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Fighting climate change by restoring nature22-06-2020 17:47
Charlie@TreeTop
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Trying to launch a new concept called TreeTop.

We believe that engaging people to restore nature is an effective way of tackling climate change. Our solution lets users pay regular, small amounts towards a newly area of woodland which we plant and maintain on their behalf - they can then track tree growth and the equivalent carbon capture through a mobile app / digital experience... they can interact with something tangible that they can see making a difference.

Would be great to get some feedback on whether this forum thinks that this would be a good climate change solution. One of many that are needed, of course.
22-06-2020 18:50
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Charlie@TreeTop wrote:
Trying to launch a new concept called TreeTop.

We believe that engaging people to restore nature is an effective way of tackling climate change. Our solution lets users pay regular, small amounts towards a newly area of woodland which we plant and maintain on their behalf - they can then track tree growth and the equivalent carbon capture through a mobile app / digital experience... they can interact with something tangible that they can see making a difference.

Would be great to get some feedback on whether this forum thinks that this would be a good climate change solution. One of many that are needed, of course.

Hi Charlie, and welcome to the forum. A few questions for you (assuming that you are speaking on a global level) ...

1) What do you mean by "restore nature"? What is the current state of nature, and what state are you attempting to bring nature back to?

2) What is "Climate Change"? How can there be a "solution" to something that is undefined?

3) How do you track how much carbon a tree is "capturing"?
22-06-2020 20:57
GasGuzzlerProfile picture★★★★☆
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Hi Charlie.

Hey just one question for you.

Is the app capable of tracking carbon release when a tree dies?
22-06-2020 22:05
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Charlie@TreeTop wrote:
Trying to launch a new concept called TreeTop.

We believe that engaging people to restore nature is an effective way of tackling climate change. Our solution lets users pay regular, small amounts towards a newly area of woodland which we plant and maintain on their behalf - they can then track tree growth and the equivalent carbon capture through a mobile app / digital experience... they can interact with something tangible that they can see making a difference.

Would be great to get some feedback on whether this forum thinks that this would be a good climate change solution. One of many that are needed, of course.

A few problems:

Define 'restore nature'.
Define 'climate change'.
Spamming carbon tax programs is spamming.
You can't have a 'solution' for what you cannot define.


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22-06-2020 22:06
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Hi Charlie.

Hey just one question for you.

Is the app capable of tracking carbon release when a tree dies?


For that matter, how is this app tracking trees that die?


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23-06-2020 00:11
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2 different science papers say planting trees isn't the answer.

One paper says that financial incentives to plant trees can backfire and reduce biodiversity with little impact on carbon emissions.

A separate project found that the amount of carbon that new forests can absorb may be overestimated.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/climate-change-planting-forests-more-150356762.html
23-06-2020 02:08
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James___ wrote:
2 different science papers say planting trees isn't the answer.

One paper says that financial incentives to plant trees can backfire and reduce biodiversity with little impact on carbon emissions.

A separate project found that the amount of carbon that new forests can absorb may be overestimated.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/climate-change-planting-forests-more-150356762.html


The answer to what? Climate change? Define 'climate change'.


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23-06-2020 04:02
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James___ wrote: 2 different science papers say planting trees isn't the answer.

They aren't science papers. They are "studies." This means that some political activist wants to publish his stupid opinion in a manner that presents his opinion as not his opinion.

James___ wrote: One paper says that financial incentives to plant trees can backfire and reduce biodiversity with little impact on carbon emissions.

Now that's some pretty heavy science right there, let me tell you.

James___ wrote: A separate project found that the amount of carbon that new forests can absorb may be overestimated.

How could that happen? Carbon absorption by "forests" is such an exact science that there's no way "they" can get that wrong.


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23-06-2020 10:25
HarveyH55
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Nature will take care of itself, if you let it. Planting stuff if farming, gardening, landscaping, not nature, not natural. Nature, isn't a tree in Central Park. Nature is when you leave shit alone. Basically, we are being asked to pay money, to make sure a wooded area, in Central Park, isn't left alone.

Would we get our money back, when they knock down the trees, to build a road, parking lot, condos, a stip mall?




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