Is M2C2 the "New" New Deal?
| Is M2C2 the "New" New Deal?10-10-2015 18:59 | |
trafn ★★★☆☆(779) |
The first New Deal was a series of domestic programs enacted in the United States mostly between 1933 and 1938, during the first term (1933–37) of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. A response to the Great Depression, it focused on relief for the unemployed and poor, recovery of the economy to normal levels, and reform of the financial system to prevent a repeat depression. Even if you don't believe in M2C2 (man-made climate change), would you still want to participate in a "New" New Deal that retrofits and transforms the world from a petrochemical economy into a carbon neutral economy? Check this out: Carbon Nation Official Trailer The 2015 M2C2 (Global 9/11) Denialist Troll Awards
1st Place - Jep Branner - Our Stupid Administrator! 2nd Place - IBdaMann - Science IS cherry picking! 3rd Place - Into the Night - Mr. Nonsense numbers! 4th Place - Tim the plumber - The Drivel Queen! Edited on 10-10-2015 19:00 |
| 14-10-2015 01:24 | |
| drm★☆☆☆☆ (67) |
Many advocates have said that what is needed for AGW is comparable to what the US did in response to WWII when it entered it. Different from the New Deal, but analogous. We changed the direction of the economy very quickly. This doesn't mean it has to be the same in every way. The point is that with direction and resources and motivation we did what a lot of people thought then and now would not be possible. I saw a TV program on SLR a while back and it suggested that sea walls will be the growing sector later this century as cities try to hold the ocean back. I have also read that wind and solar employ a lot of people, Given that many new industries these days do not employ nearly as many people as major companies did decades ago, new energy construction and infrastructure, which could include a smart grid, could be the place to employ people who are not employed due to automation. |
| 14-10-2015 02:12 | |
| trafn★★★☆☆ (779) |
@drm - it seems things are moving in the "solve the M2C2 problem" direction. Wonder how long it will take the denialist to get on board? An environmental Pearl Harbor perhaps? PS - check out a movie called "Carbon Nation" The 2015 M2C2 (Global 9/11) Denialist Troll Awards
1st Place - Jep Branner - Our Stupid Administrator! 2nd Place - IBdaMann - Science IS cherry picking! 3rd Place - Into the Night - Mr. Nonsense numbers! 4th Place - Tim the plumber - The Drivel Queen! Edited on 14-10-2015 02:13 |
| 14-10-2015 02:15 | |
IBdaMann ★★★★★(14831) |
[quote]trafn wrote: @drm - it seems things are moving in the "solve the M2C2 problem" direction. Wonder how long it will take the denialist to get on board? An environmental Pearl Harbor perhaps?[quote] An economic boom would be a good start. I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
| 14-10-2015 02:21 | |
| trafn★★★☆☆ (779) |
@IBdaMann - so you see, even if you don't fully, or even partly agree with or believe in M2C2 (man-made climate change) it still might be a good thing! The 2015 M2C2 (Global 9/11) Denialist Troll Awards 1st Place - Jep Branner - Our Stupid Administrator! 2nd Place - IBdaMann - Science IS cherry picking! 3rd Place - Into the Night - Mr. Nonsense numbers! 4th Place - Tim the plumber - The Drivel Queen! |
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