Ian

HarveyH55 wrote:
I'm a little skeptical of the wind damage, least in the middle of the state where I live and work. Nothing on my commute really indicates a severe wind event. There were three places, where the roads were flooded over. Friday, I just drove through them, no problem. Saturday those roads were blocked off. Did squeeze around the barricade, on one of them... The other two were blocked off much better. Storm drainage failures, probably clogged with small debris washed off the roads. I've got a 40 minute drive to work, and saw no downed trees (or anything else). Usually there are at least tree branches. Didn't see any privacy fence torn a part. Lot of standing water, about it. I'm sure some areas got worse flooding, since the management system can only handle so much at a time. There is really only on way the water can go, no backup drainage. If there is a clog, it will flood. Only three minor failure on my 42 mile commute... Saturday morning, I did an addition 30 minutes, do to detours, and getting a little lost...

The news stations just showed the highlights, which looked bad. Guessing they had to do some searching to find those video clips.

GasGuzzler wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
I'm a little skeptical of the wind damage, least in the middle of the state where I live and work. Nothing on my commute really indicates a severe wind event. There were three places, where the roads were flooded over. Friday, I just drove through them, no problem. Saturday those roads were blocked off. Did squeeze around the barricade, on one of them... The other two were blocked off much better. Storm drainage failures, probably clogged with small debris washed off the roads. I've got a 40 minute drive to work, and saw no downed trees (or anything else). Usually there are at least tree branches. Didn't see any privacy fence torn a part. Lot of standing water, about it. I'm sure some areas got worse flooding, since the management system can only handle so much at a time. There is really only on way the water can go, no backup drainage. If there is a clog, it will flood. Only three minor failure on my 42 mile commute... Saturday morning, I did an addition 30 minutes, do to detours, and getting a little lost...

The news stations just showed the highlights, which looked bad. Guessing they had to do some searching to find those video clips.

Little surprised at your response, Harvey.

This hurricane was no Andrew, but it was certainly the real deal, packing winds of 155. Not only was it quite strong, the orientation of the southwest winds on the SE portion of the storm lined up quite well with the local geography for tremendous amounts of water going up the rivers and flooding inland areas. When roads and bridges disappear, and hundreds (thousands?) of houses are reduced to splinters, something bad certainly happened.

ITN is right on. These people need our help. I know what it's like...a little bit. I have lost everything in a house fire. It's very sobering to suddenly have nothing. I guess I was one better than many Floridians. I still had my vehicles and all family members. Not everyone in Florida can say that tonight.

If you can't go there, send a few bucks. If you can go, bodies and hands would be huge to many. Like ITN said, help one person, and that person is sooner able to help his neighbor.

HarveyH55 wrote:
So I'm a horrible person, because I don't quit my job, and drive 80+ miles to try and find yards to help clean up?

HarveyH55 wrote:
A lot of people also need their insurance company to send somebody out. Mostly just wanting to prevent further damage, if possible. Lot of properties on the coast are vacation homes and rentals, not primary residences. These are often cheaply built, just for this reason... Between insurance, and FEMA, most will eventual get a new building. Yeah, I'm a little cold about some things. It's just that we are a tourist/vacation destination. You'll be surprise how many of those destroyed homes, are ready to rent by next summer. They are simple, quick, and cheap to throw together. Most of the people who have lived in Florida know it can happen at any time. Hurricanes aren't the only severe weather we get here. We depend heavily on storm water management, which works well most of the time, but does fail.

HarveyH55 wrote:
The news stations just showed the highlights, which looked bad. Guessing they had to do some searching to find those video clips.

GasGuzzler wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
The news stations just showed the highlights, which looked bad. Guessing they had to do some searching to find those video clips.

This is the only part I objected to, Harvey. Yes, they showed highlights, but I'm guessing they had thousands to choose from, and the true scope of damage can't even be captured by a camera.

I haven't been there, and I certainly don't work for any news network, so purely my speculation.

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

Spongy Iris wrote:
From what I have been hearing, the storm surge of Ian was its most powerful impact.

https://youtu.be/al8yTiCVfro

You don't have to worry about storm surge if you're in the middle of Florida, just if you live on the coast where the hurricane hits.

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

Shit you are blind, the damage from Andrew is still not all repaired so wake up and look around.





By the way, new homes always hold up better because of code improvements. But as you see there are no old homes

Spongy Iris wrote:
From what I have been hearing, the storm surge of Ian was its most powerful impact.

https://youtu.be/al8yTiCVfro

You don't have to worry about storm surge if you're in the middle of Florida, just if you live on the coast where the hurricane hits.

Swan wrote:

Spongy Iris wrote:
From what I have been hearing, the storm surge of Ian was its most powerful impact.

https://youtu.be/al8yTiCVfro

You don't have to worry about storm surge if you're in the middle of Florida, just if you live on the coast where the hurricane hits.

Wow you must be a nuclear scientist, or at least have a lego degree

Hurricane Ian attacked Florida from the gulf side and went fully through Florida destroying stuff all the way through the state before exiting into the Atlantic.

Check the track


https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2022/09/29/hurricane-ian-destruction-florida-flooding-damage/10454593002/

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

Shit you are blind, the damage from Andrew is still not all repaired so wake up and look around.





By the way, new homes always hold up better because of code improvements. But as you see there are no old homes

Showing pictures from seven years as if they were today??????!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

Shit you are blind, the damage from Andrew is still not all repaired so wake up and look around.





By the way, new homes always hold up better because of code improvements. But as you see there are no old homes

Showing pictures from seven years as if they were today??????!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's the point doofus, the damage from last years hurricanes is not fully repaired in Florida and the damage from hurricane Andrew will never be fully repaired because people should not be living within 10 miles of the Florida coast. So thanks for making my point so eloquently.

Ian's wrath on dumb Florida hillbillies







Why rebuild when the next direct hit is literally guaranteed

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

Shit you are blind, the damage from Andrew is still not all repaired so wake up and look around.





By the way, new homes always hold up better because of code improvements. But as you see there are no old homes

Showing pictures from seven years as if they were today??????!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's the point doofus, the damage from last years hurricanes is not fully repaired in Florida and the damage from hurricane Andrew will never be fully repaired because people should not be living within 10 miles of the Florida coast. So thanks for making my point so eloquently.

Ian's wrath on dumb Florida hillbillies







Why rebuild when the next direct hit is literally guaranteed

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

Swan wrote:

Check the track

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2022/09/29/hurricane-ian-destruction-florida-flooding-damage/10454593002/

HarveyH55 wrote:
Ian started dumping ran over much of Florida, day before it made landfall. Hurricanes are massive storms, over a hundred miles wide. All that water has to go some place quickly, but Florida is flat, and low elevation. Fast, isn't an option. Run off, is of course going out to sea. The coast gets double the storm damage. Storm surge, plus the run off from the rest of the state. Water does the bulk of the damage. Hurricanes also spawn tornadoes, which do worse wind damage. There were several funnel clouds reported, but didn't see any reported touching down. Florida does not get hit by a hurricane every year. It's a big state, being in the path of destruction is rare. Most states have some risk of natural disasters, which are rarely statewide. I prefer the the Florida storms, over the northern winter storms. Snow and ice suck, and do quit a bit of damage. Clean up and repairs after a blizzard really suck, because it's still fukking cold.

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Ian started dumping ran over much of Florida, day before it made landfall. Hurricanes are massive storms, over a hundred miles wide. All that water has to go some place quickly, but Florida is flat, and low elevation. Fast, isn't an option. Run off, is of course going out to sea. The coast gets double the storm damage. Storm surge, plus the run off from the rest of the state. Water does the bulk of the damage. Hurricanes also spawn tornadoes, which do worse wind damage. There were several funnel clouds reported, but didn't see any reported touching down. Florida does not get hit by a hurricane every year. It's a big state, being in the path of destruction is rare. Most states have some risk of natural disasters, which are rarely statewide. I prefer the the Florida storms, over the northern winter storms. Snow and ice suck, and do quit a bit of damage. Clean up and repairs after a blizzard really suck, because it's still fukking cold.

Actually the average hurricane is 300 miles wide, and you are also wrong because Florida does get hit by hurricanes every year, some major some minor but they happen every year without fail. As for blizzards which I cleared in NJ for almost 40 years while there is damage, everything stops in place and life slows down and the power rarely goes out anymore. Florida will not have power for some places for 2 years because the rebuilding time must be considered.

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Ian started dumping ran over much of Florida, day before it made landfall. Hurricanes are massive storms, over a hundred miles wide. All that water has to go some place quickly, but Florida is flat, and low elevation. Fast, isn't an option. Run off, is of course going out to sea. The coast gets double the storm damage. Storm surge, plus the run off from the rest of the state. Water does the bulk of the damage. Hurricanes also spawn tornadoes, which do worse wind damage. There were several funnel clouds reported, but didn't see any reported touching down. Florida does not get hit by a hurricane every year. It's a big state, being in the path of destruction is rare. Most states have some risk of natural disasters, which are rarely statewide. I prefer the the Florida storms, over the northern winter storms. Snow and ice suck, and do quit a bit of damage. Clean up and repairs after a blizzard really suck, because it's still fukking cold.

Actually the average hurricane is 300 miles wide, and you are also wrong because Florida does get hit by hurricanes every year, some major some minor but they happen every year without fail. As for blizzards which I cleared in NJ for almost 40 years while there is damage, everything stops in place and life slows down and the power rarely goes out anymore. Florida will not have power for some places for 2 years because the rebuilding time must be considered.

Not every named storm is a hurricane. Not every hurricane makes landfall in Florida. We do get some severe weather pretty much every year but not always hurricane strength. Storm surge on the coast, is pushing water inland. Which means all the rain that fell inland won't be going that way.

gfm7175 wrote:Wow, Swan is such a ****ing moron...

gfm7175 wrote:
Wow, Swan is such a ****ing moron...

IBdaMann wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:Wow, Swan is such a ****ing moron...

Swan shouldn't worry so much. Cleanup times for Florida hurricanes will be accelerated 10,000,000 times with quantum computing, while equipment and machinery will arrive much faster with quantum teleportation. The NSA is already working on this to ensure proper weaponization of disaster cleanup lest our enemies get to it first and *really* threaten national security.

If you had invested in Apple instead of Coors, you would already know that Queen Elizabeth had Diana executed for not interviewing Swan as she was obligated.

Swan wrote:Says the holocaust and ice age denier...........................

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
The hurricane season has been unusually quiet this year, but storm Ian has left behind quite a bit of damage from flooding and wind. Now that this storm is moving up the coast and degrading into essentially a nor-easter before it finally moves off the coast again, it's a good time to reflect on the human suffering any storm like this can cause.

People have lost their homes and businesses, the vehicles, and in some cases, their lives. This can happen with any storm, but the regional damage here is considerable. This is a time where charity can really make a difference.

None of this is climate. This is weather.

Can't feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for anyone who chooses to live in Florida where the accepted lifespan of a home is under 20 years, because every home is wiped out and rebuilt by buffoons every time there is a storm. The fact is that if Florida was condemned that insurance rates would drop for the other 49 states. The parts of Louisiana that are below sea level where they installed pumps that pump the water back into the ocean that is currently 20 feet higher than the pumps, are inhabited only by people who cannot do any form of math. These areas should be condemned for habitation and given back to the crabs and salamanders, but no they spend my ****ing money to rebuild for these morons

I've lived in Florida since 1986, and bought my house 1992. The house was built in 1946. Hasn't gotten an insurance worthy damage since I've owned it. There are a lot of older homes and buildings that hold up really well. This is where I get the cheap build rental property, and vacation homes. The people who build for themselves, and plan to live there as a primary residence, spend the extra money to make it hold up. It's not hard to find a devastated neighborhood, but two streets over, the house are in good shape. The news stations focus on the devastation... There are homes, of all kinds, that trees fall on. Doesn't have to be a hurricane to knock them down either. There was damage and destruction. It's just not the entire state under water, most buildings damaged. For most of the state, the wind damage was mild. Most of the worst, was done by all the storm water. I watched the local coverage, and expected roads block with down trees an powerlines. Crap everywhere, and a slow ride to work the next morning. It was just a shock, that the roads were clean, just a few places under water. 5 days later, still not seeing mountains of tree limbs and storm debris, where homeowners have been cleaning up.

Final note... Think I killed my alternator, drive through flooded roads. Only did it Friday and Saturday, but had an issue getting home today. Seems kind of a stretch to have been driving 4 days on battery. Hoping I guessed right... Replaced the alternator, charged the battery.

Shit you are blind, the damage from Andrew is still not all repaired so wake up and look around.





By the way, new homes always hold up better because of code improvements. But as you see there are no old homes

Showing pictures from seven years as if they were today??????!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's the point doofus, the damage from last years hurricanes is not fully repaired in Florida and the damage from hurricane Andrew will never be fully repaired because people should not be living within 10 miles of the Florida coast. So thanks for making my point so eloquently.

Ian's wrath on dumb Florida hillbillies







Why rebuild when the next direct hit is literally guaranteed

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

There is no paradox, because rebuilding a destroyed home in Florida benefits no one except the construction workers, and the clean-up crews and only causes the new home owner to make out a FEMA application that you pay for. Makes sense you being a billionaire and all

HarveyH55 wrote:
Ian started dumping ran over much of Florida, day before it made landfall. Hurricanes are massive storms, over a hundred miles wide. All that water has to go some place quickly, but Florida is flat, and low elevation. Fast, isn't an option. Run off, is of course going out to sea. The coast gets double the storm damage. Storm surge, plus the run off from the rest of the state. Water does the bulk of the damage. Hurricanes also spawn tornadoes, which do worse wind damage. There were several funnel clouds reported, but didn't see any reported touching down. Florida does not get hit by a hurricane every year. It's a big state, being in the path of destruction is rare. Most states have some risk of natural disasters, which are rarely statewide. I prefer the the Florida storms, over the northern winter storms. Snow and ice suck, and do quit a bit of damage. Clean up and repairs after a blizzard really suck, because it's still fukking cold.

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Says the holocaust and ice age denier...........................

Says the confessing psyche ward inmate who can't deny any of it.

When I come to visit you in your padded cell, is there a special type of straight jacket you'd like me to bring?

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
Wow, Swan is such a ****ing moron...

Why should my tax dollars be used to fix any home that will blow down or float away again?

Swan wrote:
I would live in the Ukraine before I would live in Florida

Swan wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

Swan wrote:Says the holocaust and ice age denier...........................

Says the confessing psyche ward inmate who can't deny any of it.

When I come to visit you in your padded cell, is there a special type of straight jacket you'd like me to bring?

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Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

gfm7175 wrote:
Wow, Swan is such a ****ing moron...

Why should my tax dollars be used to fix any home that will blow down or float away again?

They aren't.

Swan wrote:
I would live in the Ukraine before I would live in Florida

Just can't appreciate Florida. Your loss.