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JFK was not shot by Oswald, unless Oswald was on the grassy knoll22-07-2024 15:01
SwanProfile picture★★★★★
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https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both


IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD.

According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?


Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy


Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
23-07-2024 22:06
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both


The shooter's uncle is named Mark Crooks.

The shooter's dad is a psychologist, Matthew Crooks.

The shooter is Thomas Crooks.

Mark had not been in contact with Thomas for years, and said Thomas had not made the effort to continue the relationship. Mark's statement about Thomas made it seem to me like there was some kind of disagreement between Mark and his brother Matthew, Thomas' father, which lead to them falling out of contact.

I found an essay by a Mark Crooks, that said psychologists use fallacious logic to label all demonic possession cases as hoaxes.

It is the same kind of fallacious logic you see ITN presenting, such as, if one crow is white it proves crows aren't black.

The link to that essay I found is below.

https://www.globaljournalct.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Global-Journal-16.2-Crooks-MS.pdf

I haven't been able to confirm these are the same Mark, but it does seem to present a contentious discussion between brothers Mark and Matthew, the kind that leads to a discontinuation of a friendly relationship between brothers.

One may wonder if the disorders which Mark researched were present in Thomas, and if Matthew had dismissed them as nonsense.


24-07-2024 02:51
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both

Climate cannot change.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
24-07-2024 02:58
SwanProfile picture★★★★★
(5835)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both


The shooter's uncle is named Mark Crooks.

The shooter's dad is a psychologist, Matthew Crooks.

The shooter is Thomas Crooks.

Mark had not been in contact with Thomas for years, and said Thomas had not made the effort to continue the relationship. Mark's statement about Thomas made it seem to me like there was some kind of disagreement between Mark and his brother Matthew, Thomas' father, which lead to them falling out of contact.

I found an essay by a Mark Crooks, that said psychologists use fallacious logic to label all demonic possession cases as hoaxes.

It is the same kind of fallacious logic you see ITN presenting, such as, if one crow is white it proves crows aren't black.

The link to that essay I found is below.

https://www.globaljournalct.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Global-Journal-16.2-Crooks-MS.pdf

I haven't been able to confirm these are the same Mark, but it does seem to present a contentious discussion between brothers Mark and Matthew, the kind that leads to a discontinuation of a friendly relationship between brothers.

One may wonder if the disorders which Mark researched were present in Thomas, and if Matthew had dismissed them as nonsense.


There were at least two shooters shooting at Trump Crooks was the proverbial patsy as was Oswald


IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD.

According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?


Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy


Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
24-07-2024 03:03
SwanProfile picture★★★★★
(5835)
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both

Climate cannot change.


Climate never stops changing

Now please take your pills


IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD.

According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?


Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy


Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
24-07-2024 03:40
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Swan wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both


The shooter's uncle is named Mark Crooks.

The shooter's dad is a psychologist, Matthew Crooks.

The shooter is Thomas Crooks.

Mark had not been in contact with Thomas for years, and said Thomas had not made the effort to continue the relationship. Mark's statement about Thomas made it seem to me like there was some kind of disagreement between Mark and his brother Matthew, Thomas' father, which lead to them falling out of contact.

I found an essay by a Mark Crooks, that said psychologists use fallacious logic to label all demonic possession cases as hoaxes.

It is the same kind of fallacious logic you see ITN presenting, such as, if one crow is white it proves crows aren't black.

The link to that essay I found is below.

https://www.globaljournalct.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Global-Journal-16.2-Crooks-MS.pdf

I haven't been able to confirm these are the same Mark, but it does seem to present a contentious discussion between brothers Mark and Matthew, the kind that leads to a discontinuation of a friendly relationship between brothers.

One may wonder if the disorders which Mark researched were present in Thomas, and if Matthew had dismissed them as nonsense.


There were at least two shooters shooting at Trump Crooks was the proverbial patsy as was Oswald


None of that is confirmed, and probably never will be.

But do you happen to know if Thomas' uncle is a demon hunter?


24-07-2024 19:40
SwanProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Swan wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both


The shooter's uncle is named Mark Crooks.

The shooter's dad is a psychologist, Matthew Crooks.

The shooter is Thomas Crooks.

Mark had not been in contact with Thomas for years, and said Thomas had not made the effort to continue the relationship. Mark's statement about Thomas made it seem to me like there was some kind of disagreement between Mark and his brother Matthew, Thomas' father, which lead to them falling out of contact.

I found an essay by a Mark Crooks, that said psychologists use fallacious logic to label all demonic possession cases as hoaxes.

It is the same kind of fallacious logic you see ITN presenting, such as, if one crow is white it proves crows aren't black.

The link to that essay I found is below.

https://www.globaljournalct.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Global-Journal-16.2-Crooks-MS.pdf

I haven't been able to confirm these are the same Mark, but it does seem to present a contentious discussion between brothers Mark and Matthew, the kind that leads to a discontinuation of a friendly relationship between brothers.

One may wonder if the disorders which Mark researched were present in Thomas, and if Matthew had dismissed them as nonsense.


There were at least two shooters shooting at Trump Crooks was the proverbial patsy as was Oswald


None of that is confirmed, and probably never will be.

But do you happen to know if Thomas' uncle is a demon hunter?


Jesus Christ is unconfirmed too, until he hits you in the face that is or as the case may be breathes away the kill shot


IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD.

According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC

This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop

I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND.

ULTRA MAGA

"Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA

So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?


Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy


Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL
26-07-2024 20:24
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Swan wrote:

Jesus Christ is unconfirmed too, until he hits you in the face that is or as the case may be breathes away the kill shot


So you believe Jesus intervened to save DJT?

That must mean you promote DJT to be God's chosen one, as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

YIKES!




27-07-2024 07:59
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?
27-07-2024 19:55
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.



Edited on 27-07-2024 19:57
28-07-2024 23:09
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Swan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both

Climate cannot change.


Climate never stops changing

Now please take your pills

Climate cannot change.
I don't need any pills.

Your problem with reading and understanding English is YOUR problem.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
28-07-2024 23:12
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Swan wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Swan wrote:
https://rumble.com/v57w8z1-breaking-the-most-overlooked-aspect-of-the-trump-shooting-explained.html

Oh and climate change began closer to 5 billion years ago not 150 years ago

PS, Trump has the files on both


The shooter's uncle is named Mark Crooks.

The shooter's dad is a psychologist, Matthew Crooks.

The shooter is Thomas Crooks.

Mark had not been in contact with Thomas for years, and said Thomas had not made the effort to continue the relationship. Mark's statement about Thomas made it seem to me like there was some kind of disagreement between Mark and his brother Matthew, Thomas' father, which lead to them falling out of contact.

I found an essay by a Mark Crooks, that said psychologists use fallacious logic to label all demonic possession cases as hoaxes.

It is the same kind of fallacious logic you see ITN presenting, such as, if one crow is white it proves crows aren't black.

The link to that essay I found is below.

https://www.globaljournalct.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Global-Journal-16.2-Crooks-MS.pdf

I haven't been able to confirm these are the same Mark, but it does seem to present a contentious discussion between brothers Mark and Matthew, the kind that leads to a discontinuation of a friendly relationship between brothers.

One may wonder if the disorders which Mark researched were present in Thomas, and if Matthew had dismissed them as nonsense.


There were at least two shooters shooting at Trump Crooks was the proverbial patsy as was Oswald


None of that is confirmed, and probably never will be.

But do you happen to know if Thomas' uncle is a demon hunter?

There were three shooters, one of them was shooting at Trump.

Another was a cop firing his service pistol at the first shooter (but didn't hit him), and the third was a sniper team that killed the first shooter with a single shot.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
28-07-2024 23:14
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.

Inflation was lower while Trump was President.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
08-08-2024 18:59
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.

Inflation was lower while Trump was President.


And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020.

Can Trump take credit for that too?


09-08-2024 04:25
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.
09-08-2024 09:11
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


13-08-2024 22:27
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.

Inflation was lower while Trump was President.


And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020.

Can Trump take credit for that too?

Nah. Only the Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco 49r's are responsible for the outcome of that superbowl.

Inflation was considerably lower while Trump was President, despite the best efforts of the Democrats.

Inflation from 2016 to 2020 was 7.1% devaluation of the dollar.
Inflation from 2020 to today was 33% (so far).

Source: Federal Reserve.

In addition, due to Biden's (actually The Oligarch's) 'executive orders' banning certain aspects of oil productivity and economic shutdowns, shortages occurred (with attendant price spikes) due to higher shipping costs, particularly in food costs, chemical, and sundry costs (although it hit all markets).

Source: Executive order record, numerous news articles, and personal experience.

And I will vote for Trump (and already have in the primary). For me, therefore, Trump IS the chosen one, since that is who I choose.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 13-08-2024 22:27
13-08-2024 22:31
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


Inflation is the increase in the money supply that is greater than wealth being created through capitalism.

DEMOCRATS attempt to reduce capitalism, and order the Fed to print more money.

Therefore, to a certain extent, your statement is true. However, the federal government does directly control inflation, using the Fed and regulations strangling capitalism.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
14-08-2024 05:23
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.

Inflation was lower while Trump was President.


And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020.

Can Trump take credit for that too?

Nah. Only the Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco 49r's are responsible for the outcome of that superbowl.

Inflation was considerably lower while Trump was President, despite the best efforts of the Democrats.

Inflation from 2016 to 2020 was 7.1% devaluation of the dollar.
Inflation from 2020 to today was 33% (so far).

Source: Federal Reserve.

In addition, due to Biden's (actually The Oligarch's) 'executive orders' banning certain aspects of oil productivity and economic shutdowns, shortages occurred (with attendant price spikes) due to higher shipping costs, particularly in food costs, chemical, and sundry costs (although it hit all markets).

Source: Executive order record, numerous news articles, and personal experience.

And I will vote for Trump (and already have in the primary). For me, therefore, Trump IS the chosen one, since that is who I choose.


Inflation was lower under every past president

Going by Trump's standard, every president can take credit for keeping inflation lower.

Trump even said, "You don't want zero inflation"

He is locked in a paradox, as you like to say.

He wants to bring down inflation, but he wants inflation.

He can't have it both ways. He is pro inflation.


14-08-2024 05:32
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


Inflation is the increase in the money supply that is greater than wealth being created through capitalism.

DEMOCRATS attempt to reduce capitalism, and order the Fed to print more money.

Therefore, to a certain extent, your statement is true. However, the federal government does directly control inflation, using the Fed and regulations strangling capitalism.


Inflation is equal to spent savings.


15-08-2024 01:04
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.

Inflation was lower while Trump was President.


And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020.

Can Trump take credit for that too?

Nah. Only the Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco 49r's are responsible for the outcome of that superbowl.

Inflation was considerably lower while Trump was President, despite the best efforts of the Democrats.

Inflation from 2016 to 2020 was 7.1% devaluation of the dollar.
Inflation from 2020 to today was 33% (so far).

Source: Federal Reserve.

In addition, due to Biden's (actually The Oligarch's) 'executive orders' banning certain aspects of oil productivity and economic shutdowns, shortages occurred (with attendant price spikes) due to higher shipping costs, particularly in food costs, chemical, and sundry costs (although it hit all markets).

Source: Executive order record, numerous news articles, and personal experience.

And I will vote for Trump (and already have in the primary). For me, therefore, Trump IS the chosen one, since that is who I choose.


Inflation was lower under every past president

Dead wrong.

FDR had an inflation rate of 50%. This was caused by the conversion to fiat money, and the theft of gold.

Clinton had an inflation of 66% during his eight years.

Obama had an inflation of 75% during his eight years.

The inflation during Trump's years was 7%.

So far Biden has an inflation of 35% during his four years.

Source: Federal Reserve


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 15-08-2024 01:05
15-08-2024 01:08
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


Inflation is the increase in the money supply that is greater than wealth being created through capitalism.

DEMOCRATS attempt to reduce capitalism, and order the Fed to print more money.

Therefore, to a certain extent, your statement is true. However, the federal government does directly control inflation, using the Fed and regulations strangling capitalism.


Inflation is equal to spent savings.

Dead wrong.

Inflation is the increase in the money supply (M2), or the printing of money. That is the one and only cause.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
15-08-2024 01:59
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:... as if DJT's ego wasn't already inflated enough, and his followers sycophants.

Can you support this in any way?


He claims he is responsible for fixing problems that he has no control over, such as inflation being lower when he was president.

Did you not see the picture I shared of his sycophant followers?

Vote for Trump. The chosen one.

Inflation was lower while Trump was President.


And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020.

Can Trump take credit for that too?

Nah. Only the Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco 49r's are responsible for the outcome of that superbowl.

Inflation was considerably lower while Trump was President, despite the best efforts of the Democrats.

Inflation from 2016 to 2020 was 7.1% devaluation of the dollar.
Inflation from 2020 to today was 33% (so far).

Source: Federal Reserve.

In addition, due to Biden's (actually The Oligarch's) 'executive orders' banning certain aspects of oil productivity and economic shutdowns, shortages occurred (with attendant price spikes) due to higher shipping costs, particularly in food costs, chemical, and sundry costs (although it hit all markets).

Source: Executive order record, numerous news articles, and personal experience.

And I will vote for Trump (and already have in the primary). For me, therefore, Trump IS the chosen one, since that is who I choose.


Inflation was lower under every past president

Dead wrong.

FDR had an inflation rate of 50%. This was caused by the conversion to fiat money, and the theft of gold.

Clinton had an inflation of 66% during his eight years.

Obama had an inflation of 75% during his eight years.

The inflation during Trump's years was 7%.

So far Biden has an inflation of 35% during his four years.

Source: Federal Reserve


Prices have always been higher, when you compare them to prices 4 or 8 years ago. That means inflation is always lower under every previous president.

There may be rare exceptions to this generalization, such as from 1928 to 1932, but it's pretty much always the case.

You are talking about the rate of inflation.



Edited on 15-08-2024 02:00
15-08-2024 02:11
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


Inflation is the increase in the money supply that is greater than wealth being created through capitalism.

DEMOCRATS attempt to reduce capitalism, and order the Fed to print more money.

Therefore, to a certain extent, your statement is true. However, the federal government does directly control inflation, using the Fed and regulations strangling capitalism.


Inflation is equal to spent savings.

Dead wrong.

Inflation is the increase in the money supply (M2), or the printing of money. That is the one and only cause.


We are saying the same thing.

The money supply must increase by the amount of savings.

Here is why:

Say there are 1,000 people in a workforce.

$300 is the price for each person to buy what they need in 1 year.

If all is equal, by year end, $300,000 is spent and $300,000 is earned.

But all is not equal. The superior class takes the lion's share of the available earnings.

100 people get paid $450 per year.

900 people get paid $283.33 per year.

900 people need an extra $16.67 by year end.

100 people have an extra $150 by year end.

At the end of the year there is savings of $15,000 and a deficit of $15,000.

The 900 people will need to get credit cards, mortgages, or other loans to cover their expenses of $300.

If the 100 people spend all their $450 in the course of the year, and all else is constant, there is $315,000 spent, and it will then take $315 for everybody to buy what they need.

The net prices of everything people need will have risen 5% in the course of the year.


16-08-2024 00:54
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


Inflation is the increase in the money supply that is greater than wealth being created through capitalism.

DEMOCRATS attempt to reduce capitalism, and order the Fed to print more money.

Therefore, to a certain extent, your statement is true. However, the federal government does directly control inflation, using the Fed and regulations strangling capitalism.


Inflation is equal to spent savings.

Dead wrong.

Inflation is the increase in the money supply (M2), or the printing of money. That is the one and only cause.


We are saying the same thing.

No, you are not.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The money supply must increase by the amount of savings.

Irrelevance fallacy.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Here is why:

Say there are 1,000 people in a workforce.

$300 is the price for each person to buy what they need in 1 year.

If all is equal, by year end, $300,000 is spent and $300,000 is earned.

But all is not equal. The superior class takes the lion's share of the available earnings.

100 people get paid $450 per year.

900 people get paid $283.33 per year.

900 people need an extra $16.67 by year end.

100 people have an extra $150 by year end.

At the end of the year there is savings of $15,000 and a deficit of $15,000.

The 900 people will need to get credit cards, mortgages, or other loans to cover their expenses of $300.

If the 100 people spend all their $450 in the course of the year, and all else is constant, there is $315,000 spent, and it will then take $315 for everybody to buy what they need.

The net prices of everything people need will have risen 5% in the course of the year.

Attempted proof by contrivance. Special pleading fallacies.


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16-08-2024 04:18
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Inflation was lower while Trump was President.
And the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020. Can Trump take credit for that too?

The Federal Reserve operates within the framework of Executive branch directors who guide the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

It is true that the Federal Reserve can always disagree just do its own thing, but if they do, they risk having the Executive branch walk over to Congress and recommend they apply some Congressional oversight body-slams. Do you recall Congress ever needing to body-slam the Fed? No, you didn't. The Fed adhered to Donald Trump's policies and helped make America great again.

The Kansas City Chiefs, on the other hand, do not fall under the Executive branch.


The Federal Reserve cannot control inflation either.


Inflation is the increase in the money supply that is greater than wealth being created through capitalism.

DEMOCRATS attempt to reduce capitalism, and order the Fed to print more money.

Therefore, to a certain extent, your statement is true. However, the federal government does directly control inflation, using the Fed and regulations strangling capitalism.


Inflation is equal to spent savings.

Dead wrong.

Inflation is the increase in the money supply (M2), or the printing of money. That is the one and only cause.


We are saying the same thing.

No, you are not.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The money supply must increase by the amount of savings.

Irrelevance fallacy.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Here is why:

Say there are 1,000 people in a workforce.

$300 is the price for each person to buy what they need in 1 year.

If all is equal, by year end, $300,000 is spent and $300,000 is earned.

But all is not equal. The superior class takes the lion's share of the available earnings.

100 people get paid $450 per year.

900 people get paid $283.33 per year.

900 people need an extra $16.67 by year end.

100 people have an extra $150 by year end.

At the end of the year there is savings of $15,000 and a deficit of $15,000.

The 900 people will need to get credit cards, mortgages, or other loans to cover their expenses of $300.

If the 100 people spend all their $450 in the course of the year, and all else is constant, there is $315,000 spent, and it will then take $315 for everybody to buy what they need.

The net prices of everything people need will have risen 5% in the course of the year.

Attempted proof by contrivance. Special pleading fallacies.


My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.


16-08-2024 19:19
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


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16-08-2024 21:26
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


17-08-2024 00:32
GasGuzzler
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
17-08-2024 03:29
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation, and the generalized reason for it, because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low, when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization. Everybody is behind it, and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.


17-08-2024 22:03
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
17-08-2024 22:03
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


Well put.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
17-08-2024 23:32
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


Is your answer to my question, why does the money supply grow?

Just The Federal Reserve and those controlling it.

The Federal Reserve is controlled by the prices of everything.

You are absolutely wrong if you think the Federal Reserve controls prices, because prices are what controls the Federal Reserve.

You and your friends are what I like to call George Costanza indicators. One can just imagine the opposite of all your positions, and probably never be wrong.


18-08-2024 07:24
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


Is your answer to my question, why does the money supply grow?

Just The Federal Reserve and those controlling it.

That's righ t.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Federal Reserve is controlled by the prices of everything.

Nope. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You are absolutely wrong if you think the Federal Reserve controls prices, because prices are what controls the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You and your friends are what I like to call George Costanza indicators. One can just imagine the opposite of all your positions, and probably never be wrong.

DON'T TRY TO CLAIM THINGS I NEVER SAID!


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
18-08-2024 17:54
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


Is your answer to my question, why does the money supply grow?

Just The Federal Reserve and those controlling it.

That's righ t.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Federal Reserve is controlled by the prices of everything.

Nope. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You are absolutely wrong if you think the Federal Reserve controls prices, because prices are what controls the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You and your friends are what I like to call George Costanza indicators. One can just imagine the opposite of all your positions, and probably never be wrong.

DON'T TRY TO CLAIM THINGS I NEVER SAID!


The Federal Reserve and Congress cannot control inflation.

Your comments are never on point.


19-08-2024 06:34
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(22518)
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


Is your answer to my question, why does the money supply grow?

Just The Federal Reserve and those controlling it.

That's righ t.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Federal Reserve is controlled by the prices of everything.

Nope. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You are absolutely wrong if you think the Federal Reserve controls prices, because prices are what controls the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You and your friends are what I like to call George Costanza indicators. One can just imagine the opposite of all your positions, and probably never be wrong.

DON'T TRY TO CLAIM THINGS I NEVER SAID!


The Federal Reserve and Congress cannot control inflation.

They both do.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Your comments are never on point.

Bulverism fallacy.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
19-08-2024 07:52
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
(1850)
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


Is your answer to my question, why does the money supply grow?

Just The Federal Reserve and those controlling it.

That's righ t.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Federal Reserve is controlled by the prices of everything.

Nope. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You are absolutely wrong if you think the Federal Reserve controls prices, because prices are what controls the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You and your friends are what I like to call George Costanza indicators. One can just imagine the opposite of all your positions, and probably never be wrong.

DON'T TRY TO CLAIM THINGS I NEVER SAID!


The Federal Reserve and Congress cannot control inflation.

They both do.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Your comments are never on point.

Bulverism fallacy.



The forces behind inflation are far greater than the combined authority of Congress and The Federal Reserve.


19-08-2024 19:34
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
My example simplifies a complex arrangement. It would be impossible for me to convey its entire complexity, on a message board. A hypothetical example of its most basic form is explicitly stated, so that its nature can be easily understood, and the true reason for inflation can be determined.

Complexity fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

Inflation has one and only one cause. Increasing the money supply (M2).


Why does the money supply increase?


Because congress can't figure out how to live within it's means, just like 900 people in your example. The bills must get paid so they just create the money.
Every time they create money, there is an increase of dollars but no increase in wealth. This causes inflation because each existing dollar is now worth less. But I do applaud your strict adherence to the democrat playbook with your demonization of people who produce and get paid on a higher level.

I am not filthy rich. I do well and have made sacrifices and broken my ass to get where I am and turds like you will NEVER make me feel guilty for a single penny of my net worth.


I just changed the topic to inflation,

Meh.
Spongy Iris wrote:
and the generalized reason for it,

You need a reason to pivot?
Spongy Iris wrote:
because Trump likes to take credit for keeping inflation low,

Inflation during the Trump administration was 7%. That's low. Source: Federal Reserve.
Spongy Iris wrote:
when the phenomenon is a greater force than any individual and/or organization.

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve. It is the only single cause of inflation.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Everybody is behind it,

Nope. Just the Federal Reserve and those controlling it (Congress).
Spongy Iris wrote:
and he has no more control over it than the waves in the sea and the wind in the air.

Correct. As President, however, Trump can influence Congress, and alleviate the shortages that are causing high oil and transportation costs.


Is your answer to my question, why does the money supply grow?

Just The Federal Reserve and those controlling it.

That's righ t.
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Federal Reserve is controlled by the prices of everything.

Nope. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You are absolutely wrong if you think the Federal Reserve controls prices, because prices are what controls the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.
Spongy Iris wrote:
You and your friends are what I like to call George Costanza indicators. One can just imagine the opposite of all your positions, and probably never be wrong.

DON'T TRY TO CLAIM THINGS I NEVER SAID!


The Federal Reserve and Congress cannot control inflation.

They both do.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Your comments are never on point.

Bulverism fallacy.



The forces behind inflation are far greater than the combined authority of Congress and The Federal Reserve.

Nope. Only the Federal Reserve causes inflation. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.


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19-08-2024 20:13
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Into the Night wrote:
Nope. Only the Federal Reserve causes inflation. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.


The Federal Reserve prints very little money relative to all the money printed, not enough to cause inflation.


19-08-2024 21:46
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Nope. Only the Federal Reserve causes inflation. The Federal Reserve is controlled by Congress.


The Federal Reserve prints very little money relative to all the money printed, not enough to cause inflation.

Inflation does not require printing physical money. Special pleading fallacy.


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