Olympics and Climate Marxism

IBdaMann wrote:
Climate Marxism has made this Olympics the most WOKE ev-ah. Men get to claim to be women and compete in the women's games. Isn't that inclusive?

So, the towering monster male Algerian boxer, Imane Khelif, convinced Italian female boxer Angela Carini to simply surrender (forfeit) after he hit her just one time in the face. She had never been hit so hard, and she had an overwhelming epiphany that saving her own life would be in her best interest. She quit, in tears. But look at it this way, she might have trained for years to compete for a medal, but she will live to fight another day.

More good news, tomorrow (Friday, 2 August 2024), Taiwan's Lin Yu-Ting will beat the shit out of some chick.

Spongy Iris wrote: Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change, according to my sources:

Spongy Iris wrote: Maybe being a "freak" is why she got into boxing to begin with.

Spongy Iris wrote: She has lost plenty of fights to other females in the ring.

Spongy Iris wrote: Who are you to try to crush her dreams of an Olympic gold?

Spongy Iris wrote:I will be rooting for her.

Spongy Iris wrote:
Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change,

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change, according to my sources:

Your sources are wrong.

Do your eyes lie to you as well? He has XY chromosomes.

Spongy Iris wrote: Maybe being a "freak" is why she got into boxing to begin with.

The only "she" in that fight was Angela Carini. Khelif is a man, and he sucked at boxing against other men, so he figured he'd go beat up women, and make himself feel like less of a loser.

Spongy Iris wrote: She has lost plenty of fights to other females in the ring.

Because he sucks in boxing. Men who suck in their respective sports should not be attempting to compensate by competing against women.

Spongy Iris wrote: Who are you to try to crush her dreams of an Olympic gold?

I'm a rational adult who is opposed to any man crushing women's dreams of Olympic gold.

Spongy Iris wrote:I will be rooting for her.

You'll be rooting for a man to beat up women. That makes you sick.

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change, according to my sources:

Your sources are wrong.

Do your eyes lie to you as well? He has XY chromosomes.

Spongy Iris wrote: Maybe being a "freak" is why she got into boxing to begin with.

The only "she" in that fight was Angela Carini. Khelif is a man, and he sucked at boxing against other men, so he figured he'd go beat up women, and make himself feel like less of a loser.

Spongy Iris wrote: She has lost plenty of fights to other females in the ring.

Because he sucks in boxing. Men who suck in their respective sports should not be attempting to compensate by competing against women.

Spongy Iris wrote: Who are you to try to crush her dreams of an Olympic gold?

I'm a rational adult who is opposed to any man crushing women's dreams of Olympic gold.

Spongy Iris wrote:I will be rooting for her.

You'll be rooting for a man to beat up women. That makes you sick.

She was born a female. She competed in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and just made it to the quarter finals.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change, according to my sources:

Your sources are wrong.

Do your eyes lie to you as well? He has XY chromosomes.

Spongy Iris wrote: Maybe being a "freak" is why she got into boxing to begin with.

The only "she" in that fight was Angela Carini. Khelif is a man, and he sucked at boxing against other men, so he figured he'd go beat up women, and make himself feel like less of a loser.

Spongy Iris wrote: She has lost plenty of fights to other females in the ring.

Because he sucks in boxing. Men who suck in their respective sports should not be attempting to compensate by competing against women.

Spongy Iris wrote: Who are you to try to crush her dreams of an Olympic gold?

I'm a rational adult who is opposed to any man crushing women's dreams of Olympic gold.

Spongy Iris wrote:I will be rooting for her.

You'll be rooting for a man to beat up women. That makes you sick.

She was born a female. She competed in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and just made it to the quarter finals.

Men tend to reach their physical prime in their mid to late twenties, so at 21 he was just a pussy, but now at 25 years of age he can REALLY pound the ladies.

Spongy Iris wrote:She was born a female.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change,

If it looks a duck, walks like a duck, fights like a duck...then for sure it's just a chick.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:She was born a female.

He was born male, with XY chromosomes. You lose. His XY chromosomes caused him to fail the previous gender tests. The Olympic committee decided they wanted men competing in the women's games so they eliminated the XY-chromosome prohibition.

He's still a man.

Spongy Iris wrote: So I take it you believe her birth certificate is a forgery,...?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: So I take it you believe her birth certificate is a forgery,...?

So I take it that you believe documentation overrides reality. He was born with the XY chromosomes that he still has.

Spongy Iris, I'm going to teach you some really cool things, but don't spread these around or else everyone will know and you won't appear "really wise."

1. A man who calls himself a woman is nonetheless a man.
2. A man who other people insist is female is nonetheless a man.
3. Anyone born with XY chromosomes is male.
4. Imane Khelif was born male with XY chromosomes (I know, redundant) and today, in adulthood, insists that he is female.
5. Iman Khelif, a male boxer who sucks, today beats up women because the Olympic committee allows men to participate in women's games if they insist that they are female.
6. You are sick ... and blind.

Spongy Iris wrote:Were the doctors assessing her gender at birth mistaken about her anatomy?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:Were the doctors assessing her gender at birth mistaken about her anatomy?

Let's hold your questions for a moment.

Are you denying that Imane Khelif has XY chromosomes, and was prohibited from competing in women's boxing in 2023 for this reason?

Do you recognize that Imane Khelif could be walking around with a forged/doctored/falsified birth certificate that would be needed to compete as a woman? We're talking ALGERIA, and I'm sure you are familiar with the concept of forged/counterfeit documents.

Documents can lie, chromosomes do not.

Spongy Iris wrote: There it is. Your secret agent theory.

Spongy Iris wrote: You know you could have said that it may be possible and rare that a female has XY chromosomes. I would have said, the evidence seems to agree.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: There it is. Your secret agent theory.

There it is. The EVASION, the pivoting and the denial that signals you are tipping your king.

Your entire position depends upon your denial of Imane Khelif's XY chromosomes.

As such, you need to blame me for bursting your bubble. You cannot accept the reality of Imane Khelif being male due to his XY chromosomes, ... and it's all my fault, right?

Spongy Iris wrote: You know you could have said that it may be possible and rare that a female has XY chromosomes. I would have said, the evidence seems to agree.

You know you could have just acknowledged that documents can be forged. I would have said that it happens all the time, everywhere.

Spongy Iris wrote: It may be possible and rare to be born female, and have XY chromosomes.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: It may be possible and rare to be born female, and have XY chromosomes.

I've heard that as well ... and I don't buy it. Regardless, it doesn't matter in this case because Imane is all dude. He is a man with XY chromosomes who is beating up on chicks.

The other man competing in women's boxing, Taiwan's Lin Yu-Ting, has a more greatly pronounced Adam's apple than your average man. Both he and Khelif failed the women's elegibility in 2023.

Lin Yu-ting, a man, just defeated Sitora Turdibekova, a woman, of Uzbekistan in a unanimous decision.

The dreams of two women who trained for years to win Olympic medals have just been crushed by two men who can't compete against other men.

Last year, the International Boxing Association disqualified Khelif and one other boxer, Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan, for failing to "meet eligibility rules." This week, the IBA said the athletes did not undergo a testosterone test but rather a "separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential."

Spongy Iris wrote: This is what you are betting on:

Spongy Iris wrote: And lastly why would these males be motivated to pretend to be female just to dominate an Olympic sport?

Spongy Iris wrote: Do they just want to get an Olympic gold medal they otherwise could not have won?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: And lastly why would these males be motivated to pretend to be female just to dominate an Olympic sport?

Because they suck at boxing and can't compete against other men.

Why don't women compete in men's sports? Hint: they can't

Spongy Iris wrote: Do they just want to get an Olympic gold medal they otherwise could not have won?

Correct. Yes. They can't compete against other men.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: This is what you are betting on:

Nope. They both took tests which revealed their XY chromosomes and caused the IBA to disqualify them both from the 2023 world championships. The test results and all medical information of these two men were not published under privacy laws/requirements; the men were simply disqualified for their XY chromosomes.

The IOC is not the IBA, and the IOC is WOKE, deciding to create eligibility requirements based only on documents that, of course, can be forged. No chromosome checks were made to prevent any men from competing in the women's games.

Your information that these two dudes were somehow disqualified because of testosterone levels is active disinformation that plays on your gullibility. At some point you abandoned your senses and you abandoned reason and rendered yourself unable to discern a man beating up on a woman.

When these dudes take the gold, I'm going to ask you if you're happy that the dreams of actual women who have trained for years have been crushed to make a couple of men who suck at their sport, feel better.

Spongy Iris wrote: You are speculating about their chromosomes, that info has not been revealed by the IBA.

Spongy Iris wrote: The IBA is discredited, and is being accused of defamation.

Spongy Iris wrote: You need to show how their vital records were forged, or they stole female identities, to continue this debate.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: You are speculating about their chromosomes, that info has not been revealed by the IBA.

I am not speculating. The reason for the disqualification, i.e. XY chromosomes was announced. It was the rest of the medical information that was not published.

Spongy Iris wrote: The IBA is discredited, and is being accused of defamation.

Nope.

Spongy Iris wrote: You need to show how their vital records were forged, or they stole female identities, to continue this debate.

Nope. There is no debate. They are dudes. They have XY chromosomes, and it is obvious by just looking at them.

Congratulations on your applause for cowardly men beating up on women.

Spongy Iris wrote: They will not be disqualified because they were born with female anatomy which were easily identified by their doctors, parents, and reported to vital records offices.

Do you deny this?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: They will not be disqualified because they were born with female anatomy which were easily identified by their doctors, parents, and reported to vital records offices.

Do you deny this?

Yes, I deny this. They will not be disqualified because the WOKE IOC wants to ruin women's sports and is allowing eligibility to be determined by forged documentation alone, not by whether they are male or female.

Spongy Iris wrote: Good luck proving their vital records were forged.

Spongy Iris wrote: What a preposterous theory, that these 2 would commit such a fraud, in front of a huge global audience, for zero financial gain, just to win an Olympic medal.

Spongy Iris wrote: Taiwan's Sports Administration protested on Tuesday

Spongy Iris wrote: "The Sports Administration seriously protests the International Boxing Association's continued publication of false information,

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Taiwan's Sports Administration protested on Tuesday

Of course Taiwan and Algeria will fight to retain the gold medals they are going to win.

Spongy Iris wrote: "The Sports Administration seriously protests the International Boxing Association's continued publication of false information,

It's not false information. Such a suit won't go anywhere.

Why are you so intent on allowing men to compete in women's sports? Why not just abolish women's sports and have a separate league for men who suck?

XY chromosomes. They're going to win.

Did you know that the US women's national soccer team got blown out by a team of 15-yr-old boys? Should those boys just identify as females and win the US women's World Cup?

You never acknowledged that documents can be forged. Why not?

Why do you ignore their XY chromosomes and focus exclusively on what some obviously forged documents read?

Spongy Iris wrote: I have no idea how to create a false identity.

Spongy Iris wrote: But I can see how you are defaming the Taiwan and Algeria governments by insisting they have allowed fake identities to compete at the Olympics.

Spongy Iris wrote: Look if you can prove these are fake identities, then I would admit I was wrong.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: I have no idea how to create a false identity.

It's a very simple matter.

Spongy Iris wrote: But I can see how you are defaming the Taiwan and Algeria governments by insisting they have allowed fake identities to compete at the Olympics.

OK, although no one knows if the governments are in on it or not.

Spongy Iris wrote: Look if you can prove these are fake identities, then I would admit I was wrong.

You're focusing on the wrong problem. Focus on the fact that they are men. Focus on their XY chromosomes. Focus on the fact that, as men, they are going to beat the snot out of all the women.

Let's review Lin Yu-Ting's record thus far (hint: he hasn't lost a single round)

Today - Semifinal: Lin Yu-Ting 5, E. Yildiz Kahraman 0
Aug 4·Quarterfinal: Lin Yu-Ting 5, S. Staneva 0
Aug 2·Round of 16: Lin Yu-Ting 5, S. Turdibekova 0

Let's review Imane Khelif's record thus far (hint: he hasn't lost a single round)

Yesterday - Semifinal: Imane Khelif 5, J. Suwannapheng 0
Aug 3·Quarterfinal: Imane Khelif5, L.A. Hamori 0
Aug 1·Round of 16: Imane Khelif Win, A. Carini Forfeit

The women have no chance against the men. XY chromosomes. You deny them. You don't accept that these are men that are mopping up the floor with the best women boxers and not losing even a single round.

I know that you realize all this, because you become forced to blame me for your realizing the obvious. You call all of the obvious information I put in front of you a "hate campaign." You're in some serious denial.

Spongy Iris wrote: You're the one denying the obvious point they were born female.

Spongy Iris wrote: Your position is forcing you to put forth a conspiracy theory with no reasonable motive behind it.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: You're the one denying the obvious point they were born female.

Nope. Prove it, with something other than forged paperwork. You refuse to acknowledge that documents can be forged because your entire argument rests on the idea that no documents can ever be forged. On this topic, your premise is not accepted, and the birth documents presented by these XY-chromosome men are presumed to be forged.

I know what you can do. You can have them take a genetic test that determines whether or not they are men. Oooops! That was already done by the IBA which discovered their XY chromosomes and disqualified the men from competing against women.

It looks like you are going to have an impossible job of proving that these men were somehow born as women. Your only hope is to find someone gullible enough to believe obviously forged documents.

My read is that they were born as boys who, in adulthood, obtained forged documents that assert they were born as women. Gullible people such as you want so much for it to be true that you declare the forged documents to be truthful and ignore the reality of the men's XY chromosomes. You'll also deny the fact that these men are destroying all their femal competition just as if they were .... wait for it ... men!

No boxer in history has ever reached the finals without losing even a single round.

Spongy Iris wrote: Your position is forcing you to put forth a conspiracy theory with no reasonable motive behind it.

1. I acknowledge that humans conspire for personal gain. Are you saying that you do not believe that humans conspire?

2. The motive is to feel like a champion instead of feeling like a complete loser.

Spongy Iris wrote: No male is going to create a false identity as a female,

Spongy Iris wrote: Neither would that make any male feel like a champion.

Spongy Iris wrote: Being insensitive, these 2 ladies, are what they call, BUTCH. That's it.

Spongy Iris wrote:The only conspiracy here is your hate campaign.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: No male is going to create a false identity as a female,

You don't get to declare that what you are looking at somehow is never going to happen.

Spongy Iris wrote: Neither would that make any male feel like a champion.

You don't get to speak for anyone but yourself. Obviously there are two men who are driven to beat up women and feel good about it.

Did I mention that neither of the men have lost even a single round? It's almost as if their competition is just a bunch of women.

Spongy Iris wrote: Being insensitive, these 2 ladies, are what they call, BUTCH. That's it.

Nope. Butch refers to a hair style. These men look like men because they are men.

Spongy Iris wrote:The only conspiracy here is your hate campaign.

You try to blame me for your gullibility. You are the one ignoring the XY chromosomes and the beat-down that these men are delivering to their victims.

Why do you HATE women so much that you want to see all their dreams and hard work crushed by confused men running amok?

Spongy Iris wrote: I'm looking at the facts being reported.

Spongy Iris wrote: I said the IBA's report of XY chromosomes may or may not be correct.

Spongy Iris wrote: But you cannot accept what is undeniably correct, that they were born and raised females.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: I'm looking at the facts being reported.

False. You are echoing the Marxist Stream Media's assault on women's sports. No rational adult has any reason to believe any of it, but you nonetheless OBEY and regurgitate.

Spongy Iris wrote: I said the IBA's report of XY chromosomes may or may not be correct.

There was no report. You simply deny that the IBA disqualified Khelif and Yu-Ting for having XY Chromosomes. You deny this because it bursts your little fantasy bubble.

Spongy Iris wrote: But you cannot accept what is undeniably correct, that they were born and raised females.

It is entirely deniable. It is absurd to think that two men were somehow born female because documents clearly cannot be forged.

Imane Khelif just crushed Yang Liu's hope of winning Olympic gold. The 2023 women's welterweight world champion couldn't even win a single round against Khelif. Yang Liu doesn't have XY chromosomes, that was her flaw. As a result, Khelif breezed through all of his female opponents without even losing a single round to easily win the Olympic gold medal without even working up a sweat.

You are sick for applauding this. These two men were not born female; females don't somehow develop XY chromosomes over their lifetimes. Your denial that documents can be forged is just how you rationalize your enjoyment of watching men beat the snot out of women.

Spongy Iris wrote: The IBA said I cannot tell you she has XY chromosomes, but you can read between the lines.

Spongy Iris wrote: You are not some magical lie detector.