Newcomer Welcome! from "sealover", PhD biogeochemist

sealover wrote:
Greetings newcomers!

My name is "sealover"

I'm a PhD biogeochemist.

sealover wrote:
Yes, some of you knew that already.

If you want to ask me questions about biogeochemistry.

sealover wrote:
Particularly questions about biogeochemistry related to climate change and ocean "acidification", I would be happy to offer an answer.

sealover wrote:
However, in my case, I offer a streamlined route to get past the trolls in the rabbit hole.

sealover wrote:
It means you'll have to wait a day or so to get your answer, but you won't have to go into the rabbit hole to get it.

By my avatar, you can click on "sealover"

You can then see the titles of my latest posts.

It should be obvious from the titles which post is your specific question.

You won't be exposed to nearly as much noise and abuse this way.

With your question please put a subject title.

Please try to compose a title for the question that gives a way for myself and others to know what it is.

They might want to look at it too.

They might want to answer it too.

But let's do our best to avoid the pitfalls of a website such as this.

Drop in quick to drop off a question.

Pick it up the answer the next day without having to see a word from any troll.

sealover wrote:
Yes, some of you knew that already.

If you want to ask me questions about biogeochemistry.

sealover wrote:
Particularly questions about biogeochemistry related to climate change and ocean "acidification", I would be happy to offer an answer.

sealover wrote:
However, in my case, I offer a streamlined route to get past the trolls in the rabbit hole.

sealover wrote:
It means you'll have to wait a day or so to get your answer, but you won't have to go into the rabbit hole to get it.

By my avatar, you can click on "sealover"

You can then see the titles of my latest posts.

It should be obvious from the titles which post is your specific question.

You won't be exposed to nearly as much noise and abuse this way.

With your question please put a subject title.

Please try to compose a title for the question that gives a way for myself and others to know what it is.

They might want to look at it too.

They might want to answer it too.

But let's do our best to avoid the pitfalls of a website such as this.

Drop in quick to drop off a question.

Pick it up the answer the next day without having to see a word from any troll.

sealover wrote:
Greetings newcomers!

My name is "sealover"

I'm a PhD biogeochemist.

Yes, some of you knew that already.

If you want to ask me questions about biogeochemistry.

Particularly questions about biogeochemistry related to climate change and ocean "acidification", I would be happy to offer an answer.

However, in my case, I offer a streamlined route to get past the trolls in the rabbit hole.

It means you'll have to wait a day or so to get your answer, but you won't have to go into the rabbit hole to get it.

By my avatar, you can click on "sealover"

You can then see the titles of my latest posts.

It should be obvious from the titles which post is your specific question.

You won't be exposed to nearly as much noise and abuse this way.

With your question please put a subject title.

Please try to compose a title for the question that gives a way for myself and others to know what it is.

They might want to look at it too.

They might want to answer it too.

But let's do our best to avoid the pitfalls of a website such as this.

Drop in quick to drop off a question.

Pick it up the answer the next day without having to see a word from any troll.

sealover wrote:
Greetings newcomers!

sealover wrote:
My name is "sealover"

sealover wrote:
I'm a PhD biogeochemist.

sealover wrote:
Yes, some of you knew that already.

sealover wrote:
If you want to ask me questions about biogeochemistry.

Particularly questions about biogeochemistry related to climate change and ocean "acidification", I would be happy to offer an answer.

sealover wrote:
However, in my case, I offer a streamlined route to get past the trolls in the rabbit hole.

sealover wrote:
It means you'll have to wait a day or so to get your answer, but you won't have to go into the rabbit hole to get it.

sealover wrote:
By my avatar, you can click on "sealover"

sealover wrote:
You can then see the titles of my latest posts.

sealover wrote:
It should be obvious from the titles which post is your specific question.

sealover wrote:
You won't be exposed to nearly as much noise and abuse this way.

sealover wrote:
With your question please put a subject title.

Please try to compose a title for the question that gives a way for myself and others to know what it is.

They might want to look at it too.

They might want to answer it too.

But let's do our best to avoid the pitfalls of a website such as this.

Drop in quick to drop off a question.

Pick it up the answer the next day without having to see a word from any troll.

sealover wrote:
You can completely avoid trolls when you post your question.

Just click on "quote" right below this first post of the thread.

You can then blank out the space in this box if you want, or insert your question below it.

You never have to see the ugly stuff the trolls post when posting your questions or finding the response.

They can pile on ugly posts below the first post of each thread, but you'll never have to see them.

Swan wrote:

sealover wrote:
Greetings newcomers!

My name is "sealover"

I'm a PhD biogeochemist.

Yes, some of you knew that already.

If you want to ask me questions about biogeochemistry.

Particularly questions about biogeochemistry related to climate change and ocean "acidification", I would be happy to offer an answer.

However, in my case, I offer a streamlined route to get past the trolls in the rabbit hole.

It means you'll have to wait a day or so to get your answer, but you won't have to go into the rabbit hole to get it.

By my avatar, you can click on "sealover"

You can then see the titles of my latest posts.

It should be obvious from the titles which post is your specific question.

You won't be exposed to nearly as much noise and abuse this way.

With your question please put a subject title.

Please try to compose a title for the question that gives a way for myself and others to know what it is.

They might want to look at it too.

They might want to answer it too.

But let's do our best to avoid the pitfalls of a website such as this.

Drop in quick to drop off a question.

Pick it up the answer the next day without having to see a word from any troll.

Hey turd, if you were new here then no one would know anything about you. So in reality you could not complete two sentences without contradicting yourself

Next

sealover wrote:
You can completely avoid trolls when you post your question.

Into the Night wrote:

sealover wrote:
You can completely avoid trolls when you post your question.

You don't answer questions. You have been asked to define 'climate change' quite a few times now, but you never answered the question put to you.

All you do is troll with gibber-babble and insults.

Answer the question put to you.

sealover wrote:
It sounds like I owe you an apology.

Nobody is forcing you to engage with me.

I promise not to engage with you from now on.

sealover wrote:
There will be a lot of us using buzzword gibber-babble around here before long.

sealover wrote:
At least I will know what they are talking about.

sealover wrote:
Those who don't speak the language aren't required to participate.

I'm hoping that biogeochemistry won't be the only buzzword field of science represented by PhDs.

sealover wrote:
I know a lot of those fakers.

This site isn't quite ready for me to invite them yet.

Into the Night wrote:
There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

I can only figure that he is combining biology, geology, and chemistry all into one word for whatever reason. I'm not sure what's up with that either, but he says a lot of things that don't make sense.


EDIT: Of course, the best source of all things has an entry with regard to this word... From Wikipedia:

"Biogeochemistry is the scientific discipline that involves the study of the chemical, physical, geological, and biological processes and reactions that govern the composition of the natural environment (including the biosphere, the cryosphere, the hydrosphere, the pedosphere, the atmosphere, and the lithosphere).

In particular, biogeochemistry is the study of biogeochemical cycles, the cycles of chemical elements such as carbon and nitrogen, and their interactions with and incorporation into living things transported through earth scale biological systems in space and time.

The field focuses on chemical cycles which are either driven by or influence biological activity. Particular emphasis is placed on the study of carbon, nitrogen, sulfur, iron, and phosphorus cycles. Biogeochemistry is a systems science closely related to systems ecology."

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

I can only figure that he is combining biology, geology, and chemistry all into one word for whatever reason. I'm not sure what's up with that either, but he says a lot of things that don't make sense.
EDIT: Of course, the best source of all things has an entry with regard to this word... From Wikipedia:

So if you get enough box tops, you can get your degree in it. Meh.

IBdaMann wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

I can only figure that he is combining biology, geology, and chemistry all into one word for whatever reason. I'm not sure what's up with that either, but he says a lot of things that don't make sense.
EDIT: Of course, the best source of all things has an entry with regard to this word... From Wikipedia:

So if you get enough box tops, you can get your degree in it. Meh.

How many times have people come to this site claiming to be PhDs in some sort of science, broadcasting their credentials, as a means of bullying people into not questioning their Climate Change proselytizing?

@gfm7175, I think the Wikipedia reference is of particular importance in this case. I can totally believe that seal over has taken some chemistry classes at some point. He treats topics by addressing certain concepts that really are the correct way a chemist would analyze and discusses something. Great.

Unfortunately, as is the case with virtually all warmizombies and climate lemmings, he is simply latching onto something he knows to use as a tool to generate "plausibility" in the minds of those who do not know that subject matter. In this case, seal over interweaves barrages of technical jargon (that are not understandable by your typical poster, ... in the name of bringing the discussion down to the level of the typical poster) amongst pointless anecdotes that simply whine and snivel about how mankind is bad and is destroying the planet and woe are we ... except he thinks he has a solution. All that is needed is to believe him, and to accept him as the authority that is not to be questioned.

That is the telltale sign. He demands unquestioning faith. He will not define his terms and he lashes out at scrutiny, he never clarifies or makes any attempt to convince. One is to believe and obey without question or else he is poised to pour on the bullying and intimidation.

I checked the course catalogs of some of the most liberal universities, looking for biogeochemistry courses. None exist; however, some universities are joining the push to make it a legitimate word in academia. Columbia University, for example, has tacked the word "biogeochemical" onto the end of nine of their course descriptions, two of which you'll appreciate: WETLANDS & CLIMATE CHANGE and FUNDAMENTALS OF EVOLUTION. Stanford has some "Ecosystem Ecology" courses with that word attached, but I have to ask if there exists ecology of something other than ecosystems. Stanford too has some "science of Climate" courses. None have any "Biogeochemistry 101."

@Into the Night, some things that I have noticed in life and you might have as well ...

1) There is no such thing as an actual scientist who is dying to teach newcomers and laypeople by not defining any terms.

IBdaMann wrote:
2) There is no such thing as a teacher who exclusively uses esoteric techno-jargon in a concerted effort to bring the conversation down to the level of the layman.

IBdaMann wrote:
3) There is no such thing as an honest person who comes to an anonymous forum and merely points to his claimed credentials as if that renders him above being questioned.

IBdaMann wrote:
4) There is no such thing as invented, sciency-sounding terms that are used by religious preachers that aren't aimed at A) demonizing science as a threat to the religion or

reining in science under the ownership of the religion, e.g. biogeochemistry, ocean acidification, greenhouse effect, thermal forcing, etc..

IBdaMann wrote:
5) There is no such thing as an honest teacher who lashes out at those who ask questions. See point #3.

IBdaMann wrote:
Just some things I have noticed.

sealover wrote:
For about seven years the same two trolls have made this website a no-go zone.

The goal is pest control.

By allowing users to bypass the troll-infested discussion and go straight to the library.

But these... I won't say it, but they just won't quit.

I will do what I can to ensure that the humiliation of having their idiocy exposed will outweigh the sadistic joy they can't seem to live without.

They'll have to look for another place to troll.

sealover wrote:
Greetings newcomers!

My name is "sealover"

I'm a PhD biogeochemist.

Yes, some of you knew that already.

If you want to ask me questions about biogeochemistry.

Particularly questions about biogeochemistry related to climate change and ocean "acidification", I would be happy to offer an answer.

However, in my case, I offer a streamlined route to get past the trolls in the rabbit hole.

It means you'll have to wait a day or so to get your answer, but you won't have to go into the rabbit hole to get it.

By my avatar, you can click on "sealover"

You can then see the titles of my latest posts.

It should be obvious from the titles which post is your specific question.

You won't be exposed to nearly as much noise and abuse this way.

With your question please put a subject title.

Please try to compose a title for the question that gives a way for myself and others to know what it is.

They might want to look at it too.

They might want to answer it too.

But let's do our best to avoid the pitfalls of a website such as this.

Drop in quick to drop off a question.

Pick it up the answer the next day without having to see a word from any troll.

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

I can only figure that he is combining biology, geology, and chemistry all into one word for whatever reason. I'm not sure what's up with that either, but he says a lot of things that don't make sense.


EDIT: Of course, the best source of all things has an entry with regard to this word... From Wikipedia:

"Biogeochemistry is the scientific discipline that involves the study of the chemical, physical, geological, and biological processes and reactions that govern the composition of the natural environment (including the biosphere, the cryosphere, the hydrosphere, the pedosphere, the atmosphere, and the lithosphere).

In particular, biogeochemistry is the study of biogeochemical cycles, the cycles of chemical elements such as carbon and nitrogen, and their interactions with and incorporation into living things transported through earth scale biological systems in space and time.

The field focuses on chemical cycles which are either driven by or influence biological activity. Particular emphasis is placed on the study of carbon, nitrogen, sulfur, iron, and phosphorus cycles. Biogeochemistry is a systems science closely related to systems ecology."

So if you get enough box tops, you can get your degree in it. Meh.

Into the Night wrote:I realize that you are an atheist, and have no opinion on whether Christ actually exists or not. In the end it doesn't matter.

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

I can only figure that he is combining biology, geology, and chemistry all into one word for whatever reason. I'm not sure what's up with that either, but he says a lot of things that don't make sense.


EDIT: Of course, the best source of all things has an entry with regard to this word... From Wikipedia:

"Biogeochemistry is the scientific discipline that involves the study of the chemical, physical, geological, and biological processes and reactions that govern the composition of the natural environment (including the biosphere, the cryosphere, the hydrosphere, the pedosphere, the atmosphere, and the lithosphere).

In particular, biogeochemistry is the study of biogeochemical cycles, the cycles of chemical elements such as carbon and nitrogen, and their interactions with and incorporation into living things transported through earth scale biological systems in space and time.

The field focuses on chemical cycles which are either driven by or influence biological activity. Particular emphasis is placed on the study of carbon, nitrogen, sulfur, iron, and phosphorus cycles. Biogeochemistry is a systems science closely related to systems ecology."

So if you get enough box tops, you can get your degree in it. Meh.

I just truly appreciated, more than anything else within that Wikipedia entry, the moment in which it literally makes use of the word 'biogeochemical' as if that is somehow supposed to clearly and unambiguously define what 'biogeochemistry' is. Numerous dictionaries tend to pull that crap quite often as well.

IBdaMann wrote:

Into the Night wrote:I realize that you are an atheist, and have no opinion on whether Christ actually exists or not. In the end it doesn't matter.

This is an important point. I can nonetheless have a discussion with you about the merits of each lesson and the extent to which it resonates with me personally. None of our discussion would depend upon any sort of belief that any of the events actually transpired. Thereafter, you and I could discuss Aesop's fables without you having to necessarily believe that those events actually happened. After all, I don't think the tortoise actually showed up for the race but was being pushed hard by the fake news as though he were running against Trump.

My top passage is Matthew 18:23-34. I live by this baby. I may dish out schytt, but it is honest schytt, e.g. math, science, logic ... with defined terms, not pointless dishonesty. Yes, my schytt is laced with mockery and bitch-slapping but only when it is well-deserved by someone who will not extend to others the honesty I extend.

Conversely, the above is my guidance for avoiding committing dishonesty and treachery lest I be deserving of an even greater helping of whoop-azz.

So, if you find this passage underlined in your Bible, I might very well be the guilty party.

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
There is no science called 'biogeochemistry'. No theory of science is based on a buzzword.

I can only figure that he is combining biology, geology, and chemistry all into one word for whatever reason. I'm not sure what's up with that either, but he says a lot of things that don't make sense.


EDIT: Of course, the best source of all things has an entry with regard to this word... From Wikipedia:

"Biogeochemistry is the scientific discipline that involves the study of the chemical, physical, geological, and biological processes and reactions that govern the composition of the natural environment (including the biosphere, the cryosphere, the hydrosphere, the pedosphere, the atmosphere, and the lithosphere).

In particular, biogeochemistry is the study of biogeochemical cycles, the cycles of chemical elements such as carbon and nitrogen, and their interactions with and incorporation into living things transported through earth scale biological systems in space and time.

The field focuses on chemical cycles which are either driven by or influence biological activity. Particular emphasis is placed on the study of carbon, nitrogen, sulfur, iron, and phosphorus cycles. Biogeochemistry is a systems science closely related to systems ecology."

So if you get enough box tops, you can get your degree in it. Meh.

I just truly appreciated, more than anything else within that Wikipedia entry, the moment in which it literally makes use of the word 'biogeochemical' as if that is somehow supposed to clearly and unambiguously define what 'biogeochemistry' is. Numerous dictionaries tend to pull that crap quite often as well.

Ah. The old attempt of defining a buzzword with itself. I noticed that about Wikipedia and other proponents of the Church of Global Warming. Too bad a circular definition doesn't work.

sealover wrote:
One of the way the trolls evade exposing their scientific ignorance is to dismiss any term they don't understand as a "buzzword".

But if these idiots really believe that "biogeochemistry" is just a "buzzword", what makes them think they are competent to criticize the biogeochemistry?

They are not, but that won't stop them. They will say brilliant things like:

"Nitrate cannot be reduced. It is already reduced."

And when backed into a corner.

Nitrate is NOT "reduced". It is "deoxidized".

WOW! they got me on that one.

gfm7175 wrote:

sealover wrote:
One of the way the trolls evade exposing their scientific ignorance is to dismiss any term they don't understand as a "buzzword".

But if these idiots really believe that "biogeochemistry" is just a "buzzword", what makes them think they are competent to criticize the biogeochemistry?

They are not, but that won't stop them. They will say brilliant things like:

"Nitrate cannot be reduced. It is already reduced."

And when backed into a corner.

Nitrate is NOT "reduced". It is "deoxidized".

WOW! they got me on that one.

You need to define your terms if you wish to say something of substance. Define "biogeochemistry".

Circular definitions are not allowed. Definitions based on any other buzzword you wish to dream up are not allowed either.

sealover wrote:
One of the way the trolls evade exposing their scientific ignorance is to dismiss any term they don't understand as a "buzzword".

sealover wrote:
But if these idiots really believe that "biogeochemistry" is just a "buzzword", what makes them think they are competent to criticize the biogeochemistry?

sealover wrote:
They are not, but that won't stop them. They will say brilliant things like:

"Nitrate cannot be reduced. It is already reduced."

sealover wrote:
And when backed into a corner.

Nitrate is NOT "reduced". It is "deoxidized".

sealover wrote:
WOW! they got me on that one.

sealover wrote:
If we were having something other than a less-than-genuine "debate", a challenge to the assertions regarding nitrate reduction would have been addressed.

sealover wrote:
Just because one is too ignorant to understand the words everyone else uses, they are not entitled to bring the conversation to a complete halt.

sealover wrote:
This whole "unambiguous definition" thing is transparently absurd crap.

sealover wrote:
Don't criticize what you don't understand.

sealover wrote:
Or maybe you DO understand.

sealover wrote:
Can nitrate be reduced?

Can nitrate be "deoxidized"?

sealover wrote:
Do we need someone to give an unambiguous definition before we can tell when someone is pretending to understand science, but don't have an effing clue?

sealover wrote:
I am ignorant.

Therefore, everyone else is as ignorant as I am.

I pretend to understand science.

Therefore, everyone else pretends to understand science a I do.

I just make shit up.

Therefore, everyone else just makes shit up as I do.

I lie.

Therefore, everyone else lies as I do.

I can be baffled by bullshit when it is expressed in scientific-sounding terms.

Therefore, everyone else can be baffled by bullshit when it is expressed in scientific-sounding terms.

I have no idea what a term means and imagine it must be a "buzzword".

Therefore, everyone else has no idea what a term means and therefore they imagine it must be a buzzword.

When trolls talk to each other, their projection of their own ignorance leaves them all on an equal footing.

When trolls talk to scientists, their projection of their own ignorance leaves them hopelessly outgunned.

sealover wrote:I am ignorant. Therefore, everyone else is as ignorant as I am.

sealover wrote:I pretend to understand science.

sealover wrote:I just make shit up.

sealover wrote:I lie.

sealover wrote:I can be baffled by bullshit when it is expressed in scientific-sounding terms.

sealover wrote:I have no idea what a term means and imagine it must be a "buzzword".

sealover wrote:When trolls talk to each other, their projection of their own ignorance leaves them all on an equal footing.

sealover wrote:When trolls talk to scientists, their projection of their own ignorance leaves them hopelessly outgunned.

sealover wrote:ATTENTION BIOGEOCHEMISTRY STUDENTS

sealover wrote:DO NOT BECOME A MEMBER OF climate-debate.com BEFORE MAY 1.

sealover wrote:
It is possible that some of the people reading my posts have that noticed that they are, since the very first one, biogeochemistry science lessons.

Irony intended.

It is possible that some of the people reading my posts thought that I just came here to get gang-raped.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Irony intended.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Forum police? This a first. Most forums have moderators and administrators to police their sites. Never been on one, where on just shows up, and attempt to take control of a website, with self-appointed, authority. Obviously, a democrat, with an unwavering faith in the doomsday prophecies. Authoritarian, egotistical, condescending. nanny.

Most people who don't like a website, the either google for one better suited, or create their own. There are several free hosting options, but get loaded with advertisements. Of course, running a website is a lot of work, near impossible for a control-freak, specially a democrat. Not everyone thinks the same way, or believes the same things, as the democrat party, so there are hurt feelings to deal with. Banning all non-democrats, leaves you with just a bunch of boot-lickers, who just regurgitate the party-approved message of the day. What's to discuss, if everyone agrees?

I've never been banned permanently on any forum. I enjoy the challenge of still expressing myself, within the confines of the enforced rules. I'm not sure what someone would need to do here, to even get banned briefly. Probably stuff that is illegal, or just totally offensive, even for a Norwegian. I don't think self-declared authority buys much control here.

What happens on May 1st? Super-volcano, earthquake, hurricane? How many SafeMoon coins to save humanity? Oops, wrong savior...

sealover wrote:

I would really love to be able to understand your position. Seriously.

I'm sure that there is someplace you have written a concise, clear explanation.

Please tell me where I can find your scientific papers so I can read them.

But I'm pretty sure you will say:

"Science is not papers."

You wouldn't dare admit to your more frequent go-to line.

"What scientific papers?"

sealover wrote:

sealover wrote:
It is possible that some of the people reading my posts have that noticed that they are, since the very first one, biogeochemistry science lessons.

Irony intended.

It is possible that some of the people reading my posts thought that I just came here to get gang-raped.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Irony intended.

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It is possible that some of the people reading the above post noticed that I messed up the first sentence.

I didn't notice.

And that's the problem.

I'm doing this off the top of my head, with no way save drafts for editing.

NONE OF THIS IS CITABLE IN ANY WAY.

Just trust me that all the basic stuff was right.

Some of you believe in the credibility of my credentials.

Irony intended.

But sometimes I'm thinking about what arsenate does as a biogeochemical player and I accidentally write "arsenite"

I didn't have a chance to compile and polish it all, making sure I didn't accidentally eff it up.

sealover wrote:
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