It's Coming - Be Prepared16-11-2019 21:01 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14108) |
The Ohio House of Representatives recently passed HB 164 (not yet passed by the Sate Senate) which addresses education. The end of the bill addresses (affirms) students' religious freedom of expression. The bill specifies that students cannot be either penalized or rewarded for expressing a religious view, if the view is a result of a religious belief. This is nothing that isn't already covered under the 1st Amendment. Marxists are already bashing Christians, however, by mischaracterizing the bill as allowing students to be "scientifically wrong" without losing points on assignments and tests. (A) Sections 3320.01, 3320.02, and 3320.03 of the Revised Code shall be collectively known as the "Ohio Student Religious Liberties Act of 2019 ." I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
16-11-2019 21:15 | |
HarveyH55![]() (5022) |
For the vast majority of students, they are going to regurgitate, exactly what the learned in class, hoping to give the teacher what's expected, the simpler approach to school work. Given an alternative, religious, response will take a lot more work and research, than simply responding 'God', or quoting a few scriptures. Nothing wrong with faith, but it's really hard to explain on paper. Of course, they would need to show a working understanding of the science version, to show it's wrong, and their religious version is correct. A student that goes through all that extra effort certainly deserves a fair grade, even if it's just BS. |
16-11-2019 22:40 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
HarveyH55 wrote: The 'science version' of what? The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
16-11-2019 23:09 | |
olyz★☆☆☆☆ (87) |
Scientific version of creation? Where did the Big Bang come from? |
17-11-2019 01:56 | |
HarveyH55![]() (5022) |
I'm not a Christian Science scholar at all, but aware that there is a lot more than evolution to it. I'm more interested in the tradition science, the others are a little too metaphysical for me. |
17-11-2019 07:24 | |
Into the Night![]() (21140) |
olyz wrote: The Theory of Creation is not a scientific theory. Neither is the Theory of the Big Bang. Science has no theories about past unobserved events. There is no way to test them without going back in time to the event to see what actually happened. Both theories remain circular, and have arguments extending from them. They are both religions. The same is true of the Theory of Evolution, the Theory of Abiogenesis, and the Theory of the Continuum. So when a school teaches any of this stuff, it is not teaching science. It is teaching religion. Even worse, they teach the so-called 'global warming' religion, even though 'global warming' remains undefined. It's not a theory at all, scientific or otherwise. You have to have a valid argument to have a theory, which is an explanatory argument. Using an undefined word as the basis of any argument is to produce a void argument fallacy. Yet the schools teach this religion also. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 17-11-2019 07:30 |
17-11-2019 16:06 | |
HarveyH55![]() (5022) |
So, it's just another pointless, useless law, all schools only teach religion. This proposed law just points out that students have the right to chose which religion they base their work on, rather than regurgitate what's forced on them in class... |
17-11-2019 16:46 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
Assignment grades and scores shall be calculated using ordinary academic standards of substance and relevance, including any legitimate pedagogical concerns, and shall not penalize or reward a student based on the religious content of a student's work. All this is saying is ignore any religious expression in their work. An example of this is - God created the universe in 8 days. Scientists are wrong when they say it's about 15 billion years old. As far as the law reads, my answer was that the universe is about 15 billion years old. The opinion or reasons I gave did not matter. The separation of church and state would agree with this. People's personal religious beliefs are not a part of a school's academic curriculum. And a chess club or a Bible study group is not a part of the academic curriculum but is a social activity. All the law allows for is for religious people to disagree with the curriculum. I wonder if someone will try challenging this by saying God created the universe in 8 days on a test. If so, about all they would have to be asked is where is math in the Bible and what is its definition of a day? Neither answer is given in the Bible. It would seem that even in the Bible that they relied on what others learned outside of the Bible to help give what was written meaning. Edited on 17-11-2019 16:47 |
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