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In Obama's final State of the Union Address, he mocked deniers. He bad person?


In Obama's final State of the Union Address, he mocked deniers. He bad person?13-01-2016 17:55
Tai Hai Chen
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-climate-change_5695b77ce4b086bc1cd5dc8c
13-01-2016 18:07
Tai Hai Chen
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First of all, what are we denying? We deny nothing. If the Greenland glacier melts, we'll be left with a big lake like the Caspian Sea. Why? Because the Greenland glacier is below sea level, surrounded by higher ground.

Care to tell us what we are denying?
Edited on 13-01-2016 18:20
14-01-2016 01:20
Tai Hai Chen
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In his closing statement, he said I believe in change because I believe in you. Good to see he understands everything changes. You cannot stop change. No one can stop change. The climate is always changing. Everything is always changing. That is how the universe works.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/598989/final-sotu-obama-tells-americans-believe-change-because-believe
Edited on 14-01-2016 01:21
01-10-2016 00:55
jwoodward48
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
First of all, what are we denying? We deny nothing. If the Greenland glacier melts, we'll be left with a big lake like the Caspian Sea. Why? Because the Greenland glacier is below sea level, surrounded by higher ground.

Care to tell us what we are denying?


Actually, not necessarily - for one, the ice IIRC extends above the higher ground. It'll be a lake, but shallower than the ice once was.

Also, Greenland is "squished" below the weight of the ice. If some of it is removed, the land will spring back partially - but now it can't hold as much water! Feedback loop!


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10-12-2016 19:04
litesong
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jwoodward48 wrote: the ice IIRC extends above the higher ground. It'll be a lake, but shallower than the ice once was.

Also, Greenland is "squished" below the weight of the ice. If some of it is removed, the land will spring back partially - but now it can't hold as much water! Feedback loop!


Excellent answer to thc, who deniers AGW because his communist chinese gov'mint(always small letters) deniers AGW & demands that thc MUST deny AGW, too.

One fact tho, is that Greenland is already springing back. That is why Grace satellites & the I(nput)O(utput) Method, both must adjust their Greenland Ice Loss data upward by ~ 7%. Yeah, with Greenland springing back (mostly in the center), any lake waters gathering in the island's center will eventually be driven to Greenland's shores & emptied into the oceans & seas. As such occurs, Greenland will not only be off-loading melting land ice greatly, but also the already under ice lake accumulating waters. & Greenland's melting & already melted ices & waters will really make world SLR jump upwards.
Edited on 10-12-2016 19:07
13-03-2017 04:59
litesong
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litesong wrote: Greenland is already springing back. That is why Grace satellites & the I(nput)O(utput) Method, both must adjust their Greenland Ice Loss data upward by ~ 7%. Yeah, with Greenland springing back (mostly in the center), any lake waters gathering in the island's center will eventually be driven to Greenland's shores & emptied into the oceans & seas. As such occurs, Greenland will not only be off-loading melting land ice greatly, but also the already under ice lake accumulating waters. & Greenland's melting & already melted ices & waters will really make world SLR jump upwards.

No one answered this interesting scenario.
Has anyone got recent information about the lake on bedrock underneath Greenland Ice Sheet?




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