Maximizing Carbon Sequestration in Terrestrial Agroecosystems
| 09-12-2024 20:12 | |
Into the Night ★★★★★(22991) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Go learn English Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot 'crisis'. Go learn English. Im a BM wrote: Science isn't a paper. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Go learn English. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 09-01-2025 02:16 | |
| sealover★★★★☆ (1778) |
<---- Click on "sealover" (to the left of the arrow) It will open the "sealover" profile page. The "Last 10 posts:" shows ten biogeochemistry-related threads. Any of them can be opened with a click. January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22[/quote] |
| 13-01-2025 00:52 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 13-01-2025 10:36 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't a flux. Nitrogen isn't a flux. Buzzword fallacies. Im a BM wrote: Quoting garbage doesn't make it anything else but garbage. Im a BM wrote: You deny and discard theories of science. You are no scientist. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemistry'. Buzzword fallacies. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Caused by democrats. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Blame democrats. Im a BM wrote: Carbon isn't organic. Im a BM wrote: Biogeochemistry does not exist. There is no such branch of science. Im a BM wrote: What water supplies?? Im a BM wrote: Climaet cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a 'scenario'. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: There is no such thing as a 'global environmental crisis'. Buzzword fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is already in the ground. Dig it up and use it as fuel. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is already in the ground. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Buzzword fallacies. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 13-01-2025 18:15 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
I keep begging Into the Night and IBdaMann to let us see THEIR published scientific papers, but they refuse to share any of their scientific secrets. I keep begging for just ONE NAME - a scientist, a textbook, a paper, just ONE NAME of a source they respect as "truly scientific". Maybe no such source exists. Well, it may not qualify as "science" according to the tenured resident trolls, but research papers keep getting published every day. Here are a couple. January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 13-01-2025 18:59 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Science is not a secret. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a book, paper, or person. The theories of science you choose to ignore have already been given to you multiple times. You just choose to ignore them. RQAA. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Im a BM wrote: Repetition fallacy. Stop spamming. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 14-01-2025 18:29 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Science is not a secret. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a book, paper, or person. The theories of science you choose to ignore have already been given to you multiple times. You just choose to ignore them. RQAA. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper. Im a BM wrote: Repetition fallacy. Stop spamming.[/quote] "pH cannot be less than or equal to zero." - Into the Night The CHEMISTRY CLOWN literally doesn't even know what pH IS. Any acid solution with [H+] greater than or equal to 1.0 N will have pH LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO ZERO. Because pH = -log[H+] And it is physically possible for an acid to be greater than or equal to 1.0 N. The 150 gallons of acid IBdaMann says will get diluted to pH 6.95 with a mere six billion liters of pure water - well, the ACID at 11.6 N has pH about -1, and the six billion liter mix reaches a dilute equilibrium pH of 5.96 ITN will just say "no" and hope that nobody notices he never said a thing that explained ANYTHING about chemistry. RQAA and stuff. |
| 16-01-2025 23:18 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: Inversion fallacy. DON'T BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON ANYBODY ELSE! Im a BM wrote: Argument from randU fallacy. Im a BM wrote: No, it isn't. Im a BM wrote: Irrelevance fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Argument from randU fallacies. Attempted proof by contrivance. Im a BM wrote: I am not going to teach you chemistry, Robert. There is too much material and you don't want to learn it anyway. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 16-01-2025 23:19 |
| 17-01-2025 03:05 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
Because pH = -log[H+] "No, it isn't.", says Into the Night. Into the Night clarifies what is NOT. The secret definition of pH is NOT the negative logarithm of hydrogen ion, H+, Molarity or Normality, moles per liter or equivalents per liter. The Secret Chemist is the ONLY ONE who knows what pH REALLY is. As he say, "I am not going to teach you any chemistry." NO SHIT, SHERLOCK! You cannot teach what you do not know. Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: |
| 17-01-2025 18:55 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: No, it isn't. Im a BM wrote: No, it isn't. Im a BM wrote: It is no secret. You just don't know what pH is. Im a BM wrote: I'm not, for the reasons I've already given. Im a BM wrote: Cliche fallacy. Random phrase. No apparent coherency. Im a BM wrote: Assumption of victory fallacy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 17-01-2025 19:00 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
DEFINE YOUR TERMS! Into the Night habitually uses the term "pH" in a nonsensical manner. Define your terms, Into the Night. You insist that pH is NOT = to -log[H+]. Which proves you are the "chemist" who has NO IDEA what pH IS. Because after many, many prompts, you REFUSE to DEFINE YOUR TERMS. Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: |
| 17-01-2025 19:50 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: Inversion fallacy. You cannot blame your problem on me or anybody else. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 17-01-2025 23:06 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: pH is a RATIO, according to Into the Night. I would welcome a chemistry lesson from ITN to elaborate. What is a RATIO again? It is a mathematical relation between two quantities. A fraction with a numerator and denominator, only the units don't need to be the same for both quantities. So, pH is a RATIO... Well, there is the RATIO of the number of individual hydrogen ions, H+, quantified in units of "moles" to the finite volume of solution they are contained in, quantified in units of "liters" or "cubic meters". That ratio is also called the MOLARITY or the NORMALITY of the solution. But that "ratio" is NOT pH. pH is the negative value of an EXPONENTIAL FUNCTION of that "ratio". pH is the NEGATIVE LOGARITHM of that "ratio". |
| 21-01-2025 18:07 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: pH is a RATIO, according to Into the Night. I would welcome a chemistry lesson from ITN to elaborate. What is a RATIO again? It is a mathematical relation between two quantities. A fraction with a numerator and denominator, only the units don't need to be the same for both quantities. So, pH is a RATIO... Well, there is the RATIO of the number of individual hydrogen ions, H+, quantified in units of "moles" to the finite volume of solution they are contained in, quantified in units of "liters" or "cubic meters". That ratio is also called the MOLARITY or the NORMALITY of the solution. But that "ratio" is NOT pH. pH is the negative value of an EXPONENTIAL FUNCTION of that "ratio". pH is the NEGATIVE LOGARITHM of that "ratio". |
| 22-01-2025 00:52 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 22-01-2025 09:02 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: No such thing as Biogeochemical. Buzzword fallacy. Im a BM wrote: You deny science, chemistry, mathematics, and the English language. Im a BM wrote: Carbon is not organic. There is no such thing as 'globally increased fires'. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Carbon is not organic. There is no such thing as 'biogeochemical cycling'. Im a BM wrote: So you like to drink swamp water. Im a BM wrote: Stop spamming. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 22-01-2025 21:55 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 23-01-2025 01:00 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Stop spamming. Climate cannot change. |
| 23-01-2025 22:10 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
Into the Night wrote: BEAUTIFUL! Just two very short sentences summarize your MAIN MESSAGE for MOST of your nearly 23,000 posts. I had been trying to help you summarize it with much longer sentences. There is no such thing as something that does not even exist. Science is not something that is not science. Something that is not a chemical is not a chemical. RQAA fallacy. |
| 25-01-2025 23:01 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 26-01-2025 00:24 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Stop spamming. Stop making shit up. Stop whining. |
| 26-01-2025 01:09 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 30-01-2025 05:17 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: Buzzwords isn't work. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 06-02-2025 18:43 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 Edited on 06-02-2025 18:53 |
| 08-02-2025 10:04 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Stop spamming. |
| 09-02-2025 20:25 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
February 9, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out a few days ago: Bhupinder Singh Jatana. 2025. Short term mineralization dynamics of meat and bone meal as impacted by different natural amendments. Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, (published online February 2, 2025) The basic idea is to add tannin-rich (i.e. polyphenol-rich) vegetable matter to "hot" compost materials such as meat and bone meal. The tannins slow the decomposition to minimize loss of nitrogen, etc, from the material, transforming it into "cool" compost - slow release fertilizer. The role of polyphenols as regulators of nitrogen cycling certainly has implications for evolutionary biology. But it has gotten far more attention from agronomists and foresters for its practical applications. -------------------------------- February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 (Into the Night will not be able to resist the compulsion to take spam on this) |
| 16-02-2025 20:58 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
And as it relates to COW GAS emissions... The "COW GAS! New Solutions for Earth's Oldest Line of Bacteria" thread brings up another point related to carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. It was falsely asserted that "..if cows do not eat the grass, it decays releasing methane anyway." No, it does not. Under aerobic conditions, the uneaten grass decays releasing CARBON DIOXIDE. But there is another important feature of this decomposing organic matter. Most of the organic carbon is oxidized and released as carbon dioxide. However, SOME of that organic carbon remains, perhaps chemically altered, as soil organic matter. For the "cow gas" thing, we'd rather see the cattle feed transformed into beef and milk than simply have it lost to the atmosphere as methane. For the carbon sequestration thing, we'd like to see as much of that organic carbon stay behind to become stable soil organic matter, rather than simply have it lost to the atmosphere as carbon dioxide. Polyphenols can help us accomplish BOTH goals. Cattle belch less methane when there is higher polyphenol content in their food. More of the organic carbon in the feed remains behind in the manure to form stable soil organic matter if it has higher polyphenol content. Rather than decompose to carbon dioxide, protein-tannin complexes and other complexes formed as polyphenols act as polydentate ligands attaching to organic compounds are very difficult to degrade. They form stable soil organic matter and slow release nitrogen fertilizer. --------------------------------------- February 9, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out a few days ago: Bhupinder Singh Jatana. 2025. Short term mineralization dynamics of meat and bone meal as impacted by different natural amendments. Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, (published online February 2, 2025) The basic idea is to add tannin-rich (i.e. polyphenol-rich) vegetable matter to "hot" compost materials such as meat and bone meal. The tannins slow the decomposition to minimize loss of nitrogen, etc, from the material, transforming it into "cool" compost - slow release fertilizer. The role of polyphenols as regulators of nitrogen cycling certainly has implications for evolutionary biology. But it has gotten far more attention from agronomists and foresters for its practical applications. -------------------------------- February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 (Into the Night will not be able to resist the compulsion to take spam on this) |
| 23-02-2025 23:54 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
February 23, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out 5 days ago: Lili Dong et al. 2025. Time-varying associations between absorptive fine roots and leaf litter decomposition across 23 plant species. Soil Biology and Biochemistry Volume 204 109751 gets into how accumulated recalcitrant compounds influence decomposition process. Highly relevant for carbon sequestration in GRASSLANDS, as they compared leaf litter and fine root litter decomposition in 23 different grass species. --------------------------------------- February 9, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out a few days ago: Bhupinder Singh Jatana. 2025. Short term mineralization dynamics of meat and bone meal as impacted by different natural amendments. Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, (published online February 2, 2025) The basic idea is to add tannin-rich (i.e. polyphenol-rich) vegetable matter to "hot" compost materials such as meat and bone meal. The tannins slow the decomposition to minimize loss of nitrogen, etc, from the material, transforming it into "cool" compost - slow release fertilizer. The role of polyphenols as regulators of nitrogen cycling certainly has implications for evolutionary biology. But it has gotten far more attention from agronomists and foresters for its practical applications. -------------------------------- February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 04-03-2025 18:25 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
IBdaMann wrote:sealover wrote:Wetlands are very effective at sequestering carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and storing it as organic carbon The discussion at this website was of MUCH HIGHER QUALITY back when IBdaMann wasn't AWOL from his duties here as a member of "the board" The scientific insights displayed in this IBdaMann post, as he fully "debunks" all the incorrect assertions... How will any scientific discussion be able to move forward without IBdaMann? |
| 06-03-2025 06:58 | |
IBdaMann ★★★★★(14955) |
Im a BM wrote: The discussion at this website was of MUCH HIGHER QUALITY back when IBdaMann wasn't AWOL from his duties here as a member of "the board" Alas, there is only one of me. Im a BM wrote: The scientific insights displayed in this IBdaMann post, as he fully "debunks" all the incorrect assertions... My insights weren't scientific insights; they were merely insights. Im a BM wrote: How will any scientific discussion be able to move forward without IBdaMann? That's a question best left to philosophers. |
| 06-03-2025 22:24 | |
Swan ★★★★★(6352) |
IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: The discussion at this website was of MUCH HIGHER QUALITY back when IBdaMann wasn't AWOL from his duties here as a member of "the board" Perhaps there is only one of you at a time, but there are many many of you IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?  Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy  Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 07-03-2025 19:00 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
February 23, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out 5 days ago: Lili Dong et al. 2025. Time-varying associations between absorptive fine roots and leaf litter decomposition across 23 plant species. Soil Biology and Biochemistry Volume 204 109751 gets into how accumulated recalcitrant compounds influence decomposition process. Highly relevant for carbon sequestration in GRASSLANDS, as they compared leaf litter and fine root litter decomposition in 23 different grass species. --------------------------------------- February 9, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out a few days ago: Bhupinder Singh Jatana. 2025. Short term mineralization dynamics of meat and bone meal as impacted by different natural amendments. Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, (published online February 2, 2025) The basic idea is to add tannin-rich (i.e. polyphenol-rich) vegetable matter to "hot" compost materials such as meat and bone meal. The tannins slow the decomposition to minimize loss of nitrogen, etc, from the material, transforming it into "cool" compost - slow release fertilizer. The role of polyphenols as regulators of nitrogen cycling certainly has implications for evolutionary biology. But it has gotten far more attention from agronomists and foresters for its practical applications. -------------------------------- February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 08-03-2025 22:06 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Swan wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Im a BM wrote: The discussion at this website was of MUCH HIGHER QUALITY back when IBdaMann wasn't AWOL from his duties here as a member of "the board" Obviously, you have no idea how to count. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 08-03-2025 22:13 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (22991) |
Im a BM wrote: So one of your buddies quoted your nonsense in a paper. Meh. Im a BM wrote: Carbon does not need to be 'sequestered'. Carbon is an element and found naturally in the soil. Im a BM wrote: Science is not a paper, no matter how many buddies you have quoting your nonsense. Since you think a plant can teach you something, I guess you consider them more intelligent than your worthless instructors at Berkeley. Climate cannot change. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 14-03-2025 08:35 | |
| Im a BM★★★★☆ (1925) |
February 23, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out 5 days ago: Lili Dong et al. 2025. Time-varying associations between absorptive fine roots and leaf litter decomposition across 23 plant species. Soil Biology and Biochemistry Volume 204 109751 gets into how accumulated recalcitrant compounds influence decomposition process. Highly relevant for carbon sequestration in GRASSLANDS, as they compared leaf litter and fine root litter decomposition in 23 different grass species. --------------------------------------- February 9, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out a few days ago: Bhupinder Singh Jatana. 2025. Short term mineralization dynamics of meat and bone meal as impacted by different natural amendments. Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, (published online February 2, 2025) The basic idea is to add tannin-rich (i.e. polyphenol-rich) vegetable matter to "hot" compost materials such as meat and bone meal. The tannins slow the decomposition to minimize loss of nitrogen, etc, from the material, transforming it into "cool" compost - slow release fertilizer. The role of polyphenols as regulators of nitrogen cycling certainly has implications for evolutionary biology. But it has gotten far more attention from agronomists and foresters for its practical applications. -------------------------------- February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
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February 23, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out 5 days ago: Lili Dong et al. 2025. Time-varying associations between absorptive fine roots and leaf litter decomposition across 23 plant species. Soil Biology and Biochemistry Volume 204 109751 gets into how accumulated recalcitrant compounds influence decomposition process. Highly relevant for carbon sequestration in GRASSLANDS, as they compared leaf litter and fine root litter decomposition in 23 different grass species. --------------------------------------- February 9, 2025 - New paper citing @sealover came out a few days ago: Bhupinder Singh Jatana. 2025. Short term mineralization dynamics of meat and bone meal as impacted by different natural amendments. Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, (published online February 2, 2025) The basic idea is to add tannin-rich (i.e. polyphenol-rich) vegetable matter to "hot" compost materials such as meat and bone meal. The tannins slow the decomposition to minimize loss of nitrogen, etc, from the material, transforming it into "cool" compost - slow release fertilizer. The role of polyphenols as regulators of nitrogen cycling certainly has implications for evolutionary biology. But it has gotten far more attention from agronomists and foresters for its practical applications. -------------------------------- February 6, 2025 - new paper came out eight days ago citing sealover. Zhenglin Zhang et al. 2025. Introduction of a Fallow Year to Continuous Rice Systems Enhances Crop Soil Nitrogen Uptake. European Journal of Soil Science, 2025: 76e70046 It makes me happy to see that the knowledge acquired in my published scientific research is being applied to enhance soil nitrogen crop uptake in rice. Not that I discovered "fallowing", just the role of polyphenols in nitrogen cycling. January 25, 2025 New one cites "sealover" 1995 pub in NATURE Plants as our teachers: Long-term Responses of Dwarf Shrub and Bryophyte Communities to Nutrient Addition in a Northern Swedish Island System. By Agnes Blomgren, this is actually a master's thesis just published at Umea University, Sweden. Like the pygmy forest where I did polyphenol research, dwarf shrubs and bryophytes grow on these Swedish Islands in places where the soil is virtually devoid of nutrients to support plant growth. Not a ground breaking new paper directly relevant to climate change, but it is fun to know that master's degree students are still reading my work and citing it as the basis for something in their own research. ---- January 8, 2025 Two new thread-related papers citing "sealover" came out 5 days ago: M. Ishfaq et al. 2025. Nitrogen phosphorus trade-offs in mangroves. Plant and Soil complete citation to follow. "sealover" just loves to see his name on a paper about those mangroves. It includes a BEAUTIFUL graphic cross section of the ecosystem and fluxes of carbon, nitrogen, etc. also came out 5 days ago: P. Yang et al. 2025. Heating-Induced Redox Property Dynamics of Peat Soil Dissolved Organic Matter in a Simulated Peat Fire: Electron Exchange Capacity and Molecular Characteristics. Biogeochemical Cycling complete citation to follow Love the title of that journal - Biogeochemical Cycling. And it is about PEAT in coastal wetlands. sealover is happy to see his name attached... take THAT you meanie troll bullies! SOMEBODY thinks i'm a for real science guy. Check out the first sentences of the abstract: "Peatlands store one-third of the world's soil organic carbon. Globally increased fires altered peat soil organic matter chemistry.." Because climate change has dramatically increased the frequency and severity of PEAT FIRES. Did they say "organic carbon"? It figures, since the journal is called "Biogeochemical Cycling", something that doesn't even exist. It's hard enough to keep the peat waterlogged enough that it doesn't just decompose and disappear as land surface elevation sinks. It also gets torched more than ever before, and it puts a lot of toxic partially burned organic matter into soluble state to contaminate water supplies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This new paper came out 24 days ago (November, 2024). It actually cites my FIRST paper published about polyphenols. "Intraspecific variation of conifer phenolic concentration on a marine terrace soil acidity gradient...", published in Plant and Soil, volume 171, pages 255-262, in 1995. This newest paper, just out a few weeks ago, is: M. Gabriela Mattera, et al. 2024. Intraspecific variation in leaf (poly)phenolic content of a southern hemisphere beech (Nothofagus antarctica) growing under different environmental conditions. Nature, Scientific Reports (2024) 14:20050. Investigation of intraspecific variation of polyphenol (aka tannin) content in tree leaves as a response to different environmental conditions is something I kind of pioneered in 1995. Soil properties are a very important environmental condition influencing how much polyphenol a plant will need to make in order to be competitive. Beech trees growing on acidic, silica-rich soils produce higher concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form decomposition-resistant leaf litter that accumulates above the mineral soil surface. (mor type humus) Beech trees growing on near-neutral pH, calcareous soils produce lower concentrations of polyphenols. Consequently they form easily-decomposed leaf litter that is rapidly incorporated into the mineral soil. (mull type humus) The capacity of trees to regulate decomposition and accumulation of soil organic matter through alteration of their polyphenol content is of GREAT SIGNIFICANCE for efforts to mitigate climate change. One goal of the research in this most recent paper (Mattera et al) was to "..also provide some clues about the performance of N. antarctica under future climate scenarios." Climate change has harmful feedbacks on plant chemistry. It is hoped that conscious management of plant chemistry could have eventually have beneficial feedbacks on climate change. To maximize carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. ------------------------------- The global environmental crisis will certainly get worse before it gets better. If it ever does get better. I am grateful to have lived long enough to see the new scientific paper that came out this April (2024), cited below. I am grateful that the knowledge I helped to discover about carbon and nitrogen cycling is being applied in the newest research, to help humanity address climate change. The very first post of this thread gives a broad background on the role of tannins in carbon sequestration and mitigation of nitrous oxide emissions. This paper was published April 10, 2024 B. Adamczyk. 2024. Tannins and climate change: Are tannins able to stabilize carbon in the soil? Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry. Volume 72, Issue 16, pages 8928-8932. This paper cites my tannin investigations and is highly relevant to the topic of carbon sequestration in agroecosystems. The author and I are quite familiar with each other's research. It was 35 years ago when I first became fully immersed in tannin (also known as polyphenol) research as a grad student at UC Berkeley. At that time, anti herbivore defense was presumed to be the sole adaptive value for plants to make tannins, despite little evidence that they are effective. Convoluted theories were created to explain why plant communities on highly infertile, acidic soils produced so much more tannin than plants on better soil, as somehow consistent with anti herbivore defense. At that time, nobody considered how tannin production could benefit the plants that produce them through their impact on carbon and nitrogen cycling. Tannins slow the decomposition of plant or soil organic matter they come into contact with. Tannins themselves are the substrate from which most soil humic acids are formed, having centuries long mean residence time in soil. It is highly gratifying to see this finally reach the point where the application to address climate change is being so explicitly identified in the title of a new paper. The most relevant posts of this thread are all compiled, beginning about 1/3 way down page 22 |
| 19-03-2025 22:47 | |
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