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new strain21-12-2020 00:24
keepit
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There's a new strain of covid invading the UK.
According the Guardian it is immune to the vaccine but according to US News is not immune to the vaccine.
Who is fake news?
21-12-2020 02:53
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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Oh No! We are all going to die horribly, hiding in our basements...

Guess the UK wants to control their citizens, more than Americans. Obviously, if it's a new strain in UK, then we haven't had it yet, or we were lied to (again). We are already seeing reluctance to get the potentially lethal injection, of Pfizer vaccine. Been quite a few willing to wait for the Mederna.

One good thing about it mutating, no way are they going to sell masks, or any of the other crap, since it'll never end, ever. High-risk people, should accept that their are going to have a couple days fewer, and prepare. Make sure they reserve a plot and a box early, and get their deposit down. Otherwise, it's the burn and urn option (or worse). Not a good way to go, all that CO2 released from the crematoriums. Maybe the Rev. James will speak a few strange words over your box.

The vaccines that have been approved, used mRNA, which from what I understand, is completely new technology, and very specific to Covid-19. I don't thing UK, or the US know if the vaccine will work on the mutation, until they try it. They won't know if the vaccine will actually provide lasting immunity, or for how long. Hasn't been that long, since the started sticking volunteers. The original goal, was a single dose vaccine, which they modified during the Phase III trials. Think they announce, late October, meaning, they didn't know what they were doing, and just trying to salvage the work they did.
21-12-2020 08:45
duncan61
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If I contract Covid I am going to try a course of leaches
21-12-2020 10:15
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
If I contract Covid I am going to try a course of leaches


Wrong type of infection. Leaches are for bacterial infections. Also work well on bruises and swelling. Unless you were referring to the leaches on society...
21-12-2020 10:57
Xadoman
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I also wonder how do they know it is a new strain. Does it look different under the electron microscope or smth? I myself do not belive any of this "new strain" bs. All they want is just to pump money out of the federal budget using testing, vaccination etc etc.
21-12-2020 14:07
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
There's a new strain of covid invading the UK.
According the Guardian it is immune to the vaccine but according to US News is not immune to the vaccine.
Who is fake news?


Both are.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

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21-12-2020 17:39
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
There's a new strain of covid invading the UK.
According the Guardian it is immune to the vaccine but according to US News is not immune to the vaccine.
Who is fake news?

Both of them are fake news.
22-12-2020 19:45
keepit
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ITN and gfm,
You guys are hilarious.

Xadoman,
Have you joined the contest to see who is the most paranoid?
Edited on 22-12-2020 19:46
22-12-2020 21:05
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
ITN and gfm,
You guys are hilarious.

Xadoman,
Have you joined the contest to see who is the most paranoid?

Still nothing intelligent to say I see...
22-12-2020 21:18
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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Personally, I think the Covid-19 scam is starting to fall apart. It's simply a cold virus, and really has been pretty mild, compared to many of the past pandemics. It's been inflated, and over-hyped, with bureaucratic interpretations.

Apparently, the 'experts' have been aware of variants (mutations) since March. Which makes it incurable, like any other cold virus. Also highly likely, the vaccines will be a huge failure as well. No cold vaccines, why would we expect one for Covid-19? Oh, they used a different approach for these vaccines, mRNA. Which is something odd as well. First time use in a vaccine, and declared safe and effective, everyone should try it... So far, only a half dozen or so, have collapsed on camera, and needed emergency treatment. But there are hundreds of reports, of people unable to work, after receiving the vaccine for a day, some serious enough to seek medical treatment. There should be a CDC report on this, since the FDA included surveillance in their emergency approval.
22-12-2020 22:47
Xadoman
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Personally, I think the Covid-19 scam is starting to fall apart. It's simply a cold virus, and really has been pretty mild, compared to many of the past pandemics. It's been inflated, and over-hyped, with bureaucratic interpretations.

Apparently, the 'experts' have been aware of variants (mutations) since March. Which makes it incurable, like any other cold virus. Also highly likely, the vaccines will be a huge failure as well. No cold vaccines, why would we expect one for Covid-19? Oh, they used a different approach for these vaccines, mRNA. Which is something odd as well. First time use in a vaccine, and declared safe and effective, everyone should try it... So far, only a half dozen or so, have collapsed on camera, and needed emergency treatment. But there are hundreds of reports, of people unable to work, after receiving the vaccine for a day, some serious enough to seek medical treatment. There should be a CDC report on this, since the FDA included surveillance in their emergency approval.


Our medical "expert" said about the new strain, that there is nothing unusual of the virus mutations because if the virus gets into the body it greates billions of different mutations of itself. He also quite confidently declared that there is no reason to think that the vaccine should not work on them.
I thought about it a little and it seems logical to me that the reason for the "new strain" scam is just to excuse out the unefficiency of vaccinations to save lives. People would otherwise start to ask questions why the vaccinations would not work. Now they can conveniently refer to a new strain without further explanations. So basically it is a scam to mask the other scam.
I also think the whole thing is going to fall apart soon. People are tired of wearing masks. Masks are also quite expensive if you replace them after every 2 hours.
22-12-2020 22:48
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
ITN and gfm,
You guys are hilarious.

Xadoman,
Have you joined the contest to see who is the most paranoid?


No, I don't want to join in your own contest with other Democrats.

I don't worry about the Dreaded Covid.
I don't worry about the Dreaded Climate Change.
I don't worry about the Dreaded Use of Oil.
I don't worry about the Dreaded Trump.

You do...and look what it's done to you.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
Edited on 22-12-2020 22:49
23-12-2020 00:58
keepit
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What about Biden being president?
What about socialism?
What about other people's interpretation of the Constitution?
Etc., etc.

As a former medical professional i just try to inform about the current medical science concerning covid. I don't really fear it, i just stay away from it.
Taking precautions isn't the same as fearing. You can see that yourself when you take precautions regarding aviation.
Edited on 23-12-2020 01:13
23-12-2020 01:06
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote: What about Biden being president?

Trump will be inaugurated in January.

keepit wrote:What about socialism?

Trump is doing a great job keeping the socialism at bay.

keepit wrote:What about other people's interpretation of the Constitution? Etc., etc.

Who gets to interpret the Constitution besides the States?


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
24-12-2020 02:24
keepit
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I watched some medical expert on CNN or MSNBC talking about the new strain of covid. He said that the new strain, being a more contagious version, will cause illness with a smaller load of virus invading the victim than the covid we know about. The new strain has an improved capability to attach to the human cell. Obviously this is not good regarding masks and social distancing. The masks will hold back the same amount of virus but the load of virus that gets in will have a greater probability of causing illness.
Regarding social distancing, the same distance will allow the same amount of virus to be encountered but a smaller load will be more dangerous.
Edited on 24-12-2020 02:28
24-12-2020 02:35
James___
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keepit wrote:
I watched some medical expert on CNN or MSNBC talking about the new strain of covid. He said that the new strain, being a more contagious version, will cause illness with a smaller load of virus invading the victim than the covid we know about. The new strain has an improved capability to attach to the human cell. Obviously this is not good regarding masks and social distancing. The masks will hold back the same amount of virus but the load of virus that gets in will have a greater probability of causing illness.
Regarding social distancing, the same distance will allow the same amount of virus to be encountered but a smaller load will be more dangerous.



Why what we're doing is a waste of time, right? Death is a consequence of life.
To stop death, we need to stop life. After all, life is death's mistress.
24-12-2020 03:19
James___
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keepit wrote:
I watched some medical expert on CNN or MSNBC talking about the new strain of covid. He said that the new strain, being a more contagious version, will cause illness with a smaller load of virus invading the victim than the covid we know about. The new strain has an improved capability to attach to the human cell. Obviously this is not good regarding masks and social distancing. The masks will hold back the same amount of virus but the load of virus that gets in will have a greater probability of causing illness.
Regarding social distancing, the same distance will allow the same amount of virus to be encountered but a smaller load will be more dangerous.



What we do comes back to people making money. With Harvey and raccoon, his perspective. What is missing is people having a life. What does that require? Some natural habitat for animals? Do we know what we need?
We like buildings and generic consumables.
24-12-2020 09:50
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
I watched some medical expert on CNN or MSNBC talking about the new strain of covid. He said that the new strain, being a more contagious version, will cause illness with a smaller load of virus invading the victim than the covid we know about. The new strain has an improved capability to attach to the human cell. Obviously this is not good regarding masks and social distancing. The masks will hold back the same amount of virus but the load of virus that gets in will have a greater probability of causing illness.
Regarding social distancing, the same distance will allow the same amount of virus to be encountered but a smaller load will be more dangerous.


More 'fake news'... They just want to keep people too afraid to venture out of their basements. The 'experts' didn't explain how they know there are variants, or how they are tracking the rate of spread for each. Don't you feel lied to, because they withheld this shocking nugget, until after the holy vaccine, for which we have faithfully been waiting, was delivered? Getting vaccinated, doesn't free you of the mask, or basement dwelling. It's never going to end. The 'experts' will always find new, and deadly strains, and order you back in the basement, until there is a new vaccine. Healthy people, mind and body, don't like getting pushed around, by government, or anyone else.
24-12-2020 11:42
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
What about Biden being president?

He has to win first. RQAA.
keepit wrote:
What about socialism?

It is theft of wealth. RQAA.
keepit wrote:
What about other people's interpretation of the Constitution?

It is clearly written. RQAA.
keepit wrote:
As a former medical professional

I don't believe you.
keepit wrote:
i just try to inform about the current medical science concerning covid.

There isn't any.
keepit wrote:
I don't really fear it, i just stay away from it.

Fine.
keepit wrote:
Taking precautions isn't the same as fearing.

You are preaching hypochondria. There is precaution, and there is fear. You are in fear.
keepit wrote:
You can see that yourself when you take precautions regarding aviation.

But I'm not afraid to fly, build, or fix aircraft.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
24-12-2020 11:46
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
I watched some medical expert

Expert worship.
keepit wrote:
on CNN or MSNBC

Fake News.
keepit wrote:
talking about the new strain of covid.

Fake News.
keepit wrote:
He said that the new strain, being a more contagious version, will cause illness with a smaller load of virus invading the victim than the covid we know about. The new strain has an improved capability to attach to the human cell.

Fear mongering. Fake News.
keepit wrote:
Obviously this is not good regarding masks and social distancing. The masks will hold back the same amount of virus but the load of virus that gets in will have a greater probability of causing illness.

Masks are completely ineffective against viruses.
keepit wrote:
Regarding social distancing, the same distance will allow the same amount of virus to be encountered but a smaller load will be more dangerous.

6 feet does not stop a virus.

Edicts by governors are unconstitutional.
Closing businesses down as 'non-essential' does not stop a virus and is unconstitutional.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
24-12-2020 18:45
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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6 feet of dirt, is suppose to stop anything from escaping the box...
24-12-2020 22:03
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
6 feet of dirt, is suppose to stop anything from escaping the box...

Dirt is porous. See your local septic system engineer for details.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
25-12-2020 16:15
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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Into the Night wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
6 feet of dirt, is suppose to stop anything from escaping the box...

Dirt is porous. See your local septic system engineer for details.


I was referencing a grave, for the 'fear mongering' value... Obviously, the dirt and the casket don't stop anything, worms still get in there, eventually.
28-12-2020 17:48
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
I watched some medical expert on CNN or MSNBC

This was your first mistake.

keepit wrote:
talking about the new strain of covid. He said that the new strain, being a more contagious version, will cause illness with a smaller load of virus invading the victim than the covid we know about. The new strain has an improved capability to attach to the human cell.

Of course it's "super deadly covid 2.0"... the fables need to become scarier in order to keep the proles (such as yourself) "in line". Be a good little sheep. BAAAAAAAA!!!

keepit wrote:
Obviously this is not good regarding masks and social distancing. The masks will hold back the same amount of virus but the load of virus that gets in will have a greater probability of causing illness.
Regarding social distancing, the same distance will allow the same amount of virus to be encountered but a smaller load will be more dangerous.

Masks and social distancing do not "hold back" viruses. They are in the air, everywhere, ready to make their way into your body through your nose/mouth/eyes/etc... A mask does not stop that. Six feet apart does not stop that. Plastic barriers and wrappings do not stop that. Holding your breath as you walk by someone else does not stop that. Wearing gloves does not stop that. Giving dirty looks towards (and jumping away from) people who are not wearing a mask does not stop that.

There is no need to live your life in fear. Life is short. Enjoy it!
29-12-2020 09:57
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:Masks and social distancing do not "hold back" viruses.

Sometimes they're held back in the third grade.

gfm7175 wrote: They are in the air, everywhere,

Just like Climate. Good ol' Climate.

I heard that Climate is really good at telling jokes:

A Priest, a Rabbi and a BLM rioter walk into a bar. The Priest says "At this last Sunday's mass, the congregation raised their voices in song and elevated the CO2 levels inside the church to 900 ppm! The rabbi responded "That's nothing, this last Sabbath's k'ne-set worshipped so intently that we raised the CO2 level in the synagogue to over 1000 ppm! The BLM rioter added "I don't know anything about CO2 levels because all of this last weekend's vandalism and looting was mostly outdoors.
So the Sheriff barged in and fined the priest and the rabbi for inciting religious worship.

Hillarious! Awesome! This one never gets old!

.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
29-12-2020 16:41
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Masks and social distancing do not "hold back" viruses.

Sometimes they're held back in the third grade.

... which makes them super pissed off, turns them into "covid 2.0", and makes them become much more virulent than "regular covid".

IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote: They are in the air, everywhere,

Just like Climate. Good ol' Climate.

I heard that Climate is really good at telling jokes:

A Priest, a Rabbi and a BLM rioter walk into a bar. The Priest says "At this last Sunday's mass, the congregation raised their voices in song and elevated the CO2 levels inside the church to 900 ppm! The rabbi responded "That's nothing, this last Sabbath's k'ne-set worshipped so intently that we raised the CO2 level in the synagogue to over 1000 ppm! The BLM rioter added "I don't know anything about CO2 levels because all of this last weekend's vandalism and looting was mostly outdoors.
So the Sheriff barged in and fined the priest and the rabbi for inciting religious worship.

Hillarious! Awesome! This one never gets old!

.

Climate told quite the knee-slapper there! Thanks... Now I need a knee replacement...




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