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Omicron02-12-2021 20:23
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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The latest, the greatest, and just in time for Christmas...

Was Discovered Nov. 9th, South Africa. Three weeks later, it has spread to 26 countries. All confirmed cases, were fully vaccinated. 15 cases from a soccer team, where only one player had traveled to South Africa. One case in northern California.

I just got home from work, and have look to see if there is anything new.

Seems pretty obvious it's vaccine evasive. Contagious, and travels well. The travel ban on South Africa is a wasted effort. The covid, is already out of the bag. Think they only found recent cases, off flight lists. Just what they could track down. Seems likely this one is really going to be a bugger by Christmas, now that every country knows what to look for, there will be a lot of 'new' cases. Sort of odd, that the doubled-down on the urgency for everyone to get vaccinated/booster shots. Clearly, Omicron is evasive, and will require a new vaccine. No renewed restrictions. No lock-downs. Apparently no attempt to contain this new, evasive variant. Just, 'let's wait a few weeks, and see what happens'. Sort of what Florida did last year... If the vaccine is now worthless. Why keep pushing the crap? Joe just bought 400 million more doses. Wonder if Pfizer has a return policy... Of course, it's here in America... Well, California. Arrived Nov. 22, just in time for Thanksgiving, with Grandma. No big deal, since all were fully vaccinated, right?

Guessing the new variant, made a timely debut, since Midterm elections are next year. Covid 1.0 was instrumental in stealing the 2020 elections. Too bad Andrew Cuomo had to get caught groping. He could have broken his 47,000 dead grandma record. Least I have a job, that is considered essential, and don't expect any disruptions. One good thing about a vaccine evasive strain, should sink Lord Biden's vaccine mandate.
02-12-2021 20:29
keepit
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Most cases have been mild and occurring in vaccinated people. You have to wonder how serious the illness would have been had they not been vaccinated?
I guess we'll find that out in the coming days and weeks.
02-12-2021 22:11
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Most cases have been mild and occurring in vaccinated people. You have to wonder how serious the illness would have been had they not been vaccinated?
I guess we'll find that out in the coming days and weeks.


No, you won't. Making up numbers and using them as data is a fallacy, dude.

There is no 'Omicron variant'. You can't have a variant of a variant.

Paradox V.


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02-12-2021 22:14
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
The latest, the greatest, and just in time for Christmas...

Was Discovered Nov. 9th, South Africa. Three weeks later, it has spread to 26 countries. All confirmed cases, were fully vaccinated. 15 cases from a soccer team, where only one player had traveled to South Africa. One case in northern California.

I just got home from work, and have look to see if there is anything new.

Seems pretty obvious it's vaccine evasive. Contagious, and travels well. The travel ban on South Africa is a wasted effort. The covid, is already out of the bag. Think they only found recent cases, off flight lists. Just what they could track down. Seems likely this one is really going to be a bugger by Christmas, now that every country knows what to look for, there will be a lot of 'new' cases. Sort of odd, that the doubled-down on the urgency for everyone to get vaccinated/booster shots. Clearly, Omicron is evasive, and will require a new vaccine. No renewed restrictions. No lock-downs. Apparently no attempt to contain this new, evasive variant. Just, 'let's wait a few weeks, and see what happens'. Sort of what Florida did last year... If the vaccine is now worthless. Why keep pushing the crap? Joe just bought 400 million more doses. Wonder if Pfizer has a return policy... Of course, it's here in America... Well, California. Arrived Nov. 22, just in time for Thanksgiving, with Grandma. No big deal, since all were fully vaccinated, right?

Guessing the new variant, made a timely debut, since Midterm elections are next year. Covid 1.0 was instrumental in stealing the 2020 elections. Too bad Andrew Cuomo had to get caught groping. He could have broken his 47,000 dead grandma record. Least I have a job, that is considered essential, and don't expect any disruptions. One good thing about a vaccine evasive strain, should sink Lord Biden's vaccine mandate.


The cases blamed on the 'Omicron variant' are just made up. It's designed to cancel Thanksgiving and Christmas and will probably be used in 2022 to scare people into voting by mail for the midterms.

The 'Delta variant' was getting long in the tooth. It was time to come up with a new one.


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Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

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Edited on 02-12-2021 22:28
02-12-2021 23:47
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keepit wrote:Most cases have been mild and occurring in vaccinated people. You have to wonder how serious the illness would have been had they not been vaccinated?

No wondering is required. Without vaccination the probability is that they would not have symptoms and would not even know that they have it. In some cases, however, there would be mild symptoms and they would be aware that they have it.

It's just a mild flu. We've all had the flu. This one is much milder than most.

keepit wrote:I guess we'll find that out in the coming days and weeks.

I'll put my money where my mouth is. Tell me where I can find it in my region and I'll go there without any facemask and hyperventilate.

Give it to me. I don't mind not having any symptoms and not even knowing that I have it. Besides, I prefer natural immunity over vaccination placebos.

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03-12-2021 00:03
keepit
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Maybe omicron was designed to make the paranoid even more paranoid.
03-12-2021 00:26
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keepit wrote:Maybe omicron was designed to make the paranoid even more paranoid.

Omicron was not designed. It was authored, like a bad screenplay, and directed by leftist politicians.
03-12-2021 03:29
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keepit wrote:
Most cases have been mild and occurring in vaccinated people. You have to wonder how serious the illness would have been had they not been vaccinated?
I guess we'll find that out in the coming days and weeks.


The vaccine failed. They all still got sick. Covid has always been a mild infection for the healthy. The severe cases have be main people who were in poor health to begin with. People that normally wind up in the hospital during cold and flu season.

If you think back to the beginning of the pandemic. It was cold and flu season, and nobody knew any different. We didn't even know we had cases in America, until it hit a nursing home. We need to shove a Q-Tip up the nose, just to decide if it's covid, or just a regular cold or flu. Regardless of which breed of covid you catch, the symptoms are mild. Unless you are a medical-mess, and at high-risk for pretty much any sort of infection. Basically, the covid crisis, has always been about protecting the chronically ill, from any kind of infection, at any cost. The cost, hasn't been just the trillions of dollars squandered, but our freedoms, liberties, and the 2020 elections.

Even though we have multiple crisis's plaguing this country, and spending trillions to address them. The democrat party continues to push their expensive, socialist agenda. More free stuff, climate change, redistribution of wealth.

We know that covid isn't any worse than a cold. 48 million confirmed cases, 777,000 deaths, 0.6% fatalities. We know that the fatalities are just people who died, and had also tested positive, regardless of the primary cause, and should be much lower, and has yet to be adjusted, to eliminate cases obviously unrelated to infection. Like car accidents, gunshot wounds, heart attack, strokes...
03-12-2021 17:03
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HarveyH55 wrote:
The latest, the greatest, and just in time for Christmas...

Was Discovered Nov. 9th, South Africa. Three weeks later, it has spread to 26 countries. All confirmed cases, were fully vaccinated. 15 cases from a soccer team, where only one player had traveled to South Africa. One case in northern California.

Thank you for your willingness to say the quiet part out loud. "Pandemic of the unvaccinated", eh??


HarveyH55 wrote:
I just got home from work, and have look to see if there is anything new.

Seems pretty obvious it's vaccine evasive. Contagious, and travels well. The travel ban on South Africa is a wasted effort. The covid, is already out of the bag. Think they only found recent cases, off flight lists. Just what they could track down. Seems likely this one is really going to be a bugger by Christmas, now that every country knows what to look for, there will be a lot of 'new' cases. Sort of odd, that the doubled-down on the urgency for everyone to get vaccinated/booster shots. Clearly, Omicron is evasive, and will require a new vaccine. No renewed restrictions. No lock-downs. Apparently no attempt to contain this new, evasive variant. Just, 'let's wait a few weeks, and see what happens'. Sort of what Florida did last year... If the vaccine is now worthless. Why keep pushing the crap? Joe just bought 400 million more doses. Wonder if Pfizer has a return policy... Of course, it's here in America... Well, California. Arrived Nov. 22, just in time for Thanksgiving, with Grandma. No big deal, since all were fully vaccinated, right?

Guessing the new variant, made a timely debut, since Midterm elections are next year. Covid 1.0 was instrumental in stealing the 2020 elections. Too bad Andrew Cuomo had to get caught groping. He could have broken his 47,000 dead grandma record.

I suspect a couple of things:

[1] I suspect that the worst of the additional COVID tyranny from the Biden Regime won't occur until after the holidays have passed. Look for the all out assault on freedom to kick into high gear again in January sometime, as there will only be a year left before the potential of a new conservative controlled legislature taking over (at least in the House, if not gaining some Senate seats as well), which means yet another pause on the 666 agenda. Of course, we need to keep in mind that a steal could be implemented again like it was in 2020, however that might be saved for 2024... Who knows.

[2] I suspect that the Biden Regime knows full well that their 6uild 6ack 6etter policies are directly causing serious inflation and supply-side issues, thus in an attempt to put out some of the flames (to mitigate political damage) they need to artificially decrease demand... [ENTER OMICRON]

HarveyH55 wrote:
Least I have a job, that is considered essential, and don't expect any disruptions.

Remember that ALL healthcare workers were once considered "essential"... Now, the unvaccinated healthcare workers are considered 'expendable'. --- Also keep in mind that the Biden Regime is not simply targeting companies with 100+ employees and just stopping there... No, the FJB Regime ultimately desires to target EVERYBODY, even Mr. Self-Employed. --- The FJB Regime wants as many vaccinated as possible so its easier to implement a COVID passport system so its easier to control every aspect of people's lives.

HarveyH55 wrote:
One good thing about a vaccine evasive strain, should sink Lord Biden's vaccine mandate.

Remember that the FJB Regime is relentless. They will keep demanding that everyone get the currently available vaccines PLUS any new vaccine that gets developed, such as an "Omicron specific" vaccine.

This is why they came up with the terminology "fully vaccinated" rather than the prior terminology of "vaccinated". Any new vaccine developed (or any "booster") will just get added into the requirements for the vaccine mandate, and a refusal of compliance at any point in time while riding on the "vaccine-go-round") means that you are no longer considered to be "FULLY vaccinated", which means that you are immediately moved back into the "unvaccinated" category (even though you've been vaccinated). COMPLY, or ELSE...
Edited on 03-12-2021 17:20
03-12-2021 17:13
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keepit wrote:
Most cases have been mild and occurring in vaccinated people.

Why are swaths of vaccinated people still getting COVID??

keepit wrote:
You have to wonder how serious the illness would have been had they not been vaccinated?

This is when I know that you've thrown all science out the window and are clinging to your religious beliefs instead.

keepit wrote:
I guess we'll find that out in the coming days and weeks.

See above.
Edited on 03-12-2021 17:14
03-12-2021 17:23
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keepit wrote:
Maybe omicron was designed to make the paranoid even more paranoid.

As IBD already said, the word you are looking for is "authored", not designed.

But yes, it was authored to make the paranoid (maskwearers, maskholes, vaxxers, vaxholes) even more paranoid about a rather mild flu than they already are.
03-12-2021 19:35
GasGuzzler
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gfm7175 wrote:
keepit wrote:
Maybe omicron was designed to make the paranoid even more paranoid.

As IBD already said, the word you are looking for is "authored", not designed.

But yes, it was authored to make the paranoid (maskwearers, maskholes, vaxxers, vaxholes) even more paranoid about a rather mild flu than they already are.


Im all about giving credit where it is due regardless of the source.

Can we give keepit a base hit on this comment?


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Edited on 03-12-2021 19:35
03-12-2021 20:26
keepit
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So what's wrong with me as a source. I'm as much a conservative as a liberal.
03-12-2021 20:32
GasGuzzler
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keepit wrote:
So what's wrong with me as a source. I'm as much a conservative as a liberal.


Wikipedia is the source of your knowledge. You let others do your thinking for you.


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03-12-2021 21:05
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I think the lies are starting to unravel. Vaccines only help fight off an infection. The mRNA vaccines are falling short, in every way. They were suppose to be a single shot. But, even during the trials, they knew one shot was going to help much. Trump bought enough dose so every American could get one, if they wanted. Completely voluntary, better than nothing. Then they made it two shots. Trump should have pushed Pfizer to make good, and give the second doses free. He didn't get what he paid for, only half. Omicron makes the current vaccines worthless. Yet, Joe is still pushing them harder than ever. The vaccinated, partied and traveled, like the pandemic was over for them. They attended super-spreader events, held exclusively for the fully vaxxed. The CDC didn't know to look for omicron, until early this week. They are going to find a lot of cases.
03-12-2021 21:26
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keepit wrote:
So what's wrong with me as a source. I'm as much a conservative as a liberal.

There is nothing wrong with you as a source. Indeed, philosophy is based on that.
You must form your own arguments and reasoning.

The trouble with you is that you do not do that. The only reasoning you have provided contains numerous errors in logic (fallacies). The bulk of your arguments are made by others, not by you. You are simply stealing the arguments of others as your own. That is mindless.

Some people call this 'cut and paste', and for a reason.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 03-12-2021 21:29
03-12-2021 21:30
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
I think the lies are starting to unravel. Vaccines only help fight off an infection. The mRNA vaccines are falling short, in every way. They were suppose to be a single shot. But, even during the trials, they knew one shot was going to help much. Trump bought enough dose so every American could get one, if they wanted. Completely voluntary, better than nothing. Then they made it two shots. Trump should have pushed Pfizer to make good, and give the second doses free. He didn't get what he paid for, only half. Omicron makes the current vaccines worthless. Yet, Joe is still pushing them harder than ever. The vaccinated, partied and traveled, like the pandemic was over for them. They attended super-spreader events, held exclusively for the fully vaxxed. The CDC didn't know to look for omicron, until early this week. They are going to find a lot of cases.


Finding cases, or making them up?

There is nothing to 'look for' with Omicron, since there is no such thing. It is purely fiction and fear mongering...just like Delta was before it (also invented during Thanksgiving weekend).

Covid19 does not kill. Both Delta and Omicron 'variants' (you can't have a variant of a variant) are pure fiction.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 03-12-2021 21:38
03-12-2021 22:00
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GasGuzzler wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
keepit wrote:
Maybe omicron was designed to make the paranoid even more paranoid.

As IBD already said, the word you are looking for is "authored", not designed.

But yes, it was authored to make the paranoid (maskwearers, maskholes, vaxxers, vaxholes) even more paranoid about a rather mild flu than they already are.


Im all about giving credit where it is due regardless of the source.

Can we give keepit a base hit on this comment?

IF keepit was referring to the groups of people I mentioned as "the paranoid", then yes he can have a base hit as far as I am concerned. Otherwise, it's another 'swing and a miss'.
03-12-2021 22:02
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keepit wrote:
So what's wrong with me as a source.

Nothing.

keepit wrote:
I'm as much a conservative as a liberal.

No you aren't, at least not from what you post on here.
03-12-2021 22:07
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HarveyH55 wrote:
I think the lies are starting to unravel.

I'll do an overview of these lies, as a reminder for all:

** Just two weeks of mask wearing to "flatten the curve".
** Just another two weeks of mask wearing...
** Just wear the masks until a vaccine comes out...
** Just the vaccinated can take their masks off now...
** Just kidding, the vaccinated need to put their masks back on...
** Just the availability of a vaccine will return us to normal
** Just 60% of people need to get jabbed to return to normal
** Just 70%...
** Just 80%...
** Just 90%...
** Just 100%...
** Just get the vaccine if you feel like it.
** Just get the vaccine.
** Just get the booster if you feel like it.
** Just get the booster.
** Just get ANOTHER booster
** Just get ANOOOOTHER booster...

** Just get the COVID Pass.

** Just stop using gas powered equipment.
** Just stop driving gas powered vehicles.
** Just stop eating red meat.
** Just stop eating meat.
** Just be an organ donor if you feel like it
** Just be an organ donor.
** Just undergo kidney transplant surgery.
** Just undergo lung transplant surgery.
** Just undergo gastric bypass surgery.

How far will the "justs" continue to go??

How many "justs" will people continue to believe will "finally return us back to normal" before we "JUST" get so damn sick of it that we forcefully demand the tyranny to end and to be reversed?? When will people learn that we absolutely cannot in any way/shape/form comply our way out of tyranny??
03-12-2021 22:32
GasGuzzler
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gfm7175 wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
keepit wrote:
Maybe omicron was designed to make the paranoid even more paranoid.

As IBD already said, the word you are looking for is "authored", not designed.

But yes, it was authored to make the paranoid (maskwearers, maskholes, vaxxers, vaxholes) even more paranoid about a rather mild flu than they already are.


Im all about giving credit where it is due regardless of the source.

Can we give keepit a base hit on this comment?

IF keepit was referring to the groups of people I mentioned as "the paranoid", then yes he can have a base hit as far as I am concerned. Otherwise, it's another 'swing and a miss'.

Good point. Big if. For all we know he was talking about "insurrectionists".


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Edited on 03-12-2021 22:39
03-12-2021 22:35
GasGuzzler
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gfm7175 wrote:
** Just stop eating red meat.
** Just stop eating meat.


You just shut your damn mouth!!!!!


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03-12-2021 22:58
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Can we give keepit a base hit on this comment?
IF keepit was referring to the groups of people I mentioned as "the paranoid", then yes he can have a base hit as far as I am concerned. Otherwise, it's another 'swing and a miss'.

As glad as I am to see keepit writing something that is correct, if the correct information was handed to him then he was walked. He didn't reach first on his own; he was put there.

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03-12-2021 23:04
keepit
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itn and ibd,
Do you dream up your thoughts out of thin air or do you get information from sources? For example, do you have your own LHC and your own hubble telescope and do you do double blind medical experiments statistically on significant numbers of patients? Etc., etc.
Edited on 03-12-2021 23:16
03-12-2021 23:53
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keepit wrote:itn and ibd, Do you dream up your thoughts out of thin air

Every single one of my thoughts just occurs to me.

keepit wrote:or do you get information from sources?

Are you asking me if I get information from observation and empirical evidence?

Yes, I do.

Are you asking me if I was ever taught anything by people using voice and natural language.

Yes, I have.

Are you asking me why none of that is on the internet? Well, because all of that information is of the wrong format to ride on the internet.

keepit wrote: For example, do you have your own LHC and your own hubble telescope

Did you ever find your missing upper case letters? I notice that you capitalize LHC but you have no upper case "H" for "Hubble."

keepit wrote:and do you do double blind medical experiments statistically on significant numbers of patients? Etc., etc.

Have you learned statistics yet?
04-12-2021 00:14
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GasGuzzler wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
** Just stop eating red meat.
** Just stop eating meat.


You just shut your damn mouth!!!!!

I agree, but be ever vigilant that the Biden Regime are most definitely after your meat products as well. Because, you know, unprecedented global warming and stuff. And COVID cooties replicate inside meat products. Especially the red meat. Red is a naughty color. 666.
04-12-2021 00:44
GasGuzzler
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gfm7175 wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
** Just stop eating red meat.
** Just stop eating meat.


You just shut your damn mouth!!!!!

I agree, but be ever vigilant that the Biden Regime are most definitely after your meat products as well. Because, you know, unprecedented global warming and stuff. And COVID cooties replicate inside meat products. Especially the red meat. Red is a naughty color. 666.


What was pictured above is pure Venison, sir. Are you suggesting the Biden regime would slaughter the entire species?....and then blame the extinction on climate change?...or even Covid?

SURELY they are well above such lies!


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04-12-2021 02:24
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
** Just stop eating red meat.
** Just stop eating meat.


You just shut your damn mouth!!!!!

I agree, but be ever vigilant that the Biden Regime are most definitely after your meat products as well. Because, you know, unprecedented global warming and stuff. And COVID cooties replicate inside meat products. Especially the red meat. Red is a naughty color. 666.


What was pictured above is pure Venison, sir. Are you suggesting the Biden regime would slaughter the entire species?....and then blame the extinction on climate change?...or even Covid?

SURELY they are well above such lies!

Deer fart too much... ERADICATE THEM!!!!!
04-12-2021 03:17
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I really don't get the continued dependence on a vaccine, that has proven a huge disappointment. An evasive strain is spreading, and the response is to get more people vaccinated, boosters. At best, it might reduce severity of symptoms for some. But, the infection is mild for the overwhelming majority of cases. It's some where short of 1% of the cases, being severe. And those are usually linked to existing chronic conditions.

'We can end the pandemic sooner, if everyone gets vaccinated'? What is sooner? A few weeks sooner, couple months, years? Vaccines alone, have never wiped out any disease. Taken decades to make some almost none existent. What is it about this mRNA vaccine, that makes it so magical? A vaccine can help an individual fight off an infection. It has no magical properties to do anything else. As long as you continue to get jabbed, you are at lower risk of severe symptoms, that's it. The virus still exists, and still spreads.
04-12-2021 11:03
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keepit wrote:
itn and ibd,
Do you dream up your thoughts out of thin air or do you get information from sources? For example, do you have your own LHC and your own hubble telescope and do you do double blind medical experiments statistically on significant numbers of patients? Etc., etc.


Gibberbabble. Void argument fallacy. Buzzword fallacies.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
05-12-2021 07:58
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Into the Night wrote:
keepit wrote:
itn and ibd,
Do you dream up your thoughts out of thin air or do you get information from sources? For example, do you have your own LHC and your own hubble telescope and do you do double blind medical experiments statistically on significant numbers of patients? Etc., etc.


Gibberbabble. Void argument fallacy. Buzzword fallacies.


ITNocron? Of course Netflix did Stranger Things with ITN. Maybe ITNocron is not so strange? Then again, if we were infected with Stranger ITNocron, how would we know it?

p.s.,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUh4JnmcyAE
Edited on 05-12-2021 08:00
07-12-2021 21:00
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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19 states with Omicron cases, in just a week... Really surprised Florida hasn't made the list. We had record numbers of travelers over the holidays. We are on of the least restrictive states. We get criticized for everything we do, to preserve the freedoms, rights, and liberties of everyone living here. People come down here, eve for just a week, to escape the authoritarian crap of their liberal states. Even Canadians drive down here (mostly to escape the snow). Kentucky made the list recently, though not sure how the beat Florida to it. Tend to believe most of the Omicron/plague states, are democrat run. Punishment from God...
07-12-2021 22:23
keepit
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Many of the news feeds have been repeatedly reporting that omicron cases have been mild. I hope they're right.
07-12-2021 23:31
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HarveyH55 wrote:
We had record numbers of travelers over the holidays. We are on of the least restrictive states. We get criticized for everything we do, to preserve the freedoms, rights, and liberties of everyone living here.

Do EVERYTHING you can to keep Governor DeSantis, your legislature (while pruning out the remaining RINOs within it), and your supreme court. You guys have it great down there atm, so fight like hell to keep it that way, and don't get complacent on Demonkkkrat election fraud.

As much as I'd love to flee down to your State and take up residence there, I'm going to keep up the fight in Wisconsin for the time being. We're actually not in the worst of situations here, and Wisconsin can definitely, as quickly as flipping a light switch, become a bastion of freedom like Florida currently is IF we can get our election fraud issues under control within the next ten-ish months and IF we can get MAGA-aligned people elected rather than RINOs.

I read somewhere that in Dane County (Madison), Republicans will have well over 300-some poll watchers this time around instead of the 40ish? that they had last time. That's a start I guess. Of course, the Madison Dems are already playing games, attempting to require that all poll watchers in Madison be vaccinated.

What also bodes well for us is that our State Supreme Court says that they will take a "least change" approach to the redistricting battle that's going on here, so as long as the feds stay the fugg out of it, we should have pretty smooth sailing from here in the legislature getting the maps that they (and I) desire, which is good news for us conservatives. --- From there, we can take a two pronged attack at the Dems... [1] Get Evers out. This is Plan A. Get Evers out, and get a MAGA governor in, and we're ready to rock and roll in terms of freedom. [2] IF Evers gets cheated in again, then get a supermajority in both the assembly (gain 5 seats) and senate (gain one seat). That way, Evers' vetoes can go fugg themselves.

The fight continues beyond that though... We have issues with having RINOs in leadership positions in our legislature, and we have a very pivotal state supreme court race coming up in 2023 in which we NEED to win it in order to retain razor thin control over it.

All in all, I see promise here in Wisconsin. I think, if enough of us are willing to fight, that we can get the right people in office and start going the Florida route rather than being in limbo between freedom and tyranny.
08-12-2021 07:58
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Unfortunately, a lot of people have been moving down here, from democrat states... Doesn't mean they are democrats, or wish to change. But, they did like some of the democrat crap in their previous state, and will want it here.

Election fraud is already locked in, I don't think more poll watchers will make a difference, other than as a distraction away from the mail-in ballots. Even if the pandemic starts it's downward trend, mail-in ballets are still going to be pushed as the preferred method. Not much control over who, when, or where the ballots are sent from. Pretty sure the fraud happens, well before they reach the counting facilities. What actually gets turned in can be counted, and recounted, endlessly with no significant change in the results. Most of the security kicks in, after the ballots are received, and ready to be counted. To many unsecured places, and people handling them, before they even get mailed-out.

The democrat-disease is worse than covid to control and eradicate. Once they get their laws passed, they are very difficult to remove. Usually, very expensive as well. It isn't just getting the right people in office anymore either. Trump had all the right ideas, but he wasn't the right guy to make it happen. Too little experience, to much baggage, too much ego. Desantis could be, but he needs to get some experience in office. Governor of Florida is a good start, but it's a much larger battle on the federal level, different rules. Democrats really hate him. He's constantly goes against everything they are pushing, and proving them wrong. We were one of the first stated to open everything up, and drop most of the restrictions. Our covid cases weren't a total disaster. Actually not all that bad, considering the size of the population, travel, and average age. Really expected to see Omicron in Florida pretty quickly. We get 'snowbirds' from the northern states, even Canada, who winter in Florida every year, to avoid the cold. Most don't wait until after the holidays either. They can always fly back for a week or so...
08-12-2021 17:31
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Unfortunately, a lot of people have been moving down here, from democrat states... Doesn't mean they are democrats, or wish to change. But, they did like some of the democrat crap in their previous state, and will want it here.

It could mean a lot of things. It could mean that a fellow patriot is fleeing an oppressed area (such as NYC)... it could also mean that an enemy is infiltrating Florida... it could also mean that a private school teacher from Washington was called to serve at a private school in Florida.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Election fraud is already locked in, I don't think more poll watchers will make a difference, other than as a distraction away from the mail-in ballots. Even if the pandemic starts it's downward trend, mail-in ballets are still going to be pushed as the preferred method. Not much control over who, when, or where the ballots are sent from. Pretty sure the fraud happens, well before they reach the counting facilities. What actually gets turned in can be counted, and recounted, endlessly with no significant change in the results. Most of the security kicks in, after the ballots are received, and ready to be counted. To many unsecured places, and people handling them, before they even get mailed-out.

I feel pretty much the same way as you do here, but what the significant increase in poll watchers in the area tells me is that people have definitely been awakened by what happened in 2020, and are aware of the election fraud that's going on, and are actively trying to take action against it in whatever capacity they have the ability to do. Will it make much of a difference?? Idk.

I still have this strange feeling within me that the 6uild 6ack 6etter Regime will allow conservatives to do fairly well in 2022 to provide for the illusion of "free and fair elections" (and excuse the losses as "the opposing party typically does well in the midterms") and then they will save the major '2020-esque' election stealing efforts for the 2024 election cycle.

HarveyH55 wrote:
The democrat-disease is worse than covid to control and eradicate. Once they get their laws passed, they are very difficult to remove. Usually, very expensive as well.

It most definitely is!


HarveyH55 wrote:
It isn't just getting the right people in office anymore either. Trump had all the right ideas, but he wasn't the right guy to make it happen. Too little experience, to much baggage, too much ego.

Keeping in mind that effectively the whole DC system outside of a few conservatives in the legislature was against him, he did a damn good job in my opinion and was THE man for the job and had the necessary balls of steel and resolve to take on effectively everybody else around him while shining a bunch of sunlight upon the corrupt DC system in the process.

Because of Trump, we now know just how much of an enemy RINOs like McConnell, Rubio, Graham, Romney, are Cheney are... Through the lens of my Christian beliefs, I do truly believe that Trump was divinely appointed for those four years and was divinely protected from the attacks of the demonic scum surrounding him.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Desantis could be, but he needs to get some experience in office. Governor of Florida is a good start, but it's a much larger battle on the federal level, different rules. Democrats really hate him. He's constantly goes against everything they are pushing, and proving them wrong. We were one of the first stated to open everything up, and drop most of the restrictions. Our covid cases weren't a total disaster. Actually not all that bad, considering the size of the population, travel, and average age. Really expected to see Omicron in Florida pretty quickly. We get 'snowbirds' from the northern states, even Canada, who winter in Florida every year, to avoid the cold. Most don't wait until after the holidays either. They can always fly back for a week or so...

DeSantis is probably one of the best candidates atm, but I truly believe that he will be much more effective if he remains as the Governor of Florida.

I think that the fight on the federal level is lost (due to how corrupt it is and how powerful and unchecked the Intelligence Branch of federal government is) and that we need to instead "clean house" on a local and state level and to take a '10th Amendment' approach to fighting back. This means getting good MAGA people into positions of power within our localities and States, and the localities and States outright ignoring and refusing to comply with tyrannical dictates from the federal level. Right now, Florida is leading the way with doing this. Many more States need to join with Florida on this cause and be just as "in your face" about it as DeSantis is being.
Edited on 08-12-2021 17:35
08-12-2021 21:50
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What Trump didn't understand, was that most politicians are corrupt, and self-serving. The look to enrich themselves, and stay in office. They work any sort of deal regardless party, if it benefits them. It's suppose to be about what's good for the country, the people they were elected to represent. They don't even try to hide the corruption. Bills, are suppose to be the will of the people, not some slick deal, or bargain. Our government was never intended to be a charity. Folks were suppose to take care of themselves, their family, their community. Charity, tends to get misdirected, a few people get filthy rich, a few crumbs might actually be used as intended. Those who get rich, also like to send a lot of charity overseas, to other countries. Charity isn't really a bad thing, if you can spare the cash, but not go into debt, just to give it away. Trump wanted to stop the stealing, the charity, and get America back on track. Pissed off a lot of people, use to making huge profits, from all parties. Trump wanted to create jobs, and end dependence on government charity. Government charity, is what gets stolen the most.
08-12-2021 23:34
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HarveyH55 wrote:
What Trump didn't understand, was that most politicians are corrupt, and self-serving. The look to enrich themselves, and stay in office. They work any sort of deal regardless party, if it benefits them. It's suppose to be about what's good for the country, the people they were elected to represent. They don't even try to hide the corruption. Bills, are suppose to be the will of the people, not some slick deal, or bargain. Our government was never intended to be a charity. Folks were suppose to take care of themselves, their family, their community. Charity, tends to get misdirected, a few people get filthy rich, a few crumbs might actually be used as intended. Those who get rich, also like to send a lot of charity overseas, to other countries. Charity isn't really a bad thing, if you can spare the cash, but not go into debt, just to give it away. Trump wanted to stop the stealing, the charity, and get America back on track. Pissed off a lot of people, use to making huge profits, from all parties. Trump wanted to create jobs, and end dependence on government charity. Government charity, is what gets stolen the most.


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09-12-2021 07:19
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keepit wrote:
Many of the news feeds have been repeatedly reporting that omicron cases have been mild. I hope they're right.


Have hope. There are no cases of Omicron. There is no such variant.

You can't have a variant of a variant. The 'Omicron variant' is completely fiction. So is the 'Delta variant'.


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Edited on 09-12-2021 07:19
10-12-2021 04:58
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Into the Night wrote:The 'Omicron variant' is completely fiction. So is the 'Delta variant'.

Yep. The "crisis" is a fiction. All "variants" within the story are similarly fiction.

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