Remember me
▼ Content

Plant Growth and Ice Cores


Plant Growth and Ice Cores17-09-2019 17:39
HarveyH55
★★★★☆
(1347)
https://www.noaa.gov/news/study-global-plant-growth-surging-alongside-carbon-dioxide

Was looking for some actual studies, possibly videos of CO2 levels and plant growth. I'm really hating climate change and Google, bastards... Anyway, figure the above article might be of interest, or tax dollars paid for it, might as well get my money's worth. Anyway, apparently, there is a trace gas release by plants, part of photosynthesis (guess there is more to it, than the Bill Nye version). Carbonyl Sulfide, which is measured in the parts per trillion. They are able to measure global plant growth, in response to global warming, climate change, apocalypse, or what ever the politically correct term is these days. Even better, they can measure this stuff in ice cores sample, and trace plant growth back 54,000 years. I'm not sure why they stop there, they get something like 600,000 years worth of CO2 from ice cores, or maybe the had to step back a few years...

First I read about this stuff, will have to add it to the list of shady climate science, maybe look for it some more another time. Parts per trillion, from a sample pulled out of thin air... Science fiction? I have trouble with CO2 measurements, and they are parts per million. This one really sounds to be over reaching, big time. Doesn't say if carbonyl sulfide is only made by plants, stability, or if anything uses it for anything. I'd bet it's a greenhouse gas though, maybe even more powerful than man-made CO2, from which goes into creating it. All seems made up to me, our tax dollars at work...
17-09-2019 18:20
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(4906)
HarveyH55 wrote:They are able to measure global plant growth, in response to global warming, climate change, apocalypse, or what ever the politically correct term is these days. Even better, they can measure this stuff in ice cores sample, and trace plant growth back 54,000 years.

That's because there weren't any plants prior to 54,000 years ago. It's scientific. It's the power of proxy measurements and of "The Data"!

HarveyH55 wrote: Doesn't say if carbonyl sulfide is only made by plants, stability, or if anything uses it for anything. I'd bet it's a greenhouse gas though, maybe even more powerful than man-made CO2, from which goes into creating it.

Of course it's a powerful Greenhouse Gas! Carbonyl sulfide probably started the whole Global Warming thing 54,000 years ago. I took the following from Wikipedia so you know it's true:

From Wikipedia: Measurements on the Antarctica ice cores and from air trapped in snow above glaciers (firn air) have provided a detailed picture of Carbonyl Sulfide (OCS) concentrations from 1640 to the present day and allow an understanding of the relative importance of anthropogenic and non-anthropogenic sources of this gas to the atmosphere.[6] Some carbonyl sulfide that is transported into the stratospheric sulfate layer is oxidized to sulfuric acid.[7] Sulfuric acid forms particulate which affects energy balance due to light scattering.[8] The long atmospheric lifetime of COS makes it the major source of stratospheric sulfate, though sulfur dioxide from volcanic activity can be significant too.[8] Carbonyl sulfide is also removed from the atmosphere by terrestrial vegetation by enzymes associated with the uptake of carbon dioxide during photosynthesis, and by hydrolysis in ocean waters.[9][10] Loss processes, such as these, limit the persistence (or lifetime) of a molecule of COS in the atmosphere to a few years.


I hope you caught that "affects energy balance" assertion which is warmizombie-speak for "it causes Global Warming! Panic! Fear!"

Essentially, plants are attacking us by hurling sulfuric acid into the atmosphere. It's us or them. I'm sorry Greenpeace but you are on the wrong side of this issue.


.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-09-2019 20:33
keepit
★★★☆☆
(598)
Didn't someone have a possible plan to put sulfates into the upper atmosphere to reduce the incoming light and thereby reduce global warming?
17-09-2019 20:44
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(9573)
keepit wrote:
Didn't someone have a possible plan to put sulfates into the upper atmosphere to reduce the incoming light and thereby reduce global warming?


So you want to burn fuel to get sulfates up into the atmosphere to compensate for the burning of fuel??? You realize they won't stay there, you know.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 17-09-2019 20:45
17-09-2019 20:51
keepit
★★★☆☆
(598)
I didn't say anything like that. It was a straightforward question.
17-09-2019 20:56
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(9573)
keepit wrote:
I didn't say anything like that. It was a straightforward question.


Okay. I'll consider it more of your random wanderings that have no purpose in answering.


The Parrot Killer
17-09-2019 22:45
HarveyH55
★★★★☆
(1347)
IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:They are able to measure global plant growth, in response to global warming, climate change, apocalypse, or what ever the politically correct term is these days. Even better, they can measure this stuff in ice cores sample, and trace plant growth back 54,000 years.

That's because there weren't any plants prior to 54,000 years ago. It's scientific. It's the power of proxy measurements and of "The Data"!

HarveyH55 wrote: Doesn't say if carbonyl sulfide is only made by plants, stability, or if anything uses it for anything. I'd bet it's a greenhouse gas though, maybe even more powerful than man-made CO2, from which goes into creating it.

Of course it's a powerful Greenhouse Gas! Carbonyl sulfide probably started the whole Global Warming thing 54,000 years ago. I took the following from Wikipedia so you know it's true:

From Wikipedia: Measurements on the Antarctica ice cores and from air trapped in snow above glaciers (firn air) have provided a detailed picture of Carbonyl Sulfide (OCS) concentrations from 1640 to the present day and allow an understanding of the relative importance of anthropogenic and non-anthropogenic sources of this gas to the atmosphere.[6] Some carbonyl sulfide that is transported into the stratospheric sulfate layer is oxidized to sulfuric acid.[7] Sulfuric acid forms particulate which affects energy balance due to light scattering.[8] The long atmospheric lifetime of COS makes it the major source of stratospheric sulfate, though sulfur dioxide from volcanic activity can be significant too.[8] Carbonyl sulfide is also removed from the atmosphere by terrestrial vegetation by enzymes associated with the uptake of carbon dioxide during photosynthesis, and by hydrolysis in ocean waters.[9][10] Loss processes, such as these, limit the persistence (or lifetime) of a molecule of COS in the atmosphere to a few years.


I hope you caught that "affects energy balance" assertion which is warmizombie-speak for "it causes Global Warming! Panic! Fear!"

Essentially, plants are attacking us by hurling sulfuric acid into the atmosphere. It's us or them. I'm sorry Greenpeace but you are on the wrong side of this issue.


.


I was pretty sure the article I linked, said that plants produced Carbonyl sulfide, not suck it out of the air, like CO2. Wonder if it works like orgone gas...

But really though, it's measured in parts per trillion, so it must be thousands times more potent than man-made CO2. How come I just stumbled upon the major threat to life on the planet. Should we all rush out and buy gallons of Round-Up, and start killing plants? Oh, wait, Round-Up causes cancer...




Join the debate Plant Growth and Ice Cores:

Remember me

Related content
ThreadsRepliesLast post
ice melting223-06-2019 19:52
Temperatures leap 40 degrees above normal as the Arctic Ocean and Greenland ice sheet see record June mel318-06-2019 06:22
Siberian ice melting!012-06-2019 21:32
Ice3409-06-2019 20:26
Mike Pompeo: Melting Arctic Ice Presents New Trade Opportunities028-05-2019 15:33
▲ Top of page
Public Poll
Who is leading the renewable energy race?

US

EU

China

Japan

India

Brazil

Other

Don't know


Thanks for supporting Climate-Debate.com.
Copyright © 2009-2019 Climate-Debate.com | About | Contact