Maximizing Carbon Sequestration in Terrestrial Agroecosystems
| 09-12-2024 20:12 | |
Into the Night ★★★★★(22820) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Go learn English Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot 'crisis'. Go learn English. Im a BM wrote: Science isn't a paper. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Go learn English. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 09-01-2025 02:16 | |
| sealover★★★★☆ (1771) |
<---- Click on "sealover" (to the left of the arrow) It will open the "sealover" profile page. The "Last 10 posts:" shows ten biogeochemistry-related threads. Any of them can be opened with a click. January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22[/quote] |
| 13-01-2025 00:52 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 13-01-2025 10:36 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22820) |
Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't a flux. Nitrogen isn't a flux. Buzzword fallacies. Im a BM wrote: Quoting garbage doesn't make it anything else but garbage. Im a BM wrote: You deny and discard theories of science. You are no scientist. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Buzzword fallacies. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Caused by democrats. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Blame democrats. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Biogeochemistry does not exist. There is no such branch of science. Im a BM wrote: What water supplies?? Im a BM wrote: Climaet cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a 'scenario'. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: There is no such thing as a 'global environmental crisis'. Buzzword fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is already in the ground. Dig it up and use it as fuel. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is already in the ground. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Buzzword fallacies. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 13-01-2025 18:15 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
I keep begging Into the Night and IBdaMann to let us see THEIR published scientific papers, but they refuse to share any of their scientific secrets. I keep begging for just ONE NAME - a scientist, a textbook, a paper, just ONE NAME of a source they respect as "truly scientific". Maybe no such source exists. Well, it may not qualify as "science" according to the tenured resident trolls, but research papers keep getting published every day. Here are a couple. January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 13-01-2025 18:59 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22820) |
Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Science is not a secret. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a book, paper, or person. The theories of science you choose to ignore have already been given to you multiple times. You just choose to ignore them. RQAA. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Im a BM wrote: Repetition fallacy. Stop spamming. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 14-01-2025 18:29 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1622) |
Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Science is not a secret. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a book, paper, or person. The theories of science you choose to ignore have already been given to you multiple times. You just choose to ignore them. RQAA. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Im a BM wrote: Repetition fallacy. Stop spamming.[/quote] "pH cannot be less than or equal to zero." - Into the Night The CHEMISTRY CLOWN literally doesn't even know what pH IS. Any acid solution with [H+] greater than or equal to 1.0 N will have pH LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO ZERO. Because pH = -log[H+] And it is physically possible for an acid to be greater than or equal to 1.0 N. The 150 gallons of acid IBdaMann says will get diluted to pH 6.95 with a mere six billion liters of pure water - well, the ACID at 11.6 N has pH about -1, and the six billion liter mix reaches a dilute equilibrium pH of 5.96 ITN will just say "no" and hope that nobody notices he never said a thing that explained ANYTHING about chemistry. RQAA and stuff. |
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