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tmiddles wrote:

keepit wrote:
Socialism IS bad. Falsely accusing people of socialism isn't so good either.

Every developed nation in the world is socialist to some degree.

In the US we have loads of socialist programs: school, shelters, food stamps (60 billion), and publicly provided services.

The cheap shot here is using "socialist" in an attempt to draw an equivalence with totalitarian communism.

James___ wrote:
... "One mind, One people, One leader". Pretty much describes the GOP....

tmiddles wrote:

James___ wrote:
... "One mind, One people, One leader". Pretty much describes the GOP....

I think people have a universal attraction to a king, pharoah or furor.

tmiddles wrote:
The US system was founded on preventing king making and it is being sorely tested now.

James___ wrote:
@Harvey, you recently mentioned in a post that I've probably never have been nice to animals.
This cat was a feral kitten when he decided I would take care of him. He saw me feeding his mother and being nice to her.
And what he wanted besides food was a warm body to sleep on. And when he sees me on my computer, he'll nap between the keyboard and the monitor.
After I had surgery (was gone 2 weeks) he wanted to sleep on my abdomen. He still will nap on me but not where I had surgery.
At the same time, he's a cat and likes being outside.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8DxsZHQzfY7WWGe68

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:
@Harvey, you recently mentioned in a post that I've probably never have been nice to animals.
This cat was a feral kitten when he decided I would take care of him. He saw me feeding his mother and being nice to her.
And what he wanted besides food was a warm body to sleep on. And when he sees me on my computer, he'll nap between the keyboard and the monitor.
After I had surgery (was gone 2 weeks) he wanted to sleep on my abdomen. He still will nap on me but not where I had surgery.
At the same time, he's a cat and likes being outside.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8DxsZHQzfY7WWGe68

Here's a 30 second clip, first 10 seconds is my newest kitten...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcXv2FAcBSw

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:
@Harvey, you recently mentioned in a post that I've probably never have been nice to animals.
This cat was a feral kitten when he decided I would take care of him. He saw me feeding his mother and being nice to her.
And what he wanted besides food was a warm body to sleep on. And when he sees me on my computer, he'll nap between the keyboard and the monitor.
After I had surgery (was gone 2 weeks) he wanted to sleep on my abdomen. He still will nap on me but not where I had surgery.
At the same time, he's a cat and likes being outside.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8DxsZHQzfY7WWGe68

Here's a 30 second clip, first 10 seconds is my newest kitten...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcXv2FAcBSw

I watched it on my phone. Will need to wait until I get home to watch it on something bigger. Did see the raccoons though.

tmiddles wrote:The US system was founded on preventing king making and it is being sorely tested now.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:
@Harvey, you recently mentioned in a post that I've probably never have been nice to animals.
This cat was a feral kitten when he decided I would take care of him. He saw me feeding his mother and being nice to her.
And what he wanted besides food was a warm body to sleep on. And when he sees me on my computer, he'll nap between the keyboard and the monitor.
After I had surgery (was gone 2 weeks) he wanted to sleep on my abdomen. He still will nap on me but not where I had surgery.
At the same time, he's a cat and likes being outside.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8DxsZHQzfY7WWGe68

Here's a 30 second clip, first 10 seconds is my newest kitten...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcXv2FAcBSw

I watched it on my phone. Will need to wait until I get home to watch it on something bigger. Did see the raccoons though.

The cat went airborne... Didn't seem to do any harm.

IBdaMann wrote:

tmiddles wrote:The US system was founded on preventing king making and it is being sorely tested now.

... Did you wish to clarify the "in what way" ...

tmiddles wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

tmiddles wrote:The US system was founded on preventing king making and it is being sorely tested now.

... Did you wish to clarify the "in what way" ...

Our system is designed to have a an election where disputes can be settled in court where proving a case that there has been fraud or errors is done with evidence.

Trump has broken with 244 years of the US having a functional system where power is willingly surrendered to that system.

tmiddles wrote:
As the sitting president he has declared, without proving his case in court, that it is a fact that he won the election and that it was rigged. He has rallied his loyalists to that cause and they repeat it, again, without proving the case in court.

tmiddles wrote:
That a large percentage of the population have abandoned our system and joined Trump in denigrating our democracy just because they lost is the beginning of the end.

tmiddles wrote:
A democratic election isn't worth much if the population doesn't have confidence in the system.

tmiddles wrote:
I think there is a very good chance the US will see it's first dictator in the next 20 years, building on the foundation Trump will leave them.

Into the Night wrote:
Trump has filed his cases with the courts. They are still pending. He has not abandoned that system.

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Trump has filed his cases with the courts. They are still pending. He has not abandoned that system.

So as he has stated, as fact, that he won, it was rigged, ect, do you you think he is:
1- Dishonest
2- Insane
3- Clairvoyant
?

He has not waited for an investigation followed by a court ruling to announce, as President, that our election was "rigged" and he was the true winner.

If you're confused about what he has said you should go to his twitter:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump tweet:
"People will not accept this Rigged Election!"

But here is the proof you are a fraud ITN:
Will you accept the court ruling on this election?

Hey I know the RAYS should proclaim the World Series was rigged, that there was massive Reffing fraud and proclaim they in fact won.

So many possibilities when you abandon rational thought.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Have you seen all the court filings? Have you reviewed everything submitted to the courts as evidence?

tmiddles wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Have you seen all the court filings? Have you reviewed everything submitted to the courts as evidence?

Not yet. Like most people I will take an extreme interest in that if and when a judge finds it compelling.

So Harvey will you be accepting the court's ruling? Do you believe, have faith, that the election was rigged no matter what? Trump does.

And I'm not looking at "left media" but a state's reported vote counts and a judge's rulings.

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Trump has filed his cases with the courts. They are still pending. He has not abandoned that system.

So as he has stated, as fact, that he won, it was rigged, ect, do you you think he is:
1- Dishonest
2- Insane
3- Clairvoyant
?

tmiddles wrote:
He has not waited for an investigation followed by a court ruling to announce, as President, that our election was "rigged" and he was the true winner.

tmiddles wrote:
If you're confused about what he has said you should go to his twitter:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump tweet:
"People will not accept this Rigged Election!"

tmiddles wrote:
But here is the proof you are a fraud ITN:

tmiddles wrote:
Will you accept the court ruling on this election?

tmiddles wrote:
Hey I know the RAYS should proclaim the World Series was rigged, that there was massive Reffing fraud and proclaim they in fact won.

tmiddles wrote:
So many possibilities when you abandon rational thought.

HarveyH55 wrote:

tmiddles wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Trump has filed his cases with the courts. They are still pending. He has not abandoned that system.

So as he has stated, as fact, that he won, it was rigged, ect, do you you think he is:
1- Dishonest
2- Insane
3- Clairvoyant
?

He has not waited for an investigation followed by a court ruling to announce, as President, that our election was "rigged" and he was the true winner.

If you're confused about what he has said you should go to his twitter:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump tweet:
"People will not accept this Rigged Election!"

But here is the proof you are a fraud ITN:
Will you accept the court ruling on this election?

Hey I know the RAYS should proclaim the World Series was rigged, that there was massive Reffing fraud and proclaim they in fact won.

So many possibilities when you abandon rational thought.

Have you seen all the court filings? Have you reviewed everything submitted to the courts as evidence? Or are you just regurgitating what the left media tells you? Only the judge, Trump, and his lawyers, have full access to case documents. I doubt you noticed, but the left media, has only cover negative stories about Trump for 5 years. Very little about the court cases, accept the negatives. Nothing about the recounts, yet. Haven't been seeing much change in the rhetoric. The silence is telling, something good for Trump is going on.

gfm7175 wrote:
The Wisconsin Elections Commission is already playing games...

Immediately after Team Trump wired over the money, they held an emergency meeting in an attempt to make several changes to the recount manual. From what I gather, their attempt failed.

I find that to be an odd action for a Commission that is vehemently convinced that WI holds honest elections and that WI has absolutely no issues with how their elections are conducted...


As far as I understand, we also make use of Dominion software in certain areas of this State as well, so hopefully that is also being closely looked into...

And although only Dane and Milwaukee counties are being looked into atm with regard to recounts, and those results DEFINITELY do not seem right to me, I do hope that Waukesha and Ozaukee counties (Milwaukee suburbs) are eventually looked into as well. I feel that Trump should've either received more votes there or that he should've won by a larger margin there... Something just doesn't seem right to me with those results...

I expect that both Dane and Milwaukee counties counted MANY absentee ballots that are downright fraudulent (manufactured) and/or shouldn't have been counted due to illegal corrections being made to those ballots (with regard to witness signature/address info).

We'll see how it plays out.

gfm7175 wrote:
The Wisconsin Elections Commission is already playing games...

Immediately after Team Trump wired over the money, they held an emergency meeting in an attempt to make several changes to the recount manual. From what I gather, their attempt failed.

I find that to be an odd action for a Commission that is vehemently convinced that WI holds honest elections and that WI has absolutely no issues with how their elections are conducted...


As far as I understand, we also make use of Dominion software in certain areas of this State as well, so hopefully that is also being closely looked into...

And although only Dane and Milwaukee counties are being looked into atm with regard to recounts, and those results DEFINITELY do not seem right to me, I do hope that Waukesha and Ozaukee counties (Milwaukee suburbs) are eventually looked into as well. I feel that Trump should've either received more votes there or that he should've won by a larger margin there... Something just doesn't seem right to me with those results...

I expect that both Dane and Milwaukee counties counted MANY absentee ballots that are downright fraudulent (manufactured) and/or shouldn't have been counted due to illegal corrections being made to those ballots (with regard to witness signature/address info).

We'll see how it plays out.

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
The Wisconsin Elections Commission is already playing games...

Immediately after Team Trump wired over the money, they held an emergency meeting in an attempt to make several changes to the recount manual. From what I gather, their attempt failed.

I find that to be an odd action for a Commission that is vehemently convinced that WI holds honest elections and that WI has absolutely no issues with how their elections are conducted...


As far as I understand, we also make use of Dominion software in certain areas of this State as well, so hopefully that is also being closely looked into...

And although only Dane and Milwaukee counties are being looked into atm with regard to recounts, and those results DEFINITELY do not seem right to me, I do hope that Waukesha and Ozaukee counties (Milwaukee suburbs) are eventually looked into as well. I feel that Trump should've either received more votes there or that he should've won by a larger margin there... Something just doesn't seem right to me with those results...

I expect that both Dane and Milwaukee counties counted MANY absentee ballots that are downright fraudulent (manufactured) and/or shouldn't have been counted due to illegal corrections being made to those ballots (with regard to witness signature/address info).

We'll see how it plays out.

Is it possible that when President Trump said he did not support mail in voting because it was fraudulent that he encouraged Democrats to mail in their votes while discouraging Republicans from mailing in their votes?

James___ wrote:
It seems that no one in the GOP is responsible for anything.

James___ wrote:
Do you know why Kentuckians keep reelecting Senator McConnell?
It's because if the US isn't going to do for Kentucky what Kentuckians want, then the US can be dragged down to Kentucky's level.
And with Newt Gingrich from Georgia basically implementing that policy in the GOP, it's IMHO that the GOP will screw the US even more if it doesn't get what it wants.

James___ wrote:
Like you posting about the Norwegian jet stream and then my posting that 1 out of every 12 people in your state are part Norwegian. What did you do? You deleted both posts. Typical GOP tactic.

James___ wrote:
And what is the GOP up to? And GFM, the Secretary of State in Georgia is also a Republican. It is not a Democrat stating that the GOP was attempting to manipulate the election.

James___ wrote:
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) suggested that Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) find a way to throw out legal mail-in ballots, the election official told the Washington Post Monday,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/16/report-lindsey-graham-suggested-tossing-out-legal-mail-in-ballots-in-georgia-secretary-of-state-says/?sh=60be751a3928

gfm7175 wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if Graham and McConnell are "in on the fix" as well...

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if Graham and McConnell are "in on the fix" as well...

They are both a part of the GOP.

James___ wrote:
I think it's funny because Mcconnell is turning the GOP into the People's Party like in China. He and his wife are wealthy because of their shipping company's financial ties to China.
As a result, China controls the profitability of their company. Somehow the media and the DNC are okay with that. Basically, $350 Billion of our$Trillion budget deficit accounts for the trade deficit with China.
This in turn hurts Small Town, USA.

gfm7175 wrote:

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if Graham and McConnell are "in on the fix" as well...

They are both a part of the GOP.

Yes, and they ought to be OUT of the GOP... They are RINOs... They are completely useless, and are part of the problem. They are bought and paid for...

James___ wrote:
I think it's funny because Mcconnell is turning the GOP into the People's Party like in China. He and his wife are wealthy because of their shipping company's financial ties to China.
As a result, China controls the profitability of their company. Somehow the media and the DNC are okay with that. Basically, $350 Billion of our$Trillion budget deficit accounts for the trade deficit with China.
This in turn hurts Small Town, USA.

McConnell is wealthy for a lot of reasons. He is part of the problem.

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if Graham and McConnell are "in on the fix" as well...

They are both a part of the GOP.

Yes, and they ought to be OUT of the GOP... They are RINOs... They are completely useless, and are part of the problem. They are bought and paid for...

James___ wrote:
I think it's funny because Mcconnell is turning the GOP into the People's Party like in China. He and his wife are wealthy because of their shipping company's financial ties to China.
As a result, China controls the profitability of their company. Somehow the media and the DNC are okay with that. Basically, $350 Billion of our$Trillion budget deficit accounts for the trade deficit with China.
This in turn hurts Small Town, USA.

McConnell is wealthy for a lot of reasons. He is part of the problem.

Elaine Chao and Senator Mcconnell were given over $30 Million by Elaine's father as a gift. Also, when her father passed, if both Elaine and Mitch are still alive, they should inherit a fair chunk of the family business.
Somehow there's no conflict of interest. And China does have Most Favored Nation status which is given to developing economies.

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if Graham and McConnell are "in on the fix" as well...

They are both a part of the GOP. I think it's funny because Mcconnell is turning the GOP into the People's Party like in China. He and his wife are wealthy because of their shipping company's financial ties to China.
As a result, China controls the profitability of their company. Somehow the media and the DNC are okay with that. Basically, $350 Billion of our$Trillion budget deficit accounts for the trade deficit with China.
This in turn hurts Small Town, USA.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if Graham and McConnell are "in on the fix" as well...

They are both a part of the GOP. I think it's funny because Mcconnell is turning the GOP into the People's Party like in China. He and his wife are wealthy because of their shipping company's financial ties to China.
As a result, China controls the profitability of their company. Somehow the media and the DNC are okay with that. Basically, $350 Billion of our$Trillion budget deficit accounts for the trade deficit with China.
This in turn hurts Small Town, USA.

Call it BS... China took over our manufacturing, because they can do it cheaper. Democrats and unions, made it too expensive to be productive and profitable, manufacturing in America. Democrats are very good at blaming everybody else. But the truth, is we did this to ourselves. Democrats just don't get, that nothing is free, we have to pay for all the 'free stuff' the want to just give away.

tmiddles wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html
Biden flipped Georgia, first Democratic win there in 28 years.

Georgia's hand recount is completed and 5800 uncounted votes were found netting Trump 1400 votes and narrowing Biden's margin to 12,284 votes.

The governor, legislature (Democrats: 74
Republicans: 105) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger are all Republican.

Yet Trump had said: "The Georgia recount is a joke and is being done UNDER PROTEST. Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature!"

So I'm curious if anyone here rejects the Georgia results.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Call it BS... China took over our manufacturing, because they can do it cheaper. Democrats and unions, made it too expensive to be productive and profitable, manufacturing in America. Democrats are very good at blaming everybody else. But the truth, is we did this to ourselves. Democrats just don't get, that nothing is free, we have to pay for all the 'free stuff' the want to just give away.

That's sad Harvey. It's actually anti-American. I mean promoting the idea that communism is better than Democracy.

James___ wrote:
After all, without communism you couldn't afford the good life that you enjoy, could you?

James___ wrote:
And like you said, nothing is "free" but communism comes close.

tmiddles wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html

tmiddles wrote:
Biden flipped Georgia, first Democratic win there in 28 years.

tmiddles wrote:
Georgia's hand recount is completed and 5800 uncounted votes were found netting Trump 1400 votes and narrowing Biden's margin to 12,284 votes.

tmiddles wrote:
The governor, legislature (Democrats: 74
Republicans: 105) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger are all Republican.

tmiddles wrote:
Yet Trump had said: "The Georgia recount is a joke and is being done UNDER PROTEST. Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature!"

tmiddles wrote:
So I'm curious if anyone here rejects the Georgia results.

gfm7175 wrote:
...the fraudulent ballots...

tmiddles wrote:...Let me guess...

gfm7175 wrote:
[..can you hold an intelligent and meaningful conversation?

tmiddles wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html
Biden flipped Georgia, first Democratic win there in 28 years.

Georgia's hand recount is completed and 5800 uncounted votes were found netting Trump 1400 votes and narrowing Biden's margin to 12,284 votes.

tmiddles wrote:
The governor, legislature (Democrats: 74
Republicans: 105) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger are all Republican.

tmiddles wrote:
Yet Trump had said: "The Georgia recount is a joke and is being done UNDER PROTEST.

tmiddles wrote:
Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature!"

tmiddles wrote:
So I'm curious if anyone here rejects the Georgia results.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
...the fraudulent ballots...

Any reason to think this won't get due process in court?

Let me guess: if it does give you what you want the courts are rigged?



What could go wrong? Rudy is a very experienced attorney.
No lack or resources or support.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
[..can you hold an intelligent and meaningful conversation?

What issue do you have with:
"Any reason to think this won't get due process in court?"

Into the Night wrote:
It will get due process in court.

tmiddles wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
[..can you hold an intelligent and meaningful conversation?

What issue do you have with:
"Any reason to think this won't get due process in court?"