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06-10-2020 07:39
Spongy Iris
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN,

Who said CO2 is heating up the entire solar system???

No one.
Spongy Iris wrote:
That is basically what you are arguing by citing the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics incessantly.

You are hallucinating. Put down the bong.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It should be pretty obvious who is the one making irrelevant comments.

You.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm just saying evidence is substantial ice levels in the Arctic have decreased significantly in the past few decades. Why do you think that is?

They aren't.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You know they never had solid proof connecting Ted Bundy to any murders. But the evidence was substantial enough to light his ass up.

Irrelevant.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Earth is not entirely a closed system.

Yes it is.
Spongy Iris wrote:
People are born everyday.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
You might want to consider it like a bicycle tire with air getting pumped into it.

So people are all aliens? I thought you said they were born here. Which is it, dude?
Spongy Iris wrote:
One more thing, please tell me how gloves can warm my hands without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

Already did. RQAA.


You're arguing that you can't add energy to a closed system.

Do you need me to spell out that people being born adds pressure to system when there was once none???


So, people dying relieves the pressure of the births. Does that include the 1500 abortion performed in America every day?

I tend to look at things from an electronic stand point, something I've work in a long time. When you have a weak signal, you need to amplify it. That can only be done, by adding energy. You get nothing for free, there is a certain cost to everything, a trade off.


Population growth tends to be exponential.

I'm not sure what the max capacity of people the planet can handle. 21 billion???

Probably depends a lot where they live.

In the US more than half the country lives in the east. That's probably by necessity. It would probably be ruinous if the West and East populations migrated to reverse those numbers.

Also, half the people in the world live 125 miles from the coast. Also probably a necessity. All those people moving to the rural inland I think would be ruinous.
06-10-2020 18:03
HarveyH55
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Spongy Iris wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN,

Who said CO2 is heating up the entire solar system???

No one.
Spongy Iris wrote:
That is basically what you are arguing by citing the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics incessantly.

You are hallucinating. Put down the bong.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It should be pretty obvious who is the one making irrelevant comments.

You.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm just saying evidence is substantial ice levels in the Arctic have decreased significantly in the past few decades. Why do you think that is?

They aren't.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You know they never had solid proof connecting Ted Bundy to any murders. But the evidence was substantial enough to light his ass up.

Irrelevant.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Earth is not entirely a closed system.

Yes it is.
Spongy Iris wrote:
People are born everyday.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
You might want to consider it like a bicycle tire with air getting pumped into it.

So people are all aliens? I thought you said they were born here. Which is it, dude?
Spongy Iris wrote:
One more thing, please tell me how gloves can warm my hands without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

Already did. RQAA.


You're arguing that you can't add energy to a closed system.

Do you need me to spell out that people being born adds pressure to system when there was once none???


So, people dying relieves the pressure of the births. Does that include the 1500 abortion performed in America every day?

I tend to look at things from an electronic stand point, something I've work in a long time. When you have a weak signal, you need to amplify it. That can only be done, by adding energy. You get nothing for free, there is a certain cost to everything, a trade off.


Population growth tends to be exponential.

I'm not sure what the max capacity of people the planet can handle. 21 billion???

Probably depends a lot where they live.

In the US more than half the country lives in the east. That's probably by necessity. It would probably be ruinous if the West and East populations migrated to reverse those numbers.

Also, half the people in the world live 125 miles from the coast. Also probably a necessity. All those people moving to the rural inland I think would be ruinous.


Population is self-correcting, just like most everything else on this planet. With a higher population, more people die during pandemics, a lot quicker too. Every critter on earth fights to survive. As food, resources, territory become scares, people will slaughter those who wish to take, what is not theirs, or kill others to do the taking. People live near the coast, because of the sandy beaches, fishing, surfing chicks... Partly, because it gives them a sense of security, having the water at their back. Though that hasn't applied in a long time, but it's where most civilizations made their start, plenty of job opportunities. Inland cities are generally limited the local industries. Many have expanded into other businesses, but still a more limited job market.
06-10-2020 20:33
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN,

Who said CO2 is heating up the entire solar system???

No one.
Spongy Iris wrote:
That is basically what you are arguing by citing the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics incessantly.

You are hallucinating. Put down the bong.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It should be pretty obvious who is the one making irrelevant comments.

You.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm just saying evidence is substantial ice levels in the Arctic have decreased significantly in the past few decades. Why do you think that is?

They aren't.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You know they never had solid proof connecting Ted Bundy to any murders. But the evidence was substantial enough to light his ass up.

Irrelevant.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Earth is not entirely a closed system.

Yes it is.
Spongy Iris wrote:
People are born everyday.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
You might want to consider it like a bicycle tire with air getting pumped into it.

So people are all aliens? I thought you said they were born here. Which is it, dude?
Spongy Iris wrote:
One more thing, please tell me how gloves can warm my hands without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

Already did. RQAA.


You're arguing that you can't add energy to a closed system.

Do you need me to spell out that people being born adds pressure to system when there was once none???


So, people dying relieves the pressure of the births. Does that include the 1500 abortion performed in America every day?

I tend to look at things from an electronic stand point, something I've work in a long time. When you have a weak signal, you need to amplify it. That can only be done, by adding energy. You get nothing for free, there is a certain cost to everything, a trade off.


Population growth tends to be exponential.

I'm not sure what the max capacity of people the planet can handle. 21 billion???

Probably depends a lot where they live.

In the US more than half the country lives in the east. That's probably by necessity. It would probably be ruinous if the West and East populations migrated to reverse those numbers.

Also, half the people in the world live 125 miles from the coast. Also probably a necessity. All those people moving to the rural inland I think would be ruinous.

So you have a problem with world population. Okay. You die first.


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Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
07-10-2020 01:00
Spongy Iris
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN,

Who said CO2 is heating up the entire solar system???

No one.
Spongy Iris wrote:
That is basically what you are arguing by citing the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics incessantly.

You are hallucinating. Put down the bong.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It should be pretty obvious who is the one making irrelevant comments.

You.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm just saying evidence is substantial ice levels in the Arctic have decreased significantly in the past few decades. Why do you think that is?

They aren't.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You know they never had solid proof connecting Ted Bundy to any murders. But the evidence was substantial enough to light his ass up.

Irrelevant.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Earth is not entirely a closed system.

Yes it is.
Spongy Iris wrote:
People are born everyday.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
You might want to consider it like a bicycle tire with air getting pumped into it.

So people are all aliens? I thought you said they were born here. Which is it, dude?
Spongy Iris wrote:
One more thing, please tell me how gloves can warm my hands without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

Already did. RQAA.


You're arguing that you can't add energy to a closed system.

Do you need me to spell out that people being born adds pressure to system when there was once none???


So, people dying relieves the pressure of the births. Does that include the 1500 abortion performed in America every day?

I tend to look at things from an electronic stand point, something I've work in a long time. When you have a weak signal, you need to amplify it. That can only be done, by adding energy. You get nothing for free, there is a certain cost to everything, a trade off.


Population growth tends to be exponential.

I'm not sure what the max capacity of people the planet can handle. 21 billion???

Probably depends a lot where they live.

In the US more than half the country lives in the east. That's probably by necessity. It would probably be ruinous if the West and East populations migrated to reverse those numbers.

Also, half the people in the world live 125 miles from the coast. Also probably a necessity. All those people moving to the rural inland I think would be ruinous.


Population is self-correcting, just like most everything else on this planet. With a higher population, more people die during pandemics, a lot quicker too. Every critter on earth fights to survive. As food, resources, territory become scares, people will slaughter those who wish to take, what is not theirs, or kill others to do the taking. People live near the coast, because of the sandy beaches, fishing, surfing chicks... Partly, because it gives them a sense of security, having the water at their back. Though that hasn't applied in a long time, but it's where most civilizations made their start, plenty of job opportunities. Inland cities are generally limited the local industries. Many have expanded into other businesses, but still a more limited job market.


Oceans absorb CO2, so it's ideal for most people to live near the coast. The Pacific Ocean off the North American West Coast is not likely to absorb as much CO2 emissions as the Atlantic ocean off the North American East coast because the winds usually prevail eastward.


07-10-2020 01:03
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote: The rift vally was created by glacier and there are Arctic type sea life fossils in Kenya.

Yes. The point that needs corroboration is whether Kenya and everywhere else was all under ice at the same time. You are claiming they were. I claim otherwise. I claim that different spots on the earth each get their "turn" being the Greenland ice sheet as it were while their close neighbors are plush Icelands. I claim that they were never all under ice at the same time.

Since we don't have time machines, neither your speculation nor mine can be verified. It's just that my speculation doesn't make for profitable animated movies.

duncan61 wrote:So different enviroments greatly affect the temperature.

In which case are you claiming that temperature increased without any addition of energy?


duncan61 wrote:I have done hearth brazing where the work is pinned then placed in a bed of coke and heated with bellows then the lugs are bronzed welded on

Let me guess ... temperature only increases when additional energy is applied, yes?


.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
07-10-2020 01:07
Spongy Iris
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN,

Who said CO2 is heating up the entire solar system???

No one.
Spongy Iris wrote:
That is basically what you are arguing by citing the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics incessantly.

You are hallucinating. Put down the bong.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It should be pretty obvious who is the one making irrelevant comments.

You.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm just saying evidence is substantial ice levels in the Arctic have decreased significantly in the past few decades. Why do you think that is?

They aren't.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You know they never had solid proof connecting Ted Bundy to any murders. But the evidence was substantial enough to light his ass up.

Irrelevant.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Earth is not entirely a closed system.

Yes it is.
Spongy Iris wrote:
People are born everyday.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
You might want to consider it like a bicycle tire with air getting pumped into it.

So people are all aliens? I thought you said they were born here. Which is it, dude?
Spongy Iris wrote:
One more thing, please tell me how gloves can warm my hands without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

Already did. RQAA.


You're arguing that you can't add energy to a closed system.

Do you need me to spell out that people being born adds pressure to system when there was once none???


So, people dying relieves the pressure of the births. Does that include the 1500 abortion performed in America every day?

I tend to look at things from an electronic stand point, something I've work in a long time. When you have a weak signal, you need to amplify it. That can only be done, by adding energy. You get nothing for free, there is a certain cost to everything, a trade off.


Population growth tends to be exponential.

I'm not sure what the max capacity of people the planet can handle. 21 billion???

Probably depends a lot where they live.

In the US more than half the country lives in the east. That's probably by necessity. It would probably be ruinous if the West and East populations migrated to reverse those numbers.

Also, half the people in the world live 125 miles from the coast. Also probably a necessity. All those people moving to the rural inland I think would be ruinous.

So you have a problem with world population. Okay. You die first.


Looks like it's everyone's problem. You really shouldn't try to kill people just for pointing out a problem to you.


07-10-2020 01:21
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:Oceans absorb CO2,

Oceans very quickly release all the CO2 they absorb.

The technical scientific term for this used by engineers and industry professionals is "evaporation" ... which might be Latin, I don't know.

Spongy Iris wrote:The Pacific Ocean off the North American West Coast is not likely to absorb as much CO2 emissions as the Atlantic ocean off the North American East coast because the winds usually prevail eastward.

Wind direction cannot prevent precipitation and runoff from falling/flowing into the ocean. How do you believe CO2 gets into the ocean anyway?


.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
07-10-2020 01:33
duncan61
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Yes. The point that needs corroboration is whether Kenya and everywhere else was all under ice at the same time. You are claiming they were. I claim otherwise. I claim that different spots on the earth each get their "turn" being the Greenland ice sheet as it were while their close neighbors are plush Icelands. I claim that they were never all under ice at the same time.

Since we don't have time machines, neither your speculation nor mine can be verified. It's just that my speculation doesn't make for profitable animated movies.

Totally agree.Everything is spinning and moving
07-10-2020 03:01
HarveyH55
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duncan61 wrote:
Yes. The point that needs corroboration is whether Kenya and everywhere else was all under ice at the same time. You are claiming they were. I claim otherwise. I claim that different spots on the earth each get their "turn" being the Greenland ice sheet as it were while their close neighbors are plush Icelands. I claim that they were never all under ice at the same time.

Since we don't have time machines, neither your speculation nor mine can be verified. It's just that my speculation doesn't make for profitable animated movies.

Totally agree.Everything is spinning and moving


The problem people have, is we specialize, and tend to ignore everything else, that has no relationship to our fields of interest. Most people will spend their entire life, trying to comprehend every aspect of their chosen fields, but always find there are new discoveries, questions never answered, and a lot of speculations on the what and how. It's very large, dynamic world, which is also influence by things outside our atmosphere. None of us live long enough to see it all, or learn everything there is to know about this planet.
07-10-2020 04:18
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
ITN,

Who said CO2 is heating up the entire solar system???

No one.
Spongy Iris wrote:
That is basically what you are arguing by citing the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics incessantly.

You are hallucinating. Put down the bong.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It should be pretty obvious who is the one making irrelevant comments.

You.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm just saying evidence is substantial ice levels in the Arctic have decreased significantly in the past few decades. Why do you think that is?

They aren't.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You know they never had solid proof connecting Ted Bundy to any murders. But the evidence was substantial enough to light his ass up.

Irrelevant.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Earth is not entirely a closed system.

Yes it is.
Spongy Iris wrote:
People are born everyday.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
You might want to consider it like a bicycle tire with air getting pumped into it.

So people are all aliens? I thought you said they were born here. Which is it, dude?
Spongy Iris wrote:
One more thing, please tell me how gloves can warm my hands without violating the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

Already did. RQAA.


You're arguing that you can't add energy to a closed system.

Do you need me to spell out that people being born adds pressure to system when there was once none???


So, people dying relieves the pressure of the births. Does that include the 1500 abortion performed in America every day?

I tend to look at things from an electronic stand point, something I've work in a long time. When you have a weak signal, you need to amplify it. That can only be done, by adding energy. You get nothing for free, there is a certain cost to everything, a trade off.


Population growth tends to be exponential.

I'm not sure what the max capacity of people the planet can handle. 21 billion???

Probably depends a lot where they live.

In the US more than half the country lives in the east. That's probably by necessity. It would probably be ruinous if the West and East populations migrated to reverse those numbers.

Also, half the people in the world live 125 miles from the coast. Also probably a necessity. All those people moving to the rural inland I think would be ruinous.


Population is self-correcting, just like most everything else on this planet. With a higher population, more people die during pandemics, a lot quicker too. Every critter on earth fights to survive. As food, resources, territory become scares, people will slaughter those who wish to take, what is not theirs, or kill others to do the taking. People live near the coast, because of the sandy beaches, fishing, surfing chicks... Partly, because it gives them a sense of security, having the water at their back. Though that hasn't applied in a long time, but it's where most civilizations made their start, plenty of job opportunities. Inland cities are generally limited the local industries. Many have expanded into other businesses, but still a more limited job market.


Oceans absorb CO2, so it's ideal for most people to live near the coast.
They also vent CO2.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Pacific Ocean off the North American West Coast is not likely to absorb as much CO2 emissions as the Atlantic ocean off the North American East coast because the winds usually prevail eastward.

Wind is not a factor. Irrelevance fallacy.


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Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
RE: conclusions!!!18-10-2020 15:14
abdullah
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You are right. If this continues the world will come to an end. Our generations would be finished. But there are many solution to this cause. Here is the detailed description on this issue
https://globalwarmingat.blogspot.com/2020/10/globalwarming-planet-isheating-up-fast.html
Attached image:

18-10-2020 21:50
HarveyH55
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abdullah wrote:
You are right. If this continues the world will come to an end. Our generations would be finished. But there are many solution to this cause. Here is the detailed description on this issue
https://globalwarmingat.blogspot.com/2020/10/globalwarming-planet-isheating-up-fast.html


Oh NO! Scorched Earth, we are all going to die! Wait, we already know the everybody dies, eventually. Nobody has successfully lived for ever, or found a cure for death, or aging. What good would living forever be, if you couldn't feed yourself, or do much of anything. Might as well just hide in the basement, from a cold virus...

Humans a 'crafty' species, already for a warmer climate, not a lot of body hair... We also are really good with tools, and building neat stuff, that allow us to survive comfortably, in hostile environments. Most everything on the planet does pretty good in a warmer climate. We might have to change with the climate, but we are likely to adapt, like most everything else. Lizard meat taste just like chicken... Or, so I'm told
19-10-2020 01:49
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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abdullah wrote:
You are right. If this continues the world will come to an end. Our generations would be finished. But there are many solution to this cause. Here is the detailed description on this issue
https://globalwarmingat.blogspot.com/2020/10/globalwarming-planet-isheating-up-fast.html


Define 'global warming'. Define 'climate change'.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
19-10-2020 15:50
muhammadsaad
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The melting of the polar caps will result in the form of the rise of sea level and this would absolutely result in the form of disappearing of the island countries like Maldives, Australia, New Zealand etc. It means that our population will be slowly and gradually finished. For more detail click here https://201256saad.blogspot.com/2020/10/global-warming-causes-and-effects.html
19-10-2020 21:12
HarveyH55
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muhammadsaad wrote:
The melting of the polar caps will result in the form of the rise of sea level and this would absolutely result in the form of disappearing of the island countries like Maldives, Australia, New Zealand etc. It means that our population will be slowly and gradually finished. For more detail click here https://201256saad.blogspot.com/2020/10/global-warming-causes-and-effects.html


Hasn't happened yet, not even close. The great prophet Al Gore, predicted all gone, along with the polar bears and penguins. Not sure why he was picking on the poor critters, neither eat ice...

It's the magic ozone holes at the poles, that keep it cold, and preserves the frozen wastelands.
19-10-2020 23:39
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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muhammadsaad wrote:
The melting of the polar caps will result in the form of the rise of sea level

Arctic ice is floating. Melting ice that is floating does not change the level of the liquid it is floating in. The Arctic ice is not melting.
muhammadsaad wrote:
and this would absolutely result in the form of disappearing of the island countries like Maldives, Australia, New Zealand etc.

They are all still there. Their coastlines haven't changed significantly.
muhammadsaad wrote:
It means that our population will be slowly and gradually finished.
...deleted scripture from the Church of Global Warming...

Doom and Gloom predictions from scripture are not a proof they will come about.


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Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
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