Maximizing Carbon Sequestration in Terrestrial Agroecosystems

Im a BM wrote:
THIS is why they made you CAPTAIN of the debate team, the year your Alma Mater won the regional championship.


Tannin is a carbohydrate because there is no such thing as tannins? As the master controller of the English language, YOU know "tannin" cannot be plural? It's all hidden in your secret dictionary of NOT "buzzword" terms.

Well, I'm struck by the irony of it all.

In the real world, my published discoveries about "tannins", as POLYPHENOLS (which are NOT "carbohydrates") made me famous among actual scientists who are formally trained in the stuff.

At climate-debate.com, a tireless heckler won't stop insisting that "There is no such thing as tannins."

Apparently, my "illiteracy" is MY "problem"!

Into the Night wrote:

Im a BM wrote:
THIS is why they made you CAPTAIN of the debate team, the year your Alma Mater won the regional championship.


Tannin is a carbohydrate because there is no such thing as tannins? As the master controller of the English language, YOU know "tannin" cannot be plural? It's all hidden in your secret dictionary of NOT "buzzword" terms.

Well, I'm struck by the irony of it all.

In the real world, my published discoveries about "tannins", as POLYPHENOLS (which are NOT "carbohydrates") made me famous among actual scientists who are formally trained in the stuff.

At climate-debate.com, a tireless heckler won't stop insisting that "There is no such thing as tannins."

Apparently, my "illiteracy" is MY "problem"!

It is.

There are no debates here. Only conversations.

Science is not 'discoveries'. Science is not 'training'. Courtier's fallacy.

Im a BM wrote:
]Into the Night wrote:.

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No, lignin is NOT a carbohydrate.

Yes, plant cell walls DO contain lignin


Lignin is a complex polymer comprised primarily of aromatic phenols. It is a structural component found in the cell walls of woody plants. It can form strong complexes with carbohydrates and proteins

Ecologists have long been interested in what lignin does when it gets into the soil. The nitrogen bound in protein tannin complexes is difficult for microorganisms to mineralize, and this nitrogen cycles very slowly.

Ecologists also long believed that lignin was the primary source of humic acids in soil, responsible for producing stable organic matter with centuries long mean residence time.

My (1995) paper in Nature was the first to show that lignin wasn't necessarily the most important regulator to influence nitrogen cycling. Plenty of lignin research cited it, but the paper was only a few pages long. Minimal lignin discussion.

My (1998) paper in Biogeochemistry has a great more detail about lignin.

1998. Polyphenols as regulators of plant-litter-soil interactions...
Biogeochemistry. Volume 42 pages 189-220.

It has been cited in 456 different peer-reviewed scientific papers or textbooks.

31 pages long, it includes extensive discussion about lignin.

My most famous contribution to understanding lignin chemical ecology was to show the correlation between lignin content and nitrogen release from pine needles. There was none, whereas there was highly significant correlation with tannin content.

And it is highly relevant to the topic of this thread.

Im a BM wrote:
No, lignin is NOT a carbohydrate.

Yes, plant cell walls DO contain lignin

Im a BM wrote:
My (1995) paper in Nature

Im a BM wrote:
My (1998) paper in Biogeochemistry has a great more detail about lignin.

Im a BM wrote:
1998. Polyphenols as regulators of plant-litter-soil interactions...

Im a BM wrote:
It has been cited in 456 different peer-reviewed scientific papers or textbooks.

Im a BM wrote:
My most famous contribution to understanding lignin chemical ecology was to show the correlation between lignin content and nitrogen release from pine needles. There was none, whereas there was highly significant correlation with tannin content.