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liberal climate change scientists are in bad trouble now09-12-2016 20:29
Tai Hai Chen ★★★★☆ (1085)	http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/12/trump-transition-wants-names-of-energy-department-staff-who-worked-on-climate-232424
09-12-2016 21:50
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14407)	Tai Hai Chen wrote: http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/12/trump-transition-wants-names-of-energy-department-staff-who-worked-on-climate-232424 It's likely that those who attended UN "climate" conferences are in departments that Trump is likely to cut. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
09-12-2016 22:57
Tai Hai Chen ★★★★☆ (1085)	IBdaMann wrote: Tai Hai Chen wrote: http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/12/trump-transition-wants-names-of-energy-department-staff-who-worked-on-climate-232424 It's likely that those who attended UN "climate" conferences are in departments that Trump is likely to cut. . A Republican Nixon created EPA. EPA will be kept to serve its original intended function of protecting the environment. Clean air. Clean water. Clean land. No more AGW liberal mental craziness caused by man made chemicals damaging the brain. Edited on 09-12-2016 22:57
10-12-2016 04:46
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	Tai Hai Chen wrote: A Republican Nixon created EPA. Unlike the dictatorial, deadly & despotic communist chinese gov'mint (always small letters) that thc is buried under, the american public demanded & forced an anti-environmental gov'mint to protect the environment. ha ha ha thc. We can demand our gov'mint do sumpun & sometimes can force our gov'mint to do sumpun.
10-12-2016 05:44
Tai Hai Chen ★★★★☆ (1085)	litesong wrote:the american public demanded & forced an anti-environmental gov'mint to protect the environment. There was no such thing as AGW in the 1970s when EPA was created. Edited on 10-12-2016 05:50

10-12-2016 07:22
jwoodward48 ★★★★☆ (1537)	But there /was/ pollution.
10-12-2016 15:46
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14407)	jwoodward48 wrote:But there /was/ pollution. But it wasn't CO2. I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-12-2016 18:46
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	litesong wrote: Unlike the dictatorial, deadly & despotic communist chinese gov'mint (always small letters) that thc is buried under, the american public demanded & forced an anti-environmental gov'mint to protect the environment. ha ha ha thc. We can demand our gov'mint do sumpun & sometimes can force our gov'mint to do sumpun. thc thot:There was no such thing as AGW in the 1970s when EPA was created. //////// thc diverts from the knowledge that the dictatorial, deadly & despotic communist chinese gov'mint (always small letters) that reigns over his internet words, is the same dictatorial, deadly & despotic communist chinese gov'mint (always small letters) that murdered, tortured & starved to death 100 million of his BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES.
10-12-2016 20:35
Into the Night★★★★★ (21597)	jwoodward48 wrote: But there /was/ pollution. There is pollution today. The EPA has done almost nothing to clean up the air. Private solutions did almost all of it. Acid rain? Already being solved by instrumentation and scrubber technologies in coal, and improved techniques in sour oil refining, not just here but across the world. Particulate (soot), low level ozone, and smog? Most of that was done away with by the microprocessor, which allowed cheap FADEC systems in cars. The EGR system made quite a difference too (essentially a pipe and a valve). Made cars more reliable too. NONE of it was mandated by the EPA or California until AFTER the technology was already becoming available. Sewage in water supplies? Cleaned up by me and other engineers and scientists. Much less of a problem now. The EPA had no role at all. Not impressed with the EPA. I see no reason for its existence at all at this point. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
11-12-2016 00:47
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	Into the Night wrote: The EPA has done almost nothing to clean up the air. Private solutions did almost all of it. Acide rain....Already being solved by instrumentation and scrubber technologies in coal, and improved techniques in sour oil refining, not just here but across the world. Particulate (soot), low level ozone, and smog?.....NONE (pollution equipment) of it was mandated by the EPA or California until AFTER the technology was already becoming available. Sewage in water supplies?... The EPA had no role at all. EPA mandated all industries get on board with the technologies to decrease pollution. BEFORE EPA emissions regulations, industries stated in Congressional hearings that such measures would cripple any one company. It was sweet that such pollution technologies developed, just when the public was demanding pollution controls, democrats & re-pubic-lick-uns were of the same mind, & the newly instituted EPA directed industry to get on board the "no pollution game". AND OF COURSE, industry, under mandate from EPA, still had to develop some of the technologies to get them to PRACTICALLY work. Those first, second & third converter car catalytic exhaust systems gave consumers fits. Edited on 11-12-2016 00:55
11-12-2016 20:57
Into the Night★★★★★ (21597)	litesong wrote: Into the Night wrote: The EPA has done almost nothing to clean up the air. Private solutions did almost all of it. Acide rain....Already being solved by instrumentation and scrubber technologies in coal, and improved techniques in sour oil refining, not just here but across the world. Particulate (soot), low level ozone, and smog?.....NONE (pollution equipment) of it was mandated by the EPA or California until AFTER the technology was already becoming available. Sewage in water supplies?... The EPA had no role at all. EPA mandated all industries get on board with the technologies to decrease pollution. BEFORE EPA emissions regulations, industries stated in Congressional hearings that such measures would cripple any one company. It was sweet that such pollution technologies developed, just when the public was demanding pollution controls, democrats & re-pubic-lick-uns were of the same mind, & the newly instituted EPA directed industry to get on board the "no pollution game". AND OF COURSE, industry, under mandate from EPA, still had to develop some of the technologies to get them to PRACTICALLY work. Those first, second & third converter car catalytic exhaust systems gave consumers fits. No, it was after all right. The EPA could not order people to get 'on board' with the technologies unless the technologies already existed. No industry was forced to develop any technology. It is not possible to order the creation of a technology. The technologies DID practically work without the EPA getting involved at all. There is only one catalytic converter in a car. It's purpose is to convert sulfur dioxide and soot into carbon dioxide (and a bit of water). I call them pollution to pollution converters. They require a palladium catalyst (expensive!) to do it. These were required by the EPA even though they don't do anything particularly useful. The damn things still give consumers (and mechanics) fits. Cars put out less pollution today primarily because of the EGR system and FADEC systems. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
12-12-2016 01:30
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	[b]Into the Night wrote: There is only one catalytic converter in a car. These were required by the EPA even though they don't do anything particularly useful. The damn things still give consumers (and mechanics) fits. Cars put out less pollution today primarily because of the EGR system and FADEC systems. Always wanted to trade my U.S. emissions cars for communist chinese (always small letters) cars. All that communist chinese (always small letters) pollution makes me homesick for the bad city air of the 1950's & 60's. Failing that, I want VW diesels which put out 400 times more pollution than a Toyota Prius.
12-12-2016 17:36
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	Here's an article reflecting the title of this sick thread: http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/#4808b17969bb Yeah, you read right.... this bushwhack fibbing forbes article was from 2013, before rising global temperatures caused 2014, 2015 & 2016 to be the highest global temperature years in succession.
12-12-2016 18:44
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14407)	litesong wrote:Yeah, you read right.... this bushwhack fibbing forbes article was from 2013, before rising global temperatures caused 2014, 2015 & 2016 to be the highest global temperature years in succession. litesong buddy, the temperatures of 2014, 2015 and 2016 had the most distortion. You read the article. There's Global Cooling it reads. Doesn't that make it settled science? Things don't look so great for our AGW Berserker heroes. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
12-12-2016 21:15
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	IBdaMann wrote:... the temperatures of 2014, 2015 and 2016 had the most distortion. It is good that "i b da no-sigh-ants mann" has no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in an unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa to match its desire to evade science.

12-12-2016 21:20
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	IBdaMann wrote: There's Global Cooling it reads. 385+ straight months have past with ALL months being above the 20th century average. If global temperatures are random, its way past time for some low down low temperatures that occurred before the middle of the 20th century. It is good that "i b da no-sigh-ants mann" has no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra or pre-calc in an unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa to match its desire to evade science.
14-12-2016 20:01
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14407)	litesong wrote: 385+ straight months have past with ALL months being above the 20th century average. litesong my friend, nobody knows the average global temperature to any useful accuracy. Ergo, no one knows what any average of any such average global temperatures is to any useful accuracy. Ergo, no one knows if any average global temperature is above or below any average of average global temperatures. Ergo, no one knows if the earth's average global temperature is increasing or decreasing. All we know is that AGW berserkers are running amok in the Arctic: . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist Edited on 14-12-2016 20:02
15-12-2016 07:18
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	"i b da no sigh-ants mann" muffed: no one knows what any average of any such average global temperatures is to any useful accuracy. Correction: "i b da no sigh-ants mann" doesn't know what any average of any such average global temperatures is to any useful accuracy. That's to be expected because "i b da no sigh-ants mann" has no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
15-12-2016 16:44
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14407)	litesong wrote: "i b da no sigh-ants mann" muffed: no one knows what any average of any such average global temperatures is to any useful accuracy. Correction: "i b da no sigh-ants mann" doesn't know what any average of any such average global temperatures is to any useful accuracy. That's to be expected because "i b da no sigh-ants mann" has no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa. Now you are intentionally omitting "pukey proud pig" even though you know I have the hat! That's a low blow, litesong, you really should make things right. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :sigh* Not the "raw data" crap.* - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
16-12-2016 04:19
litesong ★★★★★ (2297)	"i b da no sigh-ants mann" wrote: Now you are [u]intentionally(sic) omitting "pukey proud pig" even though you know I have the hat! That's a low blow, litesong, you really should make things right. Ah, after years you understand that I have worked to describe you accurately & now you demand THAT accuracy. Yes indeed! In short, "i b da no sigh-ants mann" in long (& more accurately), is "old sick silly sleepy sleazy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner i b da no sigh-ants mann". It is good that in one aspect of your life (only).... your name.... you demand extra accuracy. I am glad to oblige.

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