16-12-2020 21:51 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
Into the Night wrote:There are several States where the electoral college is contested now. Biden's supposed lead in the majority has disappeared. It appears there is no valid majority. This would cause the 12th amendment method to be used. This is what it looks like. US Constitution, Amendment XII US Constitution, Amendment XX, Section 3 . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
16-12-2020 21:52 | |
gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
HarveyH55 wrote:gfm7175 wrote:tmiddles wrote:gfm7175 wrote:...mass targeted fraud.Which is insurmountable in it's evidence, and pending in the supreme court and yawn yawn yawn. That's probably for the best. |
16-12-2020 22:04 | |
gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
IBdaMann wrote:gfm7175 wrote:IBdaMann wrote:gfm7175 wrote:tmiddles wrote: I just about died laughing; that was absolutely hilarious... The not so funny part, however, is that there are plenty of people (like tgoebbles) out there who need such instructions... |
17-12-2020 00:11 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:The courts have nothing to do with determining the crime of Fraud? hmmm.Into the Night wrote: gfm7175 wrote:...insurmountable in it's evidence, a....Yeah just too bad it's too big to post online. Dang internet. You can barely fit anything up here (I just hit my elbow). gfm7175 wrote:...A LOT of people who will no longer bother with the illusion of legitimate elections...MAGA ?!? Mission accomplished Mr. Putin. IBdaMann wrote:...QANON (sp?) is a fabrication on the left...Which one? Was Doug involved? He did not mention it at the meeting. It's good work. Is she like an android or something? The Left's powers seem to be limitless. |
17-12-2020 00:57 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tgoebbles asks: The courts have nothing to do with determining the crime of Fraud? hmmm. Only the State legislatures need to be convinced wrt which electors they "appoint in such Manner". You will have a point later when criminal charges are brought against individuals who perpetrated fraud. Of course, that is a completely separate matter and has no bearing on "such Manner" that the electors are "appointed." Why do you believe that the Constitution grants any power to any courts in "such Manner" as the electors are "appointed"? tgoebbles asks:IBdaMann wrote:...QANON (sp?) is a fabrication on the left...Which one? Was Doug involved? He did not mention it at the meeting. You seem to be the only one who knows anything about this QA'NO (sp?) thing, and yet you are asserting that it is somehow my conspiracy theory. Who are you fooling exactly? tgoebbles asks: The Left's powers seem to be limitless. The Left is certainly powerful. The Left's power is surpassed only by its limitless dishonesty. You know all about that. tgoebbles asks: Is she like an android or something? More like ze' governator, leading by example! Excellent. Go 2nd Amendment! Bill of Rights - Amendment II . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist Edited on 17-12-2020 00:59 |
17-12-2020 04:38 | |
anthonyabr☆☆☆☆☆ (2) |
This most likely won't happen. I thought conservatives were more about "conserving" the traditional ways. Splitting away from America is what the Confederates tried to do, and that caused the Civil War. This is not a good idea, especially now. |
17-12-2020 05:24 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:... a point later when criminal charges ...completely separate matter and has no bearing on "such Manner" that the electors are "appointed."So proof of election fraud is irrelevant to a state legislature certifying an election? Weird perspective you have. I'm glad you're not a legislator. IBdaMann wrote:The Left is certainly powerful.Ah ah! Let's be a bit more precise. Your theory demands that they be FAR FAR more powerful than the right. That Trump is weak and ineffective in the face of their dishonest brilliance. the IMPOTUS in chief, swept aside in a brilliant move orchestrated by...wait who masterminded this thing IBD? Shiff? |
17-12-2020 06:35 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tgoebbles wrote: So proof of election fraud is irrelevant to a state legislature certifying an election? Correct. They only need be convinced. Also, you well know that you are incorrectly using the word "proof" making your question worthy of being asked by a moron. tgoebbles wrote: Ah ah! Let's be a bit more precise. Your theory demands that they be FAR FAR more powerful than the right. Nope. I have no theory, and thus no demands. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist Edited on 17-12-2020 06:36 |
17-12-2020 06:53 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:By what?tgoebbles wrote: So proof of election fraud is irrelevant... IBdaMann wrote:..you are incorrectly using the word "proof"No I am referencing court. You must "prove" a case in court. IBdaMann wrote:...I have no theory, ...Ah the crazy train builds steam. So it's not a "theory" there was massive election fraud? What is it then? A "fact"? A "law of physics" perhaps? Edited on 17-12-2020 07:13 |
17-12-2020 07:53 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tgoebbles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:By what?tgoebbles wrote: So proof of election fraud is irrelevant... What it takes to convince them. Overwhelming evidence works. tgoebbles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:..you are incorrectly using the word "proof"No I am referencing court. You must "prove" a case in court. Nope. One makes a convincing case in court. What do you think happens when a prosecutor wins on a purely circumstantial case? The defense counsel doesn't get the case thrown out on the basis of "that doesn't prove anything!" tgoebbles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:...I have no theory, ...So it's not a "theory" there was massive election fraud? What is it then? Observation. First it was an announcement on the part of the DNC months in advance and then millions of people tuned-in on election night to watch the show with high expectations, with many betting heavily on the fraud being perpetrated through mail-in ballots. Ask the board if I was the only one who watched it happen live. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
17-12-2020 08:50 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:Overwhelming evidence works. And we come to how does someone "know" something to be true? In the United States we "Innocent until proven guilty" so that when the crowd in the street rage for justice the matter is referred to a court of law. A legislator is certainly free to make decisions. They could make poor decision based on hearsay and innuendo. But simply to point out that irresponsible behavior is legal, does not make it appropriate. IBdaMann wrote:Sorry but the vocabulary of the court is well established and the word is "prove", not "convince".tmiddles wrote:..You must "prove" a case in court.Nope. One makes a convincing case in court. https://www.uscourts.gov/glossary#letter_p "Burden of proof The duty to prove disputed facts. In civil cases, a plaintiff generally has the burden of proving his or her case. In criminal cases, the government has the burden of proving the defendant's guilt. (See standard of proof.)" The US Court System will define it's own terms. Your input is irrelevant. IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote:...[if] it's not a "theory" there was massive election fraud? What is it then?Observation. Were you going to call the police at some point? Because if you observed a crime being committed you really should. Do you know the name of anyone you observed committing voter fraud? Have smart phone with you to snap a photo? Also I'm curious: It's safe to say there is plenty you did not directly observe. How sure are you that the MASSIVE voter fraud was exclusively Democratic? |
17-12-2020 09:20 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tgoebbles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Overwhelming evidence works.And we come to how does someone "know" something to be true? Nope. That's not a stop for this train. We are on the "Just Need to be Convinced" Express. When you have video of fraud being perpetrated in real time, to the extent that it exceeds the difference, any rational human will become convinced of what he is observing. That is the final destination on this line. tgoebbles wrote: A legislator is certainly free to make decisions. That's their job. One of their decisions, per the Constitution, is to determine the electors for the President of the United States. Nobody else gets to make that decision. tgoebbles wrote: They could make poor decision based on hearsay and innuendo. ... or they can make the right decision based on what they see with their own eyes. tgoebbles wrote: Sorry but the vocabulary of the court is well established and the word is "prove", not "convince". You're not a lawyer. Ask me how I know. One convinces a jury. Period. One presents a case. Courts hear cases. This reality is not superseded by any dictionary. tgoebbles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Were you going to call the police at some point?tgoebbles wrote:...[if] it's not a "theory" there was massive election fraud? What is it then?Observation. Yes, I was but I momentarily hesitated and that was all that was needed for others to beat me to it. tgoebbles wrote:Also I'm curious: It's safe to say there is plenty you did not directly observe. How sure are you that the MASSIVE voter fraud was exclusively Democratic? I'm very sure. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist Edited on 17-12-2020 09:23 |
17-12-2020 09:56 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:...you have video of fraud being perpetrated in real time, ...No you do not. The Earth is not flat. Hillary did not adopt a Alien child while in the white house. This is why we have a court system. IBdaMann wrote:...That is the final destination on this line....That you don't even pretend to be interested in prosecution and consequences betrays that you don't believe this BS. Those who want to stop at rumor know they are liars. IBdaMann wrote:...One of [a state legislator's ]decisions, per the Constitution, is to determine the electors for the President of the United States. Nobody else gets to make that decision.Very true. Hate to break it to you but they don't wing it every year. They, the state legislature, wrote down their own rules for doing so. And yes, they have to follow their own rules. Example: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(edsluw3npnevzbk2rtdf3ohv))/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-116-1954-IV.pdf "electors of president and vice-president of the United States shall be elected in the manner herein provided:" You see, they have the power, and they used it. "The candidates for electors of president and vice-president who shall be considered elected are those whose names have been certified to the secretary of state by that political party receiving the greatest number of votes for those offices at the next November election" So the State Legislature of Michigan used their constitutional power and they have spoken. Unfortunately for wack jobs like you and Trump they did that in 1954. So it is written. IBdaMann wrote:One convinces a jury. Period.Keep holding on to your alternate vacbulary world. No one cares. IBdaMann wrote:With 150 million votes why would you be so sure that there were 10 million fraudulent votes for Biden and 0 for Trump?tmiddles wrote:Also I'm curious: It's safe to say there is plenty you did not directly observe. How sure are you that the MASSIVE voter fraud was exclusively Democratic? You do realize the only case of someone being prosecuted for trying to cast a fraudulent ballot is a Trumper right? https://www.fox29.com/news/authorities-pennsylvania-man-tried-to-request-ballot-for-deceased-mother Edited on 17-12-2020 10:06 |
17-12-2020 10:18 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
anthonyabr wrote:The United States has never had a civil war. The War of Secession started when Lincoln tried to resupply a fort in a foreign nation without the leave of that foreign nation. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2020 10:19 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:... a point later when criminal charges ...completely separate matter and has no bearing on "such Manner" that the electors are "appointed."So proof of election fraud is irrelevant to a state legislature certifying an election? Mantras 22i. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2020 10:21 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:By what?tgoebbles wrote: So proof of election fraud is irrelevant... RQAA tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:..you are incorrectly using the word "proof"No I am referencing court. You must "prove" a case in court. Mantra 22i. tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:...I have no theory, ...Ah the crazy train builds steam. So it's not a "theory" there was massive election fraud? What is it then? Mantras 22i. RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2020 10:23 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Overwhelming evidence works. RQAA. Mantras 22i. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2020 10:23 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:...you have video of fraud being perpetrated in real time, ...No you do not. The Earth is not flat. Hillary did not adopt a Alien child while in the white house. RQAA. Mantras 22i. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2020 17:34 | |
gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
anthonyabr wrote: What is "this"? I'm assuming that you are referring to secession, but I just want to make sure... anthonyabr wrote: A 'conservative' (in the most general sense of the word) is simply someone who wishes to preserve something (to keep something together). In the specific context of USA politics, a 'conservative' is someone who wishes to preserve the Constitution of the USA. anthonyabr wrote: Correct. anthonyabr wrote: Incorrect. First off, it technically was not a civil war but rather a war of secession. A civil war is a war between multiple factions of the same nation (vying for control over it), while a war of secession is a war between two separate nations (one attempting to break free from the control of the other). A war of secession (between Britain and its former colonies) is how the USA came to be. That war has since been called the War of Independence, as the USA won independence from Britain and became their own country. Secondly, the formation of the Confederacy did not cause the war of secession. The war was caused by Lincoln (the USA) when he attempted to resupply a fort that was within a foreign nation (the Confederacy) without authorization from that foreign nation. anthonyabr wrote: I think that tensions are so tight right now that civil war is most likely in the USA's near future. Demokkkrats in the big cities have already all but officially declared it. It also appears that your posts and thread creations are posting in triplicates for some reason... Edited on 17-12-2020 17:45 |
17-12-2020 17:48 | |
gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Overwhelming evidence works. How do you "know" that you are tmiddles? How do you "know" that 2+2=4? How do you "know" that you know what you know? How do you "know" that you have not pooped your pants? Edited on 17-12-2020 17:49 |
17-12-2020 21:13 | |
HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
gfm7175 wrote:tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Overwhelming evidence works. Because he can look it up in Wikipedia... |
18-12-2020 00:04 | |
James___★★★★★ (5513) |
anthonyabr wrote: Most people in here are idiots. It's not about America but it is about the party. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMaJyUQfwv4 Edited on 18-12-2020 00:05 |
18-12-2020 05:04 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
James___ wrote: Most people in here are idiots. Who is the biggest idiot in here? It's me, isn't it? C'mon, you can admit it. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
18-12-2020 12:36 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
gfm7175 wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something or are you going to just duck out with an "RQAA"? It is THE fundamental question here in my view. |
18-12-2020 15:43 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something That is exactly what you have stupidly been trying to debate, as a means for ducking out of the fraud discussion. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
18-12-2020 15:53 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:...a means for ducking out...How do you know there has been fraud? Bill Bar and every court it's been brought to say no. Convicted criminals, a disbarred attorney and the like claim there is. I consider the first group to be reputable sources and the second group to be unreliable. So how do you know? I know that I have no reason to believe there has been fraud, because I don't. |
18-12-2020 16:05 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote: How do you know there has been fraud? tmiddles wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
18-12-2020 16:40 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:do you know there has been fraud? tmiddles wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something[/quote] So that's a no. |
18-12-2020 17:18 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:do you know there has been fraud?tmiddles wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" somethingSo that's a no. So you're dodging. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
18-12-2020 19:00 | |
gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
tmiddles wrote:gfm7175 wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something or are you going to just duck out with an "RQAA"? You've already ducked out of this thread's topic, dude... Are you suggesting that we start up a new discussion about "knowing"? Are you going to duck out of that one too? |
18-12-2020 19:15 | |
gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:...a means for ducking out...How do you know there has been fraud? How do you know there was no fraud? tmiddles wrote: Are the opinions (your twisted versions of them) of Bill Barr and "every court" (some courts, who ignored the Constitution as well as issued their rulings on standing rather than merit) how you "know" there was no fraud? tmiddles wrote: I think this right here says it all. |
18-12-2020 21:44 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:gfm7175 wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something or are you going to just duck out with an "RQAA"? You already answered your own question. tmiddles wrote: RQAA. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
18-12-2020 21:47 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:...a means for ducking out...How do you know there has been fraud? RQAA tmiddles wrote: No, they haven't. tmiddles wrote: RQAA tmiddles wrote: Nonsense statement. tmiddles wrote: RQAA tmiddles wrote: Because you are locked into the paradoxes in the propaganda and denial of the evidence that exists. Evidence exists. A lot of it. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
18-12-2020 21:47 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
tmiddles wrote:So that's a no.[/quote]IBdaMann wrote:do you know there has been fraud?tmiddles wrote:Do you want to actually debate how you or I "know" something So you don't know anything??? I already knew this. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
19-12-2020 00:20 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:...you're dodging.What? Fire away. Try asking a clear question. gfm7175 wrote:...Are you suggesting that we start up a new discussion about "knowing"?This thread's topic is do we "know", do they "know" there was voter fraud. So not a new topic at all. It is fundamental to this topic. gfm7175 wrote:I don't but that is the wrong question. You should have asked "How do you know there was not enough fraud to change the result of the election?" Happy to discuss that but only if you're willing to. gfm7175 wrote:Are the opinions ... how you "know" there was no fraud?Yes gfm7175 wrote:It does. Says it in English.tmiddles wrote: Do you have any reason to believe that Vladimir Putin had Pop Star Selena assassinated the? How about any reason to believe that Hilary Clinton adopted an alien child (this has been published and editors signed of on it!). Not having a reason to state that something is true is a big part of getting a handle on the reality around you. Pretty much the first step in calling bullshit on wacked out ideas. Edited on 19-12-2020 00:24 |
19-12-2020 01:13 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote:What? Fire away. Try asking a clear question. You mean "Try AGAIN ..." OK. 1) What are the unambiguous definitions of Global Warming, Climate Change and Greenhouse Effect that neither violate nor deny physics? [Status: Unanswered] 2) Why should any rational adult believe in either Global Warming, Climate Change or Greenhouse Effect? [Status: Unanswered] 3) How can I unambiguously demonstrate to my children thermal energy flowing from cooler to warmer? [Status: Unanswered] 4) How can I know the temperature of a large, unspecified volume, e.g. Denver, to within, say, 10degF with only one temperature measurement, e.g. the Denver airport? [Status: Unanswered] 5) What are the unambiguous definitions of "race," "negro," "black people," "white people," "brown people," "white supremacy," "white nationalsim," "white nationalist," "white supremacist," "black supremacist" and "racist"? [Status: Unanswered] 6) Is there an official list of races? [Status: Unanswered] - 6a) How do I determine my own race or that of my children? [Status: Unanswered] 7) Why should any rational adult believe that there is a problem of racism in the United States? [Status: Unanswered] 8) Why should law abiding citizens be rendered defenseless before rampant violent crime? [Status: Unanswered] 9) Where in the 1st Amendment is "hate" prohibited such that, if shown, a prosecutor can throw someone in jail for having had that emotion/thought? [Status: Unanswered] 10) Why do you claim that an atmosphere only makes a planet's or moon's solid surface hotter since you are fully aware that no place at the bottom of earth's atmosphere ever reaches anywhere close to the daytime temperatures of the moon's atmosphereless solid surface? [Status: Unanswered] 11) If we were to discover that Lisa Gherardini was actually a shitty person, would that justify Black Lives Matter storming the Louvre to destroy the Mona Lisa? [Status: Unanswered] 12) Why should we destroy artifacts and relics pertaining to history that we never want to forget or repeat? [Status: Unanswered] 13) The Aztecs committed genocide of many other tribes and practiced human sacrifice; should their artwork and artifacts be destroyed? [Status: Unanswered] 14) Why would you or anyone pretend to be a judge of what history is to be revised or destroyed? [Status: Unanswered] 15) In what substantive/meaningful way do the platforms of Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, The National Organization of Women, the DNC, Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA ... differ? [Status: Unanswered] 16) Which type of wood are you claiming melts (assuming the proper temperature and pressure) ... and what is that specific temperature and pressure? [Status: Unanswered] tmiddles wrote: This thread's topic is do we "know", Nope. This thread's topic is "Do State legislatures have convincing evidence of election fraud." Of course the obvious answer is "yes" and we are therefore done with this topic, yes? tmiddles wrote:You should have asked "How do you know there was not enough fraud to change the result of the election?" That would be a stupid, time-wasting question because the clear magnitude of the fraud in each of the contested States far exceeds Biden's thin margin, because the fraudsters clearly only did enough for Biden to eke out a "miraculous" win. Biden loses in a crushing defeat if only half of the illegal ballots in each contested State are thrown out. There's nothing to discuss on that topic. tmiddles wrote: I know that I have no reason to believe there has been fraud, because I don't.gfm7175 wrote: I think this right here says it all.It does. Says it in English. You have established that you deny reality. You have established that in your happy place FALSE = TRUE. This explains why you are so dishonest in your arguments, i.e. everything you say that is false you nonetheless believe in your happy place that it is true. There can be no productive discussion with you while you deny reality. For example, how can you realistically discuss the fraud of tens of thousands of illegal ballots being run through machines in secret when you deny the existence of the video showing it all happening? Exactly, you can't. Your insistence that others should waste their time engaging in such discussions with you should be ignored out of hand. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
19-12-2020 02:35 | |
duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
You have won the discussion IBDM.Biden has won the election |
19-12-2020 03:57 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
duncan61 wrote: You have won the discussion IBDM.Biden has won the election You're not making much sense, but feel free to ignore discussions that do not interest you. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
19-12-2020 04:04 | |
tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:So nothing on topic.. you are tired of getting beaten. I get ittmiddles wrote:What? Fire away. Try asking a clear question.... ....) The Aztecs committed genocide ...Status: Unanswered]. IBdaMann wrote:Exactly. Do they know there was election fraud. So how do they become "convinced " by evidence IBD? How do you?tmiddles wrote: This thread's topic is do we "know", IBdaMann wrote:...fraudsters clearly only did...What makes it "clear" for you? The video you won't identify? Trump's tweets? What possible reason is there for you and the Trump gang on this board to say there is a video and refuse to share? I have to assume its because it's BS. Edited on 19-12-2020 04:06 |
19-12-2020 05:14 | |
IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:So nothing on topic..tmiddles wrote:What? Fire away. Try asking a clear question.... ....) The Aztecs committed genocide ...Status: Unanswered]. What part of "Fire away. Try asking a clear question" did I misunderstand? I have to presume this is just another 22i on your part. tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:Exactly.tmiddles wrote: This thread's topic is do we "know",Nope. This thread's topic is "Do State legislatures have convincing evidence of election fraud." I'm glad we got that settled. tmiddles wrote: What possible reason is there for you and the Trump gang on this board to [refer to a publicly available video that I refuse to acknowledge] None of us own the surveillance video of the State Farm Center in Atlanta that shows Democrat operatives pulling out six hidden boxes of "ballots" after everyone else had left and running them through the vote-counting machines in total secret without any observers. No one on this board can possibly prevent you from watching that video as many times as you like. tmiddles wrote: I have to assume its because my head is in the sand. I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
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