| 12-07-2026 23:21 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Nitrogen is not a fungi. Tannin is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not organic. Ammonium is not a chemical. Nitrate is not a chemical. Fungus is not a plant. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Carbon is not a cycle. Carbon is not organic. Carbon is not carbon dioxide. Fungus is not a plant. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Nitrogen is not a cycle. Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not nitrous oxide. Oxygen is not bacteria. Nitrate is not a chemical. A greenhouse is not a gas. Nitrous oxide is not a greenhouse. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: There is no such thing as 'tannin biogeochemistry'. Tannins is not a chemical. Polyphenols is not a chemical. Tannin is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Vanity. Science is not a paper. Science is not a cite. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Nitrogen is not a fertilzer. Carbon is not a pool. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Carbon is not a storage. Nitrogen is not a fertilizer. Tannin is not a chemical. 'bionmass' is not a word. 'necromass' is not a word. Forest is not tundra. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Quoting other idiots that follow your idiocy and buzzword is just you being vain again. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 12-07-2026 23:52 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Science is not a paper. Science is not a cite. Science is not an award. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: There is no such thing as 'organic matter stabilization'. Dirt is not an acid. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Science is not a journal. Science is not prestige. Science is not a paper. Dirt is not an acid. Conifer phenolic is not a chemical. Acid is not a gradient. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Polyphenol is not a chemical. There is no such thing as a 'biogeochemist'. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Science is not a paper. There is no such thing as biogeochemistry. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: The Earth is not a nutrient cycle. Nitrogen is not a rock. Phosphorus is not derived. Nitrogen is not derived. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: There is no such thing as a 'biogeochemist'. Nitrogen is not a rock. Nitrogen is not a river. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Nitrogen is not a rock. You don't get to speak for the dead. Nitrate is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not a flux. Nitrogen is not a vehicle. You cannot analyze what does not exist. Persulfate is not a chemical. Conductimetric is not a word. NO3-N is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Alkaline persulfate is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not organic. Carbon is not organic. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: You deny science. You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy. Nitrogen is not a river. Amino is not a chemical. Science is not the EPA or any other government agency. Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not a rock. Ammonium is not a chemical. Nitrate is not a chemical. Nitrite is not a chemical. NOx is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Science is not an award. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Sequestration is just a buzzword. Science is not funding. So you want to live on welfare. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote 'ecosystem' is not a word. 'carbon sequestration' is a buzzword. Dirt is not nitrous oxide. Tannin is not a chemical. Polyphenol is not a chemical. ecology is not a chemical. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemical'. Carbon is not 'regulated'. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not a rock. Carbon is not organic. Fungus is not a plant. Tannins is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not nitrous oxide. Nitrate is not a chemical. Photosynthate is not a chemical. Carbon is not 'sequestered'. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Tannins is not a chemical. Ammonium is not a chemical. Nitrate is not a chemical. Nitrifying is not a word. Tannin is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not a 'leaching loss'. Nitrogen is not a 'release'. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Tannins is not a chemical. Sand is not an acid. A forest is not a desert. Tannin is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Tannins is not a chemical. Humic is not a chemical. Tannin is not a chemical. Carbon is not sequestered. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Polyphenol is not a chemical. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Carbon is not sequestered. Carbon is not nitrous oxide. Tannin is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not a rock. Nitrogen is not organic. NItrogen is not dirt. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 13-07-2026 06:02 | |
| IBdaMann (15424) |
Im a BM wrote: According to some new theories, the mass extinction 252 million years ago was initially triggered by Siberian vulcanism, but went on to wipe out life on a much larger scale because rainforests were lost as a "sink" for atmospheric carbon dioxide. This sounds like am interesting sci-fi storyline. In which galaxy were you thinking? Im a BM wrote: I think it was fifteen years ago when I first read about the quantities of [plant food] emitted to the atmosphere from the disturbed peatlands of Southeast Asia. ... and ...? Im a BM wrote: An undisturbed peatland is a "sink" for carbon dioxide My front lawn is a sink for CO2. Im a BM wrote: Some estimates fifteen years ago suggested that CO2 emissions from the Southeast Asian peatlands being drained for agriculture ALREADY exceeded CO2 emissions from all human use of fossil fuel. What use do humans have for fuel used by fossils? ... or are you talking about the fossils we burn for fuel? How were the CO2 "emissions" calculated? Your religion is stupid. Im a BM wrote: The point is that our fossil fuel emissions are becoming a minority part of anthropogenic CO2 emissions. The point is that there is no such thing as antithoroughlygenetic CO2 emissions. Your religion is stupid. Im a BM wrote: The quantity of CO2 emitted directly from burning fuel is now exceeded by the quantity of CO2 emitted due to OTHER human activities, such as deforestation and drainage of wetlands for agriculture. ... and you wonder why your religion is dead. Im a BM wrote: Climate change itself, Which climate? No climate of which I am aware has changed one iota over my lifetime. What the F are you talking about? Im a BM wrote: due primarily to increased [abundance of plant food] Im a BM wrote: Full Focus on Fossil Fuel Fails What are fossil fuels? You still haven't stated whether you are talking about fossils that are burned as fuel or fuels burned by fossils. Im a BM wrote: If the only approach employed by humans to address climate change is the reduction of fossil fuel combustion, it is doomed to fail. Let's see, *there are no fossil fuels *there is no Climate Change *there is no problem to solve *there is nothing that can somehow fail Im a BM wrote: First, it will fail because it will never happen. Im a BM wrote:Second, it will fail because even if it happens, it won't be enough. The word "it" is so very meaningful. Im a BM wrote:There are too many other new sources of greenhouse gas entering the atmosphere. Are you talking about the amazing greenhouse gas with miraculous superpowers to defy thermodynamics that I've heard so much about? Your religion practically revolves around this stuff. Your greenhouse effect miracle is one of the greatest miracles of the world of religion; it defies even the otherwise indominable Stefan-Boltzmann law. Im a BM wrote: Climate change itself is causing the Earth to increase its natural emissions of carbon dioxide and methane. How are we affecting the natural emissions on Mars and Saturn? Im a BM wrote: The warming of the tundra. That's called the "onset of summer". Im a BM wrote: The increased frequency and severity of wildfires. That's called California's "deliberate mismanagement". Im a BM wrote: The decreased capacity of coral reefs to act as a carbon "sink". There's no decreased capacity there, not that there somehow needs to be. The coral reefs are still fine; they haven't perished. Im a BM wrote: Human activity other than fossil fuel combustion results in carbon dioxide emissions that rival those from fossil fuel. Your religion is stupid. Im a BM wrote: Poor land management provoking loss of soil organic matter to be released as carbon dioxide. How is organic matter "released"? Does someone let it fall out of his hands? How does the released organic matter become converted to CO2? Your religion is stupid. Im a BM wrote: The list goes on of all the things we do beyond fossil fuel to cause more greenhouse gases to warm the planet. Who is "we"? How far beyond the fuel used by fossils does something need to be to count? Im a BM wrote: So, the only real hope is to somehow significantly increase the amount of carbon dioxide that gets sequestered from the atmosphere. Explain to me again why any rational adult would wish to do this. Im a BM wrote: Some are inventing technological devices to try to do this. ... and I was worried that this would be attempted with devices that weren't technological. Im a BM wrote: Others are attempting to enable natural ecosystems to sequester more carbon dioxide. One can only hope that any attempt to enable natural ecosystems will be based on technological devices. Im a BM wrote: In theory, if we provided enough bioavailable iron to the sea, it would act as fertilizer for a whole lot more marine photosynthesis to sequester CO2. In theory, as long as we simply care enough, that is all that should matter. If we destroy the planet or save it, at least we tried, right? Im a BM wrote:Natural ecosystems are often very good at sequestering carbon dioxide. My front lawn is very good at sequestering carbon dioxide. |
| 13-07-2026 21:24 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
sealover wrote: Stop spamming. |
| 14-07-2026 03:28 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Stop spamming. Stop talking to yourself. |
| 18-07-2026 00:37 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
July 17, 2026 Newest paper to cite sealover's dissolved organic nitrogen assay method, came out three weeks ago. Xiao Wei, et al. 2026. Adaptive microbial life-history strategies mediate soil nitrogen cycling across cropping systems. Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment. Volume 411, 1 November 2026, 110608 I need to read it, as well as the newest paper by Fubara et al (2026) to have more to say about how it is relevant to the thread topic. This brand new paper deserves more attention after I get a chance to read it. This came out 7 days ago, on the 4th of July, 2026. Maybe it was "magic". B.A. Fubara, et al. 2026. A review on bioactive compounds mitigating climate change. Discover Chemistry(2026) 3:385 It cites my 1995 paper in Nature. "condensed tannins reduce enteric methane by 15-30% and soil N2O by 30-70%" That is just from one sentence of the abstract. Tannins reduce cow gas (CH4) and soil N2O emissions. This paper deserves more discussion in this thread, as it is very much on topic. I'm sure the two remaining trolls at climate-debate.com will shit all over it. |
| 18-07-2026 07:03 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
sealover wrote: Nitrogen is not organic. sealover wrote: There is no such thing as 'bioactive compounds'. Climate cannot change. sealover wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. There is no such thing as 'enteric methane'. sealover wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Cows are not gaseous. Cows are not methane. sealover wrote: No problem. Happy to do so. Science is not a paper. Science is not a cow. Science is not made up 'chemicals'. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 03-08-2026 19:22 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
August 3, 2026 update Thread-topic-relevant papers that cite "sealover" pubs. Came out 13 days ago: JA Ceja-Navarro, et al. 2026. Ecosystems retrogression enhances cross-domain microbial stability and increases the genetic potential for nutrient cycling. mLife 2026 doi.org/10.1002/mlf2.70087 This paper actually did research on the Ecological Staircase and pygmy forest, which Hans Jenny loved and encouraged me to investigate. Big picture: Ecosystems with sufficient water and soil nutrient availability form "mull" type humus that readily decomposes and gets incorporated into the mineral soil by burrowing organisms. Ecosystems with sufficient water but low soil nutrient availability form "mor" type humus, with unincorporated litter accumulating on the soil surface and distinct stratification of separate soil layers. This new paper gets into the "cross-domain" (fungi versus bacteria in different KINGDOMS of living things) phenomenon observed. Nutrient poor soils are dominated by fungi rather than bacteria, with mycorrhizal fungi accounting for most of the fungal biomass. Nutrient rich soils are dominated by bacteria with rapid turnover of nitrogen, phosphorus, etc. via bacterial decomposition. Came out 17 days ago: SO Afriyie. 2026. Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on microbial communities linked to carbon cycling in mangrove sediments. It's too soon for me to get the actual paper to find out why they cited me. But notice that word "mangrove" up in there. Just BEGGING to be ridiculed! Go for it, you scientifically-illiterate TROLLS! Aren't mangroves worthy of ridicule? July 17, 2026 Newest paper to cite sealover's dissolved organic nitrogen assay method, came out three weeks ago. Xiao Wei, et al. 2026. Adaptive microbial life-history strategies mediate soil nitrogen cycling across cropping systems. Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment. Volume 411, 1 November 2026, 110608 I need to read it, as well as the newest paper by Fubara et al (2026) to have more to say about how it is relevant to the thread topic. This brand new paper deserves more attention after I get a chance to read it. This came out 7 days ago, on the 4th of July, 2026. Maybe it was "magic". B.A. Fubara, et al. 2026. A review on bioactive compounds mitigating climate change. Discover Chemistry(2026) 3:385 It cites my 1995 paper in Nature. "condensed tannins reduce enteric methane by 15-30% and soil N2O by 30-70%" That is just from one sentence of the abstract. Tannins reduce cow gas (CH4) and soil N2O emissions. This paper deserves more discussion in this thread, as it is very much on topic. I'm sure the two remaining trolls at climate-debate.com will shit all over it. |
| 16-08-2026 23:47 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
August 16, 2026 update Another recent paper which cites "sealover": Ann Y. Polyakov, et al. 2026. Spatiotemporal differences in salmon nutrient inputs restructure functional and taxonomic fungal communities in riparian systems. (Still a preprint from bioRxiv) Not too long ago it was discovered that in at least some forested water catchments, the largest source of exogenous bioavailable nitrogen entering the system is via salmon. They accumulate marine nitrogen in their bodies (mainly as protein) and then transport it upland and upstream to terrestrial ecosystems. This article points out, among other things, that the kind of fungi that are best adapted to exploit salmon nitrogen deposited in the soil as bear poop, etc., are not the same as the fungi that dominate salmon-free, forested water catchments They cite my work as identifying the contrasting ecosystem dynamics, where mycorrhizal fungi associated with tree roots dominate, and they monopolize the very limited nitrogen supply. Eventually, I'll read all the newest articles citing my work for a more complete... ------------------- August 3, 2026 update Thread-topic-relevant papers that cite "sealover" pubs. Came out 13 days ago: JA Ceja-Navarro, et al. 2026. Ecosystems retrogression enhances cross-domain microbial stability and increases the genetic potential for nutrient cycling. mLife 2026 doi.org/10.1002/mlf2.70087 This paper actually did research on the Ecological Staircase and pygmy forest, which Hans Jenny loved and encouraged me to investigate. Big picture: Ecosystems with sufficient water and soil nutrient availability form "mull" type humus that readily decomposes and gets incorporated into the mineral soil by burrowing organisms. Ecosystems with sufficient water but low soil nutrient availability form "mor" type humus, with unincorporated litter accumulating on the soil surface and distinct stratification of separate soil layers. This new paper gets into the "cross-domain" (fungi versus bacteria in different KINGDOMS of living things) phenomenon observed. Nutrient poor soils are dominated by fungi rather than bacteria, with mycorrhizal fungi accounting for most of the fungal biomass. Nutrient rich soils are dominated by bacteria with rapid turnover of nitrogen, phosphorus, etc. via bacterial decomposition. Came out 17 days ago: SO Afriyie. 2026. Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on microbial communities linked to carbon cycling in mangrove sediments. It's too soon for me to get the actual paper to find out why they cited me. But notice that word "mangrove" up in there. Just BEGGING to be ridiculed! Go for it, you scientifically-illiterate TROLLS! Aren't mangroves worthy of ridicule? July 17, 2026 Newest paper to cite sealover's dissolved organic nitrogen assay method, came out three weeks ago. Xiao Wei, et al. 2026. Adaptive microbial life-history strategies mediate soil nitrogen cycling across cropping systems. Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment. Volume 411, 1 November 2026, 110608 I need to read it, as well as the newest paper by Fubara et al (2026) to have more to say about how it is relevant to the thread topic. This brand new paper deserves more attention after I get a chance to read it. This came out 7 days ago, on the 4th of July, 2026. Maybe it was "magic". B.A. Fubara, et al. 2026. A review on bioactive compounds mitigating climate change. Discover Chemistry(2026) 3:385 It cites my 1995 paper in Nature. "condensed tannins reduce enteric methane by 15-30% and soil N2O by 30-70%" That is just from one sentence of the abstract. Tannins reduce cow gas (CH4) and soil N2O emissions. This paper deserves more discussion in this thread, as it is very much on topic. I'm sure the two remaining trolls at climate-debate.com will shit all over it. This August 16 update is NOT spam! |
| 17-08-2026 07:20 | |
| IBdaMann (15424) |
These had to have been written by BabbleGibberChemicals:Ann Y. Polyakov, et al. 2026. Spatiotemporal differences in salmon nutrient inputs restructure functional and taxonomic fungal communities in riparian systems. (Still a preprint from bioRxiv) * Spatiotemporal differences - How far apart they are geographically and by how much time they missed each other. This is the kind of stuff everyone needs to know * salmon nutrient inputs - This is the fuqking title, the author is supposed to say what those "inputs" are. The author could have simply written "nitrogen" but that would have defeated the purpose of making this article the completely convoluted waste of bandwidth it was always meant to be. * "restructure functional and taxonomic fungal communities" - should have just written "affect the mycobiome's size and shape" ... but that would have been easily understood, and we can't have that, now can we? * "in riparian systems" - the author probably doesn't even know what a system is, and one can bet the farm that there is no unambiguous definition, because the author is just like Robert, a scientifically illiterate moron who publishes word salads in shit rags just to feel important. There is obviously nothing of value in this article, nor was there ever any intended to be. JA Ceja-Navarro, et al. 2026. Ecosystems retrogression enhances cross-domain microbial stability and increases the genetic potential for nutrient cycling. mLife 2026 doi.org/10.1002/mlf2.70087 This title should have been "As ecosystems age, microbes step up to the plate." However, you seem to be saying that the title should have been "Nutrient poor soils are dominated by fungi rather than bacteria." Compositionally, I think that is just one of the ramifications that should be noted. In any event, whoever wrote the title is an idiot, probably reflected in the article. SO Afriyie. 2026. Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on microbial communities linked to carbon cycling in mangrove sediments. The word "linked" gets the article tossed. "Linked" means nothing. The author could have written "Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on microbial communities linked to the Big Bang." Junior league wannabes should learn how to write first. Thereafter, they should think through their material and actually form a coherent point that is somewhat value-added. I should submit a paper to Nature titled "Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on Microbial Communities Linked to Ozone Depletion Killing off Dominican Coral Reefs through Ocean Acidification" Xiao Wei, et al. 2026. Adaptive microbial life-history strategies mediate soil nitrogen cycling across cropping systems. Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment. Volume 411, 1 November 2026, 110608 This one is fine. It also happens to be common knowledge. I should write a similar paper titled "Regular maintenance on your vehicle determines how well it performs and for how long." Everyone knows that the type of crops determine the prevalent microbes in the soil which determine how various plants fare. B.A. Fubara, et al. 2026. A review on bioactive compounds mitigating climate change. Discover Chemistry(2026) 3:385 Too funny! Discover Chemistry is a co-generator of IPCC reports. The IPCC turns to Springer Nature (jointly owned by European interests Holtzbrinck Publishing Group and BC Partners) who owns Discover Chemistry, for content for the IPCC reports. Discover Chemistry and Springer Nature have no use for science, so they don't publish any. All they care about is supporting the Marxist agenda of the European Union and the socialist agenda of the IPCC. This article contains no definition of the global climate or of climate change. Are all of these articles written by Marxist trolls? Who knows? |
| 17-08-2026 23:25 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
"Are all of these articles written by Marxist trolls? Who knows?" - IBdaMann Pick me, Teacher! PLEASE PICK ME! I DO know. No, not every one of these article was written by Marxist trolls. But for some insight into how the so-called "peer review" process works... In the first hours after my very first post here, IBdaMann was attacking... exposing my scientific illiteracy and fraudulence. I mentioned that I had authored some widely-cited, peer-reviewed scientific papers that had gotten a lot of attention from climate scientists, in multiple journals, including the highly prestigious journal Nature, and the up-and-coming major journal of significance Biogeochemistry. IBdaMann had a devastating comeback: "Translation: 'I wrote crap that appealed to scientifically illiterate leftist political hacktivists at local ANTIFA, BLM, and Communist Party chapters!" This deep insight into the peer review process explains it all. A journal such as Nature contacts the local "Communist Party chapter" where the author lives before making any editorial decisions. That makes sense, right? IBdaMann's basic delusional nature is revealed. He is a conspiracy nut! Who also happens to be an arrogant, obnoxious, scientifically-illiterate troll who found a rabbit hole with no moderator to ban him. Everyone else left voluntarily. There is no point wasting time trying to have a rational discussion with him. He doesn't even know how to READ! But he'll find assertions that only he could see, and he will NAIL you on it. Apparently, I unknowingly asserted that "water cannot evaporate". That was a stupid thing to say, if I ever really said it. Yes, water CAN evaporate. But evaporation cannot remove the acidifying effects of carbonic acid, or the resulting depletion of carbonate ion bioavailability. Yes, carbonic acid can be found at ANY elevation in sea water. One of the denialist tropes I saw at Facebook was to point out those areas of the sea where upwelling of deep water brings high concentrations of dissolved CO2 and carbonic acid up to the surface. In those places, natural selection has favored calcareous plankton which form their CaCO3 shells using BICARBONATE ION, HCO3-, rather than carbonate ion, CO3(2-) as raw material for shell formation. They thrive in the "acidified" sea. They prove that ocean acidification from higher CO2 in the atmosphere is actually BENEFICIAL to marine organisms. IBdaMann and his second rate sidekick could never FIND such information to use as ammunition for "debate". So, they just make shit up instead. IBdaMann wrote: |
| 18-08-2026 18:57 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM wrote: I don't blame him. Science does not use consensus. Science is not a 'peer review process'. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Science does not use consensus. There is no voting bloc in science. Climate is not a science. Science is not a journal, magazine, or paper. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a 'review process'. Im a BM wrote: It does make sense. The Democrat party is a conspiracy. Yes...they are nuts. IBdaMann is not a Democrat. Im a BM wrote: You are describing yourself, Robert. Yes, people like you have been banned from here before. Branner probably only tolerates it because of low traffic here. Im a BM wrote: Not everyone has left, Robert, despite your spamming. Im a BM wrote: You are describing yourself again. Im a BM wrote: And you still continue to do so. Im a BM wrote: Still trying to deny that water can evaporate, I see. Carbonate is not a chemical. Im a BM wrote: Carbonic acid is generally found near the surface. Im a BM wrote: No upwelling of CO2 except in very localized sites. No upwelling of carbonic acid. Im a BM wrote: What 'natural selection'?? Bicarbonate is not a chemical. HCO3- is not a chemical. CO3(2-) is not a chemical. You cannot acidify an alkaline. Carbonate is not a chemical. CO2 is not an acid. The ocean is not the atmosphere. Im a BM wrote: Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself. There is no debate here. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 24-08-2026 23:57 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
I predict that Into the Night will very soon spam across nearly every thread on the home page. I also predict that he won't put more than 30 seconds of thought into any of his answers. In the space of five or ten minutes, he'll put of five or ten meaningless posts. "Science is not a refrigerator", "Communism is not a chemical'' "illiterate is not a scientifically" "Some random word is not some other random word from the same paragraph" "Just believe me without any credible references because I'm a CHEMIST!"Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: |
| 25-08-2026 04:18 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM wrote: Inversion fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Whining gets you nowhere, Robert. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 27-08-2026 15:38 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
Another recent paper which cites "sealover": Ann Y. Polyakov, et al. 2026. Spatiotemporal differences in salmon nutrient inputs restructure functional and taxonomic fungal communities in riparian systems. (Still a preprint from bioRxiv) Not too long ago it was discovered that in at least some forested water catchments, the largest source of exogenous bioavailable nitrogen entering the system is via salmon. They accumulate marine nitrogen in their bodies (mainly as protein) and then transport it upland and upstream to terrestrial ecosystems. This article points out, among other things, that the kind of fungi that are best adapted to exploit salmon nitrogen deposited in the soil as bear poop, etc., are not the same as the fungi that dominate salmon-free, forested water catchments They cite my work as identifying the contrasting ecosystem dynamics, where mycorrhizal fungi associated with tree roots dominate, and they monopolize the very limited nitrogen supply. Eventually, I'll read all the newest articles citing my work for a more complete... ------------------- August 3, 2026 update Thread-topic-relevant papers that cite "sealover" pubs. Came out 13 days ago: JA Ceja-Navarro, et al. 2026. Ecosystems retrogression enhances cross-domain microbial stability and increases the genetic potential for nutrient cycling. mLife 2026 doi.org/10.1002/mlf2.70087 This paper actually did research on the Ecological Staircase and pygmy forest, which Hans Jenny loved and encouraged me to investigate. Big picture: Ecosystems with sufficient water and soil nutrient availability form "mull" type humus that readily decomposes and gets incorporated into the mineral soil by burrowing organisms. Ecosystems with sufficient water but low soil nutrient availability form "mor" type humus, with unincorporated litter accumulating on the soil surface and distinct stratification of separate soil layers. This new paper gets into the "cross-domain" (fungi versus bacteria in different KINGDOMS of living things) phenomenon observed. Nutrient poor soils are dominated by fungi rather than bacteria, with mycorrhizal fungi accounting for most of the fungal biomass. Nutrient rich soils are dominated by bacteria with rapid turnover of nitrogen, phosphorus, etc. via bacterial decomposition. Came out 17 days ago: SO Afriyie. 2026. Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on microbial communities linked to carbon cycling in mangrove sediments. It's too soon for me to get the actual paper to find out why they cited me. But notice that word "mangrove" up in there. Just BEGGING to be ridiculed! Go for it, you scientifically-illiterate TROLLS! Aren't mangroves worthy of ridicule? July 17, 2026 Newest paper to cite sealover's dissolved organic nitrogen assay method, came out three weeks ago. Xiao Wei, et al. 2026. Adaptive microbial life-history strategies mediate soil nitrogen cycling across cropping systems. Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment. Volume 411, 1 November 2026, 110608 I need to read it, as well as the newest paper by Fubara et al (2026) to have more to say about how it is relevant to the thread topic. This brand new paper deserves more attention after I get a chance to read it. This came out 7 days ago, on the 4th of July, 2026. Maybe it was "magic". B.A. Fubara, et al. 2026. A review on bioactive compounds mitigating climate change. Discover Chemistry(2026) 3:385 It cites my 1995 paper in Nature. "condensed tannins reduce enteric methane by 15-30% and soil N2O by 30-70%" That is just from one sentence of the abstract. Tannins reduce cow gas (CH4) and soil N2O emissions. This paper deserves more discussion in this thread, as it is very much on topic. |
| 27-08-2026 18:00 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
sealover wrote: You are claiming a paper cites 'sealover'?? Hilarious! sealover wrote: A forest is not a pond or lake. There is no such thing as 'exogenous bioavailable nitrogen'. Nitrogen is not a fish. NItrogen is not a marine. Ecosystem is a meaningless buzzword. sealover wrote: A forest is not a pond or lake. Nitrogen is not a fish. Nitrogen is not bear poop. Nitrogen is not a fungus. sealover wrote: Magick Words (contrasting ecosystem dynamics, mycorrhizal, dominate, monopolize, very limited, supply): Buzzword fallacies. Nitrogen is not a supply. Nitrogen is not 'very limited' sealover wrote: Magick Words (ecosystem, sufficient water, soil nutrient availability, burrowing organism, mineral soil, unincorporated litter, stratification): Buzzword fallacies. All soil is mineral. Nitrogen is not humus. Nitrogen is not an organism. Nitrogen is not a mineral. sealover wrote: Magick Words (cross=domain fungi, bacteria, kingdom, phenomenon, mycorrhizal, biomass, rapid turnover, decomposition): Buzzword fallacies. Nitrogen is not a kingdom. Nitrogen is not a fungus. Nitrogen is not a bacterium. Nitrogen is not a domain. sealover wrote: Why would a mangrove be worthy of ridicule, Robert? You can't blame your illiteracy on anyone else. Inversion fallacy. You can't blame your trolling on anyone else. Inversion fallacy. sealover wrote: Nitrogen is not organic. sealover wrote: Tannins is not a chemical. Enteric methane is not a chemical. Cows are not gas. A cow is not methane. Soil is not laughing gas. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 27-08-2026 18:10 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
Nitrogen is not a lot of things! Into the Night has blessed this thread again with his scientific genius! Fifteen different sentences all begin with "Nitrogen is not..." Into the Night must be some kind of nitrogen chemistry expert! And I learned so many new things from his post. "Nitrogen is not a fish." WOW! Who knew? Thank you, Into the Night, for adding this valuable knowledge to my thread! I'm sure the outside viewers will appreciate it. So, it turns out that nitrogen is NOT a fish. You learn something new every day! Into the Night wrote:sealover wrote: |
| 27-08-2026 18:19 | |
| IBdaMann (15424) |
Im a BM wrote: Nitrogen is not a lot of things! Only the bioindifferent nitrogen. Im a BM wrote: Into the Night must be some kind of nitrogen chemistry expert! Into the Night's expertise only covers the plain, vanilla nitrogen. He can't match your biogeoknowledge of inorganic bioavailable organics. Im a BM wrote: And I learned so many new things from his post. "Nitrogen is not a fish." You have learned many things for the first time on Climate-Debate. |
| 27-08-2026 21:26 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: Nitrogen is not a lot of things! What time is it? It's time for a SHOWDOWN! IBdaMann, I challenge you to a duel for the position of dominant troll here. You had a good run, but your time is done! I know you can't fight without backup, so can have your pathetic little sidekick to assist you to the best of his very limited ability. It must frustrate you that he's the best you've got, because he's the only one who didn't ditch you. Me, I'll have my alter ego Google for my sidekick. This will leave a citable trail for any assertions. Me and Google can kick the shit out of you and Into the Night ANY time, any day. I'll give you some time to ponder the consequences of being dethroned. You could LOSE all THIS! There could be a NEW dominant troll at climate-debate.com who gets to order people to "Define your terms!" Oh, yeah! Then me and Google are gonna make you punks define YOUR terms. We could start with basics, like "pH", "chemical", "buffering", or "organic carbon". You punks haven't got a chance! You'll get to define the terms of your downfall and banishment. |
| 28-08-2026 08:37 | |
| IBdaMann (15424) |
Im a BM wrote: It's time for a SHOWDOWN! IBdaMann, I challenge you to a duel for the position of dominant troll here. You won the championship belt in a first round knockout spamming spree that killed Climate-Debate.com. Since then, I've been reserching how I might be able to get another shot at the title. Im a BM wrote: I know you can't fight without backup, No knowledge can pierce your scientific illiteracy, and no honesty can compel you to speak the truth. You are a super-troll with magickal superpowers. Since no one here is trollish enough to defeat you, no one even has the backbone to demand that you be banned, or to demand censorship powers. You cannot be defeated. |
| 28-08-2026 17:41 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
Another recent paper which cites "sealover": Ann Y. Polyakov, et al. 2026. Spatiotemporal differences in salmon nutrient inputs restructure functional and taxonomic fungal communities in riparian systems. (Still a preprint from bioRxiv) Not too long ago it was discovered that in at least some forested water catchments, the largest source of exogenous bioavailable nitrogen entering the system is via salmon. They accumulate marine nitrogen in their bodies (mainly as protein) and then transport it upland and upstream to terrestrial ecosystems. This article points out, among other things, that the kind of fungi that are best adapted to exploit salmon nitrogen deposited in the soil as bear poop, etc., are not the same as the fungi that dominate salmon-free, forested water catchments They cite my work as identifying the contrasting ecosystem dynamics, where mycorrhizal fungi associated with tree roots dominate, and they monopolize the very limited nitrogen supply. Eventually, I'll read all the newest articles citing my work for a more complete... ------------------- August 3, 2026 update Thread-topic-relevant papers that cite "sealover" pubs. Came out 13 days ago: JA Ceja-Navarro, et al. 2026. Ecosystems retrogression enhances cross-domain microbial stability and increases the genetic potential for nutrient cycling. mLife 2026 doi.org/10.1002/mlf2.70087 This paper actually did research on the Ecological Staircase and pygmy forest, which Hans Jenny loved and encouraged me to investigate. Big picture: Ecosystems with sufficient water and soil nutrient availability form "mull" type humus that readily decomposes and gets incorporated into the mineral soil by burrowing organisms. Ecosystems with sufficient water but low soil nutrient availability form "mor" type humus, with unincorporated litter accumulating on the soil surface and distinct stratification of separate soil layers. This new paper gets into the "cross-domain" (fungi versus bacteria in different KINGDOMS of living things) phenomenon observed. Nutrient poor soils are dominated by fungi rather than bacteria, with mycorrhizal fungi accounting for most of the fungal biomass. Nutrient rich soils are dominated by bacteria with rapid turnover of nitrogen, phosphorus, etc. via bacterial decomposition. Came out 17 days ago: SO Afriyie. 2026. Influence of elevated carbon dioxide (eCO2) on microbial communities linked to carbon cycling in mangrove sediments. It's too soon for me to get the actual paper to find out why they cited me. But notice that word "mangrove" up in there. Just BEGGING to be ridiculed! Go for it, you scientifically-illiterate TROLLS! Aren't mangroves worthy of ridicule? July 17, 2026 Newest paper to cite sealover's dissolved organic nitrogen assay method, came out three weeks ago. Xiao Wei, et al. 2026. Adaptive microbial life-history strategies mediate soil nitrogen cycling across cropping systems. Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment. Volume 411, 1 November 2026, 110608 I need to read it, as well as the newest paper by Fubara et al (2026) to have more to say about how it is relevant to the thread topic. This brand new paper deserves more attention after I get a chance to read it. This came out 7 days ago, on the 4th of July, 2026. Maybe it was "magic". B.A. Fubara, et al. 2026. A review on bioactive compounds mitigating climate change. Discover Chemistry(2026) 3:385 It cites my 1995 paper in Nature. "condensed tannins reduce enteric methane by 15-30% and soil N2O by 30-70%" That is just from one sentence of the abstract. Tannins reduce cow gas (CH4) and soil N2O emissions. This paper deserves more discussion in this thread, as it is very much on topic. |
| 28-08-2026 20:02 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Stop spamming. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 28-08-2026 20:58 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
Into the Night wrote:Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Into the Night, your scientific skills are on display again! Applying the Scientific Method to the data available here, you concluded that "Patricio" isn't a real, independent human being. Your reputation as a poster at Usenet included constant false accusations that some other poster was really an AI bot and not a real, independent human being. Your reputation, as Google will reveal to anyone who seeks to learn more about the history of the scientifically-illiterate troll who calls himself "Into the Night" at internet climate discussion sites, is for "shutting down" discussions with "relentless semantic nitpicking and rejection of scientific definitions", "Redefining Science", and "Redefining chemicals". Maybe you are just being a troll and trying to provoke a reaction with the ABSURD assertion that Patricio is not an actual, independent human being and NOT my "sock". Doing so even though you know it's bullshit, just to piss off... But given the other stupid shit you post, I suspect that you are actually STUPID and DELUSIONAL enough to believe the stupid false accusations you make. |
| 28-08-2026 22:00 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Thank you. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Science is not a method. Science is not data. Science is not your socks accounts. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: I don't use Usenet. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: You are not Google. You cannot become Google. You cannot blame your trolling on anybody else. You deny science. You still don't know what a chemical is. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: You cannot blame your trolling on anybody else, Robert. Your sock accounts are your problem. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio wrote: Denying your sock accounts does not make them just go away, Robert. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 30-08-2026 06:24 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
"Lignin is a carbohydrate." - Into the Night Nope. Into the Night wrote:sealover wrote: |
| 14-09-2026 04:30 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
Newest related paper to cite sealover! September 13, 2026 update, paper came out five days ago. A.Y. Polyakov, et al including Kristina A. Vogt and Eric A. Hobbie! 2026. Ectomycorrhizal fungi as a reservoir of salmon-derived nitrogen in riparian forests. (I need to get complete citation) Kristina Vogt co authored a paper with Randy Dahlgren, Zengshou Yu, and I, published in Nature in 1995. Eric Hobbie... Well, here's what Google says... Google inquiry: "E.A. Hobbie and R.R. Northup" Google AI say: "E.A. Hobbie (Eric A. Hobbie) and R.R. Northup (Robert R. Northup) are two highly influential researchers in the fields of ecosystem ecology, biogeochemistry, and soil science. While they are distinct scientists who approach ecosystems from slightly different angles, their combined literature fundamentally shaped modern understanding of how plants and fungi actively control nitrogen cycling and carbon sequestration." In this newest paper, they use nitrogen stable isotope analysis to conclude that salmon-derived nitrogen is being taken up by ectomycorrhizal fungi associated with forest trees. Among other findings, about 28% of the nitrogen in the riparian forest fungal sporocarps came from salmon. ___________________________________________________ Nutrient cycling dynamics of natural ecosystems can be mimicked in cropping systems to maximize carbon sequestration into soil organic matter, and minimize emissions of nitrous oxide. Tannin (aka polyphenol) chemical ecology provides insights into biogeochemical mechanisms that regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling. The convergent evolution of tannin-rich plant communities has occurred on highly-infertile soils throughout the world. To acquire and conserve nitrogen, these plants allocate much of their organic carbon below ground to support symbiotic mycorrhizal fungi associated with their roots. Tannins in plant litter form recalcitrant complexes with protein, immobilizing this organic form of nitrogen and preventing mineralization. Mycorrhizal fungi produce enzymes that mobilize nitrogen from protein-tannin complexes, which is transferred directly to the root in organic nitrogen form. This short circuiting of the mineralization step in the nitrogen cycle prevents emission of nitrous oxide to the atmosphere, and prevents export of nitrate to groundwater or surface water. Allocation of photosynthate below ground to support mycorrhizal fungi also enhances sequestration of carbon into soil organic matter. Tannins inhibit the oxidation of ammonium in soil to nitrate by nitrifying bacteria. This minimizes nitrous oxide emission as a by product of microbial nitrate reduction. Nitrogen release from tannin-rich litter is predominantly in the form of dissolved organic nitrogen rather than ammonium or nitrate. Dissolved organic nitrogen adsorbs to soil organic matter, minimizing leaching loss of nitrogen and retaining it in slow release form. Tannins inhibit the decomposition of organic matter to substantially increase its mean residence in or above the soil. In the most extreme cases, equatorial rainforests form massive litter layers over acid white sand soils that are virtually devoid of nutrients or roots. One- or two-meters thick layers of litter in various stages of decomposition can accumulate above the mineral soil surface. This is despite warm, wet, well drained conditions that favor rapid decomposition. Exceptionally high tannin content in the vegetation of these forests enables them to create an enduring layer of organic matter above the soil surface, where virtually all the root growth and nutrient cycling occurs with high efficiency, and negligible losses. Tannins themselves are the dominant substrate that transforms into soil humic acids. Humic acids enhance soil fertility in many ways, and their mean residence time in soil can be many centuries long. Tannins can comprise more than half the dry weight in foliage of tannin-rich species, and much of this represents sequestered carbon that will remain for a long time as stable soil organic matter. We may not want to create thick litter layers above the topsoil in all our croplands. But polyphenol biogeochemistry can still be applied to increase carbon sequestration and decrease nitrous oxide emission. For example, tannin-rich organic matter can be combined with more rapidly decomposable crop residues or manure to slow decomposition and immobilize nitrogen into slowly mineralized organic form, as compost. Crop-mycorrhizal associations could be facilitated to sequester carbon and access recalcitrant soil nitrogen. Most relevant posts of this thread are compiled in sequence, beginning about 1/3 way down PAGE 22 First topic post of thread: "Carbon Sequestration and Allelopathy in Rain Forest Fern Thickets" |
| 14-09-2026 17:51 | |
| IBdaMann (15424) |
sealover wrote: Let's talk about this. This paper comes as close to saying absolutely nothing as humanly possible while using the minimal number of words to count as a "paper." If I may phrase the thesis statement of the paper: "There is an unspecified probability inferred from δ15N voodoo that roughly 28% of the nitrogen contained in Ectomycorrhizal fungi pertains to the influence of the riparian forest's salmon." Let me know if I am mistaken. I believe your paper is cited only as legitimization for concluding that "organic" nitrogen is at play, and not exclusively "inorganic" nitrogen. Am I correct? |
| 14-09-2026 19:22 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Science is not a paper. You paper says nothing for meaningless buzzwords, just like you do here. A tree is not a fish. You are not Google. You cannot become Google. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Trying to dox yourself again, I see. There is no such thing as 'ecosystem ecology'. There is no such thing as biogeochemistry. Soil is not a science. You deny science. Ecosystem is not a word. Science is not literature. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Carbon is not a sequester. [b]Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Nitrogen is not a fish. Nitrogen is not a fungus. A fish is not a fungus. A tree is not a fish. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Ecosystem is not a word. There is no such thing as 'nutrient cycling dynamics'. Carbon is not a sequester. Carbon is not soil. Carbon is not nitrogen. Tannin is not a chemical. Polyphenol is not a chemical. Ecology is not a chemical. There is no such thing as biogeochemical mechanism. Carbon is not regulated. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not a plant. Carbon is not organic. There is no such thing as 'recalitrant complex'. Protein is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not a mineral. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Nitrate is not a chemical. The ground is the surface. Photosynthate is not a chemical. Carbon is not a sequester. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Ammonium is not a chemical. Nitrate is not a chemical. Nitrifying is not a bacterium. You cannot reduce nitrate. Nitrogen is not tannin. Nitrogen is nor organic. Nitrogen is not a leach. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Sand is not an acid. Decomposition is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Tannin is not a substrate. Humic is not a chemical. Carbon is not a sequester. Carbon is not organic. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGooglewrote: There is no such thing as polyphenol biogeochemistry. Carbon is not a sequester. Tannin is not a chemical. Tannin is not a mineral. Minerals are not organic. There is no such thing as 'recalcitrant soil nitrogen'. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 14-09-2026 19:38 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
IBdaMann wrote:sealover wrote: IBdaMann, you are not correct. So, what else is new? I ENCOURAGE ALL THE KIDS TO TRY THIS AT HOME! Google the search term: "Why is the internet persona known as 'IBdaMann' widely viewed as a 'troll' at climate discussion websites?" Google has a long and detailed reply. "The internet persona 'IBdaMann' is widely viewed as a 'troll' across various climate discussion platforms, political forums, and message boards due to a highly recognizable pattern of aggressive contrarianism, repetitive semantics, and bad-faith debating tactics. Rather than engaging in constructive scientific debate, the user employs specific online behaviors designed to disrupt conversations and exhaust other participants. The core reasons for this reputation include: 1. Pedantic Semantics and Word Games A signature tactic of IBdaMann is derailing discussions by obsessing over terminology rather than addressing empirical scientific evidence. shifting the focus from climate data to endless semantic arguments.. (too much to copy) 2. Standard Climate Denial Tropes IBdaMann routinely posts well-worn climate change denial myths. ..mainstream climate science is completely fraudulent, misinterpreting basic physics.. they present these debunked talking points as absolute facts. ..they are viewed as a bad-faith actor. 3. 'Sealioning' and Burden Shifting ..relies on 'sealioning', a trolling technique.. with relentless, superficially polite requests for evidence or answers to basic questions.. IBdaMann will reject the sources out of hand, move the goalposts, or demand that opponents 'prove' an impossible negative, ensuring that the debate can never reach a resolution. 4. Personal Attacks and Deflection When cornered with undeniable data or clear logic, the persona frequently shifts from the topic to personal insults, condescension, or accusing opponents of being 'brainwashed' or uneducated. This combative, anti-intellectual posture is a hallmark of internet trolling intended to provoke emotional reactions rather than foster an actual dialogue." |
| 15-09-2026 23:15 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: He is completely correct here. Argument of the Stone fallacy. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Bulferism fallacy. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: You are not Google. You cannot become Google. You cannot blame your trolling on IBdaMann or anybody else, Robert. Inversion fallacy. It is YOU playing word games and using meaningless buzzwords. Inversion fallacy, It is YOU denying theories of science. Inversion fallacy. [b]Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Science is not a debate. You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Your buzzwords and gibber babble are not terminology, Robert. Science is not observations. Science is not data. Climate is not science. Climate has no data. Random numbers are not data. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Climate cannot change. Climate is not science. Science is not 'mainstream' or any other 'stream'. It is YOU denying theories of science. Inversion fallacy. Go learn what 'fact' means. There is no such thing as an 'absolute fact'. You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Inversion fallacy. It is YOU attempting a burden fallacy. It is YOU that has failed to answer numerous questions that have been put to you. Inversion fallacy. Void reference fallacy. Fallacy fallacy. No goalposts. It is YOU committing an attempted negative proof fallacy. Inversion fallacy. There is no debate. Only conversations. Redefinition fallacy. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Your entire post is a personal attack. Inversion fallacy. It is YOU throwing insults. Inversion fallacy. It is YOU claiming others are uneducated. Inversion fallacy. You cannot blame your trolling, your buzzwords, or your gibber babble on anyone else, Robert. You cannot blame ANY of your problems on anybody else. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 17-09-2026 15:57 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
IBdaMann wrote:sealover wrote: IBdaMann, you are not correct. So, what else is new? I ENCOURAGE ALL THE KIDS TO TRY THIS AT HOME! Google the search term: "Why is the internet persona known as 'IBdaMann' widely viewed as a 'troll' at climate discussion websites?" Google has a long and detailed reply. "The internet persona 'IBdaMann' is widely viewed as a 'troll' across various climate discussion platforms, political forums, and message boards due to a highly recognizable pattern of aggressive contrarianism, repetitive semantics, and bad-faith debating tactics. Rather than engaging in constructive scientific debate, the user employs specific online behaviors designed to disrupt conversations and exhaust other participants. The core reasons for this reputation include: 1. Pedantic Semantics and Word Games A signature tactic of IBdaMann is derailing discussions by obsessing over terminology rather than addressing empirical scientific evidence. shifting the focus from climate data to endless semantic arguments.. (too much to copy) 2. Standard Climate Denial Tropes IBdaMann routinely posts well-worn climate change denial myths. ..mainstream climate science is completely fraudulent, misinterpreting basic physics.. they present these debunked talking points as absolute facts. ..they are viewed as a bad-faith actor. 3. 'Sealioning' and Burden Shifting ..relies on 'sealioning', a trolling technique.. with relentless, superficially polite requests for evidence or answers to basic questions.. IBdaMann will reject the sources out of hand, move the goalposts, or demand that opponents 'prove' an impossible negative, ensuring that the debate can never reach a resolution. 4. Personal Attacks and Deflection When cornered with undeniable data or clear logic, the persona frequently shifts from the topic to personal insults, condescension, or accusing opponents of being 'brainwashed' or uneducated. This combative, anti-intellectual posture is a hallmark of internet trolling intended to provoke emotional reactions rather than foster an actual dialogue." |
| 17-09-2026 15:58 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
Newest related paper to cite sealover! September 13, 2026 update, paper came out five days ago. A.Y. Polyakov, et al including Kristina A. Vogt and Eric A. Hobbie! 2026. Ectomycorrhizal fungi as a reservoir of salmon-derived nitrogen in riparian forests. (I need to get complete citation) Kristina Vogt co authored a paper with Randy Dahlgren, Zengshou Yu, and I, published in Nature in 1995. Eric Hobbie... Well, here's what Google says... Google inquiry: "E.A. Hobbie and R.R. Northup" Google AI say: "E.A. Hobbie (Eric A. Hobbie) and R.R. Northup (Robert R. Northup) are two highly influential researchers in the fields of ecosystem ecology, biogeochemistry, and soil science. While they are distinct scientists who approach ecosystems from slightly different angles, their combined literature fundamentally shaped modern understanding of how plants and fungi actively control nitrogen cycling and carbon sequestration." In this newest paper, they use nitrogen stable isotope analysis to conclude that salmon-derived nitrogen is being taken up by ectomycorrhizal fungi associated with forest trees. Among other findings, about 28% of the nitrogen in the riparian forest fungal sporocarps came from salmon. ___________________________________________________ Nutrient cycling dynamics of natural ecosystems can be mimicked in cropping systems to maximize carbon sequestration into soil organic matter, and minimize emissions of nitrous oxide. Tannin (aka polyphenol) chemical ecology provides insights into biogeochemical mechanisms that regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling. The convergent evolution of tannin-rich plant communities has occurred on highly-infertile soils throughout the world. To acquire and conserve nitrogen, these plants allocate much of their organic carbon below ground to support symbiotic mycorrhizal fungi associated with their roots. Tannins in plant litter form recalcitrant complexes with protein, immobilizing this organic form of nitrogen and preventing mineralization. Mycorrhizal fungi produce enzymes that mobilize nitrogen from protein-tannin complexes, which is transferred directly to the root in organic nitrogen form. This short circuiting of the mineralization step in the nitrogen cycle prevents emission of nitrous oxide to the atmosphere, and prevents export of nitrate to groundwater or surface water. Allocation of photosynthate below ground to support mycorrhizal fungi also enhances sequestration of carbon into soil organic matter. Tannins inhibit the oxidation of ammonium in soil to nitrate by nitrifying bacteria. This minimizes nitrous oxide emission as a by product of microbial nitrate reduction. Nitrogen release from tannin-rich litter is predominantly in the form of dissolved organic nitrogen rather than ammonium or nitrate. Dissolved organic nitrogen adsorbs to soil organic matter, minimizing leaching loss of nitrogen and retaining it in slow release form. Tannins inhibit the decomposition of organic matter to substantially increase its mean residence in or above the soil. In the most extreme cases, equatorial rainforests form massive litter layers over acid white sand soils that are virtually devoid of nutrients or roots. One- or two-meters thick layers of litter in various stages of decomposition can accumulate above the mineral soil surface. This is despite warm, wet, well drained conditions that favor rapid decomposition. Exceptionally high tannin content in the vegetation of these forests enables them to create an enduring layer of organic matter above the soil surface, where virtually all the root growth and nutrient cycling occurs with high efficiency, and negligible losses. Tannins themselves are the dominant substrate that transforms into soil humic acids. Humic acids enhance soil fertility in many ways, and their mean residence time in soil can be many centuries long. Tannins can comprise more than half the dry weight in foliage of tannin-rich species, and much of this represents sequestered carbon that will remain for a long time as stable soil organic matter. We may not want to create thick litter layers above the topsoil in all our croplands. But polyphenol biogeochemistry can still be applied to increase carbon sequestration and decrease nitrous oxide emission. For example, tannin-rich organic matter can be combined with more rapidly decomposable crop residues or manure to slow decomposition and immobilize nitrogen into slowly mineralized organic form, as compost. Crop-mycorrhizal associations could be facilitated to sequester carbon and access recalcitrant soil nitrogen. Most relevant posts of this thread are compiled in sequence, beginning about 1/3 way down PAGE 22 First topic post of thread: "Carbon Sequestration and Allelopathy in Rain Forest Fern Thickets" |
| 17-09-2026 21:10 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: You are not Google. You cannot become Google. You can't blame your trolling,spamming or whining on IBdaMann or anybody else. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 17-09-2026 21:30 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Ecosystem is not a word. Cropping is not a system. Carbon is not a sequester. Carbon is not organic. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. Tannin is not a chemical. Polyphenol is not a chemical. There is no such thing as 'chemical ecology'. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemical mechanism'. Carbon is not regulated. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Carbon is not organic. Carbon is not a fungus. There is no such thing as 'recalcitrant complexes'. Protein-tannin is not a chemical. Protein-tannin is not a complex. Nitrogen is not organic. Nitrogen is not a cycle. Nitrogen is not carbon. Nitrate is not a chemical. Photosynthate is not achemical. Carbon is not dirt. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Ammonium is not a chemical. Nitrate is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not a bacterium. Nitrate is not a bacterium. Nitrate cannot reduced. Nitrogen is not organic. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Tannin is not dirt. Sand is not an acid. Organic is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: Tannin is not a chemical. Tannin is not a substrate. Humic is not a chemical. Humic is not dirt. Carbon is not a sequester. Organic is not a chemical. Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: There is no such thing as 'polyphenol biogeochemistry'. Carbon is not a sequester. Carbon is not nitrous oxide. Tannin is not a chemical. Organic is not chemical. Nitrogen cannot be immobilized. Mineralized organic is not a chemical. Crop-mycorrhizal is not a chemical. Nitrogen is not dirt. There is no such thing as 'raclcitrant nitrogen'. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 18-09-2026 00:06 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (4067) |
See, if Branner paid ANY attention to what goes on at his website... He would see this RETARDED post by Into the Night. In the context of ELEVEN YEARS and nearly 25,000 such RETARDED posts.. It is possible that in his own twisted mind, Into the Night is contributing something of value with all these very short "something is not something else" statements. maybe in his own pHucked-up perception, Into the Night has IMPROVED the quality of discussion here with eleven years of trolling. Does he believe this site is more popular and active now than when he arrived? Into the Night wrote:Im a BM and sealover and Patricio and FakeGoogle wrote: |
| 18-09-2026 03:38 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
Im a BM wrote: He does, Robert. Indeed, Branner has put together rather nice software for this site. If you want to blame me for Church of Global Warming dying on discussion forums I suppose I should be honored. That means enough people realize the science you routinely discard and the random numbers you use for 'data', they they've stopped believing in your religion; is entirely because of my work exposing your religion for what it is. Of course,I can't take credit for all of it. Others have contributed their bit as well to expose your religion. Besides, most Democrats are concentrating on the Church of Hate; and have largely ignored the Church of Global Warming for awhile. Heck, the Danish site is deader than the US site right now. Any attempt on various political forums where the subject comes up, it usually doesn't last long. You idiots have been pushing this crap since the 70's. Longer if you count the Church of Green where the Church of Global Warming stems from. You can only deny the history and science and mathematics so long before people began to wise up and realize that something smells in your religion. The coral reefs are still there and still just as beautiful. The arctic and antarctic ice is still there. The ocean hasn't flooded large areas of land. Indeed, it hasn't changed its level at all. The weather is still the weather, with sunny periods, rain, snow, blizzards, tornadoes, hurricanes and cyclones, lightning, and thunderstorms. The grass still grows, the trees put out leaves each spring, the winter still comes every year, gasoline cars are still the prevailing car on the road, farms still raise and harvest their crops, ranches still raise and harvest their cattle, pigs, goats, sheep, chickens, or whatever else they raise. The glaciers are still there. Weyerhaeuser and other similar farmers still plant and raise forests for their wood products. Paper mills still make paper. People still make and shoot fireworks and guns. Capitalism still occurs. And there is NOTHING you can do to stop it. You've cried 'wolf' so long few believe you anymore. So you come here with your religion, try to pretend to be a scientist, and think you can actually get away with it; but you found you have to face 2-3 scientists that actually know their shit. But your own narcissism prevents you from accepting any science presented to you and you continue to deny it, and push your religion. You think you can gibber-babble your way to convincing these 2-3 scientists here that you are one of them. It doesn't work that way. You follow the program for a Democrat: 1. Pronounce Doom and Gloom. 2. Blame Trump or conservatives for it. 3. Throw insults. 4. repeat until dead. Sure, you couch it in vast mounds of gibber-babble, but in the end it is just the same. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 19-09-2026 18:02 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
Newest related paper to cite sealover! September 13, 2026 update, paper came out five days ago. A.Y. Polyakov, et al including Kristina A. Vogt and Eric A. Hobbie! 2026. Ectomycorrhizal fungi as a reservoir of salmon-derived nitrogen in riparian forests. (I need to get complete citation) Kristina Vogt co authored a paper with Randy Dahlgren, Zengshou Yu, and I, published in Nature in 1995. Eric Hobbie... Well, here's what Google says... Google inquiry: "E.A. Hobbie and R.R. Northup" Google AI say: "E.A. Hobbie (Eric A. Hobbie) and R.R. Northup (Robert R. Northup) are two highly influential researchers in the fields of ecosystem ecology, biogeochemistry, and soil science. While they are distinct scientists who approach ecosystems from slightly different angles, their combined literature fundamentally shaped modern understanding of how plants and fungi actively control nitrogen cycling and carbon sequestration." In this newest paper, they use nitrogen stable isotope analysis to conclude that salmon-derived nitrogen is being taken up by ectomycorrhizal fungi associated with forest trees. Among other findings, about 28% of the nitrogen in the riparian forest fungal sporocarps came from salmon. ___________________________________________________ Nutrient cycling dynamics of natural ecosystems can be mimicked in cropping systems to maximize carbon sequestration into soil organic matter, and minimize emissions of nitrous oxide. Tannin (aka polyphenol) chemical ecology provides insights into biogeochemical mechanisms that regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling. The convergent evolution of tannin-rich plant communities has occurred on highly-infertile soils throughout the world. To acquire and conserve nitrogen, these plants allocate much of their organic carbon below ground to support symbiotic mycorrhizal fungi associated with their roots. Tannins in plant litter form recalcitrant complexes with protein, immobilizing this organic form of nitrogen and preventing mineralization. Mycorrhizal fungi produce enzymes that mobilize nitrogen from protein-tannin complexes, which is transferred directly to the root in organic nitrogen form. This short circuiting of the mineralization step in the nitrogen cycle prevents emission of nitrous oxide to the atmosphere, and prevents export of nitrate to groundwater or surface water. Allocation of photosynthate below ground to support mycorrhizal fungi also enhances sequestration of carbon into soil organic matter. Tannins inhibit the oxidation of ammonium in soil to nitrate by nitrifying bacteria. This minimizes nitrous oxide emission as a by product of microbial nitrate reduction. Nitrogen release from tannin-rich litter is predominantly in the form of dissolved organic nitrogen rather than ammonium or nitrate. Dissolved organic nitrogen adsorbs to soil organic matter, minimizing leaching loss of nitrogen and retaining it in slow release form. Tannins inhibit the decomposition of organic matter to substantially increase its mean residence in or above the soil. In the most extreme cases, equatorial rainforests form massive litter layers over acid white sand soils that are virtually devoid of nutrients or roots. One- or two-meters thick layers of litter in various stages of decomposition can accumulate above the mineral soil surface. This is despite warm, wet, well drained conditions that favor rapid decomposition. Exceptionally high tannin content in the vegetation of these forests enables them to create an enduring layer of organic matter above the soil surface, where virtually all the root growth and nutrient cycling occurs with high efficiency, and negligible losses. Tannins themselves are the dominant substrate that transforms into soil humic acids. Humic acids enhance soil fertility in many ways, and their mean residence time in soil can be many centuries long. Tannins can comprise more than half the dry weight in foliage of tannin-rich species, and much of this represents sequestered carbon that will remain for a long time as stable soil organic matter. We may not want to create thick litter layers above the topsoil in all our croplands. But polyphenol biogeochemistry can still be applied to increase carbon sequestration and decrease nitrous oxide emission. For example, tannin-rich organic matter can be combined with more rapidly decomposable crop residues or manure to slow decomposition and immobilize nitrogen into slowly mineralized organic form, as compost. Crop-mycorrhizal associations could be facilitated to sequester carbon and access recalcitrant soil nitrogen. Most relevant posts of this thread are compiled in sequence, beginning about 1/3 way down PAGE 22 First topic post of thread: "Carbon Sequestration and Allelopathy in Rain Forest Fern Thickets" |
| 20-09-2026 00:35 | |
| Into the Night (24543) |
sealover wrote: Stop spamming. RAAA. Repetition fallacy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 29-09-2026 17:32 | |
| sealover★★★★★ (2176) |
<-------- Click on "sealover" (by avatar to the left) to open profile page. Click on "View all", after "Number of posts:", near middle of profile page to access all sealover posts. September 29 update: Newest paper to cite sealover. Hongrong Guo, et al. 2026. Soil fauna mediate stage-dependent, home-field advantage: Roles of decomposer ability and litter quality. Geoderma (10.1016/j.geoderma.2026.118061) So far, I've only seen the abstract. It reminded me of a field trip I took with Mary Firestone in 1986. At her field site, different size mesh had been installed at multiple locations to control the size of critters that could get in or out of decomposing litter. A home garden example would be what happens if you had a screen in the soil with mesh too small for earthworms to get in or out. Without the worms chewing it up, digesting, and defecating it out as a first step, it takes significantly longer for nutrient elements such as nitrogen and phosphorus in decomposing organic matter to become available to the plants. It is the "litter quality" thing that motivated them to cite ME in particular. Condensed tannins are a major play in "litter quality". I'll have to read the whole paper when I get my hands on it. It just came out a few days ago. Newest related paper to cite sealover! September 13, 2026 update, paper came out five days ago. A.Y. Polyakov, et al including Kristina A. Vogt and Eric A. Hobbie! 2026. Ectomycorrhizal fungi as a reservoir of salmon-derived nitrogen in riparian forests. (I need to get complete citation) Kristina Vogt co authored a paper with Randy Dahlgren, Zengshou Yu, and I, published in Nature in 1995. Eric Hobbie... Well, here's what Google says... Google inquiry: "E.A. Hobbie and R.R. Northup" Google AI say: "E.A. Hobbie (Eric A. Hobbie) and R.R. Northup (Robert R. Northup) are two highly influential researchers in the fields of ecosystem ecology, biogeochemistry, and soil science. While they are distinct scientists who approach ecosystems from slightly different angles, their combined literature fundamentally shaped modern understanding of how plants and fungi actively control nitrogen cycling and carbon sequestration." In this newest paper, they use nitrogen stable isotope analysis to conclude that salmon-derived nitrogen is being taken up by ectomycorrhizal fungi associated with forest trees. Among other findings, about 28% of the nitrogen in the riparian forest fungal sporocarps came from salmon. ___________________________________________________ Nutrient cycling dynamics of natural ecosystems can be mimicked in cropping systems to maximize carbon sequestration into soil organic matter, and minimize emissions of nitrous oxide. Tannin (aka polyphenol) chemical ecology provides insights into biogeochemical mechanisms that regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling. The convergent evolution of tannin-rich plant communities has occurred on highly-infertile soils throughout the world. To acquire and conserve nitrogen, these plants allocate much of their organic carbon below ground to support symbiotic mycorrhizal fungi associated with their roots. Tannins in plant litter form recalcitrant complexes with protein, immobilizing this organic form of nitrogen and preventing mineralization. Mycorrhizal fungi produce enzymes that mobilize nitrogen from protein-tannin complexes, which is transferred directly to the root in organic nitrogen form. This short circuiting of the mineralization step in the nitrogen cycle prevents emission of nitrous oxide to the atmosphere, and prevents export of nitrate to groundwater or surface water. Allocation of photosynthate below ground to support mycorrhizal fungi also enhances sequestration of carbon into soil organic matter. Tannins inhibit the oxidation of ammonium in soil to nitrate by nitrifying bacteria. This minimizes nitrous oxide emission as a by product of microbial nitrate reduction. Nitrogen release from tannin-rich litter is predominantly in the form of dissolved organic nitrogen rather than ammonium or nitrate. Dissolved organic nitrogen adsorbs to soil organic matter, minimizing leaching loss of nitrogen and retaining it in slow release form. Tannins inhibit the decomposition of organic matter to substantially increase its mean residence in or above the soil. In the most extreme cases, equatorial rainforests form massive litter layers over acid white sand soils that are virtually devoid of nutrients or roots. One- or two-meters thick layers of litter in various stages of decomposition can accumulate above the mineral soil surface. This is despite warm, wet, well drained conditions that favor rapid decomposition. Exceptionally high tannin content in the vegetation of these forests enables them to create an enduring layer of organic matter above the soil surface, where virtually all the root growth and nutrient cycling occurs with high efficiency, and negligible losses. Tannins themselves are the dominant substrate that transforms into soil humic acids. Humic acids enhance soil fertility in many ways, and their mean residence time in soil can be many centuries long. Tannins can comprise more than half the dry weight in foliage of tannin-rich species, and much of this represents sequestered carbon that will remain for a long time as stable soil organic matter. We may not want to create thick litter layers above the topsoil in all our croplands. But polyphenol biogeochemistry can still be applied to increase carbon sequestration and decrease nitrous oxide emission. For example, tannin-rich organic matter can be combined with more rapidly decomposable crop residues or manure to slow decomposition and immobilize nitrogen into slowly mineralized organic form, as compost. Crop-mycorrhizal associations could be facilitated to sequester carbon and access recalcitrant soil nitrogen. Most relevant posts of this thread are compiled in sequence, beginning about 1/3 way down PAGE 22 First topic post of thread: "Carbon Sequestration and Allelopathy in Rain Forest Fern Thickets" |
| 30-09-2026 11:09 | |
| IBdaMann (15424) |
sealover wrote:spam deleted You have reached one of Robert's spam zones. See the preceding post. |
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