Heliocentric model is hoax, fraud30-05-2024 13:19 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/23/science/after-400-years-a-challenge-to-kepler-he-fabricated-his-data-scholar-says.htmlDr. Donahue's detective work started as he read the book in Latin and redid Kepler's calculations. ''You can't get the language right if you don't understand what he's describing,'' Dr. Donahue said. But soon he found ''something strange going on.'' I made the important parts bold and beautiful for those who can not read long texts. As you can see Keppler was a simple fraud. He was hired as a math assistant for Tycho Brahe to find solutions for Mars peculiar behavior but Brahe soon died( one year later after the hiring) and Keppler took all the workings of the Brahe and turned all of it upside down to instead push his heliocentric agenda. You may ask what are the conzequenzes of such discoveries that Keppler was a fraud, fudger and faker. Of course the heliocentrism is on the verge of collapse. The astronomical observations do not support heliocentrism. Tycho Brahe, the greatest and most accurate astonomer of his day, did not support heliocentrism. Because it did not comply with observations. Simple as that. |
30-05-2024 19:39 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
Xadoman wrote: Blatant lie. Xadoman wrote: Blatant lie. Xadoman wrote: Blatant lie. Tycho never investigated why Mars behaved the way it did. Xadoman wrote: No such hiring. Xadoman wrote: No 'agenda'. Kepler's laws have not yet been falsified. Argument from randU fallacies. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
30-05-2024 23:28 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
ITN denies history. Ok, here are some quotes and links: https://chandra.harvard.edu/edu/formal/icecore/The_Astronomers_Tycho_Brahe_and_Johannes_Kepler.pdf Kepler became interested in science and mathematics when in school at about the age of During Kepler's time in Prague working as Tycho's assistant, they fought continuously, because Tycho refused to share his meticulous observations with Kepler. These were observations And we also know that he actually did not used the data. He cooked a chart showing some data from his own formulas. Basically he used his formula to "prove" his formula. That is a perfect example of circular theory fallacy. In spite of this, Tycho's painstaking and detailed observational data of the planet Mars, combined with Kepler's mathematical genius, allowed Kepler to derive the three laws of planetary motion. And we known now that Kepler fudged data to push his theories. |
31-05-2024 00:18 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Here are some more quotes:In fact, 85% of the stars in the Milky Way galaxy are not single stars, like the Sun, but multiple star systems,binaries or triplets. Clearly, binary systems are anything but rare, as believed only a century ago. For instance, we know today that the 20 stars closest to Earth are, in all probability, 'locked' in binary systems. Now, a most significant aspect to consider is that many of those 20 stars were discovered to be binary/multiple systems as recently as this last half-decade (2015-2020), showing how diffcult it can be to detect stellar companions, let alone determine what sort of orbital relationship they have with their host star. This naturally raises the question: As a matter of fact, the percentage of stars observed (or determined by spectrometry) to be locked in binary systems has been rapidly increasing in later years thanks to advanced spectrometers and so-called adaptive optics (based on the Shack-Hartmann principle). The latter technological advancement has spectacularly improved the ability to detect and reveal double stars formerly believed to be single stars. Of course, the difficulty resides in the fact that double stars are always relatively close to each other and/or that the 'junior' In fact, Alvan Clark's discovery in 1862 of the midget Sirius B caused a stir among the 19th century scientific community, since it was totally unexpected under Newton's gravitational theories that a tiny body like Sirius B—reckoned to be slightly smaller than Earth—could possibly be gravitationally bound to such a huge body as Sirius A. |
01-06-2024 06:01 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
Xadoman wrote: You are describing yourself. You cannot blame your problem on anybody else. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
01-06-2024 06:02 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
Xadoman wrote: Spamming fiction isn't going to work. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
01-06-2024 13:01 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Spamming fiction isn't going to work. Not fiction. Most stars turn out to be binary systems. Our sun and Mars form a binary star system. |
01-06-2024 23:36 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
Xadoman wrote:Spamming fiction isn't going to work. Mars is not a star. Redefinition fallacy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
03-06-2024 09:13 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
A quote from another forum:I have pointed out the fact that the vast majority of the stars in our skies (85% and counting) are double / or multiple binary systems. Moreover, I have highlighted the facts that the very brightest star in our sky, Sirius, is composed of the large Sirius A and the tiny Sirius B, that the latter is 204X smaller than its host (Sirius A) - and that Mars is [coincidentally?] also 204X smaller than its host (our Sun). Consequently, there can be no offhand rejection (due to Mars being "too small")* of the notion that Mars is the Sun's binary companion. Edited on 03-06-2024 09:19 |
03-06-2024 09:23 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Another quote from another forum:I can now hear someone objecting: "But hey, Sirius B isn't a red dwarf, it's supposed to be a WHITE dwarf!" Btw, where is Swanny? |
03-06-2024 09:27 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Another quote:Consider this: the discovery of a companion of our NEARMOST STAR was announced as recently as August 2016! Another quote: "Our Sun is a solitary star, all on its ownsome, which makes it something of an oddball. But there's evidence to suggest that it did have a binary twin, once upon a time. Recent research suggests that most, if not all, stars are born with a binary twin. (We already knew the Solar System is a total weirdo. The placement of the planets appears out of whack compared to other systems, and it's missing the most common planet in the galaxy, the super-Earth.)" [url]https://www.sciencealert.com/we-may-hav ... -twin-star[/url] |
03-06-2024 17:58 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
Xadoman wrote: No. Insufficient mass. Mars is a planet, not much bigger than our Moon. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 03-06-2024 17:59 |
03-06-2024 18:09 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3330) |
Could zadoman be talking about a dyson sphere in some aspect or was it some other poster that was talking like that? |
03-06-2024 18:24 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
keepit wrote: 1) How do you build a Dyson sphere without it collapsing into the star, keepit? 2) Why would anyone build a Dyson sphere around Mars?? It's not a star! The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
03-06-2024 19:40 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3330) |
itn, I don't know how to build a dyson sphere. It seems like a major piece of work but many cosmologists have shown an interest. I wasn't thinking anyone would build one around mars. I'm not really sure which poster brought up ideas that resembled a dyson sphere. The thing that i recalled was some one talking about a glass sphere surrounding the earth. Admittedly a dyson sphere is a stretch from something surroundng mars. The thing about a DS is that it would surround a star and would accumulate energy from the star and be used by people. It's very far out thinking which interested people like michio kaku who often thinks in terms far advanced civilizations. |
03-06-2024 20:44 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22434) |
keepit wrote: Obviously. keepit wrote: It is not possible. keepit wrote: It is not possible. keepit wrote: Not enough energy to make that much glass, and our trips to the Moon and other planets wouldn't have been possible. The first meteor to come along would've broken the glass. keepit wrote: The Earth already receives abundant energy from the Sun. A Dysan sphere is not a battery. It does not accumulate energy. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
03-06-2024 20:58 | |
keepit★★★★★ (3330) |
Google it. |
03-06-2024 21:33 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14841) |
keepit wrote: itn, I don't know how to build a dyson sphere. This much is obvious. A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical sphere built around a star at its center. Humans would prefer a dysan sphere of radius equivalent to the earth's average distance to the sun. i.e. a sphere around Mars would not be a Dyson sphere. keepit wrote: It seems like a major piece of work It's an impossible piece of work. Where would one get enough material to build a hollow sphere centered around the sun of radius 150 million km and roughly one-earth thick? Nevermind the logistics and transportation to actually construct the sphere. keepit wrote: ... but many cosmologists have shown an interest. Not a single professional ping-pong player has shown any interest. keepit wrote: I wasn't thinking anyone would build one around mars. Perhaps you thought this because Mars is not a star. |
03-06-2024 22:46 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
No. Insufficient mass. A quote: Moreover, I have highlighted the facts that the very brightest star in our sky, Sirius, is composed of the large Sirius A and the tiny Sirius B, that the latter is 204X smaller than its host (Sirius A) - and that Mars is [coincidentally?] also 204X smaller than its host (our Sun). Consequently, there can be no offhand rejection (due to Mars being "too small")* of the notion that Mars is the Sun's binary companion. |
03-06-2024 22:47 | |
GasGuzzler★★★★★ (3034) |
keepit wrote: It seems like a major piece of work IBdaMann wrote: Now hang on just a minute. You're a damn Republican and terrified of change and innovation. Sven has done the scientific research and I've got an awesome set of tools. My hardware store is also fantastic. They only stock half of what I need and only print dollars when they go into debt a little. The only logistics to overcome is getting through the Van Allens. Ralph is working through it. After that, we'll be making hay in the mangrove. Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan Edited on 03-06-2024 23:20 |
03-06-2024 22:56 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
A quote:Tycho's proposed 'geo-heliocentric' model had the orbits of the Sun and Mars intersecting - much like the vast majority of our visible star systems. In other words, he had correctly (yet unwittingly) interpreted the binary nature of our solar system. Since no binary star system had yet been observed in his time, Tycho had no way of making sense of his own observations. He then made a most horrendous mistake – i.e. when he entrusted the young Kepler to solve the baffling yet crucial & all-important behavior of Mars. The rest of this tragic 'mishap' (which has set back humankind's cosmo-logical knowledge by 400+ years) is recounted in due detail in my book, "the TYCHOS model" . |
04-06-2024 00:01 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Some quotes:The very first objection that opponents of my TYCHOS model submit to me is that Mars is far-too-small-a-celestial-body to be our Sun's "dance partner". They argue that it would gravely contradict Newton's gravitational Laws - and that if this were the case, Mars would immediately crash into the Sun. Besides, they say, "Mars is a planet - not a star! And hey, binary double stars are composed of two stars - not of a star and a planet!" Well, it is a matter of historical record that when the first binary star systems were discovered (not so long ago), our world's astronomers were totally stumped: the extremely small size of some of these newly-detected companion stars (which they kept finding thanks to powerful modern telescopes) made no sense at all - that is, within the framework of Sir Isaac Newton's gravitational "Laws". For instance, here's what none other than astronomer Royal Sir Arthur Eddington had to say - following the discovery of Sirius B (the tiny binary companion of Sirius A): In fact, as these small binary companions were discovered, Newton's "Laws" were, once more, in grave danger of catastrophic collapse. Eventually though - and to make a long story short - the whole question was "settled" by what must be the most egregious case (in science history) of "backwards reasoning" or, if you will, of "confirmation bias". The ad hoc 'resolution of the mystery' went as follows: if Sirius B is so very small [its diameter is almost equal to Earth's diameter] then it must be made of extraordinarily dense matter! Today - and to be sure -astronomy students are actually taught that a sugar cube on Sirius B would weigh some 1000 kg - because the forces of gravity on Sirius B are 400,000X stronger than on planet Earth! Hence, Sirius B would be "heavier" than our Sun! That's right, we are told that the atoms composing Sirius B are "packed four-hundred-thousand times tighter" than our earthly atoms... I trust that anyone (graced with earnest brain matter) can see what they (our world's most revered scientists) did there - in the name of their sacrosanct and untouchable "Science God", Sir Isaac Newton. Edited on 04-06-2024 00:03 |
04-06-2024 00:08 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Another quote:Before proceeding, let me just remind my readers that some years ago - as mentioned in my TYCHOS book - I decided to compare the relative sizes (diameters) of Sirius A versus Sirius B with those of our Sun versus Mars. It turned out that Sirius B is 0.4888% of the size of Sirius A - and that Mars is 0.4881% of the size of the Sun. Ergo, the four of them are proportionally alike. |
04-06-2024 01:07 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14841) |
GasGuzzler wrote: Now hang on just a minute. You're a damn Republican and terrified of change and innovation. I'm not a Republican. I told you, I'm a Gemini. GasGuzzler wrote: Sven has done the scientific research and I've got an awesome set of tools. There is no such thing as scientific tools. Sven never could build a Dyson sphere and chew gum at the same time. If you're thinking that you're just going to waltz into your local hardware store and get a pre-fab Dyson, don't be surprised when you find out they're on back-order. Everybody's building Dyson spheres for the "challenge" ... made easier because tmiddles blabbed and told everyone the temperature of Venus. GasGuzzler wrote: My hardware store is also fantastic. Your hardware store sells the the Chinese knock-offs "Dimsum spheres" full of pot stickers. GasGuzzler wrote: They only stock half of what I need and only print dollars when they go into debt a little. They'd be more successful with something better than 60-dpi printer. GasGuzzler wrote:The only logistics to overcome is getting through the Van Allens. But this gets into ozone depletion and the inverse square law. The tropopause allows for this. GasGuzzler wrote: Ralph is working through it. At least we can count on Ralph. He's got white privilege to spare. GasGuzzler wrote: After that, we'll be making hay in the mangrove. Watch out for the arsenic and the hexavalent chromium. You don't want that funky winkerbean in your Dimsum sphere. |
04-06-2024 06:14 | |
GasGuzzler★★★★★ (3034) |
Damn near killed me again. Mind if I quote you on this for my signiture line? Must have! Watch out for the arsenic and the hexavalent chromium. You don't want that funky winkerbean in your Dimsum sphere. Edited on 04-06-2024 06:17 |
04-06-2024 08:52 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
A quote:In Tycho Brahe's times (16th century), NO double stars were known - or had ever been determined. Only about 50 years after Brahe's death, the Italian (tychonic) astronomer Giovanni Battista Riccioli, using a telescope, discovered that Mizar was a double star. However, it wasn't until about a century later that William Herschel formally announced his discovery of what he described as "binary sidereal systems" : |
04-06-2024 08:57 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
A quote:"It was at one time considered that a variable star was in all probability a body, a portion of whose surface had been relatively darkened in some manner akin to that in which sun spots mar the face of the sun; and that when its axial rotation brought the less illuminated portions in turn towards us, we witnessed a consequent diminution in the star's general brightness. (...) The scale on which it varies in brightness is very great, for it changes from the second to the ninth magnitude. For the other leading type of variable star, Algol, of which mention has already been made, is the best instance. The shortness of the period in which the changes of brightness in such stars go their round, is the chief characteristic of this latter class. The period of Algol is a little under three days. This star when at its brightest is of about the second magnitude, and when least bright is reduced to below the third magnitude; from which it follows that its light, when at the minimum, is only about one-third of what it is when at the maximum. It seems definitely proved by means of the spectroscope that variables of this kind are merely binary stars, too close to be separated by the telescope, which, as a consequence of their orbits chancing to be edgewise towards us, eclipse each other in turn time after time." As it is, a little-known fact (among lay people) is that many so-called "stars" do NOT shine with their own light. For instance, red dwarfs (by far the most common type of "star" in our universe) can be so faint, dim and darkish as to be invisible / undetectable by even our largest modern telescopes. In the TYCHOS model, of course, this would be the case for Mars (the Sun's binary companion) which in fact exhibits the characteristic orange hue associated with red dwarfs. It bears reminding the reader here that Mars is only about 0.5% the size of the Sun - and that Sirius B (the small companion of our very brightest star in the skies, SIRIUS) is also about 0.5% the size of its far larger partner, Sirius A. In fact, the discovery of the tiny Sirius B (by Alvan Clark, in 1862) caused a stir among the science community of the times, since it was totally unexpected - under Newton's gravitational theories - that such a small body (Sirius B is reckoned to be slightly smaller than Earth) could possibly be gravitationally bound to such a large body as Sirius A. Incredibly enough, this major riddle was eventually "resolved" by our world's top astrophysicists who (in what must be one of the crudest instances of ad hoc argumentation in science history) simply decided - in spite of the lack of any conceivable experimental verification - that the mass /or density of Sirius B must be quite exceptional (i.e. about "400,000 X larger than the mass of Earth", as we are told!). |
04-06-2024 09:03 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
A quote:In the 1980's, one of the world's top experts in double / binary stars, Wulff Heintz, announced at the end of his illustrious career that at least 85% of all the stars in our skies must be double / binary stars (leaving us to wonder whether the remaining 15% are single, "bachelor" stars - like our Sun is believed to be). Now, this announcement was made almost 40 years ago; since then, there has been a continuous and uninterrupted flow of new detections of binary companions revolving around larger host stars (formerly believed to be single stars), thanks to technological advancements such as Adaptive Optics. In fact, in later years we have all heard in the news media about new so-called "exoplanets" being discovered - almost on a weekly basis. Rarely though, if at all, do such announcements mention that some of those so-called "exoplanets" might be (formerly unseen) binary companions of larger stars. The reason for this may be - in my humble yet fairly informed opinion - that the growing realization that perhaps ALL stars (without exception) are "locked" in double/binary systems is kept under wraps. Obviously, there could be no more horrifying prospect for Copernican /mainstream astronomers than having to admit that ALL the stars in our skies are, in fact, double stars revolving around their common center of mass (i.e. around nothing - in most cases! As of the TYCHOS, Earth has been captured in the middle of that "nothing". After all, planet Earth does have SOMETHING special to it, does it not?). If critics of my work can argue that I could be blinded by confirmation bias (when proposing that ALL the stars are double / binary systems), the very same can be said of mainstream astronomers who appear to keep classifying stars into diverse categories - presumably to distract (subconsciously?) our attention to the "abhorrent" notion that ALL stars are double/binary, as this would spell the end of the heliocentric theory. |
04-06-2024 09:11 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
Another quote:In 2016 (yes, only three years ago!), it was announced that a binary companion of Proxima Centauri - our NEARMOST star! - had been discovered. The newly-detected body is now called "Proxima B". This very recent discovery effectively goes to show just how difficult it is, even for our most advanced 21st century instruments, to detect a binary companion to any given star. (Note: please do not confuse Proxima Centauri with Alpha Centauri [A & B], which is the long-known and much bigger binary system located slightly further away than the Proxima binary system). Edited on 04-06-2024 09:15 |
04-06-2024 09:19 | |
Xadoman★★★★☆ (1055) |
A quote:This most "momentous" problem (pun intended) concerns the missing angular momentum of our Sun. As it is, the Sun is believed to make up 99% of our Solar System - yet it is calculated (under the heliocentric model's paradigm) that it only has 1% of our system's total Angular Momentum! Now, I wish to make it clear that this is by no means one of my own findings / realizations; it has been debated for decades by numerous astrophysicists, since it constitutes a glaring contradiction of the most established and all-important laws of conservation of momentum - as defined and unanimously accepted in academic circles. Edited on 04-06-2024 09:20 |
04-06-2024 15:35 | |
James_★★★★★ (2273) |
Xadoman wrote: I think I solved this problem. The issue is if people understand what math and science have been saying all these years. It's possible that when Newton accused Leibniz of plagiarism that the scandal interfered with his work on gravity. |
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