one sick person (covid)

HarveyH55 wrote:
I mess up on numbers with a lot of zeros, and think you missed a couple. Should be more like 1 in 8 million... You got a better chance of being struck by lightning in Florida, or bitten by a shark. Well, maybe not you, since that would never happen in your basement. Still, you have a better chance of dying from covid, than winning the lottery. Assuming, of course, you actually stepped outside, and went to your local 7-11, to buy a ticket. Then again, you might get struck by lightning, or catch covid...

keepit wrote:
Less than a year ago there was the first infection of covid.

keepit wrote:
That one infection has led to 1 million deaths and 33 million cases

keepit wrote:
and don't forget about the candle hypothesis.

keepit wrote:
Still 1 million deaths is only one out of about 8000 people in the world. Not much chance of getting covid and dying you say. I agree -for now.

keepit wrote:
Take just one of those 1 million deaths or one of those 33 million cases - take just one of the current cases and think about what one case has done to the world population. One of those current cases can start the whole process over and cause another 1 million additional deaths and 33 million additional cases. And every other current case can lead to the same additional 1 million deaths and 33 million additional cases and so on and so on. And don't forget about the candle hypothesis.

gfm7175 wrote:

keepit wrote:
Less than a year ago there was the first infection of covid.

Okay.

keepit wrote:
That one infection has led to 1 million deaths and 33 million cases

No it hasn't. You are fear mongering again, as well as falling for the globalist scam.

keepit wrote:
and don't forget about the candle hypothesis.

What about it?

keepit wrote:
Still 1 million deaths is only one out of about 8000 people in the world. Not much chance of getting covid and dying you say. I agree -for now.

Yup, the chances are very low.

keepit wrote:
Take just one of those 1 million deaths or one of those 33 million cases - take just one of the current cases and think about what one case has done to the world population. One of those current cases can start the whole process over and cause another 1 million additional deaths and 33 million additional cases. And every other current case can lead to the same additional 1 million deaths and 33 million additional cases and so on and so on. And don't forget about the candle hypothesis.

You're completely ignoring the existence of the immune system as well as herd immunity.

keepit wrote:
People that die of covid would have lived longer had they not gotten covid. It's that simple.

keepit wrote:
Gas,
It sounds like you don't want to contribute to the welfare of the weak, the old, and the sick. If young people don't take care of the weak, the old, and the sick, who's going to take care of the young when they become weak and old and sick?

Also, if you think i'm enjoying the destruction of a strong economy that took years and decades to build, you're full of beans.

keepit wrote:
Gas,
It sounds like you don't want to contribute to the welfare of the weak, the old, and the sick. If young people don't take care of the weak, the old, and the sick, who's going to take care of the young when they become weak and old and sick?

Also, if you think i'm enjoying the destruction of a strong economy that took years and decades to build, you're full of beans.

keepit wrote:
Good point Spongy Iris. Your stats say that florida is 5 times as dangerous as the rest of the world.

keepit wrote:
Less than a year ago there was the first infection of covid. That one infection has led to 1 million deaths and 33 million cases

keepit wrote:
and don't forget about the candle hypothesis.

keepit wrote:
Still 1 million deaths is only one out of about 8000 people in the world. Not much chance of getting covid and dying you say. I agree -for now. Take just one of those 1 million deaths or one of those 33 million cases - take just one of the current cases and think about what one case has done to the world population. One of those current cases can start the whole process over and cause another 1 million additional deaths and 33 million additional cases.

keepit wrote:
And every other current case can lead to the same additional 1 million deaths and 33 million additional cases and so on and so on. And don't forget about the candle hypothesis.

Spongy Iris wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I mess up on numbers with a lot of zeros, and think you missed a couple. Should be more like 1 in 8 million... You got a better chance of being struck by lightning in Florida, or bitten by a shark. Well, maybe not you, since that would never happen in your basement. Still, you have a better chance of dying from covid, than winning the lottery. Assuming, of course, you actually stepped outside, and went to your local 7-11, to buy a ticket. Then again, you might get struck by lightning, or catch covid...

1,000,000 ÷ 8,000,000,000 × 8,000 = 1

1 in 8,000 for Globe.

In FL there now says 659 deaths per 1 million people.

659 ÷ 1,000,000 × 8,000 = 5

5 in 8,000 for FL

Stats courtesy of WORLDOMETER

keepit wrote:
Good point Spongy Iris. Your stats say that florida is 5 times as dangerous as the rest of the world.

HarveyH55 wrote:
How is it determined, that Covid-19 actually was the cause of death of 200,000 Americans? The vast majority of fatalities, list two or more possible causes. The majority of fatalities, were of elderly people, with one or more chronic health issues. Would these people have died, had they not been infected, specifically with Covid-19? Would they have died, had they been infected with any respiratory infection? How many simply listed Covid-19, because the test came back positive, even if there were no symptom or sign of infection? I'd bet money, that the actual number of deaths from Covid-19, is extremely low, in the 10,000 range. Death certificates just get branded Covid-19, as a tag, for future reference.

keepit wrote:
People that die of covid would have lived longer had they not gotten covid. It's that simple.

keepit wrote:
Gas,
It sounds like you don't want to contribute to the welfare of the weak, the old, and the sick. If young people don't take care of the weak, the old, and the sick, who's going to take care of the young when they become weak and old and sick?

keepit wrote:
Also, if you think i'm enjoying the destruction of a strong economy that took years and decades to build, you're full of beans.

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
People that die of covid would have lived longer had they not gotten covid. It's that simple.

No one has died of Covid19. This virus does not kill.

GasGuzzler wrote:

keepit wrote:
Gas,
It sounds like you don't want to contribute to the welfare of the weak, the old, and the sick. If young people don't take care of the weak, the old, and the sick, who's going to take care of the young when they become weak and old and sick?

Also, if you think i'm enjoying the destruction of a strong economy that took years and decades to build, you're full of beans.

You had better define "contribution ".
At what cost?
What is a fair amount?
Is it money?
Is it my time?
My job?
My business?
My family?

What sacrifice must I make for someone I've never met in order for you to be satisfied with my "contribution "?

keepit wrote:
Gas,
Just let the politicians decide those things.

GasGuzzler wrote:

keepit wrote:
Gas,
Just let the politicians decide those things.

Is that seriously your answer?
Give me some answers or this is my new signature line.

keepit wrote:
People that die of covid would have lived longer had they not gotten covid. It's that simple.

James___ wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

keepit wrote:
Gas,
Just let the politicians decide those things.

Is that seriously your answer?
Give me some answers or this is my new signature line.

He is right, you know. Politicians ask us to vote for their agenda. And if they get elected, they say it's a mandate of the people to legitimize their personal agenda.
After this election, I'll probably change my voter registration to Independent. While (R) Congressman Andy Barr has helped me, he doesn't understand that the medical community needs oversight.
If doctors cannot be held responsible for their negligence, then how can we hope to have better healthcare like President Trump says we should have? Our Honorable President Trump has said that many countries besides Australia has better healthcare than what we do.
And yet the Dumbocrats can't ask President Trump why he's not trying to make our healthcare better like those countries that he likes talking about?

Spongy Iris wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
People that die of covid would have lived longer had they not gotten covid. It's that simple.

No one has died of Covid19. This virus does not kill.

Interesting comment. What does the virus do?

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:

keepit wrote:
Gas,
Just let the politicians decide those things.

Is that seriously your answer?
Give me some answers or this is my new signature line.

He is right, you know. Politicians ask us to vote for their agenda. And if they get elected, they say it's a mandate of the people to legitimize their personal agenda.
After this election, I'll probably change my voter registration to Independent. While (R) Congressman Andy Barr has helped me, he doesn't understand that the medical community needs oversight.
If doctors cannot be held responsible for their negligence, then how can we hope to have better healthcare like President Trump says we should have? Our Honorable President Trump has said that many countries besides Australia has better healthcare than what we do.
And yet the Dumbocrats can't ask President Trump why he's not trying to make our healthcare better like those countries that he likes talking about?

We do have great doctors and hospitals. Health insurance, isn't health care. Health insurance, is what drove up the cost of health care, to where you can't afford to see a doctor, unless you have insurance. Most people are healthy, responsible, so are paying in quite a bit of money, for a service they rarely need. Quite a few of them will die, before they get any value, from the money they paid in. Legislators don't want to create affordable health care, just mandate more people pay, for a service, they may never need.

James___ wrote:
And now that President Trump has Covid 19 and in his age group, something like a 14% mortality rate, for that matter, Melania has it as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-he-and-the-first-lady-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19-054718866.html

Spongy Iris wrote:

James___ wrote:
And now that President Trump has Covid 19 and in his age group, something like a 14% mortality rate, for that matter, Melania has it as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-he-and-the-first-lady-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19-054718866.html

I wonder if he will be able to finish the debates...

HarveyH55 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
People that die of covid would have lived longer had they not gotten covid. It's that simple.

No one has died of Covid19. This virus does not kill.

Interesting comment. What does the virus do?

Covid-19 causes your blood to boil, you organs to melt, the skin eventually ruptures, spraying infectious goo in a twenty foot radius. A horrible, ghastly way to die, or even witness. Since even on tiny, aerosol droplet landing on you, is a similar, certain death.

James___ wrote:
And now that President Trump has Covid 19 and in his age group, something like a 14% mortality rate, for that matter, Melania has it as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-he-and-the-first-lady-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19-054718866.html

James___ wrote:
And now that President Trump has Covid 19 and in his age group, something like a 14% mortality rate, for that matter, Melania has it as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-he-and-the-first-lady-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19-054718866.html

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:
And now that President Trump has Covid 19 and in his age group, something like a 14% mortality rate, for that matter, Melania has it as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-he-and-the-first-lady-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19-054718866.html

Other than being a little over weight, Trump doesn't have any chronic health issues, that we know about. It's just a cold virus, should be fine with the White House medical team closely monitoring. The mortality rate is more directly tied to the other medical issues a patient brings with them, and how long it took them to seek medical attention. We've had quite a few people in their 90s beat the apocalyptic plague, here in Florida.

Trump can beat Covid-19, he'll beat the hell out of Biden. How could anyone fear the cold virus, after POTUS, at 74 got through it, no problem? Got a hunch face-masks, and all the restrictions crap, will be come a lot less popular, even among many of those basement-dwelling democrats.

James___ wrote:
If he goes to Walter Reed Medical Center, that's government healthcare and if he survives Covid 19, then it would show that government healthcare can provide high quality medical care at less cost than what people obtain through private insurance.