even know what a marxist was.
The thing is, people are definitely not desperate enough to limit expenditures at this time (with their current level of knowledge) but they are willing to limit expenditures to avoid getting sick. It's a matter of priorities.
Edited on 10-03-2020 18:38
10-03-2020 19:27
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Clearly people are willing to forego spending money on cruises, airlines, entertainment, etc in order to avoid getting sick but they aren't willing to forego expenditures in order to avoid causing CO2 emissions.

People are going on cruises, flying on airlines, and going to casinos and movie theaters. Maybe you haven't noticed.
keepit wrote:
I gave a series of lectures at a community college

Big deal.
keepit wrote:
about solving climate change by drastically reducing expenditures

So you have turned your lectures into religious preaching.
keepit wrote:
and was politely received but no one was willing to implement it, especially women. The women like their spending!

Guess you couldn't find enough faithful willing to sacrifice.
keepit wrote:
When i made similar suggestions here i was greeted with name calling (hater of humanity, denier of science, and Marxist).

That is not name calling. You are denying science, specifically the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan Boltzmann law, you are denying mathematics, specifically probability and statistical mathematics, and you are denying history, specifically the history of Marxism, socialism, and capitalism.

You are preaching Marxism when you preach 'global warming'. The Church of Global Warming stems from the Church of Karl Marx.

keepit wrote:
I didn't even know what a marxist was.

Marx is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Apparently you never learned English either.
keepit wrote:
The thing is, people are definitely not desperate enough to limit expenditures at this time

Having trouble finding loyal followers?
keepit wrote:
(with their current level of knowledge)

Having trouble finding loyal followers?
keepit wrote:
but they are willing to limit expenditures to avoid getting sick.

Why limit expenditures to avoid getting sick??
keepit wrote:
It's a matter of priorities.

It's a matter of your religion.


The Parrot Killer

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Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
10-03-2020 20:51
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Clearly people are willing to forego spending money on cruises, airlines, entertainment, etc in order to avoid getting sick

Actually, plenty of people are still doing these things. I personally don't spend money on that sort of stuff to begin with, but plenty of other people do and still are.

keepit wrote:
but they aren't willing to forego expenditures in order to avoid causing CO2 emissions.

Are YOU willing to do this? That would amount to you giving up pretty much all of your modern day conveniences...

Why are CO2 emissions "bad"?

keepit wrote:
I gave a series of lectures at a community college about solving climate change by drastically reducing expenditures

In other words, you used a lot of words to say absolutely nothing?? Define "climate change".

keepit wrote:
and was politely received

Be glad I wasn't there.

keepit wrote:
but no one was willing to implement it,

Well, DUH! That's just for "everybody else" to do, amiright?


keepit wrote:
especially women.

YOU SEXIST PIG!!!


keepit wrote:
The women like their spending!

BIGOT!

keepit wrote:
When i made similar suggestions here i was greeted with name calling (hater of humanity, denier of science, and Marxist).

Not name calling, but it sounds about right.

keepit wrote:
I didn't even know what a marxist was.

That's because you've completely replaced philosophy with Wikipedia and TV.

keepit wrote:
The thing is, people are definitely not desperate enough to limit expenditures at this time (with their current level of knowledge)

Are YOU willing to give up pretty much all modern day conveniences?

keepit wrote:
but they are willing to limit expenditures to avoid getting sick.

They haven't, though.

Also, whether I spend $0 or I spend $5,000, how does that have any effect on my immune system or my exposure to sick people?

keepit wrote:
It's a matter of priorities.

No, it's just a matter of your religious beliefs.
11-03-2020 02:44
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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Spending less, just leaves more money sitting around for others to steal, like the government. If I work hard 40 hrs/week, shouldn't I get some enjoyment out of my labor? What's the point in getting out of bed, early every morning, just to punch a time clock?

My spending less, means somebody else is earning less. The economy, is money moving around. People buying, selling, building, producing, working. Sitting on money, spending less, stalls the economy, kills jobs and businesses. Spending less, isn't an option, if you have little to nothing to spend, because you lost your job, or business. 'Free Stuff', from your socialist government, can only be spread so thin. Somebody still has to be paying for all that 'free stuff', you enjoy, from spending less. It's not really, spend less, if someone else is expected to pay for you. It's like inviting your friends to diner at a nice restaurant, then handing the bill to one of those friends.

What's the point of working all your life, spending less, just to sit on a mound of cash. You die, the government takes a good portion, even though you already paid taxes on it, as you earned. Vast majority of people who inherit a good deal of cash, don't just sit on it, and spend less. Quite of few of them would have been better off, had they never gotten that money. Spending less, is just being selfish and mean.
11-03-2020 02:53
keepit
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So many misconceptions Harvey.
11-03-2020 10:12
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
So many misconceptions Harvey.


Think I summed it up pretty good. It's a misconception, that people spending less, will solve any problems at all, except one's credit issues. You have never once differentiated between people living within their income, and those running up debt on a credit card.
11-03-2020 16:45
keepit
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Harvey,
I made a mistake. Sorry. It was a different recent post where i disagreed with you a lot. That doesn't mean you're wrong. What you are totally wrong about though is what you said about "my socialist govt". That's just wacko. If you put out too much nonsense, noone will believe your common sense, and you do have common sense, just not enough accurate info.
Edited on 11-03-2020 16:56
11-03-2020 19:53
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
So many misconceptions Harvey.


Argument of the stone fallacy. Mantra 23.


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11-03-2020 20:02
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Harvey,
I made a mistake. Sorry. It was a different recent post where i disagreed with you a lot. That doesn't mean you're wrong. What you are totally wrong about though is what you said about "my socialist govt". That's just wacko. If you put out too much nonsense, noone will believe your common sense, and you do have common sense, just not enough accurate info.


You don't get to speak for everyone.. You only get to speak for you.

There are parts of government in the United States that are socialist in nature. They also do not conform to the Constitution of the United States. Examples are the EPA, the CPSC, the Federal Reserve, etc. They are essentially oligarchies that tell you what light bulb you can buy, what toilet you can install, what car you can drive, what fuel you can use, how much it costs to borrow money, what paint you can use, etc.

This form of socialism is called 'fascism'.

States too, have socialist departments that don't conform to their State constitutions as well. California has gotten so bad that I no longer consider it a State of the Union anymore. I call it the SOTC now (The Socialist Oligarchy of the Territory of California). Why do you think a lot of people sometimes spell 'California' as 'Kalifornia'?

And the Democrats want more of it.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 11-03-2020 20:03
11-03-2020 20:03
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Harvey,
I made a mistake. Sorry. It was a different recent post where i disagreed with you a lot. That doesn't mean you're wrong. What you are totally wrong about though is what you said about "my socialist govt". That's just wacko. If you put out too much nonsense, noone will believe your common sense, and you do have common sense, just not enough accurate info.


My creativity runs wild at times...

But, I am serious about people buying stuff, provides jobs, so there people can earn money, to buy stuff. Businesses that don't sell as much stuff, because people are spending less, don't need as many employees. Those that lose their jobs, don't have enough to spend on things like food, water, shelter. Obviously, that's a survival problem, either they get what they need, free from the government, or the get it free, by stealing it. Either way, working people get ripped off, either through taxes, to pay for free stuff, or robbed less legally.
11-03-2020 20:05
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
keepit wrote:
Harvey,
I made a mistake. Sorry. It was a different recent post where i disagreed with you a lot. That doesn't mean you're wrong. What you are totally wrong about though is what you said about "my socialist govt". That's just wacko. If you put out too much nonsense, noone will believe your common sense, and you do have common sense, just not enough accurate info.


My creativity runs wild at times...

But, I am serious about people buying stuff, provides jobs, so there people can earn money, to buy stuff. Businesses that don't sell as much stuff, because people are spending less, don't need as many employees. Those that lose their jobs, don't have enough to spend on things like food, water, shelter. Obviously, that's a survival problem, either they get what they need, free from the government, or the get it free, by stealing it. Either way, working people get ripped off, either through taxes, to pay for free stuff, or robbed less legally.


What you are describing, Harvey, is called 'money velocity'. It is indeed a good indicator of economic activity, for it directly describes buy and selling activity. That's what an economy is.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
13-03-2020 14:40
duncan61
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I am sure Keepit is acting dumb on purpose.You lectured to poor people at a community college how to not spend money they dont have.Interesting were you paid in lentils?
13-03-2020 19:15
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:I am sure Keepit is acting dumb on purpose.You lectured to poor people at a community college how to not spend money they dont have.Interesting were you paid in lentils?

I don't think it was on purpose.

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Edited on 13-03-2020 19:17
14-03-2020 07:26
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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i am going to forego all my money.



No.
28-05-2022 02:25
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
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keepit wrote:
Clearly people are willing to forego spending money on cruises, airlines, entertainment, etc in order to avoid getting sick but they aren't willing to forego expenditures in order to avoid causing CO2 emissions.
I gave a series of lectures at a community college about solving climate change by drastically reducing expenditures and was politely received but no one was willing to implement it, especially women. The women like their spending!
When i made similar suggestions here i was greeted with name calling (hater of humanity, denier of science, and Marxist). I didn't even know what a marxist was.
The thing is, people are definitely not desperate enough to limit expenditures at this time (with their current level of knowledge) but they are willing to limit expenditures to avoid getting sick. It's a matter of priorities.


Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it
28-05-2022 02:55
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.
28-05-2022 13:10
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains
28-05-2022 17:33
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:Climate change can not be stopped or reduced

... nor can Rapture, just ask any Christian who believes in it.

I am an atheist who has no religion at the moment. This precludes recognition of Rapture, Climate Change, or any other purely religious belief.

Why should any rational adult believe as you believe.

Swan wrote: as it is as real a part of the Earth

Nope. There is no The Climate part of the earth.

Where would you advise a tourist, or a geologist, to go to get the absolutely best view of earth's The Climate?

Would you mind posting a few quick images here, in this thread, of The Climate?
28-05-2022 21:39
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Climate change can not be stopped or reduced

... nor can Rapture, just ask any Christian who believes in it.

I am an atheist who has no religion at the moment. This precludes recognition of Rapture, Climate Change, or any other purely religious belief.

Why should any rational adult believe as you believe.

Swan wrote: as it is as real a part of the Earth

Nope. There is no The Climate part of the earth.

Where would you advise a tourist, or a geologist, to go to get the absolutely best view of earth's The Climate?

Would you mind posting a few quick images here, in this thread, of The Climate?


Your belief in God or lack of has no effect on climate change.

LOL
28-05-2022 22:16
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
29-05-2022 06:12
duncan61
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I am about to have a climate change. I am flying to Broome tomorrow morning to repair accommodation at a van park.Broome has just swung in to its dry season where the skies are clear and blue and around 30.C.The same weather I was experiencing 2 months ago here in Perth.Perth is now getting colder and raining more with storms lashing the coast.Many people travel north this time of year to experience a warmer climate
29-05-2022 13:08
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
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Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


Actually my definitions are spot on, you are on the other hand living in a haze of perpetual denial caused by your delusions
29-05-2022 22:17
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Karl Marx was a philosopher. The democrat party is the creation of philosophy...
29-05-2022 22:45
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:Karl Marx was a philosopher. The democrat party is the creation of philosophy...

As to the question "What's in a word?" ... I don't apply the word "philosopher" to anyone who is preaching HATE as a way to blame others for his own shortcomings.

Philosophers seek to understand so as to build/create something better.

Leftists, on the other hand, do NOT seek any understanding, do NOT wish to learn anything and are completely INTOLERANT of anything but their pre-established views ... as they angrily target something for destruction, something into which they believe they can transfer their own failures.

Leftists are antithetical to philosophers.

Karl Marx was a hater who believed that the rest of the world should work and bring to him whatever he needed/wanted without him having to work or exert any effort. He HATED happiness in others and developed his communism around depriving others of happiness. His final solution was to abolish the primary source of happiness, i.e. strong economy and free markets, for which he coined the slur "capitalism", and replace it all with the guaranteed misery of a tyrannical government that cracked the whip over all areas of people's personal lives.

The saying "I'm not happy until you're not happy" was Karl Marx's driving motto that underscored everything he did or said.

You'll notice that Leftists have no sense of humor for anything that isn't someone else's misery.

.
29-05-2022 23:34
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
I am about to have a climate change. I am flying to Broome tomorrow morning to repair accommodation at a van park.Broome has just swung in to its dry season where the skies are clear and blue and around 30.C.The same weather I was experiencing 2 months ago here in Perth.Perth is now getting colder and raining more with storms lashing the coast.Many people travel north this time of year to experience a warmer climate

Climate has no temperature.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
29-05-2022 23:37
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Karl Marx was a philosopher. The democrat party is the creation of philosophy...

As to the question "What's in a word?" ... I don't apply the word "philosopher" to anyone who is preaching HATE as a way to blame others for his own shortcomings.

Philosophers seek to understand so as to build/create something better.

Leftists, on the other hand, do NOT seek any understanding, do NOT wish to learn anything and are completely INTOLERANT of anything but their pre-established views ... as they angrily target something for destruction, something into which they believe they can transfer their own failures.

Leftists are antithetical to philosophers.

Karl Marx was a hater who believed that the rest of the world should work and bring to him whatever he needed/wanted without him having to work or exert any effort. He HATED happiness in others and developed his communism around depriving others of happiness. His final solution was to abolish the primary source of happiness, i.e. strong economy and free markets, for which he coined the slur "capitalism", and replace it all with the guaranteed misery of a tyrannical government that cracked the whip over all areas of people's personal lives.

The saying "I'm not happy until you're not happy" was Karl Marx's driving motto that underscored everything he did or said.

You'll notice that Leftists have no sense of humor for anything that isn't someone else's misery.

.

Agreed. Karl Marx is no philosopher. He didn't use his own arguments.

He took Satan's arguments and applied it to economies. Satan teaches compulsion, not choice. Both communism and fascism are about compulsion, not choice.

Satan also taught hate.

Communism, fascism, and slavery are all forms of socialism. All are theft. All bring misery. All are based on compulsion.

Whether you believe in the Bible or not is immaterial. This is the argument made by Satan, as written in the Bible.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 29-05-2022 23:41
29-05-2022 23:42
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


Actually my definitions are spot on, you are on the other hand living in a haze of perpetual denial caused by your delusions

You never defined 'climate change', the word 'real', or even the 'Rocky Mountains'.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
30-05-2022 00:27
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
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Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


Actually my definitions are spot on, you are on the other hand living in a haze of perpetual denial caused by your delusions

You never defined 'climate change', the word 'real', or even the 'Rocky Mountains'.


Actually climate change defines itself, real is something that schizzos like you can never actually grasp, and if you need a definition of the rockies you are retarded.

Next
30-05-2022 21:05
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


Actually my definitions are spot on, you are on the other hand living in a haze of perpetual denial caused by your delusions

You never defined 'climate change', the word 'real', or even the 'Rocky Mountains'.


Actually climate change defines itself,

You can't define a buzzword with itself. Circular definition. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). You still haven't defined 'climate change'.
Swan wrote:
real is something that schizzos like you can never actually grasp,

I knew you didn't know what 'real' meant.
Swan wrote:
and if you need a definition of the rockies you are retarded.

The Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Apparently you are illiterate as well.
Since you can't define The Rockies, you apparently never learned geography either.

Of course, I am only continuing to make the point that you don't know the English language.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 30-05-2022 21:06
30-05-2022 21:19
SwanProfile picture★★★★☆
(1537)
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


Actually my definitions are spot on, you are on the other hand living in a haze of perpetual denial caused by your delusions

You never defined 'climate change', the word 'real', or even the 'Rocky Mountains'.


Actually climate change defines itself,

You can't define a buzzword with itself. Circular definition. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). You still haven't defined 'climate change'.
Swan wrote:
real is something that schizzos like you can never actually grasp,

I knew you didn't know what 'real' meant.
Swan wrote:
and if you need a definition of the rockies you are retarded.

The Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Apparently you are illiterate as well.
Since you can't define The Rockies, you apparently never learned geography either.

Of course, I am only continuing to make the point that you don't know the English language.


So how did your memorial day smoked baby back ribs turn out? Mine are smoketacular in the first degree. Ok that said why exactly do you need me to define what the rocky mountains are? I mean you do have internet access right? Furthermore if the biggest issue in your life is my not putting rocky mountains in caps, your kindergarten teacher status is affirmed. Then again rocky is an adjective and mountains is a noun as sandy is to beach or in your situation mental is to hospital.

CIAO

PS. My ribs kicked all ass today but you enjoy your happy meal anyway
01-06-2022 00:37
duncan61
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(1741)
Into the Night wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
I am about to have a climate change. I am flying to Broome tomorrow morning to repair accommodation at a van park.Broome has just swung in to its dry season where the skies are clear and blue and around 30.C.The same weather I was experiencing 2 months ago here in Perth.Perth is now getting colder and raining more with storms lashing the coast.Many people travel north this time of year to experience a warmer climate

Climate has no temperature.
It's much warmer here in Broome than Perth.Its the first day of winter down South and I am in the sunny North.high tide is 11.30 today so am going to have a go at the jetty.Our Carpenter is local and has a boat so this weekend is going to be interesting.ITN you are getting weirder.I like it


duncan61
01-06-2022 08:01
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(18688)
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote:Well if you do not know who Marx was that does not mean that you are not a Marxist, now does it

Correct.

A Marxist is one who advocates for Marxist things, as defined in Karl Marx's writings, e.g. The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, others ...

keepit believes that Climate Change (he doesn't have any idea what he means by that term) can nonetheless be reduced (whatever that means) by humans reducing their spending of money, i.e. by directly injuring the economy and dealing a direct blow to capitalism.

keepit also believes that the printing of dollars does not increase the number of dollars for any dollars that are spent on paying off debt. If those printed dollars are spent on infrastructure or waging war, for example, then yes, of course they increase the number of dollars, but if they are used to pay off debt then I suppose they just disappear, or perhaps they were never real in the first place.

In any event, there is no such thing as a coherent explanation from keepit ... so you might like his "theories." They're kind of "out there" if you know what I mean, right in your ball park so you might want to take advantage and join in the game.


Climate change can not be stopped or reduced as it is as real a part of the Earth as the Rocky mountains


You can't seem to define either.


Actually my definitions are spot on, you are on the other hand living in a haze of perpetual denial caused by your delusions

You never defined 'climate change', the word 'real', or even the 'Rocky Mountains'.


Actually climate change defines itself,

You can't define a buzzword with itself. Circular definition. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). You still haven't defined 'climate change'.
Swan wrote:
real is something that schizzos like you can never actually grasp,

I knew you didn't know what 'real' meant.
Swan wrote:
and if you need a definition of the rockies you are retarded.

The Rockies is a proper noun. It is capitalized. Apparently you are illiterate as well.
Since you can't define The Rockies, you apparently never learned geography either.

Of course, I am only continuing to make the point that you don't know the English language.


So how did your memorial day smoked baby back ribs turn out? Mine are smoketacular in the first degree. Ok that said why exactly do you need me to define what the rocky mountains are? I mean you do have internet access right? Furthermore if the biggest issue in your life is my not putting rocky mountains in caps, your kindergarten teacher status is affirmed. Then again rocky is an adjective and mountains is a noun as sandy is to beach or in your situation mental is to hospital.

CIAO

PS. My ribs kicked all ass today but you enjoy your happy meal anyway

Insult fallacies. No argument presented.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
01-06-2022 08:02
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(18688)
duncan61 wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
I am about to have a climate change. I am flying to Broome tomorrow morning to repair accommodation at a van park.Broome has just swung in to its dry season where the skies are clear and blue and around 30.C.The same weather I was experiencing 2 months ago here in Perth.Perth is now getting colder and raining more with storms lashing the coast.Many people travel north this time of year to experience a warmer climate

Climate has no temperature.
It's much warmer here in Broome than Perth.Its the first day of winter down South and I am in the sunny North.high tide is 11.30 today so am going to have a go at the jetty.Our Carpenter is local and has a boat so this weekend is going to be interesting.ITN you are getting weirder.I like it
Random phrases. No argument presented.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
02-06-2022 13:24
duncan61
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(1741)
What is there to argue about?I have moved over 2000 Km North and the climate has changed.
02-06-2022 19:13
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(18688)
duncan61 wrote:
What is there to argue about?I have moved over 2000 Km North and the climate has changed.


Nope. A desert climate is still a desert climate. A marine climate is still a marine climate.
Climate has no value associated with it. Climate cannot change.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
04-06-2022 09:47
duncan61
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(1741)
Climate can move
04-06-2022 10:04
duncan61
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(1741)
I can move.I was in a temperate climate now I am in a sub tropical climate and I like it.the bream were on the chew on the low tide and I have a pair wrapped in foil ready for the BBQ
04-06-2022 10:30
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(11967)
duncan61 wrote:Climate can move

... in mysterious ways?

I propose the following anthem:


Climate moves in a mysterious way,
Her wonders all together;
She lifts a rising sea,
And accelerates extreme weather.

Deep in unfathomable mines
Of fossils, coal and soot;
Her patience grows ever thinner,
for the carbon print afoot.

Ye fearful remember albedo,
clouds and ice, the sun deflect
whereas CO2, right back to the earth,
reradiate IR direct.

Judge not Climate,
trust what you see;
Earth is warmer than,
it otherwise would be.

Her purpose is to save us all,
by making earth a place,
where Her coddling blanket traps the heat
from escaping into space.

Deniers ignore consensus
and their logic is a lie;
Climate Change is what we know,
it's the science they deny.



.
04-06-2022 14:22
duncan61
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(1741)
Like it
04-06-2022 19:04
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(18688)
duncan61 wrote:
Climate can move

Climate has no location. A desert climate is a desert climate no matter where it's located.
A marine climate is a marine climate no matter where it's located.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
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