Olympics and Climate Marxism

IBdaMann wrote:

You are regurgitating something that you were told to repeat, not something you got from the IBA.

The IBA confirms that the genetics testing in 2023 for both Khelif and Yu-Ting was conducted by an independent lab and was the basis for the disqualification.

The IBA was unequivocal.

IBA chief executive Chris Roberts said he could not disclose the results of the gender eligibility tests but that the pair's disqualification from the 2023 women's World Championships meant the public could "read between the lines"

Spongy Iris wrote: Here is what your unequivocal master had to say:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Here is what your unequivocal master had to say:

Nope. This is not an official authoritative source.

You are correct that Reuters is part of the MSM and is presumed to be FALSE until shown to be true by some authoritative source.

It's official, Lin Yu-Ting and his XY chromosomes bitch-slapped Julia Szeremeta of Poland to win the Olympic gold medal in women's boxing. Just like Imane Khelif, Lin Yu-Ting won every round in every one of his fights in the 2024 Paris Olympics.

Let's Review the accomplishments of Lin Yu-Ting and Imane Khelif:

1. The first men to compete in women's Olympic boxing
2. The first Olympic boxers to win every single round of every fight. *
3. The first Olympians to have their disqualifications disqualified for inclusivity.


* - Julia Szeremeta, Poland's national women's boxing champion, was unable to win even a single round against Lin Yu-Ting in the Olympic gold medal bout. Women's boxing world champion Yang Liu was unable to win even a single round in her Olympic gold medal bout against Imane Khelif.

Spongy Iris wrote: Yet again, you fantasize about how you know different facts, whenever the actual facts present you with a losing position.

Spongy Iris wrote: Then you assume victory.

Spongy Iris wrote: Khelif was born a female, and hasn't had a sex change, according to my sources

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Yet again, you fantasize about how you know different facts, whenever the actual facts present you with a losing position.

Neither you nor I have any idea about what you are speaking.

I am simply reporting the reality that bothers you. You always have therapy as an option.

IBA explains how blood tests revealed XY chromosomes

IBA explains that an independent lab discovered that the two men are men

Spongy Iris wrote: Then you assume victory.

This isn't a competition, but if you must characterize this as a competition then yes, I kicked your ass.

Spongy Iris wrote: You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Here is what your unequivocal master had to say:

Nope. This is not an official authoritative source.

You are correct that Reuters is part of the MSM and is presumed to be FALSE until shown to be true by some authoritative source.

It's official, Lin Yu-Ting and his XY chromosomes bitch-slapped Julia Szeremeta of Poland to win the Olympic gold medal in women's boxing. Just like Imane Khelif, Lin Yu-Ting won every round in every one of his fights in the 2024 Paris Olympics.

Let's Review the accomplishments of Lin Yu-Ting and Imane Khelif:

1. The first men to compete in women's Olympic boxing
2. The first Olympic boxers to win every single round of every fight. *
3. The first Olympians to have their disqualifications disqualified for inclusivity.


* - Julia Szeremeta, Poland's national women's boxing champion, was unable to win even a single round against Lin Yu-Ting in the Olympic gold medal bout. Women's boxing world champion Yang Liu was unable to win even a single round in her Olympic gold medal bout against Imane Khelif.

Yet again, you fantasize about how you know different facts, whenever the actual facts present you with a losing position.

Then you write a big long essay like some teacher's pet.

Then you assume victory. Everybody can get a trophy in your fantasy game.

Spongy Iris wrote:
You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Denial of science.

Those two MEN have XY chromosomes... They are both MEN. You are condoning woman beating. Disgusting!

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Their XY chromosomes make them male, and they were born with them.

Ergo, they were born male.

They have had their XY chromosomes their entire lives, and still have them.

Ergo, they are men.

This reality shatters your bizarre and sick "men bullying women" fantasy bubble.

The most common karyotypes for a female contain two X chromosomes and are denoted for the sex XX. Males usually have both an X and a Y chromosome, denoted for the sex XY.

Spongy Iris wrote:The National Human Genome Research Institute does not use such absolute language as you do:

Spongy Iris wrote: Clearly their doctors and parents used their anatomy to determine their gender.

Spongy Iris wrote: It appears the IOC's statement is accurate, that some people want to change the definition of a woman.

Spongy Iris wrote: Again, these ladies were born girls.

Spongy Iris wrote: It has been unequivocally stated so.

Spongy Iris wrote: Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

Spongy Iris wrote: Not to mention, if these are truly gentlemen falsifying their identities to be ladies, such as your teacher's pet claims, it would require a massive global conspiracy. Is that your position?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:The National Human Genome Research Institute does not use such absolute language as you do:

Sure they do; you are simply misreading in order to force a round peg into a coin slot. Mention is made of the very rare humans who have XXY chromosomes and others as such ... but all of that is distraction since both Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-Ting have standard male XY chromosomes for which they were excluded from the 2023 boxing world championships by the IBA.

Spongy Iris wrote: Clearly their doctors and parents used their anatomy to determine their gender.

Poor wording. The men's XY chromosomes determine their gender, not any doctors. Additionally, once you acknowledge that documents can, and often are, forged, we'll be able to dispense with this unsupported and apparently absurd claim that these men were somehow born female.

They were obviously born male with XY chromosomes, acquired forged birth certificates at some point, and unequivocally lied about being born female.

Spongy Iris wrote: It appears the IOC's statement is accurate, that some people want to change the definition of a woman.

Examples of such are the IOC, yourself and other WOKE leftists. You want to define a woman by what is written on forged documents and not by human physiology.

Spongy Iris wrote: Again, these ladies were born girls.

Except that you are talking about men who were born boys with XY chromosomes.

Spongy Iris wrote: It has been unequivocally stated so.

All lies are unequivocally stated. XY chromosomes make a different statement that is truthful.

Gender Chromosome Review

Spongy Iris wrote: Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

Your ethusiastic support of men bullying women is completely misogynistic.

Spongy Iris wrote: Not to mention, if these are truly gentlemen falsifying their identities to be ladies, such as your teacher's pet claims, it would require a massive global conspiracy. Is that your position?

It would not require a massive global conspiracy. It would only require a forged document.

This is where you admit that documents can be easily forged, and we conclude the discussion on that point.

Spongy Iris wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Denial of science.

Those two MEN have XY chromosomes... They are both MEN. You are condoning woman beating. Disgusting!

Again, these ladies were born girls. It has been unequivocally stated so. Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

Not to mention, if these are truly gentlemen falsifying their identities to be ladies, such as your teacher's pet claims, it would require a massive global conspiracy. Is that your position?

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Denial of science.

Those two MEN have XY chromosomes... They are both MEN. You are condoning woman beating. Disgusting!

Again, these ladies were born girls. It has been unequivocally stated so. Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

Not to mention, if these are truly gentlemen falsifying their identities to be ladies, such as your teacher's pet claims, it would require a massive global conspiracy. Is that your position?

Nope. XY chromosomes in a person is the very definition of 'male'. XX chromosomes in a person is the very definition of 'female'. 'YY' chromosomes is to be dead.

Spongy Iris wrote:I'm still holding my breath waiting for the big reveal of your massive global conspiracy

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:I'm still holding my breath waiting for the big reveal of your massive global conspiracy

I never claimed any conspiracy. You assigned a bogus position to me that I do not hold.

You deny that documents can be forged.

You believe that a person who is born female with XX chromosomes can somehow develop XY chromosomes at some point in life.

You believe that there is nothing glaring about the manner in which both boxers in question totally manhandled all their women competition to winning gold medals without losing even a single round, as though they were men who were domestically abusing their bitches, despite no boxer ever accomplishing such a feat.

You feel good about the idea of men bitch-slapping women as long as boxing gloves are involved, such that you will actively support the men who are doing so, knowing that they have XY chromosomes and identify as "female."

You are the one who needs to explain his position, and do so without pivoting to assigning bogus positions to others that are not held.

Spongy Iris wrote: Are you changing your position?
Have you accepted that these ladies were born girls?

Spongy Iris wrote: It sounds like you are still doubling down on your position that they have fake identities and they were really born boys.

Spongy Iris wrote: If that remains your position, know that you are by extension asserting their participation in the Olympics is part of a massive global conspiracy involving Algeria, the IOC, and Taiwan.

Spongy Iris wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Denial of science.

Those two MEN have XY chromosomes... They are both MEN. You are condoning woman beating. Disgusting!

Again, these ladies were born girls. It has been unequivocally stated so. Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

Not to mention, if these are truly gentlemen falsifying their identities to be ladies, such as your teacher's pet claims, it would require a massive global conspiracy. Is that your position?

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
This is where you admit that documents can be easily forged, and we conclude the discussion on that point.

Forged documents can be detected by authorities.

It becomes a massive global conspiracy when authorities from Algeria, the IOC, and Taiwan do not call out the fraud.

I will be holding my breath waiting for your massive global conspiracy to be revealed.

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
This is where you admit that documents can be easily forged, and we conclude the discussion on that point.

Forged documents can be detected by authorities.

It becomes a massive global conspiracy when authorities from Algeria, the IOC, and Taiwan do not call out the fraud.

I will be holding my breath waiting for your massive global conspiracy to be revealed.

This is where you admit that forged documents can be easily IGNORED by authorities, and we conclude the discussion on that point.

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
You are the one bothered by the reality that these ladies have XY chromosomes, and were born girls.

Denial of science.

Those two MEN have XY chromosomes... They are both MEN. You are condoning woman beating. Disgusting!

Again, these ladies were born girls. It has been unequivocally stated so. Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

Not to mention, if these are truly gentlemen falsifying their identities to be ladies, such as your teacher's pet claims, it would require a massive global conspiracy. Is that your position?

Again, those MEN were born MALE. It has been unequivocally stated so. Your denial of this is hate speech, bullying, and defamation.

If these are truly ladies, and NOT men falsifying their identities as "ladies" in order to beat the ever loving snot out of women, it would require a massive global denial of science. Is that your position?

IBdaMann wrote:

documents are forged all around the world every day.

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Spongy Iris wrote: Government authorities can detect a fake identity.

Spongy Iris wrote: You keep asserting these ladies have fake IDs,

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Government authorities can detect a fake identity.

You are being intentionally dishonest.

If you are saying that forged documents are always detected then you are insisting that it is not the case that there are millions of illegal aliens obtaining benefits illicitly via forged documents.

Spongy Iris, millions of illegal immigrants obtain benefits from forged documents every day in California alone, much moreso across the entirety of the United States. There are two reasons for this:

1. Non-detectable documents can be forged, sometimes because a corrupt insider in the document producing process is paid money to create a phony one.

2. The forged document is detected but accepted/welcomed nonetheless.

For reasons related to item #1, document forgery is a huge business in the US. close to $1 Billion annually. But in this case, we are more focused on item #2. The WOKE leftist IOC welcomes forged birth certificates of male athletes who want to compete as women and claim benefits, i.e. medals and fame, intended for others, just as the WOKE leftist State and local governments of the US welcome forged documents of illegal immigrants who want to claim benefits intended for others.

Your trite quip "authorities can detect a fake identity" does nothing to support either your argument that people can somehow change their chromosomes or your argument that forged documents cannot actually be used.

Spongy Iris wrote: You keep asserting these ladies have fake IDs,

You keep referring to these men as "ladies." Men cannot be ladies. These gentlemen have XY chromosomes which cannot be changed. Your references to "ladies" is false and is dismissed.

You go through a lot of trouble to defend men delivering the smackdown to women.

What are your views on men hitting women? Please do tell.

Let's focus on the XY chromosomes that these men have had since birth. Why do you refer to them as "ladies" or "women" or "females"?

Spongy Iris wrote: Again you assert a fake ID global conspiracy.

Spongy Iris wrote:Are you getting tired of repeating yourself?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Again you assert a fake ID global conspiracy.

Again, you change the subject away from the XY chromosomes of the men in question to the bogus position you assign to me that I do not hold.

Do you have nothing else?

Spongy Iris wrote:Are you getting tired of repeating yourself?

Very much so.

What are your views on men hitting women? ... on men abusing women?

Spongy Iris wrote:
Government authorities can detect a fake identity. That is their job.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
Government authorities can detect a fake identity. That is their job.

Governments tend to be self serving. This is a STUPID argument.

May I just tell you how it is? Let's just have a little heart to heart, GasGuzzler and Spongy. Here we go...

Having a dick doesn't make a person a man.

Being a dick doesn't make a person a man.

A man can be born with no dick and still be a man.

A man can lose his dick and yet never be a woman.

It's not all about the dick, you see.

Am I being a dick? I have XY chromosomes, therefore, I am a man.

Spongy Iris wrote: Are you saying it's possible to be born with female anatomy and XY chromosomes?

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Are you saying it's possible to be born with female anatomy and XY chromosomes?

Wrong question.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be female?
ANSWER: No.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be born with abnormalities and/or birth defects?
ANSWER: Yes.


What are your thoughts on men just beating the crap out of women? I really think you are a sick f**k. Obviously they are men; every round of every fight was heavily one-sided, as the men beat the crap out of women who couldn't fight back ... and you totally enjoy that sort of thing. You are reprehensible. EVERY SINGLE ROUND. Even the women's welterweight world champion couldn't fight back and just had to stand there and get whalloped for the entire fight. Your justifications for this shit are LAME.

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Are you saying it's possible to be born with female anatomy and XY chromosomes?

Wrong question.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be female?
ANSWER: No.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be born with abnormalities and/or birth defects?
ANSWER: Yes.


What are your thoughts on men just beating the crap out of women? I really think you are a sick f**k. Obviously they are men; every round of every fight was heavily one-sided, as the men beat the crap out of women who couldn't fight back ... and you totally enjoy that sort of thing. You are reprehensible. EVERY SINGLE ROUND. Even the women's welterweight world champion couldn't fight back and just had to stand there and get whalloped for the entire fight. Your justifications for this shit are LAME.

Wow, you admit you were wrong, but still double down on your bigotry by changing the definition of a woman.

You never have to lose an argument when you can change definitions of words. What an excellent example of the "everybody deserves a trophy" culture, which you put on display here so well.

Your collages are so cute.

Spongy Iris wrote:Wow, you admit you were wrong, but still double down on your bigotry by changing the definition of a woman.

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Are you saying it's possible to be born with female anatomy and XY chromosomes?

Wrong question.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be female?
ANSWER: No.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be born with abnormalities and/or birth defects?
ANSWER: Yes.


What are your thoughts on men just beating the crap out of women? I really think you are a sick f**k. Obviously they are men; every round of every fight was heavily one-sided, as the men beat the crap out of women who couldn't fight back ... and you totally enjoy that sort of thing. You are reprehensible. EVERY SINGLE ROUND. Even the women's welterweight world champion couldn't fight back and just had to stand there and get whalloped for the entire fight. Your justifications for this shit are LAME.

Wow, you admit you were wrong, but still double down on your bigotry by changing the definition of a woman.

You never have to lose an argument when you can change definitions of words. What an excellent example of the "everybody deserves a trophy" culture, which you put on display here so well.

Your collages are so cute.

DON'T TRY TO CALL THE RECOGNITION OF MALE AND FEMALE BIGOTRY!

Spongy Iris wrote:
In this instance, I'm calling it how I see it.

Spongy Iris wrote:
You have a couple of athletes, born and raised ladies,

Spongy Iris wrote:
I can only assume have found a sport they love to compete in

Spongy Iris wrote:
and you and your friends try to label them freaks,

Spongy Iris wrote:
ban them from the competition

Spongy Iris wrote:
by changing the definition of a woman.

Spongy Iris wrote:
You guys can't seem to let it go.

Spongy Iris wrote: In this instance, I'm calling it how I see it.

Spongy Iris wrote: You have a couple of athletes, born and raised ladies,

Spongy Iris wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote: Are you saying it's possible to be born with female anatomy and XY chromosomes?

Wrong question.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be female?
ANSWER: No.

QUESTION: Is it possible to be born with XY chromosomes and be born with abnormalities and/or birth defects?
ANSWER: Yes.


What are your thoughts on men just beating the crap out of women? I really think you are a sick f**k. Obviously they are men; every round of every fight was heavily one-sided, as the men beat the crap out of women who couldn't fight back ... and you totally enjoy that sort of thing. You are reprehensible. EVERY SINGLE ROUND. Even the women's welterweight world champion couldn't fight back and just had to stand there and get whalloped for the entire fight. Your justifications for this shit are LAME.

Wow, you admit you were wrong, but still double down on your bigotry by changing the definition of a woman.

You never have to lose an argument when you can change definitions of words. What an excellent example of the "everybody deserves a trophy" culture, which you put on display here so well.

Your collages are so cute.

DON'T TRY TO CALL THE RECOGNITION OF MALE AND FEMALE BIGOTRY!

In this instance, I'm calling it how I see it.

Spongy Iris wrote:
You have a couple of athletes, born and raised ladies,

Spongy Iris wrote:
who I can only assume have found a sport they love to compete in, and you and your friends try to label them freaks,

Spongy Iris wrote:
ban them from the competition,

Spongy Iris wrote:
by changing the definition of a woman.

Spongy Iris wrote:
You guys can't seem to let it go.

IBdaMann wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:Wow, you admit you were wrong, but still double down on your bigotry by changing the definition of a woman.

I'll leave you with this: Now We Know The Truth

Khelif, Yu-Ting and Mboma were likely born with 5alpha-reductase deficiency, a genetic condition that affects sexual development before birth and during puberty. It is caused by mutations in the SRD5A2 gene, which encodes the enzyme 5α-reductase type 2. This enzyme is crucial for converting testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a hormone essential for male sexual development. The enzyme deficiency caused their genitalia to not develop, causing the doctor/nurse/midwife to misgender the newborn as "female" simply on the basis of a missing penis.

They are all men, just not necessarily "whole" men. Those who claim that these men are women who can give birth are gullible morons.

Spongy Iris wrote: Your video can now be dismissed as inconclusive speculation, and I won't bother watching the rest.

Spongy Iris wrote: Your statements that these 2 boxers are males is speculation.

Spongy Iris wrote: Admittedly, I'm also speculating they are female.

Spongy Iris wrote: My opinion is ...

Spongy Iris wrote: ... they would have realized if they were male,

Spongy Iris wrote: certainly by their 20s, and would not have wanted to compete in the Olympics as females.

Spongy Iris wrote: Certainly the matter could be settled by determining if they have ovaries and a uterus.