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Is our world condemned?08-01-2014 01:08
JakeWall
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My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world, I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs. I Think that life is life and death is death, it is the start and the end. Science could be a lie, but so could religion. Their are racists, homophobics and most governments...These are the people that that we face. Most Governments want money, in their opinion no crisis can be solved without money...I say NO!, we must stand and say what must we said.
People know the problems we face but deny to them selfs of the impact it has and will!.

My question to you as a community, is our world condemned for future generations? and will there ever be truth in our world, nor we speak as singles but why not as a whole?.
08-01-2014 06:28
discgolfdave
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Hi Jake,

I understand how you feel. Every time we turn around there are people telling us the end of the world is coming. This is how it is, this is how it has been, and this is how it will always be.

Will the earth be around for future generations? Nobody knows the answer to this question. Maybe that is why we fear our future so much. Like you said, we can see life and we can see death. And there is much that raises our concerns.

Will there ever be truth in our world? There is a saying, "like beauty, truth is in the eye of the beholder". We all have our own experiences, our own beliefs, our own set of mental filters. We all interpret the world a little differently. The important thing is that we trust in ourselves to do this interpreting, not others. I like to think there is a little piece of divinity in all of us, a little moral compass, and it is our job to find it and go with it. Inside, you can feel what is right and what is wrong.

Others may have their own spin on the truth, their own experiences with which to relate, their own belief system from which to form judgments. And perhaps we all have our own version of the truth. We are not sheep and we shouldn't let ourselves get into that trap or else we will be fleeced for others benefits. But neither do we need to be wolves.

I can tell by your post that you have a good mind, you have curiosity, and you care not only for yourself but for future generations. You, and others like you, are the future of the world. And I must say, the future does not look bleak to me.

Science is our best attempt to deal objectively and universally with the question of what is the truth. We do our best through the scientific method to discover this, but we can only try to make sense out of what we can observe. What we can't observe is difficult to test or resolve. Our knowledge is limited but growing all the time because of people like you who strive to know the truth.

Though we may never all speak as a whole, perhaps most of us actually care for the whole. We all share this unique experience of life and death. As we look around we see that life is a struggle. But I hope this will not keep you from going forth confidently and exerting your influence. To do any less is to give up, and that is not typical of human nature. Thus we continue the struggle and, hopefully, find happiness in our quest and in our ultimate human camaraderie. And hopefully there will be enough agreement on the truth to illuminate our path.
19-08-2014 03:18
just sayin
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don't worry man..this earth could shake the human race off it's back like a pack of fleas and wouldn't skip a beat....try to think for yourself...not what your school teacher or media feeds you
RE: Is our world condemned? yes somebodies gonna get it!13-10-2014 16:19
oldendays
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Wow Jake I can only imagine your Braniac Parent. People will always have different opinions , debate is what keeps the Arguments going until Science finally agrees with someone. The true god of this world Jesus Christ demands that you Find Faith in him through the Bible, and the early church accounts of Israeli people witnessing his Birth in Bethlehem and Death in Calvary and Resurrection. That is why God will never prove himself to this world again. Because he is GOD , no one else can come forward and SHOW HIS GODLY POWER TO MANKIND. Because there are none. People must Believe in the Christmas birth to be saved.

The Devil Created Darwinism a belief that does not allow GOD to exist.. and Science likes that very much. Science does not lean on any Faith. After Darwinism ..then came Global Warming that blames Natural Disasters on Mankind releasing too many Carbons and melting glaciers causing Natural Disasters. Natural Disasters were mentioned in the Bible as Acts of Evil. That's why Darwinism and Global Warming are hand in hand. Neither believe in God.

I don't believe that Global Warming is entirely from humans releasing too many carbons and melting Glaciers warming the earth. I have been blogging on this and making websites since 2009.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLyKkoVXgFU

I don't believe Chemtrails are a Government Conspiracy or Global Warming. They are caused by the Devil flying alien aircraft cloaked as human aviation vehicles , leaving these chemtrails that have mystified the World. You would have to listen to my youtube video for that answer.

At some point in time ,after all the Jobs go away the planet will face doom. Likely a Nuclear war. Any earth after that will be ruled by Evil for the mostpart. I am pretty weak and writing from my electric wheelchair that people don't notice or that would add a lot to my Drama.

But hey have fun in High School!
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25-10-2014 16:34
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JakeWall wrote:
My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world, I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs.


The first thing you need to do is to realize that you are not an atheist. You are a member of the Church of Global Warming, a fanatical and dangerous religion that pretends its wacky dogma is science.

You are regrettably stuck in one of those bubbles and you should punch a hole in it and step out.

When you get a chance, ask any of your Global Warming Church ministers to show you the scientific (falsifiable) Global Warming model (that isn't false) and bring it here for public discussion in this thread. Don't worry, there is no such model because there is no Global Warming science, because Global Warming is nothing but a wacky religion.
27-11-2014 05:31
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JakeWall wrote:
My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.


My name is Abraham. I'm 60. If you'd like to make 15, I'd suggest not putting your full name on the internet.

JakeWall wrote:
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.


They don't realize the impact their daily activities have on our environment? ( ;-) ) I'm not sure I'd call that being stuck in a bubble. We all have a strong tendency to ignore or reject out of hand information that doesn't concur with our current notions and pay close attention to information which supports them.

JakeWall wrote:
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world


That's because most of them believe that to be true.

JakeWall wrote:
I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs.


I am also an atheist. I think it might be more accurate to say that we respect the right of all to worship as they see fit. A belief that no gods exist is about as disrespectful towards religion as it is possible to be.

JakeWall wrote:
I Think that life is life and death is death, it is the start and the end.


Okay.

JakeWall wrote:
Science could be a lie, but so could religion.


That's a very broad brush. It is extremely unlikely - unless you wish to suggest that humans are incapable of any use of logic or reason - that all of science is a lie. Religion, however; the belief in a supernatural deity or deities, is completely rejected by atheism. From an atheist perspective, any claim that a deity or deities exist is at least mistaken.

JakeWall wrote:
Their are racists, homophobics and most governments...These are the people that that we face.


We face all of humanity. We face all life on this planet

JakeWall wrote:
Most Governments want money, in their opinion no crisis can be solved without money...I say NO!, we must stand and say what must we said.


All governments require money to operate. To what are you saying no? What is it that you believe must be said?

JakeWall wrote:
People know the problems we face but deny to them selfs of the impact it has and will!.


Most people do know that we face a problem. Some - many here - believe that we do NOT face a problem.

JakeWall wrote:
My question to you as a community, is our world condemned for future generations?


There is no one here who can speak for this community. This community would have a very divided voice.

Human civilization is going to suffer the effects of global warming for quite some time - at least three or four human generations. Most likely we will do more adaptation than correction, but this is not the end of the human race.

JakeWall wrote: and will there ever be truth in our world, nor we speak as singles but why not as a whole?.



Why don't you come back when you can give us more talking and less diatribe.
29-09-2015 15:41
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Can you imagine if the ice age had been in our day ... the media hype, the blame, and so on.

Instead, it just was what it was, the earth is so much bigger than us, and not everything we do can control it for better or for worse.
29-09-2015 22:56
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Abraham3 wrote: I am also an atheist. I think it might be more accurate to say that we respect the right of all to worship as they see fit. A belief that no gods exist is about as disrespectful towards religion as it is possible to be.

The most threatening thing to the sensitivities of the devoutly religious is the assertion that their unfalsifiable dogma is false. A belief that no gods exist is only threatening to those dogmas based on gods. The Global Warming faith, on the other hand, claims to be "science" and confuses its worshipers into thinking they are "atheists" which causes them to become infuriated when it is pointed out that their dogma runs counter to science and that their faith is just another religion.

Abraham3 wrote: From an atheist perspective, any claim that a deity or deities exist is at least mistaken.

Not true. An atheist simply has no position on the matter. An atheist has no theism. What's your position on purgatory? You probably have no opinion because you don't have that theism.

An active belief that no gods exist is itself a theism and is not atheism.

Abraham3 wrote: Most people do know that we face a problem. Some - many here - believe that we do NOT face a problem.

Interesting. What "problem" do you know we face but of which I seem to be unaware and that many here believe we don't?

How did you get this "knowledge"? Was it divinely inspired?

Abraham3 wrote:Human civilization is going to suffer the effects of global warming for quite some time - at least three or four human generations.

Very interesting. Would you mind elaborating on these specific "effects"? How, exactly, are we going to "suffer"? How did you arrive at the "three or four human generations" figure?

This is sounding very much like a brand of theism to me.


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11-05-2023 09:09
ellisael
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I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at
11-05-2023 09:09
ellisael
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I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at
11-05-2023 09:09
ellisael
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I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at
11-05-2023 19:15
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ellisael wrote:I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at

I notice that one of the books is titled "Physical Geology," making me wonder if there is any other kind.
12-05-2023 03:38
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IBdaMann wrote:
ellisael wrote:I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at

I notice that one of the books is titled "Physical Geology," making me wonder if there is any other kind.


Meta-Physical Geology... The study of moraines, Libyan Desert Glass, contaminated gold...
12-05-2023 17:28
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JakeWall wrote:
My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world, I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs. I Think that life is life and death is death, it is the start and the end. Science could be a lie, but so could religion. Their are racists, homophobics and most governments...These are the people that that we face. Most Governments want money, in their opinion no crisis can be solved without money...I say NO!, we must stand and say what must we said.
People know the problems we face but deny to them selfs of the impact it has and will!.

My question to you as a community, is our world condemned for future generations? and will there ever be truth in our world, nor we speak as singles but why not as a whole?.

Welcome to the forum, Jake.

Coming from an 'old fart' like me...

I've found that most people tend to think that everyone is like what they themselves are. In other words, people tend to project what they are upon others around them. This is what tends to drive generational differences.

All you've known is what you've seen during your 14 years. You have never seen cassette tapes, yet they were a big part of society, even creating phrases and expressions we use in conversation to this day. Indeed, this is true for phrases, expressions, and even words that were coined hundreds of years ago in circumstances far different than what people have experienced today.

For example:
At one time, slavery was considered acceptable, even normal. To hear someone had slaves didn't raise much of an eyebrow, though it may have caused distaste. Today, the thought is so totally repugnant, people find it hard to imagine a time when the existence of slaves in the U.S. was considered a common occurrence.

At one time, people had no cars. They rode horses or used carriages drawn by horses to get anywhere (or they just walked for miles!). Even trains didn't exist yet. Today, it's hard to imagine a life like that. It's like talking about some fictional story or the scenario in a video game.

At one time, the local wars that occurred across Europe caused problems for people, but they would pass quickly, and people got back to their own lives trying to make a living. Then came WW2, which devastated much of Europe, and it seemed the world was coming to an end. It ended, of course, and blue sky opened again, but now we live under the threat of nuclear annihilation. War simply got too costly to wage on those levels. It's hard to imagine a time before the nuclear bomb, or living through something like the Black Plague, which killed half the population of Europe.

Even with the Covid fear mongering, claiming 2% dead (by some estimates), it was nothing like the days of the Black Death decimating Europe. It's hard to imagine living through a time like that.

At each time, people asked the same question. Will there ever be truth in the world? Is this the end?

One way or another, the world will go on. Sure, there will be some changes. There always is. That is how it goes. Some changes will be uncomfortable or may even change whole societies, but it is normal. Life goes on.

People have an amazing capacity to learn to cope with these changes. They've learned how to live and even prosper in everything from equatorial climates to the wastelands of Antarctica. We can ship stuff door to door overnight almost anywhere in the world. The internet itself now ties people together like never before.

It wasn't always like this. Life goes on. Maybe not the way one expects it, but life goes on.


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13-05-2023 04:55
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ellisael wrote:
I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at

There is no science in any of these books.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
15-05-2023 05:11
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HarveyH55 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
ellisael wrote:I feel proud that conversations are still a part of intellectual discourse. Check out some these wonderful Earth Science for a concise understanding of where the conversation is at

I notice that one of the books is titled "Physical Geology," making me wonder if there is any other kind.


Meta-Physical Geology... The study of moraines, Libyan Desert Glass, contaminated gold...


My AI chat GPT told me Libyan desert glass is evidence of extra terrestrials


That was the best I could get out of it...




https://uccastandoff12424.blogspot.com/2024/01/this-blog-post-is-about-relationship.html
15-05-2023 05:22
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JakeWall wrote:
My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world, I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs. I Think that life is life and death is death, it is the start and the end. Science could be a lie, but so could religion. Their are racists, homophobics and most governments...These are the people that that we face. Most Governments want money, in their opinion no crisis can be solved without money...I say NO!, we must stand and say what must we said.
People know the problems we face but deny to them selfs of the impact it has and will!.

My question to you as a community, is our world condemned for future generations? and will there ever be truth in our world, nor we speak as singles but why not as a whole?.


Hey Jake, Do you believe that the Sputnik satellite launch and the Moon landing were real?

Believe it or not, you can't win the climate change debate without addressing these events.

Hope to see more posts from you...




https://uccastandoff12424.blogspot.com/2024/01/this-blog-post-is-about-relationship.html
15-05-2023 08:53
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oldendays wrote:
The true god of this world Jesus Christ demands that you Find Faith in him through the Bible, and the early church accounts of Israeli people witnessing his Birth in Bethlehem and Death in Calvary and Resurrection


Understanding resurrection. Is that important to the climate change debate? One might say it is of ultimate importance...

However it might be an inappropriate discussion to have with a 14 year old.




https://uccastandoff12424.blogspot.com/2024/01/this-blog-post-is-about-relationship.html
15-05-2023 15:34
hayden jordan
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Why worry the human race will die out sooner or later. I understand you want to help newer generations but your life is the most important to you at the moment.

Also people need to be governed in some way and I'm a libertarian.

you can't just ask people to do something you have to make it look like their getting something or they need to do it because know one will listen to someone for no reason.

Lastly the government needs money to make schools, pay doctors, and supply food stamps.

The government is there to make sure people are not getting scammed. So wee need money and we need government.
15-05-2023 16:08
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hayden jordan wrote:Why worry the human race will die out sooner or later. I understand you want to help newer generations but your life is the most important to you at the moment.

You don't have children. Ask me how I know.

hayden jordan wrote: Also people need to be governed in some way and I'm a libertarian.

I'm thinking you don't fully understand what a Libertarian is. Ask me how I know.

hayden jordan wrote:Lastly the government needs money to make schools, pay doctors, and supply food stamps.

I'm thinking that you aren't a Libertarian. Ask me how I know.

hayden jordan wrote: The government is there to make sure people are not getting scammed.

My guess is that you don't really know what a Libertarian is. Feel free to ask me how I know.
15-05-2023 16:29
hayden jordan
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I do not have kids but i am a libertarian. A libertarian is someone who believes That the government should have less control on the people. Less not none
15-05-2023 17:08
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hayden jordan wrote:I do not have kids ...

I know.

hayden jordan wrote: ...but i am a libertarian.

No, you are not. You might possibly be registered with the Party but you do not embody Libertarian principles.

hayden jordan wrote:A libertarian is someone who believes That the government should have less control on the people. Less not none

A Libertarian is far more specific about that, not ambiguous. A Libertarian believes that he has a right to be left alone by the government, not that he has some sort of need to be "governed."

Your previous wording is that of a socialist who approves of a tyrannical government, but one that should be less draconian than it currently is with the stormtroopers stationed at intersections, shopping centers and other public places.
23-05-2026 20:12
Im a BM
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October, 2014, IBdaMann's initial assault at climate-debate.com

He was just getting started.

There were many active members posting. Just go down from the first post of this thread..

"discgolfdave", "just sayin", and "olden days" got three replies to "JakeWall" before "IBdaMann" took his first shit on the thread.

"Abraham3" and "KierenK" followed, before "IBdaMann" dumped more troll manure on the discussion.

"ellisael" got a comment in before "IBdaMann" dropped another turd.

"HarveyH55" and "Into the Night" then got two replies in before "IBdaMann" blows another comment out of his ass.

"Spongy Iris" then joined the discussion.

There were TEN different members commenting on just this one thread.

"JakeWall" was hardly an alarmist warmazombie pushing for Big Government and Big Money solutions to address "climate change". He seemed pretty open to new information and ideas. "Science could be a lie, but so could religion.", said "JakeWall" in his first post

Many scientifically illiterate morons were in need of an attitude adjustment.

"You are a member of the Church of Global Warming, a fanatical and dangerous religion that pretends its wacky dogma is science." - IBdaMann


That pretty well sums it up, doesn't it?

"IBdaMann" saw right through "JakeWall" and his bullshit!

Finally, SOMEONE at climate-debate.com was going to start talking about real "science".

Not the wacky religious dogma that just PRETENDS to be "science".

"Watch out for trolls who hide behind word games.." - IBdaMann

Eleven years ago was still too soon for "IBdaMann" to clear out all the scientifically illiterate morons. Not by himself anyway. He would wait another year and then return to find his soulmate and comrade in the struggle.

Ten years ago, he returned at the time YARP (Yellow And Red Parrot), also known as "Into the Night" or "ITN" joined climate-debate.com

They became a power couple, and picked up a few disciples for their fanatical and dangerous WACKY RELIGION.

The Church of Thermodenial!

It didn't take long to drive all the scientists away, and almost everyone else, too.

The Church of Thermodenial built a Temple of Truth at the Internet discussion site known as climate-debate.com


More popular now than ever!

"Your religion is stupid." - IBdaMann

IBdaMann wrote:
JakeWall wrote:
My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world, I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs.


The first thing you need to do is to realize that you are not an atheist. You are a member of the Church of Global Warming, a fanatical and dangerous religion that pretends its wacky dogma is science.

You are regrettably stuck in one of those bubbles and you should punch a hole in it and step out.

When you get a chance, ask any of your Global Warming Church ministers to show you the scientific (falsifiable) Global Warming model (that isn't false) and bring it here for public discussion in this thread. Don't worry, there is no such model because there is no Global Warming science, because Global Warming is nothing but a wacky religion.

Edited on 23-05-2026 20:35
23-05-2026 20:43
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
....deleted whinining...

Whining is completely pointless, Robert.

Why don't you at least try to describe what is 'changing' in climate?


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Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
24-05-2026 07:17
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Into the Night wrote: Whining is completely pointless, Robert. Why don't you at least try to describe what is 'changing' in climate?

Robert doesn't know either. He, like tmiddles and countless others, were hoping you would teach him.
Edited on 24-05-2026 07:17
24-05-2026 09:49
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IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Whining is completely pointless, Robert. Why don't you at least try to describe what is 'changing' in climate?

Robert doesn't know either. He, like tmiddles and countless others, were hoping you would teach him.


Fine. I'll teach.

The Church of Global Cooling first got started when members of the Church of Green started spewing Doom and Gloom about particulates in the atmosphere blocking out the sun. Everything from coal to cars was blamed. This was also the days of the so-called 'acid rain' scare. Of course, any particulates are heavier than air and they fall out of the atmosphere on their own accord. Rain also washes such material out of the air.

The usual Marxist solutions were proposed, including banning coal and cars.

When all the predictions for the coming ice age failed to materialize, this religion changed it's name. Now claiming Global Warming, they started blaming carbon dioxide, and the usual coal and cars. The solution? Ban coal and cars. Funny how the name changes, but the message stays the same. This name change took place in the late 70's. This is also the time when cars first started requiring 'pollution control' devices. Added one by one, these devices added to the price of the car.

Predictions were always some 20 years out. Long enough to a 'proof' of Doom and Gloom without having to show it for 20 years. This religion first predicted the poles to completely melt by 1990. This melt was supposed to cause ocean levels to rise, and inundating coastlines.

A few nutjobs found out that carbon dioxide, when dissolved in water, can produce carbonic acid (about 1% of the carbon dioxide forms this acid in this bidirectional reaction).

Carbon dioxide will dissolve in water up to the partial pressure of carbon dioxide in the air. When carbon dioxide in the air decreases (it happens each summer as plants become more active), the water gives up it's excess carbon dioxide, and carbon acid decreases with it.

The Church of Global Warming is based in Los Angeles, SDTC, and therefore tends to become more active in the summer, when hot days are common. This religion almost completely ignores the southern hemisphere having winter at this time.

Big snow storms got in the way of the narrative, which claimed the globe was getting warmer (it's not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth). The Global Warming preaching was getting old as well. So the religion changed it's name once again.

Now they generally claim 'climate change'. Some use the term 'climate crisis'. This only shows the religion's lack of understanding of English, since climate is a subjective description only and has no quantity that can 'change'.

The use of the term 'climate crisis' never defines what this 'crisis' is, but it sounds good to the Doom and Gloom narrative.

The 'solution' remains the same: ban coal, ban cars.

Of course, everything from the same claim to melting polar ice (and much higher ocean levels), to the equatorial countercurrent oscillation (El Nino, La Nina), to occasional coral dieoffs due to water temperature changes in the area (so called coral 'bleaching'), to 'acid rain' (rain is normally acidic), to a lightning strike, to tornadoe activity, to hurricane activity, to volcanic eruptions, to being wealthy, are all blamed for 'climate change'.

The reason is simple. Marxists hate the successful capitalist. They hate the freedom of capitalism. They hate anyone that supports capitalism. The Church of Green stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The Church of Global Warming (now going by the name 'climate change'), stems from the Church of Green.

Well, the oceans haven't risen. The poles haven't melted. Coral and shellfish still live and grow normally. Whales, fish, and birds still travel the oceans. Cattle still graze in the pasture. Coal plants still operate. Cars are more popular than ever, and FADEC engines have made them extremely efficient and reliable. Multipoint fuel injection eliminates the cranky old carburetor in cars.

So there it is. The Church of Global Cooling/Warming/Change/Crisis/Whatever.the.hell.they.call.themselves.now. It's the same religion. It has the same 'solutions' regardless of the name. It routinely ignores theories of science and mathematics. This religion is fundamentalist in nature, and often uses the 'science' Magick Word to 'prove' itself True. Other Magick Words are 'feedback loop', 'tipping point', and 'irrefutable evidence'.


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Edited on 24-05-2026 09:52
24-05-2026 16:13
Im a BM
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Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Whining is completely pointless, Robert. Why don't you at least try to describe what is 'changing' in climate?

Robert doesn't know either. He, like tmiddles and countless others, were hoping you would teach him.


Fine. I'll teach.
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Meh.
24-05-2026 20:26
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Whining is completely pointless, Robert. Why don't you at least try to describe what is 'changing' in climate?

Robert doesn't know either. He, like tmiddles and countless others, were hoping you would teach him.


Fine. I'll teach.
(deleted attempt to be clever)


Meh.

I take it you're not impressed by the history of your religion.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

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24-05-2026 21:52
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Into the Night wrote:

Fine. I'll teach....

snipped...

The solution? Ban coal


Burning coal adds more weight in carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, than the oxygen it consumes.

(note: so does breathing)

(note for sealover/Im a BM: water added is irrelevant, cuz water sinks)

This added weight in gases puts more pressure on Heaven's glass, which is Earth's protective wind shield.

If the wind shield, Heaven, cracks, it lets in radiation from Universe, the kind which powers the Moon, Sun, and Stars. This may cause an extinction type of event, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs, the one that caused "The Great Biblical Flood."

We were lucky to get an early warning of this type of event in the Tunguska region of Russia, on 6/30/1908. The Tunguska blast was in the middle of nowhere, I'm not sure there were any recorded deaths of people.

People living quite far away from the blast's epicenter, in Siberia, reported all their windows shattering, being knocked off their chairs. They felt like their clothes were on fire.

Approx. 800 square miles of forest was incinerated and flattened.

The night skies glowed as far away as England, causing nighttime to appear as daytime.

The Tunguska region was home to a massive coal mining operation. No doubt, there were many coal seam fires caused during this mining operation.




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24-05-2026 21:58
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★★
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JakeWall wrote:
My name is Jake Wallace, I'm 14.
Many people are stuck in a bubble, They dont realize there daily activitys impact has on our enviroment.
You can get people saying that 'God' created our world, I'm a atheist but don't get me wrong I repect all religions as I would myself and my beliefs. I Think that life is life and death is death, it is the start and the end. Science could be a lie, but so could religion. Their are racists, homophobics and most governments...These are the people that that we face. Most Governments want money, in their opinion no crisis can be solved without money...I say NO!, we must stand and say what must we said.
People know the problems we face but deny to them selfs of the impact it has and will!.

My question to you as a community, is our world condemned for future generations? and will there ever be truth in our world, nor we speak as singles but why not as a whole?.


Now that you're 26, Jake, it's high time you learned the truth about the crucifixion and resurrection.

Shoot, maybe you're even 27 now, and you can join my forever 27 club.

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24-05-2026 23:23
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Burning coal adds more weight in carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, than the oxygen it consumes.

(note: so does breathing)

You seem to be forgetting the other half of the reaction, where carbon dioxide is combined with water to produce oxygen and carbon compounds (mostly carbohydrates).
Spongy Iris wrote:
(note for sealover/Im a BM: water added is irrelevant, cuz water sinks)

This added weight in gases puts more pressure on Heaven's glass, which is Earth's protective wind shield.

Enjoying the breezy day?
Spongy Iris wrote:
If the wind shield, Heaven, cracks, it lets in radiation from Universe, the kind which powers the Moon, Sun, and Stars. This may cause an extinction type of event, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs, the one that caused "The Great Biblical Flood."

The Moon is a reflective body.
The stars do produce energy in the form of cosmic rays and light that reaches the Earth.
The Sun is our closest star.

There is nothing to 'crack'. Sunlight reaches the Earth at all times.
Spongy Iris wrote:
We were lucky to get an early warning of this type of event in the Tunguska region of Russia, on 6/30/1908. The Tunguska blast was in the middle of nowhere, I'm not sure there were any recorded deaths of people.

Okay. This is random.

There were three recorded deaths and some thirty that are missing (presumed dead).

Spongy Iris wrote:
People living quite far away from the blast's epicenter, in Siberia, reported all their windows shattering, being knocked off their chairs. They felt like their clothes were on fire.

Approx. 800 square miles of forest was incinerated and flattened.

The night skies glowed as far away as England, causing nighttime to appear as daytime.

The impact WAS in Siberia. The glow seen in England was not that bright. It was caused by ionized particles coming off the meteor. Atmospheric pressure and heating caused the meteor to explode about 6 miles up (about 30,000 ft). There was therefore no crater, since none of the remains made it to the ground except as dust.

The meteor was apparently mostly nickel, copper, and iron, hence the bright light during heating and during the explosion. Nickel burns with a bright light, and copper puts a blue color in it. Burning iron is mostly sparks somewhat yellowish.

Spongy Iris wrote:
The Tunguska region was home to a massive coal mining operation. No doubt, there were many coal seam fires caused during this mining operation.

There was no coal mining in the region. If there were, far more deaths would've occurred from the meteor. Coal does not produce a blue-white light when it burns.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
24-05-2026 23:23
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Burning coal adds more weight in carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, than the oxygen it consumes.

(note: so does breathing)

You seem to be forgetting the other half of the reaction, where carbon dioxide is combined with water to produce oxygen and carbon compounds (mostly carbohydrates).
Spongy Iris wrote:
(note for sealover/Im a BM: water added is irrelevant, cuz water sinks)

This added weight in gases puts more pressure on Heaven's glass, which is Earth's protective wind shield.

Enjoying the breezy day?
Spongy Iris wrote:
If the wind shield, Heaven, cracks, it lets in radiation from Universe, the kind which powers the Moon, Sun, and Stars. This may cause an extinction type of event, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs, the one that caused "The Great Biblical Flood."

The Moon is a reflective body.
The stars do produce energy in the form of cosmic rays and light that reaches the Earth.
The Sun is our closest star.

There is nothing to 'crack'. Sunlight reaches the Earth at all times.
Spongy Iris wrote:
We were lucky to get an early warning of this type of event in the Tunguska region of Russia, on 6/30/1908. The Tunguska blast was in the middle of nowhere, I'm not sure there were any recorded deaths of people.

Okay. This is random.

There were three recorded deaths and some thirty that are missing (presumed dead).

Spongy Iris wrote:
People living quite far away from the blast's epicenter, in Siberia, reported all their windows shattering, being knocked off their chairs. They felt like their clothes were on fire.

Approx. 800 square miles of forest was incinerated and flattened.

The night skies glowed as far away as England, causing nighttime to appear as daytime.

The impact WAS in Siberia. The glow seen in England was not that bright. It was caused by ionized particles coming off the meteor. Atmospheric pressure and heating caused the meteor to explode about 6 miles up (about 30,000 ft). There was therefore no crater, since none of the remains made it to the ground except as dust.

The meteor was apparently mostly nickel, copper, and iron, hence the bright light during heating and during the explosion. Nickel burns with a bright light, and copper puts a blue color in it. Burning iron is mostly sparks somewhat yellowish.

Spongy Iris wrote:
The Tunguska region was home to a massive coal mining operation. No doubt, there were many coal seam fires caused during this mining operation.

There was no coal mining in the region. If there were, far more deaths would've occurred from the meteor. Coal does not produce a blue-white light when it burns.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
24-05-2026 23:46
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Burning coal adds more weight in carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, than the oxygen it consumes.

(note: so does breathing)

You seem to be forgetting the other half of the reaction, where carbon dioxide is combined with water to produce oxygen and carbon compounds (mostly carbohydrates).
Spongy Iris wrote:
(note for sealover/Im a BM: water added is irrelevant, cuz water sinks)

This added weight in gases puts more pressure on Heaven's glass, which is Earth's protective wind shield.

Enjoying the breezy day?
Spongy Iris wrote:
If the wind shield, Heaven, cracks, it lets in radiation from Universe, the kind which powers the Moon, Sun, and Stars. This may cause an extinction type of event, like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs, the one that caused "The Great Biblical Flood."

The Moon is a reflective body.
The stars do produce energy in the form of cosmic rays and light that reaches the Earth.
The Sun is our closest star.

There is nothing to 'crack'. Sunlight reaches the Earth at all times.
Spongy Iris wrote:
We were lucky to get an early warning of this type of event in the Tunguska region of Russia, on 6/30/1908. The Tunguska blast was in the middle of nowhere, I'm not sure there were any recorded deaths of people.

Okay. This is random.

There were three recorded deaths and some thirty that are missing (presumed dead).

Spongy Iris wrote:
People living quite far away from the blast's epicenter, in Siberia, reported all their windows shattering, being knocked off their chairs. They felt like their clothes were on fire.

Approx. 800 square miles of forest was incinerated and flattened.

The night skies glowed as far away as England, causing nighttime to appear as daytime.

The impact WAS in Siberia. The glow seen in England was not that bright. It was caused by ionized particles coming off the meteor. Atmospheric pressure and heating caused the meteor to explode about 6 miles up (about 30,000 ft). There was therefore no crater, since none of the remains made it to the ground except as dust.

The meteor was apparently mostly nickel, copper, and iron, hence the bright light during heating and during the explosion. Nickel burns with a bright light, and copper puts a blue color in it. Burning iron is mostly sparks somewhat yellowish.

Spongy Iris wrote:
The Tunguska region was home to a massive coal mining operation. No doubt, there were many coal seam fires caused during this mining operation.

There was no coal mining in the region. If there were, far more deaths would've occurred from the meteor. Coal does not produce a blue-white light when it burns.


The water produced from burning coal is irrelevant to climate CHANGE, because water falls to the Earth. It doesn't rise far enough in the atmosphere to add any pressure on Heaven.

Your theoretical model of the Universe is totally wrong and should be discarded.

The Tunguska blast was not caused by a meteor. This theory should be discarded too.

While the Tunguska coal deposits have not been actively mined very much, there are still many coal seam fires that result from these deposits. The coal burned is what increased the pressure enough to crack Heaven, causing the massive blast.

I stand corrected that it caused the deaths of 3 people, in addition to incinerating and flattening more than 800 square miles of trees, and turning nightlight to daylight well beyond the epicenter.




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24-05-2026 23:49
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HarveyH55 wrote:contaminated gold...


Also known as, Taking The Piss.




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25-05-2026 10:58
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Im a BM wrote: Meh.

I'm sorry that you had to find out this way. Learning that your religion isn't the science that you were told it was can be demoralizing.

So, now you realize that you never were a scientist of any type, that your devotion to your faith did not transform you into a thienth geniuth, and that your OBEDIENCE to your leftist echo chamber was a really stupid thing for you to allow to happen.

Now you know why you have no definitions. Religions don't have definitions.
25-05-2026 12:06
Im a BM
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IBdaMann wrote:
Im a BM wrote: Meh.

I'm sorry that you had to find out this way. Learning that your religion isn't the science that you were told it was can be demoralizing.

So, now you realize that you never were a scientist of any type, that your devotion to your faith did not transform you into a thienth geniuth, and that your OBEDIENCE to your leftist echo chamber was a really stupid thing for you to allow to happen.

Now you know why you have no definitions. Religions don't have definitions.


A technician can master pyrotechnic technology without any comprehension whatsoever of chemistry.

Science is not technology.

A technician is not a scientist.
25-05-2026 13:08
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Im a BM wrote: Science is not technology.

Correct. Science predicts Nature. Engineers use science to build technology to control Nature.

Im a BM wrote: A technician is not a scientist.

Do you really believe that you, of all people, should be commenting on what constitutes a scientist? You don't even know what science is. You haven't the vaguest idea what science requires. You have no business pretending to declare what makes a scientist.
25-05-2026 20:29
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Spongy Iris wrote:
The water produced from burning coal is irrelevant to climate CHANGE, because water falls to the Earth. It doesn't rise far enough in the atmosphere to add any pressure on Heaven.

Climate cannot change.
There is no 'pressure on Heaven'
Spongy Iris wrote:
Your theoretical model of the Universe is totally wrong and should be discarded.

Enjoying the breezy day?
Spongy Iris wrote:
The Tunguska blast was not caused by a meteor. This theory should be discarded too.

It was caused by a meteor. It's remains have been found. Apparently mostly nickel, copper, and iron.
Spongy Iris wrote:
While the Tunguska coal deposits have not been actively mined very much, there are still many coal seam fires that result from these deposits. The coal burned is what increased the pressure enough to crack Heaven, causing the massive blast.

There was no coal mining.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I stand corrected that it caused the deaths of 3 people, in addition to incinerating and flattening more than 800 square miles of trees, and turning nightlight to daylight well beyond the epicenter.

About 33, with 3 logged deaths, the rest presumed dead.

Meteors can and do strike the Earth. I suggest you go visit Meteor Crater in Arizona. There are plenty of other craters as examples as well.

Meteors can and do explode before striking the Earth as a single meteor, leaving no crater, but leaving damage under the explosion.


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While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
25-05-2026 20:35
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
Im a BM wrote: Meh.

I'm sorry that you had to find out this way. Learning that your religion isn't the science that you were told it was can be demoralizing.

So, now you realize that you never were a scientist of any type, that your devotion to your faith did not transform you into a thienth geniuth, and that your OBEDIENCE to your leftist echo chamber was a really stupid thing for you to allow to happen.

Now you know why you have no definitions. Religions don't have definitions.


Religions do have definitions, but they too stem from that initial circular argument.

Religions are also described in words, which have definitions, regardless of whether they are describing a religion, science, or anything else.

In Robert's case, he has made up numerous buzzwords and even tried to define a few of them. As you note, however, it has nothing to do with anything in science, which he denies. He is simply trying to thound thmart. He has even used them to try to justify his math errors.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
25-05-2026 20:49
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
A technician can master pyrotechnic technology without any comprehension whatsoever of chemistry.

There is no such thing as 'pyrotechnic technology'. Buzzword fallacy.

You cannot master pyrotechnics without mastering pyrochemistry. All fireworks make use of chemistry to achieve the many effects they produce.

You deny even the chemistry of black powder.

Im a BM wrote:
Science is not technology.

A technician is not a scientist.

A technician can indeed be a scientist. Anyone that adheres with theories of science, particularly if they create one or falsify one, is a scientist.

You deny science. You are no scientist. You have denied the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, the Stefan-Boltzmann law, Black's law, and Henry's law. You have denied even the definition of science and where it comes from.

You also deny mathematics. You have denied statistical mathematics, random number mathematics, and algebra.

You also deny logic. You ignore the errors you make in it and just bullshit your way through with your numerous buzzwords again, and again, and again.

You also deny philosophy. You don't understand what it is. You just preach your religion and expect everyone to follow it, despite your inability to provide any reasoning for your arguments. You deny how philosophy defines words like 'science', 'religion', 'reality'. Your religion makes you a repetitive spambot and whiner.

You deny English. You have not yet learned what 'subjective' even means, and therefore have no understanding what 'climate' actually means. You confuse 'climate' with 'weather'. You confuse 'weather' with 'trend'. You confuse 'temperature' with 'thermal energy'. You confuse 'science' with 'religion'. You confuse 'reality' with 'truth'. You confuse 'class' with 'object'.

These are YOUR problems, Robert. Your pretending won't work here. People are waking up to what the Church of Global Warming really is, and they are rejecting it. THAT is why there is not so much activity on sites such as this as there used to be. It's not just climate-debate, it is everywhere.

The Church of Global Warming hasn't gone away, certainly. But it has become exposed for what it is.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
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