15-12-2017 00:49 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
Robertgreene3 wrote: And I understand you don't know the full implications of what you're saying. You'll catch all kinds of flack here but just consider it a learning experience. |
15-12-2017 14:11 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
I have an ethical solution to overpopulation. Instead of sponsor a child, it's called "sponsor a vasectomy". The most racist thing we can do to the third world, is ignore it, and let them breed at unsustainable levels, while the globalist continue to exploit their endless supply of cheap labor. If $100 could pay for 50 vasectomies, i'd give that money in a heartbeat. As third world populations start to stabilize, wages would start to go up, and their quality of life, and environment would improve. I'd only have one condition, the vasectomy can only be performed after a fathers second child. We have to respect the dignity of a normal family size. I think that's an ethical compromise, that still encourages parenthood, at a reasonable level. I would also refuse to pay a carbon tax to environmental scammers, until the agree to use that money to pay for ethical solutions to fight overpopulation. We shouldn't tolerate the hypocrisy. Take this conversation to other forums. And sell the concept of "Ethical Depopulation" as a solution to the environment, climate change, and quality of life, for the world's citizens. Let's lobby for wide-scale vasectomies programs to be paid for by governments, and charities. Start a research pool, and get documentaries made. Demand that media cover this issue. Overpopulation is the number one cause of climate change, but their are ethical ways to slow it down. Do not compromise on political correctness, but be as ethical as possible. |
15-12-2017 18:11 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
Robertgreene3 wrote: Have you had a vasectomy? |
15-12-2017 18:28 | |
GasGuzzler★★★★★ (3039) |
What a great idea for stocking stuffers this Christmas! Vasectomy/lessadicktomy gift cards! Robert, you're kind of a dumbass. |
15-12-2017 18:33 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
GasGuzzler wrote: Well, I have to say that I was rather shocked with that last statement of his. That comes straight from the Klu Klux Klan playbook. This was Margaret Sanger from the ground up. |
15-12-2017 18:50 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
Obamacare in jeopardy, states protect no-cost contraception, including vasectomy http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/20/health/states-protect-no-cost-contraception-and-vasectomy-aca/index.html Historically, family planning has been covered in this country for a variety of reasons, according to Applegate. Primarily, it has been seen as a very cost-effective method of providing the public health benefit of fewer unintended pregnancies and fewer preterm babies. |
15-12-2017 19:00 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
monckton wrote: Since only 8,000 people got free Obama-care how would 24,000 people be health compromised if Obama-care was repealed? Obama-care WILL be repealed as every single doctor and hospital wants and the majority of this population. And it would be a good idea if the stinking foreigners would keep their own systems and stay out of ours. |
15-12-2017 19:07 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
What are you doing on this stinking foreign forum? Looks like you've wandered off the reservation. |
15-12-2017 19:11 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
Speaking of yankee-go-home ... Syria – ISIS Is Defeated – The U.S. Is Next In Line https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/12/11/syria-isis-defeated-u-s-next-line/ ..."My message to the US military command: when the battle against ISIS (the Islamic State group) will end, no American soldier will be tolerated in Syria. I advise you to leave by your own will or you will be forced to it." |
15-12-2017 19:16 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
monckton wrote: Since the US will not allow in immigrants from Syria or Iraq now, Great Britain has been accepting them. They now have several thousands of ISIS members in Great Britain. With any luck, monckton will be a victim of the next suicide bombing. |
15-12-2017 19:24 | |
litesong★★★★★ (2297) |
monckton wrote: What are you doing on this stinking foreign forum?Correction(sp): the word is spelled 'steenkin'..... & more accurately, "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebag steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whinerisms" forum. |
15-12-2017 19:28 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
Well, at least they haven't been through basic training ... "...The increased violence around Fort Carson began at the start of the Iraq war. A 126-page Army report known as an "Epidemiological Consultation" released in 2009 found that the murder rate around the Army's third-largest post had doubled and that the number of rape arrests had tripled. As David Philipps wrote in Lethal Warriors, his 2010 book about the crime spree, "In the year after the battalion returned from Iraq, the per-capita murder rate for this small group of soldiers was a hundred times greater than the national average." War Is Hell, and the Hell Rubs Off http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/04/ptsd_and_violence_by_veterans_increased_murder_rates_related_to_war_experience.html Edited on 15-12-2017 19:30 |
15-12-2017 19:30 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
monckton wrote: Gee - wasn't that the Obama military? |
15-12-2017 19:36 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
I thought it was the American military. Has Trump turned his back on the troops? Shame. They're already killing themselves quicker than the enemy. Must be some ethical de-population initiative. Go Troops! Veterans Day: Suicide has caused more American casualties than wars in Iraq and Afghanistan http://www.mercurynews.com/2015/11/10/veterans-day-suicide-has-caused-more-american-casualties-than-wars-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/ |
15-12-2017 19:39 | |
litesong★★★★★ (2297) |
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebag steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner & many time(plus 1) threatener wake-me-up" wiffed: With any luck, monckton will be a victim of the next suicide bombing."old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebag steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner & many time (plus 1) threatener wake-me-up" wanted "luck" to be changed to first person "action" & its post IS another "threat". Edited on 15-12-2017 19:52 |
15-12-2017 20:50 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
Ok guys lets tone it down for a minute, and share a few good songs. There's times to complain, and there is times to celebrate what's beautiful. Here's a great song about country roads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXLa_ZwuxHg Edited on 15-12-2017 20:59 |
15-12-2017 21:12 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
monckton wrote: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/armed-forces-suicide-every-2-7503692 When is the British Parliament going to get around to Brexit again? They really hear the British people loud and clear don't they? |
15-12-2017 21:54 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
Well you can expect more wars, as the world runs out of resources. Iraq was about oil. That's why overpopulation is a bad thing during resource depletion. All roads lead to overpopulation. Everything is connected to overpopulation, in one form or another, If you want to solve climate change, prevent deforestation, and prevent war, you have to do something to slow down out rapid population growth. When you begin to solve overpopulation, you being to solve every environmental problem. You don't just 2 birds with one stone, you kill the entire flock. Trying to contain the symptoms of overpopulation, is like playing a game of wack-a-mole. It's better to go after the root cause, than try and treat each symptom separately. If you disagree, name one environmental problem, that doesn't get worse with rapid population growth? https://blog.dssresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/world_population_1050_to_2050.jpg Edited on 15-12-2017 22:03 |
15-12-2017 23:08 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Robertgreene3 wrote: The world isn't running out of resources. Robertgreene3 wrote: The war in Iraq was about Saddam Hussein, not oil. His invasion of Kuwait and later threats against his neighboring nations was about expanding his territory into what he viewed as 'old' Iraq. It was a religious war, more than anything else. We already have oil. We use no Iraqi oil. We use no Mideast oil at all. Kuwait already has oil. So does Iraq. It wasn't about oil. Robertgreene3 wrote: There is no overpopulation. there is no 'resource depletion'. Oil is a renewable resource. So is natural gas. So is water. Robertgreene3 wrote: What overpopulation? Robertgreene3 wrote: Nothing is, because the world is not overpopulated. Robertgreene3 wrote: Define 'climate change' without using circular definitions. Robertgreene3 wrote: We have more forests than ever. The trees that Weyerhaeuser cuts down are farmed. Robertgreene3 wrote: You want to prevent war? Remove every dictator and oligarchy from power. Get religion out of a reason for war. Allow free market for everyone. People generally don't shoot their customers. Oops, to remove the dictators and oligarchies, you have to go to war. To convince a religion from using that excuse for war, you'll have to go to war. Robertgreene3 wrote: Why? Population growth means we have the means to grow. That's a bad thing? Robertgreene3 wrote: There is no overpopulation. Robertgreene3 wrote: I thought you said you didn't want war. Now you want to kill entire flocks of birds? Robertgreene3 wrote: What overpopulation? Robertgreene3 wrote: The root cause of what? YOUR idea of overpopulation? Who decides the world is suddenly overpopulated? You??? Robertgreene3 wrote: Chernobyl. Red tide. Smog. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
15-12-2017 23:45 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
Without overpopulation, the demand for lumber and farmland would be marginable. The severe deforestation in Borneo is caused by overpopulation. If the human species has become powerful enough to whip out most of the worlds rain forests, than there are too many people on the planet. That's how I define overpopulation. Edited on 15-12-2017 23:52 |
15-12-2017 23:51 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
Robertgreene3 wrote: There was NO WAY of telling the forestation of Borneo before Satellite imagery in the early 80's. Likewise guess as to what is going to happen are nothing more that guesses. If you want to see what "predictions" came true look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events |
15-12-2017 23:52 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Wake wrote:Robertgreene3 wrote: Heh. Well argued. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
15-12-2017 23:55 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
There was NO WAY of telling the forestation of Borneo before Satellite imagery in the early 80's. Likewise guess as to what is going to happen are nothing more that guesses. They had aerial photographs before the 1980's. They had ground photographs going back to the 19th century. The had written records going back centuries. You're telling me, that had no idea how big the forests of Borneo were before the 1980's. Maybe you can try a little harder. Edited on 16-12-2017 00:09 |
16-12-2017 00:06 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Robertgreene3 wrote: It is not caused by overpopulation. There isn't any overpopulation. Borneo's forests were cut down by lumberers for the Japanese market...rather indiscriminately I might add. A major loss of these forests was also due to forest fire that was left to burn itself out naturally. They lumberers cut and don't plant, quite a different practice to that here in the United States and many other nations. Borneo is not the 'worlds forests'. It is a tiny island. Mishandling of this resource is not caused by overpopulation. There is no overpopulation. Hopefully, the government of Borneo will realize the loss of their forest to such indiscriminate uses, and install better protections for it. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
16-12-2017 00:20 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
Borneo is not the 'worlds forests'. It is a tiny island. Mishandling of this resource is not caused by overpopulation. There is no overpopulation. Borneo's area is 743,330 km2 Germany's area is 357,376 km² Borneo is over twice the size of Germany. What gives you the right to call it a "Tiny Island"? |
16-12-2017 00:30 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
Robertgreene3 wrote:There was NO WAY of telling the forestation of Borneo before Satellite imagery in the early 80's. Likewise guess as to what is going to happen are nothing more that guesses. Robert - who were these people flying aircraft over Borneo? Where were the airfields and who do you believe had aircraft? Even the Japanese didn't have aircraft there during the war because of conditions there and after the war the political unrest between the various warring factions prevented much about Borneo from being known by anyone but the native tribes. Where in the hell are you getting the idea that the Earth is yours to toy with? |
16-12-2017 00:46 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Robertgreene3 wrote:Borneo is not the 'worlds forests'. It is a tiny island. Mishandling of this resource is not caused by overpopulation. There is no overpopulation. The fact that it is only twice the size of Germany. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 16-12-2017 01:01 |
16-12-2017 00:55 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Wake wrote:Robertgreene3 wrote:There was NO WAY of telling the forestation of Borneo before Satellite imagery in the early 80's. Likewise guess as to what is going to happen are nothing more that guesses. Us. Wake wrote: Kuching airfield. We also flew over the island to bomb the Japanese. Wake wrote: The United States. Wake wrote: There were aircraft based there in 1941. They had an oil refinery there. That's why we bombed it in 1943. Wake wrote: He doesn't have that idea. I guess you haven't been listening to his arguments. He has a fear of what he refers to as 'overpopulation' destroying the resources of Earth. He simply has a vague 'solution' that something about 'overpopulation' must be done (but no specific solution, since all of those are ethically incorrect). The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan Edited on 16-12-2017 01:00 |
16-12-2017 06:08 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
Robertgreene3 wrote: OK ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl3z4fDz8DQ "Bring us your sick and tired, your educated ..." |
16-12-2017 12:33 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
He has a fear of what he refers to as 'overpopulation' destroying the resources of Earth. He simply has a vague 'solution' that something about 'overpopulation' must be done (but no specific solution, since all of those are ethically incorrect). Let me ask you this. If you were a paid policy adviser, and you were asked to come up with solutions to deal with overpopulation, that are ethical, what solutions would you recommend? I rather hear the difference of opinions on the solutions to overpopulation, than only debate on weather or not it exists. If you disagree with a wide-scale vasectomy method, what other ideas do you have, that could be ethical, and get meaningful results? I want to see links, articles, ideas, and concepts, showing things that are actually being done to fight overpopulation in 2017. Edited on 16-12-2017 13:05 |
16-12-2017 13:49 | |
Robertgreene3☆☆☆☆☆ (19) |
Into the Night wrote:Robertgreene3 wrote:Borneo is not the 'worlds forests'. It is a tiny island. Mishandling of this resource is not caused by overpopulation. There is no overpopulation. Do you still consider the third largest island in the world a "Tiny Island"? https://www.theworldorbust.com/the-five-largest-islands-in-the-world/ Edited on 16-12-2017 13:52 |
17-12-2017 01:26 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
Robertgreene3 wrote:He has a fear of what he refers to as 'overpopulation' destroying the resources of Earth. He simply has a vague 'solution' that something about 'overpopulation' must be done (but no specific solution, since all of those are ethically incorrect). Quite frankly I would advise taking you and all of the people like you and dipping them in lye. |
17-12-2017 01:55 | |
litesong★★★★★ (2297) |
[b]Robertgreene3 wrote:.... solutions to deal with overpopulation, that are ethical, what solutions would you recommend?Increase wages securely to low & middle income workers who are the wealth builders of countries, such that they will be able to take care of themselves in old age. Birth rates will automatically come down. |
17-12-2017 02:05 | |
litesong★★★★★ (2297) |
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebag steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner & many time (plus 1) threatener wake-me-up" wiffed: I would advise taking you and all of the people like you and dipping them in lye."old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimebag steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner & many time (plus 1) threatener wake-me-up" threatens again. |
17-12-2017 20:39 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Robertgreene3 wrote:He has a fear of what he refers to as 'overpopulation' destroying the resources of Earth. He simply has a vague 'solution' that something about 'overpopulation' must be done (but no specific solution, since all of those are ethically incorrect). I wouldn't. I would say the same thing I am telling you. There is no overpopulation. Robertgreene3 wrote: You would rather hear the debate on whether a candle represents one or two gods, rather than debate on whether it's worth lighting the candle at all. Robertgreene3 wrote: That's ethical??? Robertgreene3 wrote: There are no ethical ways. There is also no overpopulation. Robertgreene3 wrote: Why? So you can find new ways to believe in this particular religion? The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2017 20:39 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Robertgreene3 wrote:Into the Night wrote:Robertgreene3 wrote:Borneo is not the 'worlds forests'. It is a tiny island. Mishandling of this resource is not caused by overpopulation. There is no overpopulation. Yes. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2017 20:40 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
Wake wrote:Robertgreene3 wrote:He has a fear of what he refers to as 'overpopulation' destroying the resources of Earth. He simply has a vague 'solution' that something about 'overpopulation' must be done (but no specific solution, since all of those are ethically incorrect). Why? Because they're clueless? Your violent tendencies are showing up again. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2017 20:41 | |
Into the Night★★★★★ (22531) |
litesong wrote:[b]Robertgreene3 wrote:.... solutions to deal with overpopulation, that are ethical, what solutions would you recommend?Increase wages securely to low & middle income workers who are the wealth builders of countries, such that they will be able to take care of themselves in old age. Birth rates will automatically come down. Wages are set by price discovery...the free market. All price controls do is cause shortages. The minimum wage law is a good example. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
17-12-2017 23:48 | |
Wake★★★★★ (4034) |
Into the Night wrote:Wake wrote:Robertgreene3 wrote:He has a fear of what he refers to as 'overpopulation' destroying the resources of Earth. He simply has a vague 'solution' that something about 'overpopulation' must be done (but no specific solution, since all of those are ethically incorrect). So YOU believe that people talking about depopulation of the world should be treated with kid gloves. Hitler and Stalin would have gotten along really well with you. |
18-12-2017 00:37 | |
monckton★★★☆☆ (436) |
Boy, what a game of cards that would be. Which poses an ethical dilemma. If you could travel back in time and play cards with Hitler and Stalin ... would you cheat? |
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