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Failed Predictions23-07-2017 02:06
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Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


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23-07-2017 22:35
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StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


The Parrot Killer
24-07-2017 17:36
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


Starman, I think that it's time to add Nightmare onto the list of ignores. While it's not possible to determine any long term MGT changes to the degree of accuracy that we are being told, the idea that we cannot measure MGT is so stupid that I can hardly keep from laughing whenever I see a posting from Nightmare. This is the same guy that says that heat can't be measured via it's radiation.
24-07-2017 20:36
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


Starman, I think that it's time to add Nightmare onto the list of ignores. While it's not possible to determine any long term MGT changes to the degree of accuracy that we are being told, the idea that we cannot measure MGT is so stupid that I can hardly keep from laughing whenever I see a posting from Nightmare. This is the same guy that says that heat can't be measured via it's radiation.


When you can get your head outta the ground, you might want to go study statistical math, Wake.

You still think one thermometer in Seattle is good enough to measure the temperature of Washington State.

You should also learn about dependent and independent variables. You should also go figure out why calculating a temperature out of an unknown emissivity which is dependent on an unknown temperature is MAKING SHIT UP.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 01:50
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


Starman, I think that it's time to add Nightmare onto the list of ignores. While it's not possible to determine any long term MGT changes to the degree of accuracy that we are being told, the idea that we cannot measure MGT is so stupid that I can hardly keep from laughing whenever I see a posting from Nightmare. This is the same guy that says that heat can't be measured via it's radiation.


When you can get your head outta the ground, you might want to go study statistical math, Wake.

You still think one thermometer in Seattle is good enough to measure the temperature of Washington State.

You should also learn about dependent and independent variables. You should also go figure out why calculating a temperature out of an unknown emissivity which is dependent on an unknown temperature is MAKING SHIT UP.


You don't have to know emissivity and the temperature is completely known. But you don't even have a clue about this.
26-07-2017 02:10
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


Starman, I think that it's time to add Nightmare onto the list of ignores. While it's not possible to determine any long term MGT changes to the degree of accuracy that we are being told, the idea that we cannot measure MGT is so stupid that I can hardly keep from laughing whenever I see a posting from Nightmare. This is the same guy that says that heat can't be measured via it's radiation.


When you can get your head outta the ground, you might want to go study statistical math, Wake.

You still think one thermometer in Seattle is good enough to measure the temperature of Washington State.

You should also learn about dependent and independent variables. You should also go figure out why calculating a temperature out of an unknown emissivity which is dependent on an unknown temperature is MAKING SHIT UP.


You don't have to know emissivity and the temperature is completely known. But you don't even have a clue about this.


The temperature of the Earth is not known.

If you are going to calculate actual radiance using Stefan-Boltzmann, you must know the emissivity. This constant is a measured value.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 02:17
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


Starman, I think that it's time to add Nightmare onto the list of ignores. While it's not possible to determine any long term MGT changes to the degree of accuracy that we are being told, the idea that we cannot measure MGT is so stupid that I can hardly keep from laughing whenever I see a posting from Nightmare. This is the same guy that says that heat can't be measured via it's radiation.


When you can get your head outta the ground, you might want to go study statistical math, Wake.

You still think one thermometer in Seattle is good enough to measure the temperature of Washington State.

You should also learn about dependent and independent variables. You should also go figure out why calculating a temperature out of an unknown emissivity which is dependent on an unknown temperature is MAKING SHIT UP.


You don't have to know emissivity and the temperature is completely known. But you don't even have a clue about this.


The temperature of the Earth is not known.

If you are going to calculate actual radiance using Stefan-Boltzmann, you must know the emissivity. This constant is a measured value.


And yet another measure of how little you know.
26-07-2017 02:59
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
Predictions from the 1970's, era of the first Earth Day

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald

"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner


"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine

"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich

"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine

"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt


Funny how the 'solution' always seems to be the same regardless of whether the planet is warming or cooling.

Of course we have no idea what it's doing. It's not possible to determine a global temperature to any useful degree of accuracy.

We DO know the Church of Global Warming (or the Church of Global Cooling), stems from the Church of Karl Marx. The 'solutions' are always Marxist in nature.


Starman, I think that it's time to add Nightmare onto the list of ignores. While it's not possible to determine any long term MGT changes to the degree of accuracy that we are being told, the idea that we cannot measure MGT is so stupid that I can hardly keep from laughing whenever I see a posting from Nightmare. This is the same guy that says that heat can't be measured via it's radiation.


When you can get your head outta the ground, you might want to go study statistical math, Wake.

You still think one thermometer in Seattle is good enough to measure the temperature of Washington State.

You should also learn about dependent and independent variables. You should also go figure out why calculating a temperature out of an unknown emissivity which is dependent on an unknown temperature is MAKING SHIT UP.


You don't have to know emissivity and the temperature is completely known. But you don't even have a clue about this.


The temperature of the Earth is not known.

If you are going to calculate actual radiance using Stefan-Boltzmann, you must know the emissivity. This constant is a measured value.


And yet another measure of how little you know.

And yet another example of the argument of the Stone coupled with an ad hominem.

A fallacy is not a valid argument, dude.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 03:04
StarMan
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The SUBJECT of this thread is "Failed Predictions".

Let's stick to the subject and forget about Stefan-Boltzmann.
You're all geniuses. Stick to the subject. That shouldn't be too hard.
Find a few to add to these. Here's a simple one:

"Heavier-than-air flight is impossible." - Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society, 1895
It is the world's oldest scientific organization. Boy did this eminent scientist screw up, big time.
Sort of like Albert Einstein did when he fudged his equation to get the desired result, and get a steady state universe, then the "consensus" of all scientists.
26-07-2017 03:25
Surface Detail
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On a more upbeat note, here's news of a prediction that was spot on:

The First Climate Model Turns 50, And Predicted Global Warming Almost Perfectly
26-07-2017 03:38
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Surface Detail wrote:
On a more upbeat note, here's news of a prediction that was spot on:

The First Climate Model Turns 50, And Predicted Global Warming Almost Perfectly


Forbes is not a proof.

It is not possible to determine the temperature of the Earth.

You guys can't even define 'global warming' without resorting to circular definitions.


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 03:47
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(12315)
StarMan wrote:
The SUBJECT of this thread is "Failed Predictions".

Let's stick to the subject and forget about Stefan-Boltzmann.
You're all geniuses. Stick to the subject. That shouldn't be too hard.
Find a few to add to these. Here's a simple one:

"Heavier-than-air flight is impossible." - Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society, 1895
It is the world's oldest scientific organization. Boy did this eminent scientist screw up, big time.
Sort of like Albert Einstein did when he fudged his equation to get the desired result, and get a steady state universe, then the "consensus" of all scientists.


The Internet Will Catastrophically Collapse In 1996 – Robert Metcalfe In 1995
I suppose some would argue this has already happened.


The Cinema Is Nothing More Than A Fad – Charlie Chaplin In 1916
Poor Charlie. He didn't do well in after talkies came along.

Computers In The Future May Weigh No Less Than 1.5 Tons – Popular Mechanics In 1949
Most stuff in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazines came out pretty hilariously wrong. Popular Science once predicted we would be driving on our freeways at over 200 mph by now (not the 20 we often drive them at!).

It Is Not Likely That Man Can Ever Tap The Power Of The Atom – Robert Millikan In 1923
Wups. The odd thing about this one is that Millikan's work helped to do it!


The Parrot Killer
26-07-2017 16:43
Wake
★★★★★
(4031)
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
The SUBJECT of this thread is "Failed Predictions".

Let's stick to the subject and forget about Stefan-Boltzmann.
You're all geniuses. Stick to the subject. That shouldn't be too hard.
Find a few to add to these. Here's a simple one:

"Heavier-than-air flight is impossible." - Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society, 1895
It is the world's oldest scientific organization. Boy did this eminent scientist screw up, big time.
Sort of like Albert Einstein did when he fudged his equation to get the desired result, and get a steady state universe, then the "consensus" of all scientists.


The Internet Will Catastrophically Collapse In 1996 – Robert Metcalfe In 1995
I suppose some would argue this has already happened.


The Cinema Is Nothing More Than A Fad – Charlie Chaplin In 1916
Poor Charlie. He didn't do well in after talkies came along.

Computers In The Future May Weigh No Less Than 1.5 Tons – Popular Mechanics In 1949
Most stuff in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazines came out pretty hilariously wrong. Popular Science once predicted we would be driving on our freeways at over 200 mph by now (not the 20 we often drive them at!).

It Is Not Likely That Man Can Ever Tap The Power Of The Atom – Robert Millikan In 1923
Wups. The odd thing about this one is that Millikan's work helped to do it!


As usual you show that you don't know what's going on around you.
26-07-2017 19:26
Wake
★★★★★
(4031)
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
The SUBJECT of this thread is "Failed Predictions".

Let's stick to the subject and forget about Stefan-Boltzmann.
You're all geniuses. Stick to the subject. That shouldn't be too hard.
Find a few to add to these. Here's a simple one:

"Heavier-than-air flight is impossible." - Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society, 1895
It is the world's oldest scientific organization. Boy did this eminent scientist screw up, big time.
Sort of like Albert Einstein did when he fudged his equation to get the desired result, and get a steady state universe, then the "consensus" of all scientists.


The Internet Will Catastrophically Collapse In 1996 – Robert Metcalfe In 1995
I suppose some would argue this has already happened.


The Cinema Is Nothing More Than A Fad – Charlie Chaplin In 1916
Poor Charlie. He didn't do well in after talkies came along.

Computers In The Future May Weigh No Less Than 1.5 Tons – Popular Mechanics In 1949
Most stuff in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazines came out pretty hilariously wrong. Popular Science once predicted we would be driving on our freeways at over 200 mph by now (not the 20 we often drive them at!).

It Is Not Likely That Man Can Ever Tap The Power Of The Atom – Robert Millikan In 1923
Wups. The odd thing about this one is that Millikan's work helped to do it!


BECAUSE of Metcalfe's warnings the Internet was improved. But an ignoramus would say that a warning is a false prediction.

Poor old Charlie Chaplin was so bad after "talkies" came along that he was the co-owner of United Artists Studios and directed films almost to his death in 1977. He even starred in a film directed by Orson Welles.

IBM Qubit computers - a quantum computer - presently weighs a couple of tons since it is a superconducting computer that requires all of the machinery to cool it to near zero kelvin.

It's even more hilarious that you compare a traffic jam with the capacity of a freeway.

The bottom line is that you haven't a clue what is going on in the world and are the expert. You do not understand the difference between something being true and it being the truth.

If you are not SurfaceDefect you are most certainly his mirror image.
26-07-2017 21:21
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(12315)
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
StarMan wrote:
The SUBJECT of this thread is "Failed Predictions".

Let's stick to the subject and forget about Stefan-Boltzmann.
You're all geniuses. Stick to the subject. That shouldn't be too hard.
Find a few to add to these. Here's a simple one:

"Heavier-than-air flight is impossible." - Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society, 1895
It is the world's oldest scientific organization. Boy did this eminent scientist screw up, big time.
Sort of like Albert Einstein did when he fudged his equation to get the desired result, and get a steady state universe, then the "consensus" of all scientists.


The Internet Will Catastrophically Collapse In 1996 – Robert Metcalfe In 1995
I suppose some would argue this has already happened.


The Cinema Is Nothing More Than A Fad – Charlie Chaplin In 1916
Poor Charlie. He didn't do well in after talkies came along.

Computers In The Future May Weigh No Less Than 1.5 Tons – Popular Mechanics In 1949
Most stuff in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazines came out pretty hilariously wrong. Popular Science once predicted we would be driving on our freeways at over 200 mph by now (not the 20 we often drive them at!).

It Is Not Likely That Man Can Ever Tap The Power Of The Atom – Robert Millikan In 1923
Wups. The odd thing about this one is that Millikan's work helped to do it!


BECAUSE of Metcalfe's warnings the Internet was improved. But an ignoramus would say that a warning is a false prediction.

The internet was not 'improved'. Ethernet became more commonplace and saved it. The internet itself is still basically the same as when Metcalfe made his prediction. The introduction of IPv6 made very little difference. Most systems still use IPv4. If they DO use IPv6, it is to shadow IPv4.
Wake wrote:
Poor old Charlie Chaplin was so bad after "talkies" came along that he was the co-owner of United Artists Studios and directed films almost to his death in 1977. He even starred in a film directed by Orson Welles.

But his film career in front of the camera basically ended.
Wake wrote:
IBM Qubit computers - a quantum computer - presently weighs a couple of tons since it is a superconducting computer that requires all of the machinery to cool it to near zero kelvin.

Go read the quote again, dumbass. You apparently confuse the word 'any' with 'all'.
Wake wrote:
It's even more hilarious that you compare a traffic jam with the capacity of a freeway.

I am not comparing a traffic jam with the capacity of a freeway. Go read the comment again, dumbass.
Wake wrote:
The bottom line is that you haven't a clue what is going on in the world and are the expert. You do not understand the difference between something being true and it being the truth.

Contextomy. There is a difference between something being true and the Truth (as in Universal Truth).
Wake wrote:
If you are not SurfaceDefect you are most certainly his mirror image.

You have said this before. You apparently have never looked at any of the conversations I have had with Surface Detail.

Pretty soon you'll think I'm some steenkin' rotting puking re-pub-li-kan version of litebeer.


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