Is Venus Relevant to Earth?

Into the Night wrote: I would say so, since it is often used as an example of an 'Earth gone bad' due to the amount of CO2 in it's atmosphere.

Into the Night wrote: Personally, I have no idea now Venus could have ever looked remotely like Earth.

IBdaMann wrote:
Is Venus relevant on this board?

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
Is Venus relevant on this board?

It's about as relevant as you and ITN are.

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

HarveyH55 wrote:
The democrats seem to like issues that piss off the republicans. The House just passed doubling the federal minimum wage, $15/hour. Don't think it will pass the senate, Trump shouldn't pass it. It's bad timing though, being election season, and easy, or free money clouds a lot of voter thinking.

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time. Barry didn't really cause the death and destruction needed for getting people stirred up much.

We've been studying Mars a lot closer than Venus, would think that to be the most likely fixation. Maybe Mars get so much attention, since it's a little more likely for people to move there and survive, briefly... Venus, nothing we send there to do any studying, doesn't last very long. Don't really understand the fixation with Mars, other than the challenge. Seems like a very low probability of returning people safely back to Earth. Always thought a moon colony would have been a better project. The space station thing, was just throwing money and materials away. The zero gravity experiments could have been done on the ride to and from the moon, or on a smaller version of a space lab, if requiring a longer duration. Light gravity on the moon, probably wouldn't be so bad for most of that stuff anyway.

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

Into the Night wrote:It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

IBdaMann wrote:

Into the Night wrote:It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I put a thread on this on Politiplex: Will the [USA] Democrat Party Split?

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Into the Night wrote:It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I put a thread on this on Politiplex: Will the [USA] Democrat Party Split?

You said something but I did not hear. Either I am deaf or you said nothing. I'm not deaf.

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I think Trump is a whole lot smarter than he acts. Seems to really have a knack for stirring up the hornets nest. He tweet some stuff, the democrats immediately pounced on, as racist, and poor behavior for a president, quick vote of resolution to condemn. But, I didn't see anything that was directed specifically at anybody in congress, not did he specifically state they should leave the country. Could be taken many ways, but he was very careful about the wording. Most of congress isn't from Washington, DC, they represent individual states, which they tend to ignore... Going back to where they came from, could just mean go back to your home state. The 4 women, who felt they were targeted, had also made some insensitive comments, acted badly, in just the first few months of being elected. Maybe feeling guilty...
Never really understood what exactly is considered antisemitic, so just avoid saying anything that isn't praise or respectful. But two of those congresswomen really crossed the line, and should have gotten a little more than a talking to over it. Part of being an elected official, is that you are always on the clock, everything you do and say, is work related. Starting pay of $175k/yr, we deserve professionals. They'll be up for re-election, before earned, what they make in a year. Yet, they want to impeach Trump over his tweets, that weren't specific enough to waste time and money on. The point is, why run for office, if you don't love the country, and want to see it improving? It's not suppose to be about democrats and republicans, it's about the people who elected them. Doing nothing constructive, and fighting each other, isn't helping the country.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I think Trump is a whole lot smarter than he acts. Seems to really have a knack for stirring up the hornets nest. He tweet some stuff, the democrats immediately pounced on, as racist, and poor behavior for a president, quick vote of resolution to condemn. But, I didn't see anything that was directed specifically at anybody in congress, not did he specifically state they should leave the country. Could be taken many ways, but he was very careful about the wording. Most of congress isn't from Washington, DC, they represent individual states, which they tend to ignore... Going back to where they came from, could just mean go back to your home state. The 4 women, who felt they were targeted, had also made some insensitive comments, acted badly, in just the first few months of being elected. Maybe feeling guilty...
Never really understood what exactly is considered antisemitic, so just avoid saying anything that isn't praise or respectful. But two of those congresswomen really crossed the line, and should have gotten a little more than a talking to over it. Part of being an elected official, is that you are always on the clock, everything you do and say, is work related. Starting pay of $175k/yr, we deserve professionals. They'll be up for re-election, before earned, what they make in a year. Yet, they want to impeach Trump over his tweets, that weren't specific enough to waste time and money on. The point is, why run for office, if you don't love the country, and want to see it improving? It's not suppose to be about democrats and republicans, it's about the people who elected them. Doing nothing constructive, and fighting each other, isn't helping the country.

Harley, you're ignorant. This is the 21st century. Americans told my father to go back to where he came from. I wish he did. I would've had a better life. I could've had a family.
Stick to the issue and quit being a racist pig. We all know Americans are just better. Ask ITN.

And ITN, when you say Americans are better. I will agree with you.

Harvey, it's written about in books, American and in the Philippines? $10 and she has to do anything you want. Want a 12 year old girl? Had American shipmates who said yes. They bragged about it.
Why US bases were closed in the Philippines. I can also point out the book by a Navy pilot who mentions things that would be illegal in the US.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I think Trump is a whole lot smarter than he acts. Seems to really have a knack for stirring up the hornets nest. He tweet some stuff, the democrats immediately pounced on, as racist, and poor behavior for a president, quick vote of resolution to condemn. But, I didn't see anything that was directed specifically at anybody in congress, not did he specifically state they should leave the country. Could be taken many ways, but he was very careful about the wording. Most of congress isn't from Washington, DC, they represent individual states, which they tend to ignore... Going back to where they came from, could just mean go back to your home state. The 4 women, who felt they were targeted, had also made some insensitive comments, acted badly, in just the first few months of being elected. Maybe feeling guilty...
Never really understood what exactly is considered antisemitic, so just avoid saying anything that isn't praise or respectful. But two of those congresswomen really crossed the line, and should have gotten a little more than a talking to over it. Part of being an elected official, is that you are always on the clock, everything you do and say, is work related. Starting pay of $175k/yr, we deserve professionals. They'll be up for re-election, before earned, what they make in a year. Yet, they want to impeach Trump over his tweets, that weren't specific enough to waste time and money on. The point is, why run for office, if you don't love the country, and want to see it improving? It's not suppose to be about democrats and republicans, it's about the people who elected them. Doing nothing constructive, and fighting each other, isn't helping the country.

Harley, you're ignorant. This is the 21st century. Americans told my father to go back to where he came from. I wish he did. I would've had a better life. I could've had a family.
Stick to the issue and quit being a racist pig. We all know Americans are just better. Ask ITN.

And ITN, when you say Americans are better. I will agree with you.

Harvey, it's written about in books, American and in the Philippines? $10 and she has to do anything you want. Want a 12 year old girl? Had American shipmates who said yes. They bragged about it.
Why US bases were closed in the Philippines. I can also point out the book by a Navy pilot who mentions things that would be illegal in the US.

So what keeps you here in America? The door is always open, there are a lot of countries that would welcome you. I don't travel outside the country, most because it could be sort of expensive, and I likely spend more time learning the laws and customs, before going, then I would actually be staying there. I don't think doing the tourist thing, really gives an honest view of any country, and you can always look at the same pictures and videos, of anything you'd likely see going there. Our country is the same, we tend to keep the tourist areas safe and clean, but a few streets over, you can buy drugs, prostitutes, and get beaten and robbed. I've heard you can look down the street in front of the White House, and see drug deals two blocks away.
Some people travel, think they don't have to obey the laws and customs in other countries, because they are American, they have rights. Not all countries have the same laws and punishments. Some Americans take advantage of the local customs in other countries, things that are illegal, or immoral here. I don't think they can be prosecuted for things that or legal in other countries, while there. Our laws only apply on American soil, and we are expected to follow the laws of whatever country we visit.

I can't imagine a much better life anywhere else. No country is going to be perfect, but this hasn't been bad at all. You complain about it, our people, you hate America. Ever considered running for congress? Seems like the democrat thing these days.

James___ wrote: You said something but I did not hear. Either I am deaf or you said nothing. I'm not deaf.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I think Trump is a whole lot smarter than he acts. Seems to really have a knack for stirring up the hornets nest.

HarveyH55 wrote:
He tweet some stuff, the democrats immediately pounced on, as racist, and poor behavior for a president, quick vote of resolution to condemn.

HarveyH55 wrote:
But, I didn't see anything that was directed specifically at anybody in congress, not did he specifically state they should leave the country.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Could be taken many ways, but he was very careful about the wording.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Most of congress isn't from Washington, DC, they represent individual states, which they tend to ignore... Going back to where they came from, could just mean go back to your home state. The 4 women, who felt they were targeted, had also made some insensitive comments, acted badly, in just the first few months of being elected. Maybe feeling guilty...

HarveyH55 wrote:
Never really understood what exactly is considered antisemitic, so just avoid saying anything that isn't praise or respectful. But two of those congresswomen really crossed the line, and should have gotten a little more than a talking to over it. Part of being an elected official, is that you are always on the clock, everything you do and say, is work related. Starting pay of $175k/yr, we deserve professionals. They'll be up for re-election, before earned, what they make in a year. Yet, they want to impeach Trump over his tweets, that weren't specific enough to waste time and money on.

HarveyH55 wrote:
The point is, why run for office, if you don't love the country, and want to see it improving?

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's not suppose to be about democrats and republicans, it's about the people who elected them. Doing nothing constructive, and fighting each other, isn't helping the country.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
It's about as relevant as most Climatology sign reading schemes. Really surprised that Hurricane Barry didn't get much climate change attention. Last year, even tropical storms got blamed on man-made CO2. Maybe it didn't sell well last year, so they are focusing on a different product this time.

The Church of Global Warming has been in serious decline for several years now. The DNC already has told its candidates to avoid emphasizing Climate Change because it's a loser that generates huge negatives (of course all Democrat candidates must continue to talk to it to appease their fanatical base lest they risk getting thrown out of the race)

It's going to be a real test of the Democrats, this issue. It is setting radical against radical. It is quickly becoming the religious war that could tear the party in two. You already saw what it did in the House recently.

I think Trump is a whole lot smarter than he acts. Seems to really have a knack for stirring up the hornets nest. He tweet some stuff, the democrats immediately pounced on, as racist, and poor behavior for a president, quick vote of resolution to condemn. But, I didn't see anything that was directed specifically at anybody in congress, not did he specifically state they should leave the country. Could be taken many ways, but he was very careful about the wording. Most of congress isn't from Washington, DC, they represent individual states, which they tend to ignore... Going back to where they came from, could just mean go back to your home state. The 4 women, who felt they were targeted, had also made some insensitive comments, acted badly, in just the first few months of being elected. Maybe feeling guilty...
Never really understood what exactly is considered antisemitic, so just avoid saying anything that isn't praise or respectful. But two of those congresswomen really crossed the line, and should have gotten a little more than a talking to over it. Part of being an elected official, is that you are always on the clock, everything you do and say, is work related. Starting pay of $175k/yr, we deserve professionals. They'll be up for re-election, before earned, what they make in a year. Yet, they want to impeach Trump over his tweets, that weren't specific enough to waste time and money on. The point is, why run for office, if you don't love the country, and want to see it improving? It's not suppose to be about democrats and republicans, it's about the people who elected them. Doing nothing constructive, and fighting each other, isn't helping the country.

Harley, you're ignorant.

James___ wrote:
This is the 21st century.

James___ wrote:
Americans told my father to go back to where he came from. I wish he did. I would've had a better life. I could've had a family.

James___ wrote:
Stick to the issue

James___ wrote:
and quit being a racist pig

James___ wrote:
We all know Americans are just better. Ask ITN.

James___ wrote:
And ITN, when you say Americans are better. I will agree with you.

James___ wrote:
Harvey, it's written about in books, American and in the Philippines?

James___ wrote:
$10 and she has to do anything you want. Want a 12 year old girl? Had American shipmates who said yes. They bragged about it.

James___ wrote:
Why US bases were closed in the Philippines.

James___ wrote:
I can also point out the book by a Navy pilot who mentions things that would be illegal in the US.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Does Venus cause all this hatred for America, by self-proclaimed foreigners? It's really simple, don't stay in places you don't like. Must be something good about our country, they choose to stay, and whine about not getting more free stuff. It's pretty much like anywhere in the world, you have to work a little, to get a little. Work a lot, get a lot. The key is to balance your wants, with how much work you are willing to put into it. No country is perfect, you just have to figure out which on offers the most, of what you want an need. Our government is a mess, always has been, but at least we get some say in many things, and don't get shot for saying it.

America isn't perfect, it has it's problems, like everywhere else you can go to live, but the benefits greatly outweigh the faults. Why waste your life complaining, when you could be appreciating all you have available to you? Maybe ICE should pick a few stray anti-patriotic, and deport them too.

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Does Venus cause all this hatred for America, by self-proclaimed foreigners? It's really simple, don't stay in places you don't like. Must be something good about our country, they choose to stay, and whine about not getting more free stuff. It's pretty much like anywhere in the world, you have to work a little, to get a little. Work a lot, get a lot. The key is to balance your wants, with how much work you are willing to put into it. No country is perfect, you just have to figure out which on offers the most, of what you want an need. Our government is a mess, always has been, but at least we get some say in many things, and don't get shot for saying it.

America isn't perfect, it has it's problems, like everywhere else you can go to live, but the benefits greatly outweigh the faults. Why waste your life complaining, when you could be appreciating all you have available to you? Maybe ICE should pick a few stray anti-patriotic, and deport them too.

Nice idea, but to where would they deport them to?

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Does Venus cause all this hatred for America, by self-proclaimed foreigners? It's really simple, don't stay in places you don't like. Must be something good about our country, they choose to stay, and whine about not getting more free stuff. It's pretty much like anywhere in the world, you have to work a little, to get a little. Work a lot, get a lot. The key is to balance your wants, with how much work you are willing to put into it. No country is perfect, you just have to figure out which on offers the most, of what you want an need. Our government is a mess, always has been, but at least we get some say in many things, and don't get shot for saying it.

America isn't perfect, it has it's problems, like everywhere else you can go to live, but the benefits greatly outweigh the faults. Why waste your life complaining, when you could be appreciating all you have available to you? Maybe ICE should pick a few stray anti-patriotic, and deport them too.

Nice idea, but to where would they deport them to?

Does it really matter? California is closest...

HarveyH55 wrote:
Does Venus cause all this hatred for America, by self-proclaimed foreigners? It's really simple, don't stay in places you don't like. Must be something good about our country, they choose to stay, and whine about not getting more free stuff. It's pretty much like anywhere in the world, you have to work a little, to get a little. Work a lot, get a lot. The key is to balance your wants, with how much work you are willing to put into it. No country is perfect, you just have to figure out which on offers the most, of what you want an need. Our government is a mess, always has been, but at least we get some say in many things, and don't get shot for saying it.

America isn't perfect, it has it's problems, like everywhere else you can go to live, but the benefits greatly outweigh the faults. Why waste your life complaining, when you could be appreciating all you have available to you? Maybe ICE should pick a few stray anti-patriotic, and deport them too.

James___ wrote: People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it.

James___ wrote: You're not that bright. [ snip ] ... Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

James___ wrote: I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.

James___ wrote: I served in the armed forces and you didn't.

James___ wrote: Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it.

If you choose to gamble in Vegas, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you live with the rewards if you win and you endure the losses if you lose. The casino is not required to compensate you if you lose nor are you obligated to compensate the casino if you win.

If you choose to request a surgeon operate on you, you sign papers acknowledging the risks of each procedure and yes, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you get better if the procedure is successful and you endure the physical setbacks if it is not. The doctor is not required to compensate you if there is a problem nor are you obligated surrender a part of your body if the operation is a success.

... now you are about due for some projection ...

James___ wrote: You're not that bright. [ snip ] ... Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

James__, are you a bigot who projects his bigotry onto the objects of his bigotry? Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you understand how anonymous message boards work. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I served in the armed forces and you didn't.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you have any unfinished projecting you need to get off your chest. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Does Venus cause all this hatred for America, by self-proclaimed foreigners? It's really simple, don't stay in places you don't like. Must be something good about our country, they choose to stay, and whine about not getting more free stuff. It's pretty much like anywhere in the world, you have to work a little, to get a little. Work a lot, get a lot. The key is to balance your wants, with how much work you are willing to put into it. No country is perfect, you just have to figure out which on offers the most, of what you want an need. Our government is a mess, always has been, but at least we get some say in many things, and don't get shot for saying it.

America isn't perfect, it has it's problems, like everywhere else you can go to live, but the benefits greatly outweigh the faults. Why waste your life complaining, when you could be appreciating all you have available to you? Maybe ICE should pick a few stray anti-patriotic, and deport them too.

People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it. If I don't then it will be my fault if your cost for health insurance goes up.
You're not that bright. But people in here will defend you saying that literacy doesn't matter. Black Sabbath had a concert tour called Mob Rules. That's the US anymore. Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

And Harvey, since ITN agrees with you, I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.
I served in the armed forces and you didn't. Yet you fault me for wanting surgery so I can have a life. Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

And Harvey, people haven't let me have a life because of my service connected hearing loss. I'm told because the US is a capitalist country that means exploiting people rather than working with them. I'll be able to show where one person told me they couldn't work with me on an invention but if I built it and it worked that he would sue me. So it is possible I will leave my country one day and if I do, it will be because of my service connected hearing loss and nothing else.

James___ wrote:
Anymore Harvey I'll just think that you're fascist. After all, if I don't support your party then I am in the wrong country. It's funny because no one would know if I was 1/2 Norwegian if I didn't tell them. Yet I have been told at work that I have a job because I work hard and tolerate abuse from people with normal hearing.
And as ITN agreed with you, people stay where they are because they know they have it good.
And to think I thought Native Americans stayed on the "Res" because it's difficult escaping poverty.

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it.

If you choose to gamble in Vegas, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you live with the rewards if you win and you endure the losses if you lose. The casino is not required to compensate you if you lose nor are you obligated to compensate the casino if you win.

If you choose to request a surgeon operate on you, you sign papers acknowledging the risks of each procedure and yes, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you get better if the procedure is successful and you endure the physical setbacks if it is not. The doctor is not required to compensate you if there is a problem nor are you obligated surrender a part of your body if the operation is a success.

... now you are about due for some projection ...

James___ wrote: You're not that bright. [ snip ] ... Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

James__, are you a bigot who projects his bigotry onto the objects of his bigotry? Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you understand how anonymous message boards work. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I served in the armed forces and you didn't.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you have any unfinished projecting you need to get off your chest. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

And yet Harvey can speak for himself but you support him because he is right. I guess you and ITN really do support President Trump. This has become a Republican Party forum.

James___ wrote:
Harvey, your friends are making this personal. I am curious, do you like women? Family? I let one woman I know that because Americans are rich, people get in the way. How I know ITN and IBdaMann are well off, they bored. Nothing to do. Got money but no life.

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it.

If you choose to gamble in Vegas, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you live with the rewards if you win and you endure the losses if you lose. The casino is not required to compensate you if you lose nor are you obligated to compensate the casino if you win.

If you choose to request a surgeon operate on you, you sign papers acknowledging the risks of each procedure and yes, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you get better if the procedure is successful and you endure the physical setbacks if it is not. The doctor is not required to compensate you if there is a problem nor are you obligated surrender a part of your body if the operation is a success.

... now you are about due for some projection ...

James___ wrote: You're not that bright. [ snip ] ... Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

James__, are you a bigot who projects his bigotry onto the objects of his bigotry? Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you understand how anonymous message boards work. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I served in the armed forces and you didn't.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you have any unfinished projecting you need to get off your chest. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

And yet Harvey can speak for himself but you support him because he is right. I guess you and ITN really do support President Trump. This has become a Republican Party forum.

No, this is a forum about debating climate.

James___ wrote:
Harvey, your friends are making this personal. I am curious, do you like women? Family? I let one woman I know that because Americans are rich, people get in the way. How I know ITN and IBdaMann are well off, they bored. Nothing to do. Got money but no life.

It is YOU that taking things personal. It is YOU that is making up story after story about your personal so-called medical condition. Inversion fallacy.

You're a liar, James.

James___ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James___ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

James___ wrote: People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it.

If you choose to gamble in Vegas, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you live with the rewards if you win and you endure the losses if you lose. The casino is not required to compensate you if you lose nor are you obligated to compensate the casino if you win.

If you choose to request a surgeon operate on you, you sign papers acknowledging the risks of each procedure and yes, you have to live with the results of each risk you take, i.e. you get better if the procedure is successful and you endure the physical setbacks if it is not. The doctor is not required to compensate you if there is a problem nor are you obligated surrender a part of your body if the operation is a success.

... now you are about due for some projection ...

James___ wrote: You're not that bright. [ snip ] ... Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

James__, are you a bigot who projects his bigotry onto the objects of his bigotry? Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you understand how anonymous message boards work. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: I served in the armed forces and you didn't.

Well, I guess that answers that. Now the next question is whether you have any unfinished projecting you need to get off your chest. Let's see ...

James___ wrote: Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

And yet Harvey can speak for himself but you support him because he is right. I guess you and ITN really do support President Trump. This has become a Republican Party forum.

No, this is a forum about debating climate.

James___ wrote:
Harvey, your friends are making this personal. I am curious, do you like women? Family? I let one woman I know that because Americans are rich, people get in the way. How I know ITN and IBdaMann are well off, they bored. Nothing to do. Got money but no life.

It is YOU that taking things personal. It is YOU that is making up story after story about your personal so-called medical condition. Inversion fallacy.

You're a liar, James.

It's sad that other people have to speak for Harvey. Is he your girlfriend? Are you and IBdaMann sweet on him?

James___ wrote:
I just find it odd that a Native American would support someone who supports Trump.

James___ wrote:
The 3 of you do have something else in common. It's a control issue. You have no self control and aren't in control. Why is that so important?

James___ wrote:
You must feel threatened by me.

James___ wrote:
Maybe next President Trump will say that Native Americans live in Mexico because they were displaced by immigrants from Mongolia and China according to Native American folklore.

James___ wrote:
Thing is ITN, you and IBdaMann are no different, I would say typical Americans but that wouldn't be true. You're typical of the bottom of the pile. Don't have nothing and don't want to see someone else have something. There's a lot of people like you in the US. As for Harvey, he might want to consider why he's in his situation.

James___ wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Does Venus cause all this hatred for America, by self-proclaimed foreigners? It's really simple, don't stay in places you don't like. Must be something good about our country, they choose to stay, and whine about not getting more free stuff. It's pretty much like anywhere in the world, you have to work a little, to get a little. Work a lot, get a lot. The key is to balance your wants, with how much work you are willing to put into it. No country is perfect, you just have to figure out which on offers the most, of what you want an need. Our government is a mess, always has been, but at least we get some say in many things, and don't get shot for saying it.

America isn't perfect, it has it's problems, like everywhere else you can go to live, but the benefits greatly outweigh the faults. Why waste your life complaining, when you could be appreciating all you have available to you? Maybe ICE should pick a few stray anti-patriotic, and deport them too.

People like you do Harvey. Like you said, when a surgeon made a serious mistake, I am supposed to live with it. If I don't then it will be my fault if your cost for health insurance goes up.
You're not that bright. But people in here will defend you saying that literacy doesn't matter. Black Sabbath had a concert tour called Mob Rules. That's the US anymore. Like you say, you have more important things to do than actually learn something about what you're talking about. Just too d@mned lazy.

And Harvey, since ITN agrees with you, I guess that's why Native Americans stay on the rest, right? Life is that good. How do we know Harvey? Because you said life is that good. But to me Harvey you're nothing more than a bigot.
I served in the armed forces and you didn't. Yet you fault me for wanting surgery so I can have a life. Your illiteracy shows. You take no pride in being an American. You simply expect an easy life because that's all you've ever had. You don't know what hard work is. You know those words but little about what it actually is. Like you said, you're a man of leisurely pursuits.

And Harvey, people haven't let me have a life because of my service connected hearing loss. I'm told because the US is a capitalist country that means exploiting people rather than working with them. I'll be able to show where one person told me they couldn't work with me on an invention but if I built it and it worked that he would sue me. So it is possible I will leave my country one day and if I do, it will be because of my service connected hearing loss and nothing else.