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22-07-2019 07:40
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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Zloppino wrote:
Drive a car, any car including a Tesla that gets it's power from plants that burn coal oil or Uranium.


What if it's a used car?
22-07-2019 12:27
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
Zloppino wrote:
Drive a car, any car including a Tesla that gets it's power from plants that burn coal oil or Uranium.


What if it's a used car?


Then you should fuel it with used coal or uranium.


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18-08-2019 23:55
keepit
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If you buy a car for a lot of money, it takes a lot of greenhouse gas production to bring that car to market. If that car doesn't save a whole lot of fuel it is not worth it.
If a person drives only 10,000 miles a year (rough approximation) then it might be better to drive an older used car that maybe gets worse miles per gallon.
At 30 or 40 thousand miles per year it gets to be worth maybe driving a hybrid. Less than that i'm not sure it is worth it to produce a new car.
19-08-2019 01:15
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote: If you buy a car for a lot of money, it takes a lot of greenhouse gas production to bring that car to market.

On that point, I understand that it also takes many pink lunar fairies to bring that car to market. Shouldn't we worry about those first?

keepit wrote: If that car doesn't save a whole lot of fuel it is not worth it.

Poor fuel consumption can be easily justified by the amount and type of work performed, or the power/capability brought to a job. In other words, it might be very well worth it.

On the other hand, if it requires more that five pink lunar fairies to bring it to market then that's a deal breaker.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
19-08-2019 09:21
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
If you buy a car for a lot of money, it takes a lot of greenhouse gas production to bring that car to market. If that car doesn't save a whole lot of fuel it is not worth it.

There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas'. No magick gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
keepit wrote:
If a person drives only 10,000 miles a year (rough approximation) then it might be better to drive an older used car that maybe gets worse miles per gallon.

Never mind the repair costs and the worse fuel mileage.
keepit wrote:
At 30 or 40 thousand miles per year it gets to be worth maybe driving a hybrid. Less than that i'm not sure it is worth it to produce a new car.

If it sells, it was worth it. End of story.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
19-08-2019 09:24
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:it also takes many pink lunar fairies to bring that car to market.


We need to talk about the impact of Unicorn farts.
19-08-2019 18:37
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:it also takes many pink lunar fairies to bring that car to market.


We need to talk about the impact of Unicorn farts.


Chemically those are "crystal methane."


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I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit

A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
19-08-2019 21:51
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:it also takes many pink lunar fairies to bring that car to market.


We need to talk about the impact of Unicorn farts.


Chemically those are "crystal methane."


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Nice one!
19-08-2019 22:09
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:it also takes many pink lunar fairies to bring that car to market.


We need to talk about the impact of Unicorn farts.


Chemically those are "crystal methane."


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Well said!


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
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