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Petition to pressure governments to save the planet and humankind23-08-2019 17:28
BenVM
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Brazil is on fire!
The rainforest, the lungs of this planet, is burning! Scientists have proven that when these fires reach a point of no return, the entire Amazon could be turned into savanna, which would be disastrous for this planet. This is simply one of the examples caused by climate change. The point of no return is close, but it's not too late yet!

Let's act together! Help the planet and humankind by signing here: http://chng.it/ntM2qhYfQC


People, we have to act now! We should have acted years ago but I'm positive, it's not too late yet. Since political action is not going to happen any time soon, we need a (non-violent) revolution by the people. Let's act now to fix our planet, humanity and ensure our grandchildren a future that is not post-apocalyptic. Governments and multinationals cannot **** over the planet like this anymore! We have to work together, bring people together so that the 1% that rules the planet have to hear our voices, and so that there will be a livable planet 50 years from now! We live in a beautiful world, let's keep it like that!
One way to demand politicians to implement changes, is by letting our voices be heard, not separately, but all together. Currently, the Belgian (but also many other governments) are lagging behind with regard to halting or diminishing the effects of climate change. This needs to change, since, many scientific studies agree that if we continue like this, the chance is extremely high that 50 years from now, we will still have a planet, but without humans. Therefore, competent people should be in charge of the positions of 'minister of environment and sustainable development'.
Who's with me? Let's save the planet and ourselves before it's too late!
23-08-2019 17:30
BenVM
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Also help this same petition get attention from the USA government:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/implement-and-prioritise-policies-urgently-combat-impacts-climate-change-1

thanks in advance!
23-08-2019 17:54
HarveyH55
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I think most countries are lagging, mostly because the really don't buy it. The signs, the end of the world, as prophesied by the Nobel Prize winner, Al Gore, never happened, and it was settled science! There was even a consensus of nearly 3,000 climatologist, that it was all accurate and true. We should have had a scorched earth 10 years ago...

Forest fires are natural, normal, and generally good for the environment. It's natures landscaping service. The get worse, mainly, because environmentalist don't want anyone messing with the delicate ecosystems. Don't know where some people emerged from, 30 or so years hiding in their parent's basement maybe. The planet is constantly changing, always has, always will. It's unnatural to try and keep everything the same, or expect everything to stay pretty as we remembered it. Through out history, there have been catastrophic events, and life goes on. Most people get over it, every other living thing, just goes on living, enjoy the brief time we have at life. Nature can be really brutal at times, why would we want to torture ourselves, with a whole lot of wasted resources, money, time, fighting something, we can not change? Socialism isn't the answer to any problem, just causes more death and suffering. Somebody has to pay for it all, usually that price is paid in human lives, and not a pleasant way to die. I'd prefer to die naturally.
23-08-2019 19:22
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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BenVM wrote: Brazil is on fire!

Tell me about it. Hot babes on every corner, behind every tree, in every car, ... tell me something I don't know.

BenVM wrote: The rainforest, the lungs of this planet, is burning!

The rain forest is soaking up more than its fair share of the precious little plant food (CO2) in our atmosphere. I take it that now, after sufficient rain forest has been slashed and burned that there will be more life-essential CO2 for the rest of the plants, especially for the plants that provide us food ... and that provide food for the animals that become our food.

OK, I'm with you.

BenVM wrote: Scientists have proven ...

Great, you are scientifically illiterate. You don't even know what a scientist is.

BenVM wrote: ... that when these fires reach a point of no return, the entire Amazon could be turned into savanna,

@Into the Night, apparently terraforming is possible. It's been proven by scientists. Are you getting all this?

BenVM wrote: ... which would be disastrous for this planet.

... because it will undoubtedly throw the planet out of orbit and hurl it to the sun.

BenVM wrote: This is simply one of the examples caused by climate change.

I thought it was caused by capitalism. Now you have me confused.


BenVM wrote: The point of no return is close, but it's not too late yet!

From The MANUAL:

Tipping Point: noun
In Global Warming Settled Science, the point at which Climate will be forced to recreate the Christian "Great Flood" by the end of the century, i.e. oceans will rise 15 cubits, extreme weather will kill all life on the planet, there will be a big rainbow afterwards, etc..

BenVM wrote: People, we have to act now! We should have acted years ago but I'm positive, it's not too late yet.

I'm going to act now. I will eat a burrito. You do not have to twist my arm. I do not need any additional motivation.

I also signed the petition. I bumped the headcount (of people who signed) to eleven.

BenVM wrote: Since political action is not going to happen any time soon,

Hey, aren't you listening? I said that I just signed the petition. I didn't say that I will do it next summer or at some indefinite future time; I signed it immediately. We're getting this ball rolling. We are acting NOW.

BenVM wrote: ... we need a (non-violent) revolution by the people.

What? No Rammstein? No imposing our will by force? No ANITFA? No BLM? No "Occupy Brazil"? I hope you realize that you are promoting heresy.

BenVM wrote: Let's act now to fix our planet, humanity and ensure our grandchildren a future that is not post-apocalyptic.

I got my tools. Where do we start.

BenVM wrote: Governments and multinationals cannot **** over the planet like this anymore!

So they're the ones who hurled the earth into the sun. I was wondering who is responsible but I couldn't find it on Wikipedia.

BenVM wrote: We have to work together, bring people together so that the 1% that rules the planet have to hear our voices, and so that there will be a livable planet 50 years from now!

1) How do I know whether I am in the "1%"?
2) How do you know I'm not?

BenVM wrote: We live in a beautiful world, let's keep it like that!

Wait! I thought it was "**** over" and that we needed to fix it. Now you're telling me that it's fine and dandy, that it's beautiful and that it is not totally "****" by anyone.

Shouldn't you have more than one sentence separating egregiously contradicting assertions? You know, obfuscate it so it's not so obvious?

BenVM wrote: One way to demand politicians to implement changes, is by letting our voices be heard,

In writing?


BenVM wrote: Currently, the Belgian (but also many other governments) are lagging behind with regard to halting or diminishing the effects of climate change.

That's because Belgium doesn't understand what a government is. Belgium entered the Guiness Book of World Records in September 2011 by going 541 days without any government whatsoever. It is a federal representative democratic constitutional monarchy (good luck figuring that out) in which half the country doesn't want to speak the language of the other half and vice-versa.

But you're telling me that you somehow expect Belgium to make progress on something? How exactly would that happen?

BenVM wrote: This needs to change, since, many scientific studies agree that if we continue like this, the chance is extremely high that 50 years from now, we will still have a planet, but without humans.

None of those studies are scientific.

BenVM wrote: Who's with me? Let's save the planet and ourselves before it's too late!

I just had a brilliant idea. Let's save Belgium first! Then we can build on that success and expand to saving the entire planet.

If we cannot save Belgium then we can always just let it fly into the sun and press on.

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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
23-08-2019 20:11
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
BenVM wrote: ... that when these fires reach a point of no return, the entire Amazon could be turned into savanna,

@Into the Night, apparently terraforming is possible. It's been proven by scientists. Are you getting all this?





The Parrot Killer
23-08-2019 20:27
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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BenVM wrote:
Brazil is on fire!
The rainforest, the lungs of this planet, is burning!

Rainforest is not a lung. Forest fires are normal. I suppose you want to stop all lightning storms, which lit most of these fires.
BenVM wrote:
Scientists have proven that when these fires reach a point of no return, the entire Amazon could be turned into savanna, which would be disastrous for this planet.

It is not possible to terraform a planet. BTW, did you know grass produces oxygen too? It's more efficient at it than trees.
BenVM wrote:
This is simply one of the examples caused by climate change.

Define 'climate change'.
BenVM wrote:
The point of no return is close, but it's not too late yet!

There is no 'tipping point'.
BenVM wrote:
Let's act together! Help the planet and humankind by signing here: http://chng.it/ntM2qhYfQC

Do you really a petition is going to do anything? What a rube.
BenVM wrote:
People, we have to act now!

And do what?
BenVM wrote:
We should have acted years ago but I'm positive, it's not too late yet.

And do what?
BenVM wrote:
Since political action is not going to happen any time soon, we need a (non-violent) revolution by the people.

And do what?
BenVM wrote:
Let's act now to fix our planet,

It isn't broken.
BenVM wrote:
humanity and ensure our grandchildren a future that is not post-apocalyptic.

The apocalypse is predicted by the Bible. Are you going against the word of God?
BenVM wrote:
Governments and multinationals cannot **** over the planet like this anymore!

They are not God. So you think they've made the Earth unlivable. Guess you should just lay down and die then.
BenVM wrote:
We have to work together, bring people together so that the 1% that rules the planet have to hear our voices, and so that there will be a livable planet 50 years from now!

You really think they have this godlike power? What a rube.
BenVM wrote:
We live in a beautiful world, let's keep it like that!

Wait...what? Now you say it's a beautiful world??? Guess those multinationals and governments are doing a pretty good job then!
BenVM wrote:
One way to demand politicians to implement changes, is by letting our voices be heard, not separately, but all together.

You are obviously confused. You are denying your own arguments.
BenVM wrote:
Currently, the Belgian (but also many other governments) are lagging behind with regard to halting or diminishing the effects of climate change.

Define 'climate change'.
BenVM wrote:
This needs to change,

You can start by defining 'climate change'.
BenVM wrote:
since, many scientific studies agree that if we continue like this,

Science is not a study or a research program. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Science does not use consensus. It is obvious you are making shit up.
BenVM wrote:
the chance is extremely high that 50 years from now, we will still have a planet, but without humans.

Science isn't a casino either. Try another set of Holy Entrails. They may tell you something different.
BenVM wrote:
Therefore, competent people should be in charge of the positions of 'minister of environment and sustainable development'.

There is no world government.
BenVM wrote:
Who's with me? Let's save the planet and ourselves before it's too late!

What do you want to do?


The Parrot Killer
23-08-2019 22:07
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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BenVM wrote:Brazil is on fire!
The rainforest, the lungs of this planet, is burning! Scientists have proven that when these fires reach a point of no return, the entire Amazon could be turned into savanna, which would be disastrous for this planet. This is simply one of the examples caused by climate change. The point of no return is close, but it's not too late yet!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtaMo8EgzJE&t=15m35s

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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
23-08-2019 23:09
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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BenVM wrote:
Also help this same petition get attention from the USA government:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/implement-and-prioritise-policies-urgently-combat-impacts-climate-change-1

thanks in advance!


Thank you BenVM!

Brazil has the worst leadership imaginable with Bolsonaro. They definitely need out support.
24-08-2019 03:15
HarveyH55
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Since it's a rain forest, how come the rain isn't putting out the fire? It worked in California last year...
24-08-2019 03:31
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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So it's a "bad year" but I thought for a minute this never happened down there



I think the movie Ferngully may have been inaccurate.
24-08-2019 05:16
HarveyH55
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Wonder how much CO2 Brazil is adding to the atmosphere... How many years sooner is the world going to burn up because of this massive fire. Maybe the IPCC has simulated, and updated their doomsday prediction...

It's stuff like this, that illustrates why spending a couple hundred trillion dollars on climate change makes no sense. Even if we do everything in our power, there will still be fires, volcanoes, rotting flesh to produce mass quantities of CO2, to counter our efforts.

We get hit by meteors constantly, some of them hit the ground. All these space rocks must have some influence in the atmosphere. The vast majority burn up, must leave a trail of something behind, not to mention the heat, the incredible heat they must be contributing to warming the planet. Those space rocks come in all sizes, who's to say a really big one won't slam into us occasionally, mess up our CO2 plans. We keep launching crap into orbit, some of it's got to come crashing down. Really surprised those evil Chinese or Russians haven't been doing it already, maybe saving it for a special occasion. Doesn't that really tell you something about propaganda? We don't trust them, their sneaky, yet they don't mess with our space stuff. The Russians run taxi service for our space station crews, and a lot of cargo too, technical stuff they could be stealing. Yet, they they would go to great length to meddle in a presidential election, which the out come would have been a coin toss anyway. Still think Clinton would have been their favorite, they had a previous relationship, which worked well for them, cheap too.




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