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Global Warming for Dummies22-08-2017 21:52
Wake
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http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?
23-08-2017 08:27
GreenMan
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Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


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23-08-2017 17:14
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


Let's see - he was "debunked" simply by in some manner being affiliated to what you are calling "right wing". More of your intellectual property showing it's real estate values.

He took money from an oil company? But you don't know why or for what? In fact you can't even verify he did so.

You realize that you are guilty of criminal character assassination don't you? But you couldn't care less. You would spend the rest of your life damning Martin Luther King Jr. if he uttered one word against your religion of climate change.
23-08-2017 22:22
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


Clouds are thinning???


The Parrot Killer
23-08-2017 22:26
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


Let's see - he was "debunked" simply by in some manner being affiliated to what you are calling "right wing". More of your intellectual property showing it's real estate values.

He took money from an oil company? But you don't know why or for what? In fact you can't even verify he did so.

You realize that you are guilty of criminal character assassination don't you? But you couldn't care less. You would spend the rest of your life damning Martin Luther King Jr. if he uttered one word against your religion of climate change.


He doesn't understand the virtual monopoly the government has on science funding in colleges, universities, and most science institutions. No, he would rather attack an oil company that the government itself destroyed.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 23-08-2017 22:27
23-08-2017 22:39
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:

Let's see - he (Dr. Spencer) was "debunked" simply by in some manner being affiliated to what you are calling "right wing". More of your intellectual property showing it's real estate values.

He took money from an oil company? But you don't know why or for what? In fact you can't even verify he did so.

You realize that you are guilty of criminal character assassination don't you? But you couldn't care less. You would spend the rest of your life damning Martin Luther King Jr. if he uttered one word against your religion of climate change.


He doesn't understand the virtual monopoly the government has on science funding in colleges, universities, and most science institutions. No, he would rather attack an oil company that the government itself destroyed.
24-08-2017 11:28
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


Let's see - he was "debunked" simply by in some manner being affiliated to what you are calling "right wing". More of your intellectual property showing it's real estate values.

He took money from an oil company? But you don't know why or for what? In fact you can't even verify he did so.

You realize that you are guilty of criminal character assassination don't you? But you couldn't care less. You would spend the rest of your life damning Martin Luther King Jr. if he uttered one word against your religion of climate change.


He doesn't understand the virtual monopoly the government has on science funding in colleges, universities, and most science institutions. No, he would rather attack an oil company that the government itself destroyed.


Which oil company did the government destroy? I musta missed that on the evening news. The government isn't out to destroy the oil industry. On the contrary, my feathered cannibalistic friend. The government is doing all it can do to insure the oil companies make record profit, at our children's and grandchildren's expense. The current regime is also literally stopping research and publication of any climate related science. And at the same time repealing laws meant to protect the environment against corporate profit.

Is that the same government that you think created the Global Warming Hoax in the first place? Oh no, says you. That was those pesky Democrats. It's us hero Republicans that are saving the world from those who just want take it over with their Global Warming Hoax. Or are you talking about the Chinese government?

We need to be clear on which government is in your fantasy.


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24-08-2017 17:22
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:

Which oil company did the government destroy? I musta missed that on the evening news. The government isn't out to destroy the oil industry. On the contrary, my feathered cannibalistic friend. The government is doing all it can do to insure the oil companies make record profit, at our children's and grandchildren's expense. The current regime is also literally stopping research and publication of any climate related science. And at the same time repealing laws meant to protect the environment against corporate profit.

Is that the same government that you think created the Global Warming Hoax in the first place? Oh no, says you. That was those pesky Democrats. It's us hero Republicans that are saving the world from those who just want take it over with their Global Warming Hoax. Or are you talking about the Chinese government?

We need to be clear on which government is in your fantasy.


When you keep your eyes closed it's pretty hard to see anything stupid.

You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?

You're so 'f'ing stupid you don't even know that there's no such thing as "Big Oil". That is something that was taught to children by leftist teachers and you tell us you're in your 40's. American Oil Companies aren't even in the top 3 in size or worth.

Try not to drool on yourself as you have another five helpings of food at your keyboard.
24-08-2017 22:53
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


Let's see - he was "debunked" simply by in some manner being affiliated to what you are calling "right wing". More of your intellectual property showing it's real estate values.

He took money from an oil company? But you don't know why or for what? In fact you can't even verify he did so.

You realize that you are guilty of criminal character assassination don't you? But you couldn't care less. You would spend the rest of your life damning Martin Luther King Jr. if he uttered one word against your religion of climate change.


He doesn't understand the virtual monopoly the government has on science funding in colleges, universities, and most science institutions. No, he would rather attack an oil company that the government itself destroyed.


Which oil company did the government destroy?

Which oil company are we talking about dumbass? Peabody Oil.
GreenMan wrote:
I musta missed that on the evening news.

They didn't cover it.
GreenMan wrote:
The government isn't out to destroy the oil industry.

Obama was. So were the Clintons. They were out to destroy the coal industry too.
GreenMan wrote:
On the contrary, my feathered cannibalistic friend. The government is doing all it can do to insure the oil companies make record profit, at our children's and grandchildren's expense.

Ah...THAT conspiracy theory again, eh?

Someday you MIGHT learn what a P&L statement is and what that 'record profit' really is.
GreenMan wrote:
The current regime is also literally stopping research and publication of any climate related science.

There is no climate related science. Climate is not a branch of science. Science is based on terms you can define.
GreenMan wrote:
And at the same time repealing laws meant to protect the environment against corporate profit.

Another vague claim. What laws?
GreenMan wrote:
Is that the same government that you think created the Global Warming Hoax in the first place?

No, because they didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
Oh no, says you. That was those pesky Democrats.

Bingo.
GreenMan wrote:
It's us hero Republicans that are saving the world

Unfortunately, they aren't. They seem to mostly enjoy sitting on their thumbs.
GreenMan wrote:
from those who just want take it over with their Global Warming Hoax.

That is already happening. Haven't you noticed?
GreenMan wrote:
Or are you talking about the Chinese government?

The Chinese government, despite being a communist nation, doesn't dork around with the Church of Global Warming like we do in the United States and Europe.


The Parrot Killer
24-08-2017 22:54
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 24-08-2017 22:55
25-08-2017 00:26
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies/

You can either learn the easy way or the hard way. What do you prefer? Giving away your freedom and money to a centralized government or obeying the rules of a democratic republic and being stuck with what the majority - we deniers - believe?


Isn't what you mean to say that you can either learn or ignore the things that don't make us happy?
It is unfortunate that we live in a society that promises to punish us all, just because the majority are idiots like you. Our punishment will begin when the rest of the world turns on us, for leaving them holding the bag. And your hero, Dr Roy Spencer won't be the only one held liable for what we are doing. You and the rest of us all get to suffer the same fate. The rest of the world will destroy us for what we are doing, because we are destroying the effort that they are putting into fixing this problem. And then, when they get through kicking our ass, we still have to deal with the original problem, but now we are broke as hell and don't want to reduce our usage of CO2 producing energy sources even more. But we won't have a choice. If we don't comply with the rest of the world's wishes that we curtail our glutinous usage of CO2 produce fuels, then they will go beyond destroying us financially, they will invade our land, and make us.

Spencer has been debunked https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, and has also been caught taking money from Peabody Oil, indicating that he takes money from other fossil fuel companies http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-spencer-peabody-energy_us_57601e12e4b053d43306535e. He is a con-artist with a Phd. His suggestion for the warming we have seen is that the clouds are thinning. No suggestion as to why the clouds are thinning though. And he thinks the clouds will thicken back up after a while, and cool us back off. Again, no suggestion as to why he thinks this.

His article should be titled "AGW Denial for Idiots."


Let's see - he was "debunked" simply by in some manner being affiliated to what you are calling "right wing". More of your intellectual property showing it's real estate values.

He took money from an oil company? But you don't know why or for what? In fact you can't even verify he did so.

You realize that you are guilty of criminal character assassination don't you? But you couldn't care less. You would spend the rest of your life damning Martin Luther King Jr. if he uttered one word against your religion of climate change.


He doesn't understand the virtual monopoly the government has on science funding in colleges, universities, and most science institutions. No, he would rather attack an oil company that the government itself destroyed.


Which oil company did the government destroy?

Which oil company are we talking about dumbass? Peabody Oil.
GreenMan wrote:
I musta missed that on the evening news.

They didn't cover it.
GreenMan wrote:
The government isn't out to destroy the oil industry.

Obama was. So were the Clintons. They were out to destroy the coal industry too.
GreenMan wrote:
On the contrary, my feathered cannibalistic friend. The government is doing all it can do to insure the oil companies make record profit, at our children's and grandchildren's expense.

Ah...THAT conspiracy theory again, eh?

Someday you MIGHT learn what a P&L statement is and what that 'record profit' really is.
GreenMan wrote:
The current regime is also literally stopping research and publication of any climate related science.

There is no climate related science. Climate is not a branch of science. Science is based on terms you can define.
GreenMan wrote:
And at the same time repealing laws meant to protect the environment against corporate profit.

Another vague claim. What laws?
GreenMan wrote:
Is that the same government that you think created the Global Warming Hoax in the first place?

No, because they didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
Oh no, says you. That was those pesky Democrats.

Bingo.
GreenMan wrote:
It's us hero Republicans that are saving the world

Unfortunately, they aren't. They seem to mostly enjoy sitting on their thumbs.
GreenMan wrote:
from those who just want take it over with their Global Warming Hoax.

That is already happening. Haven't you noticed?
GreenMan wrote:
Or are you talking about the Chinese government?

The Chinese government, despite being a communist nation, doesn't dork around with the Church of Global Warming like we do in the United States and Europe.


Morons like greenman do not know that for every penny of profit that oil companies make, the government makes six cents. So he is willing to keep saying "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" when it is really the government who wants more out of your pocket.
25-08-2017 09:30
mygor
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1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4

This video has a theory that the sea people who are believed to have ended the late bronze age civilizations were not conquerors but, climate migrants. Its interesting if your into historical data
Edited on 25-08-2017 09:37
25-08-2017 11:02
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil. I think I said the wrong name earlier. It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

"Peabody has been an important actor in organized climate change denial. Until 2015, Peabody had claimed that global warming isn't a threat and emitting carbon dioxide is beneficial instead of being dangerous. The company also funded at least two dozen climate change denial organizations and front groups such as the George C. Marshall Institute, the Institute for Energy Research, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change as well as scientists being famous for their contrarian opinions, among them Willie Soon, Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer.[74] Nick Surgey, director of research for the Center for Media and Democracy, commented on the sheer scale of Peabody's funding activities: "We expected to see some denial money, but it looks like Peabody is the treasury for a very substantial part of the climate denial movement."[74][69] Peabody plans to continue to oppose the Clean Power Plan during its bankruptcy.[75]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody_Energy


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25-08-2017 18:38
litesong
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil. I think I said the wrong name earlier. It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

"Peabody has been an important actor in organized climate change denial. Until 2015, Peabody had claimed that global warming isn't a threat and emitting carbon dioxide is beneficial instead of being dangerous. The company also funded at least two dozen climate change denial organizations and front groups such as the George C. Marshall Institute, the Institute for Energy Research, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change as well as scientists being famous for their contrarian opinions, among them Willie Soon, Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer.[74] Nick Surgey, director of research for the Center for Media and Democracy, commented on the sheer scale of Peabody's funding activities: "We expected to see some denial money, but it looks like Peabody is the treasury for a very substantial part of the climate denial movement."[74][69] Peabody plans to continue to oppose the Clean Power Plan during its bankruptcy.[75]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody_Energy

While AGW denier liar whiners continually lie that AGW denier liar whiner scientists don't take money from oil, coal, energy & re-pubic-lick-un propaganda PR sources, it is obvious that old sick silly AGW denier liar whiner scientists take lotsa money from such. From another thread here, Exxon & Peabody gave money out to propagate propaganda PR poop:
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just sayin wrote: this man never asked for or received money from any oil company
litesong wrote: Oh, an old thread here. Of course, Lindzen was downwind of Exxon money spread around to denounce AGW. From Sourcewatch:
Lindzen was a member of the Science, Health, and Economic Advisory Council of the Annapolis Center[1], a Maryland-based think tank which had been funded by corporations including ExxonMobil[20], but does not appear to have filed a tax return with the IRS since 2007.
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In addition, in bankruptcy proceedings filed when Peabody Coal Company (big AGW denier) checked out, papers show payments were also received by Lindzen.
Edited on 25-08-2017 18:41
25-08-2017 18:58
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil. I think I said the wrong name earlier. It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

"Peabody has been an important actor in organized climate change denial. Until 2015, Peabody had claimed that global warming isn't a threat and emitting carbon dioxide is beneficial instead of being dangerous. The company also funded at least two dozen climate change denial organizations and front groups such as the George C. Marshall Institute, the Institute for Energy Research, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change as well as scientists being famous for their contrarian opinions, among them Willie Soon, Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer.[74] Nick Surgey, director of research for the Center for Media and Democracy, commented on the sheer scale of Peabody's funding activities: "We expected to see some denial money, but it looks like Peabody is the treasury for a very substantial part of the climate denial movement."[74][69] Peabody plans to continue to oppose the Clean Power Plan during its bankruptcy.[75]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody_Energy


As we all know - having a different opinion than the environmentalists that is advertised by people being damaged by the idiotic claims of the True Believers is automatically a lie.
25-08-2017 21:55
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(10173)
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


The Parrot Killer
25-08-2017 22:04
Wake
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(4031)
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.
25-08-2017 22:23
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Paradox noted. Moving on.


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 20:49
GreenMan
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(661)
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Of course it is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. And it is also perfectly normal to research whatever it is that grant is intended to pay for. And that has nothing to do with socialists or big government. It merely implies that you get what you pay for. If I want a scientist to cook the books in my favor, then I simply give him a grant to make it look like something might be what it isn't. That's all they have to do. They don't have to prove anything, they just have to offer nice sounding arguments that are intended to confuse the public, and cast doubt on theories. Oil Companies have no interest in confirming Global Warming, yet they support scientists who supposedly work on Global Warming research. The implication is that they are not paying for research that proves Global Warming. Instead, they are paying for research that proves the opposite. That is legal for them to do. But you should be asking yourself why are they bothering to do that. Why don't they just stay out of it and let those who are interested in saving the world, save the world? Oh yeah, that's right. It's because Oil Companies don't stay in business if people stopped using their products, in an effort to save the world. And that is what this is. We are literally killing the world. And the likes of you have no problem with that.


~*~ GreenMan ~*~

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leftbehind/index.php
26-08-2017 20:57
GreenMan
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil. I think I said the wrong name earlier. It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

"Peabody has been an important actor in organized climate change denial. Until 2015, Peabody had claimed that global warming isn't a threat and emitting carbon dioxide is beneficial instead of being dangerous. The company also funded at least two dozen climate change denial organizations and front groups such as the George C. Marshall Institute, the Institute for Energy Research, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change as well as scientists being famous for their contrarian opinions, among them Willie Soon, Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer.[74] Nick Surgey, director of research for the Center for Media and Democracy, commented on the sheer scale of Peabody's funding activities: "We expected to see some denial money, but it looks like Peabody is the treasury for a very substantial part of the climate denial movement."[74][69] Peabody plans to continue to oppose the Clean Power Plan during its bankruptcy.[75]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody_Energy


As we all know - having a different opinion than the environmentalists that is advertised by people being damaged by the idiotic claims of the True Believers is automatically a lie.


Yet it is a lie, regardless. Peabody is being damaged by True Believers as you call them, and they will continue to be damaged by True Believers as time progresses. Eventually they will be completely out of business, and hopefully penniless. But I doubt that they will ever be penniless. If they had a functioning brain they would begin to invest some of their profits into renewable energy sources.


~*~ GreenMan ~*~

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leftbehind/index.php
26-08-2017 21:04
GreenMan
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Wake wrote:
Morons like greenman do not know that for every penny of profit that oil companies make, the government makes six cents. So he is willing to keep saying "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" when it is really the government who wants more out of your pocket.


And idiots like this lame brain, totally make things up about people, with no regard for their own integrity. All in the name of the Church of AGW Denial. Liars and Deniers. Feel free to produce any real quote of me saying that we should "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" please, or know that everyone who reads this will know that you are a deliberate liar, and therefore should not be trusted. Your opinion is nothing. Your wisdom is simply copy and paste.


~*~ GreenMan ~*~

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leftbehind/index.php
26-08-2017 21:39
GasGuzzler
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Feel free to produce any real quote of me saying that we should "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards"
Greenturd wrote
Peabody is being damaged by True Believers as you call them, and they will continue to be damaged by True Believers as time progresses. Eventually they will be completely out of business, and hopefully penniless.


Seriously dumbass, who else besides the federal government has the power to damage a company that offers a great product, at a great price, that everyone needs/wants and is willing to pay for?


spot-
Into the Night is also has delusions of comptance
Edited on 26-08-2017 21:50
26-08-2017 22:03
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Of course it is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. And it is also perfectly normal to research whatever it is that grant is intended to pay for. And that has nothing to do with socialists or big government. It merely implies that you get what you pay for. If I want a scientist to cook the books in my favor, then I simply give him a grant to make it look like something might be what it isn't. That's all they have to do. They don't have to prove anything, they just have to offer nice sounding arguments that are intended to confuse the public, and cast doubt on theories. Oil Companies have no interest in confirming Global Warming, yet they support scientists who supposedly work on Global Warming research. The implication is that they are not paying for research that proves Global Warming. Instead, they are paying for research that proves the opposite. That is legal for them to do. But you should be asking yourself why are they bothering to do that. Why don't they just stay out of it and let those who are interested in saving the world, save the world? Oh yeah, that's right. It's because Oil Companies don't stay in business if people stopped using their products, in an effort to save the world. And that is what this is. We are literally killing the world. And the likes of you have no problem with that.


Care to demonstrate more of your absolute stupidity? If you claim that Dr. Spencer is generating data that his "owners" want then why are you denying that NASA and NOAA generated exactly the data that Obama wanted? The hypocrisy and ignorance of you and your kind is staggering.
26-08-2017 22:17
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Of course it is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. And it is also perfectly normal to research whatever it is that grant is intended to pay for. And that has nothing to do with socialists or big government. It merely implies that you get what you pay for. If I want a scientist to cook the books in my favor, then I simply give him a grant to make it look like something might be what it isn't. That's all they have to do. They don't have to prove anything, they just have to offer nice sounding arguments that are intended to confuse the public, and cast doubt on theories. Oil Companies have no interest in confirming Global Warming, yet they support scientists who supposedly work on Global Warming research. The implication is that they are not paying for research that proves Global Warming. Instead, they are paying for research that proves the opposite. That is legal for them to do. But you should be asking yourself why are they bothering to do that. Why don't they just stay out of it and let those who are interested in saving the world, save the world? Oh yeah, that's right. It's because Oil Companies don't stay in business if people stopped using their products, in an effort to save the world. And that is what this is. We are literally killing the world. And the likes of you have no problem with that.

The world is not dying.

The population of many animals (including us) and plants is increasing. How do you account for that if the world is 'dying'?

We are growing more food for all those people all the time. How do you account for that if the world is dying?

A major hurricane is hitting Texas as we speak. They will rebuild. How do you account for that if the world is dying? Where are they getting their resources from?


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 22:20
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(10173)
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil. I think I said the wrong name earlier. It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

"Peabody has been an important actor in organized climate change denial. Until 2015, Peabody had claimed that global warming isn't a threat and emitting carbon dioxide is beneficial instead of being dangerous. The company also funded at least two dozen climate change denial organizations and front groups such as the George C. Marshall Institute, the Institute for Energy Research, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change as well as scientists being famous for their contrarian opinions, among them Willie Soon, Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer.[74] Nick Surgey, director of research for the Center for Media and Democracy, commented on the sheer scale of Peabody's funding activities: "We expected to see some denial money, but it looks like Peabody is the treasury for a very substantial part of the climate denial movement."[74][69] Peabody plans to continue to oppose the Clean Power Plan during its bankruptcy.[75]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody_Energy


As we all know - having a different opinion than the environmentalists that is advertised by people being damaged by the idiotic claims of the True Believers is automatically a lie.


Yet it is a lie, regardless. Peabody is being damaged by True Believers as you call them, and they will continue to be damaged by True Believers as time progresses. Eventually they will be completely out of business, and hopefully penniless. But I doubt that they will ever be penniless. If they had a functioning brain they would begin to invest some of their profits into renewable energy sources.


Karl Marx couldn't have said it better.


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 22:21
Wake
★★★★★
(4031)
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Of course it is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. And it is also perfectly normal to research whatever it is that grant is intended to pay for. And that has nothing to do with socialists or big government. It merely implies that you get what you pay for. If I want a scientist to cook the books in my favor, then I simply give him a grant to make it look like something might be what it isn't. That's all they have to do. They don't have to prove anything, they just have to offer nice sounding arguments that are intended to confuse the public, and cast doubt on theories. Oil Companies have no interest in confirming Global Warming, yet they support scientists who supposedly work on Global Warming research. The implication is that they are not paying for research that proves Global Warming. Instead, they are paying for research that proves the opposite. That is legal for them to do. But you should be asking yourself why are they bothering to do that. Why don't they just stay out of it and let those who are interested in saving the world, save the world? Oh yeah, that's right. It's because Oil Companies don't stay in business if people stopped using their products, in an effort to save the world. And that is what this is. We are literally killing the world. And the likes of you have no problem with that.

The world is not dying.

The population of many animals (including us) and plants is increasing. How do you account for that if the world is 'dying'?

We are growing more food for all those people all the time. How do you account for that if the world is dying?

A major hurricane is hitting Texas as we speak. They will rebuild. How do you account for that if the world is dying? Where are they getting their resources from?


Contrary to the media reports that is not a "major hurricane" for that area. Despite that they have gotten slack in the decade since the last hurricane made land there. These sorts of storms water all of north eastern Mexico and without that it would be too dry.
26-08-2017 22:23
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Morons like greenman do not know that for every penny of profit that oil companies make, the government makes six cents. So he is willing to keep saying "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" when it is really the government who wants more out of your pocket.


And idiots like this lame brain, totally make things up about people, with no regard for their own integrity. All in the name of the Church of AGW Denial. Liars and Deniers. Feel free to produce any real quote of me saying that we should "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" please, or know that everyone who reads this will know that you are a deliberate liar, and therefore should not be trusted. Your opinion is nothing. Your wisdom is simply copy and paste.


You want a real quote of you saying such? See post 188.

Your new paradox is noted.


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 22:23
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:

Yet it is a lie, regardless. Peabody is being damaged by True Believers as you call them, and they will continue to be damaged by True Believers as time progresses. Eventually they will be completely out of business, and hopefully penniless. But I doubt that they will ever be penniless. If they had a functioning brain they would begin to invest some of their profits into renewable energy sources.


You are almost an unbelievable twit. Tell us ALL what you believe that "renewable energy sources" are. This ought to be good coming from a fool.
26-08-2017 22:25
GasGuzzler
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To be a "major" hurricane it has to be Cat 3. This was a low end Cat 4. Still wondering why with all this warming it's been 12 years since the last land falling major hurricane.


spot-
Into the Night is also has delusions of comptance
26-08-2017 22:27
GreenMan
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(661)
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Of course it is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. And it is also perfectly normal to research whatever it is that grant is intended to pay for. And that has nothing to do with socialists or big government. It merely implies that you get what you pay for. If I want a scientist to cook the books in my favor, then I simply give him a grant to make it look like something might be what it isn't. That's all they have to do. They don't have to prove anything, they just have to offer nice sounding arguments that are intended to confuse the public, and cast doubt on theories. Oil Companies have no interest in confirming Global Warming, yet they support scientists who supposedly work on Global Warming research. The implication is that they are not paying for research that proves Global Warming. Instead, they are paying for research that proves the opposite. That is legal for them to do. But you should be asking yourself why are they bothering to do that. Why don't they just stay out of it and let those who are interested in saving the world, save the world? Oh yeah, that's right. It's because Oil Companies don't stay in business if people stopped using their products, in an effort to save the world. And that is what this is. We are literally killing the world. And the likes of you have no problem with that.

The world is not dying.

The population of many animals (including us) and plants is increasing. How do you account for that if the world is 'dying'?

We are growing more food for all those people all the time. How do you account for that if the world is dying?

A major hurricane is hitting Texas as we speak. They will rebuild. How do you account for that if the world is dying? Where are they getting their resources from?


I can account for that quite easily. It's like someone firing a lead projectile at you from a hundred yards away, and it is aimed properly so that the projectile will strike you right in the eye. You are being killed, but you will be fine until the lead passes through your eye and goes into your brain. We have just realized that we squeezed the trigger, and that the gun is pointing to our own head. You would have us all just stand there, and try to convince us that it's not a real gun. I'm thinking it's time to duck, or take some other evasive action.

People will rebuild as long as there are people. That is how I account for that. Not even sure what your point is, except some wild-assed attempt to distract by changing what I said from killing to dying. Big difference, idiot.


~*~ GreenMan ~*~

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leftbehind/index.php
26-08-2017 22:28
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Morons like greenman do not know that for every penny of profit that oil companies make, the government makes six cents. So he is willing to keep saying "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" when it is really the government who wants more out of your pocket.


And idiots like this lame brain, totally make things up about people, with no regard for their own integrity. All in the name of the Church of AGW Denial. Liars and Deniers. Feel free to produce any real quote of me saying that we should "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" please, or know that everyone who reads this will know that you are a deliberate liar, and therefore should not be trusted. Your opinion is nothing. Your wisdom is simply copy and paste.


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/gasoline-tax-profits/

You could have looked this up but you prefer to keep your eyes tightly shut and pretend that you actually know something. An ass by any other name brays just as loudly.
26-08-2017 22:32
Wake
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GasGuzzler wrote:
To be a "major" hurricane it has to be Cat 3. This was a low end Cat 4. Still wondering why with all this warming it's been 12 years since the last land falling major hurricane.


When the media can help the Democrats threaten the people of this country they are more than happy to do so. The greatest enemy of the American people at present is the media - the people that the founders of this country assumed would be those that sounded the bugle of danger.

Instead we have Marxism pouring from them in one steady stream. There's not a single word that comes from any of them that you can trust.
26-08-2017 22:58
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
You still haven't told us what oil company Dr. Spencer "accepted money from" and for what reasons?


He actually did. He named Peabody Oil. The company no longer exists.He never described a reason for the money though, other than vaguely inferring bribery.


Actually, it was Peabody Coal, not Oil.

It's the same company, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
I think I said the wrong name earlier.

No, you didn't.
GreenMan wrote:
It's also called Peabody Energy, and they are in bankruptcy. Here is a quote about them from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a source. They have shown their hand and it is biased.


It is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. The inference that such a grant guarantees bias is just the sort of thing that socialists use to imply that the only thing that can be trusted is Big Government.


Of course it is perfectly normal to accept grants for research. And it is also perfectly normal to research whatever it is that grant is intended to pay for. And that has nothing to do with socialists or big government. It merely implies that you get what you pay for. If I want a scientist to cook the books in my favor, then I simply give him a grant to make it look like something might be what it isn't. That's all they have to do. They don't have to prove anything, they just have to offer nice sounding arguments that are intended to confuse the public, and cast doubt on theories. Oil Companies have no interest in confirming Global Warming, yet they support scientists who supposedly work on Global Warming research. The implication is that they are not paying for research that proves Global Warming. Instead, they are paying for research that proves the opposite. That is legal for them to do. But you should be asking yourself why are they bothering to do that. Why don't they just stay out of it and let those who are interested in saving the world, save the world? Oh yeah, that's right. It's because Oil Companies don't stay in business if people stopped using their products, in an effort to save the world. And that is what this is. We are literally killing the world. And the likes of you have no problem with that.

The world is not dying.

The population of many animals (including us) and plants is increasing. How do you account for that if the world is 'dying'?

We are growing more food for all those people all the time. How do you account for that if the world is dying?

A major hurricane is hitting Texas as we speak. They will rebuild. How do you account for that if the world is dying? Where are they getting their resources from?


I can account for that quite easily. It's like someone firing a lead projectile at you from a hundred yards away, and it is aimed properly so that the projectile will strike you right in the eye. You are being killed, but you will be fine until the lead passes through your eye and goes into your brain. We have just realized that we squeezed the trigger, and that the gun is pointing to our own head. You would have us all just stand there, and try to convince us that it's not a real gun. I'm thinking it's time to duck, or take some other evasive action.

People will rebuild as long as there are people. That is how I account for that. Not even sure what your point is, except some wild-assed attempt to distract by changing what I said from killing to dying. Big difference, idiot.


You never answered the question. You just brought up a strawman (rather a grisly one). The closest you came was a restatement of one of my arguments as an 'answer'.


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 23:01
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Morons like greenman do not know that for every penny of profit that oil companies make, the government makes six cents. So he is willing to keep saying "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" when it is really the government who wants more out of your pocket.


And idiots like this lame brain, totally make things up about people, with no regard for their own integrity. All in the name of the Church of AGW Denial. Liars and Deniers. Feel free to produce any real quote of me saying that we should "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" please, or know that everyone who reads this will know that you are a deliberate liar, and therefore should not be trusted. Your opinion is nothing. Your wisdom is simply copy and paste.


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/gasoline-tax-profits/

You could have looked this up but you prefer to keep your eyes tightly shut and pretend that you actually know something. An ass by any other name brays just as loudly.


You are talking to a Marxist. I don't think you understand that ANY profit made an industry is evil in his eyes.


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 23:01
Wake
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GreenMan wrote: I can account for that quite easily. It's like someone firing a lead projectile at you from a hundred yards away, and it is aimed properly so that the projectile will strike you right in the eye. You are being killed, but you will be fine until the lead passes through your eye and goes into your brain. We have just realized that we squeezed the trigger, and that the gun is pointing to our own head. You would have us all just stand there, and try to convince us that it's not a real gun. I'm thinking it's time to duck, or take some other evasive action.

People will rebuild as long as there are people. That is how I account for that. Not even sure what your point is, except some wild-assed attempt to distract by changing what I said from killing to dying. Big difference, idiot.


I'm still waiting for you to give us a list of "renewable energy resources".

I particularly like the way you tell us that as things get better they are actually nothing more than the summer before the fall.
26-08-2017 23:02
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
To be a "major" hurricane it has to be Cat 3. This was a low end Cat 4. Still wondering why with all this warming it's been 12 years since the last land falling major hurricane.


When the media can help the Democrats threaten the people of this country they are more than happy to do so. The greatest enemy of the American people at present is the media - the people that the founders of this country assumed would be those that sounded the bugle of danger.

Instead we have Marxism pouring from them in one steady stream. There's not a single word that comes from any of them that you can trust.


There ARE a few good people in media, but they are few and far between.

People in this country (particularly in the cities) live behind what I like to call the Plastic Curtain. They don't know that Pravda is lying to them.


The Parrot Killer
26-08-2017 23:09
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
Morons like greenman do not know that for every penny of profit that oil companies make, the government makes six cents. So he is willing to keep saying "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" when it is really the government who wants more out of your pocket.


And idiots like this lame brain, totally make things up about people, with no regard for their own integrity. All in the name of the Church of AGW Denial. Liars and Deniers. Feel free to produce any real quote of me saying that we should "increase the taxes on those Big Oil bastards" please, or know that everyone who reads this will know that you are a deliberate liar, and therefore should not be trusted. Your opinion is nothing. Your wisdom is simply copy and paste.


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/gasoline-tax-profits/

You could have looked this up but you prefer to keep your eyes tightly shut and pretend that you actually know something. An ass by any other name brays just as loudly.


You are talking to a Marxist. I don't think you understand that ANY profit made an industry is evil in his eyes.


Greenman is going to say that the energy companies make 69% on the average. This is always an easy out for a moron that doesn't know that aside from that 31% of pure profit that government makes on a gallon of gas, that they also have to pay a half dozen different taxes that aren't covered in that list.

Factcheck is a Marxist site as well but they don't want to be caught too flatfooted.

The oil companies have to search for oil. They have to drill for oil. They have to transport the oil and they have to refine the oil. They have to pay taxes that aren't covered in that listing on ALL of those EXPENSES.

And then when it's all accounted for the government makes 6 times more profit off of oil that the oil companies do.

And the rotten stench of people like greenman tell us that it's all a lie.
26-08-2017 23:28
GasGuzzler
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Wake wrote;
They have to pay taxes that aren't covered in that listing on ALL of those EXPENSES.


I will only take issue with this statement. The oil company may write the check, but they don't pay for it. We do.

But your point of 6 times more profit is well taken.
Edited on 26-08-2017 23:29
26-08-2017 23:33
Wake
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Wake wrote;
They have to pay taxes that aren't covered in that listing on ALL of those EXPENSES.


I will only take issue with this statement. The oil company may write the check, but they don't pay for it. We do.

But your point of 6 times more profit is well taken.


Well, isn't that the case with ALL business?
26-08-2017 23:40
GasGuzzler
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Wake wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Wake wrote;
They have to pay taxes that aren't covered in that listing on ALL of those EXPENSES.


I will only take issue with this statement. The oil company may write the check, but they don't pay for it. We do.

But your point of 6 times more profit is well taken.


Well, isn't that the case with ALL business?


Absolutely. The libs claim to be on the side of the poor man, raise the gas taxes, and hurt him even more....and then cry that the wealthy have too much, the middle class is disappearing, and we need to take more from the wealthy in the name of fairness....and the oil companies are the greedy bastards.

By the way....Thank you for the new signature line.



spot-
Into the Night is also has delusions of comptance
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