Is the sun toxic?

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
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I'm assuming that's how God makes his planetary glass enclosures, you know, through recycling in that way. That's why He has to have separation from California because they would have Him arrested for the bon fire.

Between Christians and scientists, God you are sooo much like them. Anymore though I do not believe in giving information away fro free in the hopes that someone (a person) can accept reality.
It is as I have mentioned in this forum before, history has recorded the fact that when Rome fell it had cooled, the Renaissance period warmed followed by a time of "significant" cooling.
To disagree with recorded history makes what you say suspect to being untruthful, not correct, a fabrication or falsehood. As to why or what anything means? Not my problem or concern.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations. This is what helps farmers to know what to expect when it comes to planting seed.
And yet in England it is now warm enough to grow grapes for wine. This is where having an understanding of what range in temperatures can be expected helps to know what agricultural production is possible. That allows an economy to keep functioning even if long term changes in a temperature range occur.

IBdaMann wrote:

James_ wrote: We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations.

How do you know whether the temperature has fluctuated if you don't know the temperature?

You mentioned farmers. Farmers measure the temperature at their farms to within their own individually determined acceptable margins of error. Farmers know when the temperature of their farms fluctuates ... within their own margins of error.

There is no one who knows the temperature of the earth to within any usable margin of error. Therefore, there is no way to understand any such fluctuations.

IBdaMann wrote:

James_ wrote: We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations.

How do you know whether the temperature has fluctuated if you don't know the temperature?

You mentioned farmers. Farmers measure the temperature at their farms to within their own individually determined acceptable margins of error. Farmers know when the temperature of their farms fluctuates ... within their own margins of error.

There is no one who knows the temperature of the earth to within any usable margin of error. Therefore, there is no way to understand any such fluctuations.

James_ wrote: You really don't understand this subject, do you?

James_ wrote:That's one aspect of calculus that I guess you don't understand.

James_ wrote: It can demonstrate change over time.

James_ wrote:And with going by what the IPCC said in 2001 it seems that ozone depletion is responsible for the warming that has been happening since about 1978.

James_ wrote: And you guys will say that the ozone layer doesn't matter when it's known that it does.

James_ wrote: There is a farmer in Montana who knows that I think seawater desalination needs to be improved to support farmers.

James_ wrote: Aquifers and water tables are going dry in the western U.S.

James_ wrote: and as for drought, if the warming continues

James_ wrote: And I think if I explain why ice ages and interglacials happen then that understanding would help to understand why there are warm and cool periods in the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere.

James_ wrote:The problem is when the IPCC blames everything on CO2 they really hurt science.

The radicalization of identity which makes cultures resistant to any beneficial influence from outside is worrying enough; but no less perilous is the slavish conformity of cultures, or at least of key aspects of them, to cultural models deriving from the Western world.

James_ wrote: Although I think once I can get my ileostomy I might just volunteer at a wildlife sanctuary.

James_ wrote:By the way, with the new Bessler Wheel build that I'm doing, that'll probably provide carbon neutral energy

James_ wrote: And that would be more about my just wanting to have a life than changing or saving the world.

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
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I'm assuming that's how God makes his planetary glass enclosures, you know, through recycling in that way. That's why He has to have separation from California because they would have Him arrested for the bon fire.

Between Christians and scientists, God you are sooo much like them. Anymore though I do not believe in giving information away fro free in the hopes that someone (a person) can accept reality.
It is as I have mentioned in this forum before, history has recorded the fact that when Rome fell it had cooled, the Renaissance period warmed followed by a time of "significant" cooling.
To disagree with recorded history makes what you say suspect to being untruthful, not correct, a fabrication or falsehood. As to why or what anything means? Not my problem or concern.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations.

James_ wrote:
This is what helps farmers to know what to expect when it comes to planting seed.

James_ wrote:
And yet in England it is now warm enough to grow grapes for wine.

This is where having an understanding of what range in temperatures can be expected helps to know what agricultural production is possible. That allows an economy to keep functioning even if long term changes in a temperature range occur.

HarveyH55 wrote:

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
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I'm assuming that's how God makes his planetary glass enclosures, you know, through recycling in that way. That's why He has to have separation from California because they would have Him arrested for the bon fire.

Between Christians and scientists, God you are sooo much like them. Anymore though I do not believe in giving information away fro free in the hopes that someone (a person) can accept reality.
It is as I have mentioned in this forum before, history has recorded the fact that when Rome fell it had cooled, the Renaissance period warmed followed by a time of "significant" cooling.
To disagree with recorded history makes what you say suspect to being untruthful, not correct, a fabrication or falsehood. As to why or what anything means? Not my problem or concern.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations. This is what helps farmers to know what to expect when it comes to planting seed.
And yet in England it is now warm enough to grow grapes for wine. This is where having an understanding of what range in temperatures can be expected helps to know what agricultural production is possible. That allows an economy to keep functioning even if long term changes in a temperature range occur.

Yeah, Florida's temperature fluctuated big-time Tuesday night. I had the AC running Tuesday, which I hadn't needed for a few weeks, but was doing yard work, sweating something awful, need to get my core temperature down. Wednesday morning, it was freezing cold, 50 F. Had to wear fukking long pants, and a shirt, in Florida. Friday, almost noon, and it's almost 70 F outside. Little chilly for just shorts, not bad for working though. Probably would be nice, if the Norwegian Jetstream wad blowing so hard.

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
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I'm assuming that's how God makes his planetary glass enclosures, you know, through recycling in that way. That's why He has to have separation from California because they would have Him arrested for the bon fire.

Between Christians and scientists, God you are sooo much like them. Anymore though I do not believe in giving information away fro free in the hopes that someone (a person) can accept reality.
It is as I have mentioned in this forum before, history has recorded the fact that when Rome fell it had cooled, the Renaissance period warmed followed by a time of "significant" cooling.
To disagree with recorded history makes what you say suspect to being untruthful, not correct, a fabrication or falsehood. As to why or what anything means? Not my problem or concern.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations. This is what helps farmers to know what to expect when it comes to planting seed.
And yet in England it is now warm enough to grow grapes for wine. This is where having an understanding of what range in temperatures can be expected helps to know what agricultural production is possible. That allows an economy to keep functioning even if long term changes in a temperature range occur.

Yeah, Florida's temperature fluctuated big-time Tuesday night. I had the AC running Tuesday, which I hadn't needed for a few weeks, but was doing yard work, sweating something awful, need to get my core temperature down. Wednesday morning, it was freezing cold, 50 F. Had to wear fukking long pants, and a shirt, in Florida. Friday, almost noon, and it's almost 70 F outside. Little chilly for just shorts, not bad for working though. Probably would be nice, if the Norwegian Jetstream wad blowing so hard.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of Florida.

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

James_ wrote: We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations.

How do you know whether the temperature has fluctuated if you don't know the temperature?

You mentioned farmers. Farmers measure the temperature at their farms to within their own individually determined acceptable margins of error. Farmers know when the temperature of their farms fluctuates ... within their own margins of error.

There is no one who knows the temperature of the earth to within any usable margin of error. Therefore, there is no way to understand any such fluctuations.

You really don't understand this subject, do you? That's one aspect of calculus that I guess you don't understand. It can demonstrate change over time.

James_ wrote:
And with going by what the IPCC said in 2001 it seems that ozone depletion is responsible for the warming that has been happening since about 1978.

James_ wrote:
And you guys will say that the ozone layer doesn't matter when it's known that it does.

James_ wrote:
There is a farmer in Montana who knows that I think seawater desalination needs to be improved to support farmers.

James_ wrote:
Aquifers and water tables are going dry in the western U.S. and as for drought, if the warming continues then chances are that areas in the western U.S. will continue to experience drought.

James_ wrote:
And I think if I explain why ice ages and interglacials happen

James_ wrote:
then that understanding would help to understand why there are warm and cool periods in the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere.

James_ wrote:
The problem is when the IPCC blames everything on CO2 they really hurt science.

James_ wrote:
Although I think once I can get my ileostomy I might just volunteer at a wildlife sanctuary. By the way, with the new Bessler Wheel build that I'm doing, that'll probably provide carbon neutral energy for hydrogen generation for cars as well as electricity for electric cars. And that would be more about my just wanting to have a life than changing or saving the world.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

James_ wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

James_ wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
[
I'm assuming that's how God makes his planetary glass enclosures, you know, through recycling in that way. That's why He has to have separation from California because they would have Him arrested for the bon fire.

Between Christians and scientists, God you are sooo much like them. Anymore though I do not believe in giving information away fro free in the hopes that someone (a person) can accept reality.
It is as I have mentioned in this forum before, history has recorded the fact that when Rome fell it had cooled, the Renaissance period warmed followed by a time of "significant" cooling.
To disagree with recorded history makes what you say suspect to being untruthful, not correct, a fabrication or falsehood. As to why or what anything means? Not my problem or concern.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

We don't need to know the temperature of the Earth. What we need to understand are temperature fluctuations. This is what helps farmers to know what to expect when it comes to planting seed.
And yet in England it is now warm enough to grow grapes for wine. This is where having an understanding of what range in temperatures can be expected helps to know what agricultural production is possible. That allows an economy to keep functioning even if long term changes in a temperature range occur.

Yeah, Florida's temperature fluctuated big-time Tuesday night. I had the AC running Tuesday, which I hadn't needed for a few weeks, but was doing yard work, sweating something awful, need to get my core temperature down. Wednesday morning, it was freezing cold, 50 F. Had to wear fukking long pants, and a shirt, in Florida. Friday, almost noon, and it's almost 70 F outside. Little chilly for just shorts, not bad for working though. Probably would be nice, if the Norwegian Jetstream wad blowing so hard.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of Florida.

True enough, but it was still unnaturally cold, regardless.

HarveyH55 wrote:True enough, but it was still unnaturally cold, regardless.

HarveyH55 wrote:
We don't usually plunge 35-40 degrees over-night, and stay cold for the whole following day like that. We also tend to get rain, before a cold spell. Tuesday, was just a normal day, high 80s/low 90s. Not really hot, and humidity has been low since the hurricane. 50 F isn't really cold either, just needed to wear more clothes. Figured some of the northern states got hit pretty hard by the cold front, and likely did get some frost...

Just find it amusing that people still hyping rising global temperature, while we are still getting the cold spells. Got a hunch climate change is going to be a hard-sell item this winter. Hope most of the northerners have wood-burning stoves, an not relying on their solar farms and windmills.

IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris, please watch THIS VIDEO.

You didn't answer my question when I asked it the first time, so I'll ask it again with respect to this video, which is simply the view (facing downward) from the camera fixed to the space shuttles main tank, which separates somewhere above 70 miles altitude.

Please focus on the question: At what point do you claim the video transitions from real to fake?