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Equinox and predictions23-09-2024 21:48
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Now that the autumnal equinox has passed and it is officially autumn. How long do you think it will be before someone claims climate change due to some storm system or heavy snow?

Predictions are welcome.


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24-09-2024 05:49
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Into the Night wrote:
Now that the autumnal equinox has passed and it is officially autumn. How long do you think it will be before someone claims climate change due to some storm system or heavy snow?

Predictions are welcome.


This will come to pass this week, i.e. your timing is excellent.

Seriously, watch for Climate Change chatter to really pick up starting about Wednesday/Thursday.
28-09-2024 18:28
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IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Now that the autumnal equinox has passed and it is officially autumn. How long do you think it will be before someone claims climate change due to some storm system or heavy snow?

Predictions are welcome.


This will come to pass this week, i.e. your timing is excellent.

Seriously, watch for Climate Change chatter to really pick up starting about Wednesday/Thursday.

A good solid prediction. So far, however, nothing here on the English Climate Debate. Some activity DID show on other forums, but not much.

The Babylon Bee did point out that a hurricane, arriving through hurricane alley, during hurricane season, was blamed on 'climate change'!

The thing did kind of make a mess out of some mountain towns in Tennessee.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
29-09-2024 03:13
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Now that the autumnal equinox has passed and it is officially autumn. How long do you think it will be before someone claims climate change due to some storm system or heavy snow?

Predictions are welcome.


This will come to pass this week, i.e. your timing is excellent.

Seriously, watch for Climate Change chatter to really pick up starting about Wednesday/Thursday.

A good solid prediction. So far, however, nothing here on the English Climate Debate. Some activity DID show on other forums, but not much.

The Babylon Bee did point out that a hurricane, arriving through hurricane alley, during hurricane season, was blamed on 'climate change'!

The thing did kind of make a mess out of some mountain towns in Tennessee.

I have read many articles in standard publications, such as the Washington Post and many others, concerning what we can learn specifically from Helene about how Climate Change intensifies hurricanes and why we should panic and fear and flee to the hills. There was absolutely no definition of the global climate, by the way, in any of them. I'd ask Robert Northup for that definition but he will play his word games by claiming that I am playing word games. He will claim that everyone knows the unambiguous definition of the global climate, but if I ask him how anyone could possibly know since nobody has ever unambiguously defined the global climate, he will only play more word games by claiming that I am playing word games.

So basically many people are absolutely convinced that we could learn a great deal from Helene about something they have no idea what it is.
29-09-2024 04:37
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Good call then, but that's to be expected of the Associated Press and related media such as the Washington Compost. I was looking specifically in forums.

Robert seems to be restricting himself to throwing random insults in private mail at the moment.
Edited on 29-09-2024 04:39
30-09-2024 01:41
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Into the Night wrote:
Good call then, but that's to be expected of the Associated Press and related media such as the Washington Compost. I was looking specifically in forums.

I think your results will be skewed considering the work you and I have done to reduce the absurd commentary about Climate Change on the fora we frequent.
30-09-2024 04:07
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Good call then, but that's to be expected of the Associated Press and related media such as the Washington Compost. I was looking specifically in forums.

I think your results will be skewed considering the work you and I have done to reduce the absurd commentary about Climate Change on the fora we frequent.

Good point. The Church of Global Warming has less and less influence on forums.

Of course, there was the current distraction from the Church of Covid and the current distraction from the Church of Hate.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 30-09-2024 04:08
02-10-2024 19:37
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Into the Night wrote:Good point. The Church of Global Warming has less and less influence on forums.

Of course, there was the current distraction from the Church of Covid and the current distraction from the Church of Hate.

Something for gfm7175 to look for in days to come is the term (or some variation thereof) "climate-fueled."

A subjunctive fallacy is being legitimized through this term/concept, i.e. that all disasters, or even just weather events, are stronger and have more impact than they otherwise would have had if CLIMATE hadn't FUELED them to the level we are experiencing and observing.

This will then be followed by mockery directed at "Climate deniers" for "denying" those observed events and impacts which are "obviously" increasing in intensity over the "historical record."
03-10-2024 07:29
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October 2 2024 in the Bay Area shatters October heat record.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/weather/article/san-jose-october-heat-record-19811577.php

Marathon heat wave persisting all week long.

Unprecedented.


05-10-2024 21:29
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
October 2 2024 in the Bay Area shatters October heat record.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/weather/article/san-jose-october-heat-record-19811577.php

Marathon heat wave persisting all week long.

Unprecedented.

Must be all that shit on the sidewalks.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
06-10-2024 00:45
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
October 2 2024 in the Bay Area shatters October heat record.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/weather/article/san-jose-october-heat-record-19811577.php

Marathon heat wave persisting all week long.

Unprecedented.

Must be all that shit on the sidewalks.


There's no denying, downtown SF stinks in the heat.

And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

I bought some charcoal to fry up some pork chops, once the ashes cool, I dump them on the compost and it cures the smell.


06-10-2024 22:41
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Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.
07-10-2024 08:59
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IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!


08-10-2024 01:18
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Could Hurricane Milton pack a greater punch than the greats, Ian, Andrew, Michael?

It is now a category 5 hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with max winds of 180 mph
. You can't get stronger than that!

It is estimated to weaken to a category 3 when it hits land, and pummels Tampa.

https://apnews.com/live/hurricane-milton-florida-tracker-updates



Edited on 08-10-2024 01:19
08-10-2024 05:12
GasGuzzler
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Could Hurricane Milton pack a greater punch than the greats, Ian, Andrew, Michael?

It is now a category 5 hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with max winds of 180 mph
. You can't get stronger than that!


Well now it looks like you are quite wrong about that.

There was Allen at 190 mph 44 years ago.
There was "Labor Day" hurricane at 185 mph 89 years ago.
There was Gilbert at 185 mph 36 years ago.
There was Wilma at 185 mph 19 years ago.
There was Dorian at 185 mph 5 years ago.

Clearly this Milton is a beast, but these things have been happening for centuries. Please, don't let me interrupt your climate change worship service.


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
08-10-2024 05:14
GasGuzzler
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Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!

Did you mean to say record temperature?


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
08-10-2024 22:08
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Could Hurricane Milton pack a greater punch than the greats, Ian, Andrew, Michael?

It is now a category 5 hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with max winds of 180 mph
. You can't get stronger than that!


Well now it looks like you are quite wrong about that.

There was Allen at 190 mph 44 years ago.
There was "Labor Day" hurricane at 185 mph 89 years ago.
There was Gilbert at 185 mph 36 years ago.
There was Wilma at 185 mph 19 years ago.
There was Dorian at 185 mph 5 years ago.

Clearly this Milton is a beast, but these things have been happening for centuries. Please, don't let me interrupt your climate change worship service.


Tsk, tsk


08-10-2024 22:21
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!

Did you mean to say record temperature?


Heat and temperature are very closely related. However, they are not the same. Temperature is a measurement of the average kinetic energy of particles in an object. Heat is a flow of energy from an object at a higher temperature to an object at a lower temperature.

Looks like either word works.

It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?


10-10-2024 05:19
Im a BM
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Will God "flip" Florida for Harris?

Some believe that God consciously directs natural events as part of the great design.

Is God aiming a monster storm to kneecap Republican voter turnout in Florida?

If the Georgia congress woman is correct, the storm is being deliberately targeted at central Florida by sinister human beings.

"They" control the weather.

Whatever caused the record setting monster storm to form as it did and set its sights on the more Republican leaning parts of Florida, its impact may "flip" the crucial battleground state.

Finding the motivation to jump through hoops in order to vote may be difficult for those who have had to evacuate.

More Republicans than Democrats will be impacted.

More R's than D's will be trying to find their pets and clean up what is left of their homes, when they are finally allowed to return.

As a scientist, I am confident that this is not the result of some nefarious "they" controlling the weather with human technology.

My faith does not include a malicious God who would ever make the conscious choice to have a storm cause harm where it would not have otherwise.

Climate change is real.

As a scientist, I know that the evidence is OVERWHELMING and irrefutable.

2024 has been a very much in-your-face year for climate change.

My heart aches for those in Florida who are about to suffer the consequences.

Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Could Hurricane Milton pack a greater punch than the greats, Ian, Andrew, Michael?

It is now a category 5 hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with max winds of 180 mph
. You can't get stronger than that!


Well now it looks like you are quite wrong about that.

There was Allen at 190 mph 44 years ago.
There was "Labor Day" hurricane at 185 mph 89 years ago.
There was Gilbert at 185 mph 36 years ago.
There was Wilma at 185 mph 19 years ago.
There was Dorian at 185 mph 5 years ago.

Clearly this Milton is a beast, but these things have been happening for centuries. Please, don't let me interrupt your climate change worship service.


Tsk, tsk
10-10-2024 08:01
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Im a BM wrote:
Will God "flip" Florida for Harris?

Some believe that God consciously directs natural events as part of the great design.

Is God aiming a monster storm to kneecap Republican voter turnout in Florida?

If the Georgia congress woman is correct, the storm is being deliberately targeted at central Florida by sinister human beings.

"They" control the weather.

Whatever caused the record setting monster storm to form as it did and set its sights on the more Republican leaning parts of Florida, its impact may "flip" the crucial battleground state.

Finding the motivation to jump through hoops in order to vote may be difficult for those who have had to evacuate.

More Republicans than Democrats will be impacted.

More R's than D's will be trying to find their pets and clean up what is left of their homes, when they are finally allowed to return.

As a scientist, I am confident that this is not the result of some nefarious "they" controlling the weather with human technology.

My faith does not include a malicious God who would ever make the conscious choice to have a storm cause harm where it would not have otherwise.

Climate change is real.

As a scientist, I know that the evidence is OVERWHELMING and irrefutable.

2024 has been a very much in-your-face year for climate change.

My heart aches for those in Florida who are about to suffer the consequences.

Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Could Hurricane Milton pack a greater punch than the greats, Ian, Andrew, Michael?

It is now a category 5 hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with max winds of 180 mph
. You can't get stronger than that!


Well now it looks like you are quite wrong about that.

There was Allen at 190 mph 44 years ago.
There was "Labor Day" hurricane at 185 mph 89 years ago.
There was Gilbert at 185 mph 36 years ago.
There was Wilma at 185 mph 19 years ago.
There was Dorian at 185 mph 5 years ago.

Clearly this Milton is a beast, but these things have been happening for centuries. Please, don't let me interrupt your climate change worship service.


Tsk, tsk


Hurricane season is usually about June to November in the Atlantic I hear.

Weather seems pretty chaotic. The general trends are usually easy to predict, but trying to predict which way the wind will blow, nobody seems to be able to do beyond about 3 to 10 days.

I'm certain the indications of global warming since about 1800 are pretty accurate.

I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

While the indications of global warming may seem minor, I come to this website to ring the alarm bell that global warming is cause for extinction event concern. But I do not know how long we can keep hitting the snooze button.


11-10-2024 05:31
GasGuzzler
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Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Could Hurricane Milton pack a greater punch than the greats, Ian, Andrew, Michael?

It is now a category 5 hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with max winds of 180 mph
. You can't get stronger than that!


Well now it looks like you are quite wrong about that.

There was Allen at 190 mph 44 years ago.
There was "Labor Day" hurricane at 185 mph 89 years ago.
There was Gilbert at 185 mph 36 years ago.
There was Wilma at 185 mph 19 years ago.
There was Dorian at 185 mph 5 years ago.

Clearly this Milton is a beast, but these things have been happening for centuries. Please, don't let me interrupt your climate change worship service.


Tsk, tsk

Great point!


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
11-10-2024 05:40
GasGuzzler
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Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

There are three forms of heat. They are conduction, convection and radiation. Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

No.


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
11-10-2024 06:51
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!

Heat is not a record. Climate cannot change.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
11-10-2024 06:54
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!

Did you mean to say record temperature?


Heat and temperature are very closely related.

Heat has no temperature.
Spongy Iris wrote:
However, they are not the same. Temperature is a measurement of the average kinetic energy of particles in an object. Heat is a flow of energy from an object at a higher temperature to an object at a lower temperature.

Looks like either word works.

Nope. Heat has no temperature.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

Heat has no temperature. Heat is not a wind speed.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

Nah. You're just confusing heat and temperature.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
11-10-2024 07:00
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
Will God "flip" Florida for Harris?

Some believe that God consciously directs natural events as part of the great design.

Weather is not politics.
Im a BM wrote:
Is God aiming a monster storm to kneecap Republican voter turnout in Florida?

If the Georgia congress woman is correct, the storm is being deliberately targeted at central Florida by sinister human beings.

"They" control the weather.

Weather is not a Bond Villain scheme.
Im a BM wrote:
Whatever caused the record setting monster storm to form as it did and set its sights on the more Republican leaning parts of Florida, its impact may "flip" the crucial battleground state.

Finding the motivation to jump through hoops in order to vote may be difficult for those who have had to evacuate.

More Republicans than Democrats will be impacted.

More R's than D's will be trying to find their pets and clean up what is left of their homes, when they are finally allowed to return.

Weather is not politics.
Im a BM wrote:
As a scientist, I am confident that this is not the result of some nefarious "they" controlling the weather with human technology.

You are not a scientist. You deny theories of science.
Im a BM wrote:
My faith does not include a malicious God who would ever make the conscious choice to have a storm cause harm where it would not have otherwise.

Did you know that hurricanes show up in hurricane alley during hurricane season?
Im a BM wrote:
Climate change is real.

Climate cannot change. Climate is not a hurricane.
Im a BM wrote:
As a scientist, I know that the evidence is OVERWHELMING and irrefutable.

Science is not 'evidence'. Science has no proofs. Redefinition fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
Im a BM wrote:
2024 has been a very much in-your-face year for climate change.

Climate cannot change.
Im a BM wrote:
My heart aches for those in Florida who are about to suffer the consequences.

BS. You don't care about Florida or the people there.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
11-10-2024 11:41
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Hurricane season is usually about June to November in the Atlantic I hear.

Weather seems pretty chaotic. The general trends are usually easy to predict, but trying to predict which way the wind will blow, nobody seems to be able to do beyond about 3 to 10 days.

Weather is always chaotic. Big hairy deal.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm certain the indications of global warming since about 1800 are pretty accurate.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Your religion cannot change that.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
Spongy Iris wrote:
While the indications of global warming may seem minor,

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I come to this website to ring the alarm bell that global warming is cause for extinction event concern. But I do not know how long we can keep hitting the snooze button.

Ah...the usual Doom and Gloom predictions, part of most fundamentalist religions.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
11-10-2024 22:32
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

There are three forms of heat. They are conduction, convection and radiation. Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

No.


Wind transfers hot air.

How else do you explain the Indian summers in the Bay Area?


11-10-2024 22:33
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Hurricane season is usually about June to November in the Atlantic I hear.

Weather seems pretty chaotic. The general trends are usually easy to predict, but trying to predict which way the wind will blow, nobody seems to be able to do beyond about 3 to 10 days.

Weather is always chaotic. Big hairy deal.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm certain the indications of global warming since about 1800 are pretty accurate.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Your religion cannot change that.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
Spongy Iris wrote:
While the indications of global warming may seem minor,

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I come to this website to ring the alarm bell that global warming is cause for extinction event concern. But I do not know how long we can keep hitting the snooze button.

Ah...the usual Doom and Gloom predictions, part of most fundamentalist religions.


You ignore the indications at your own risk.


11-10-2024 22:34
Spongy IrisProfile picture★★★★☆
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!

Did you mean to say record temperature?


Heat and temperature are very closely related.

Heat has no temperature.
Spongy Iris wrote:
However, they are not the same. Temperature is a measurement of the average kinetic energy of particles in an object. Heat is a flow of energy from an object at a higher temperature to an object at a lower temperature.

Looks like either word works.

Nope. Heat has no temperature.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

Heat has no temperature. Heat is not a wind speed.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

Nah. You're just confusing heat and temperature.


Your reply to my comment was a waste of bandwidth.


12-10-2024 01:51
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Into the Night wrote:
...
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
[....


Well then I guess hurricane severity compiled over time and assessed is also a good indicator of global warming


12-10-2024 10:47
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

There are three forms of heat. They are conduction, convection and radiation. Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

No.


Wind transfers hot air.

Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
How else do you explain the Indian summers in the Bay Area?

Indians.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 12-10-2024 10:47
12-10-2024 10:48
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Hurricane season is usually about June to November in the Atlantic I hear.

Weather seems pretty chaotic. The general trends are usually easy to predict, but trying to predict which way the wind will blow, nobody seems to be able to do beyond about 3 to 10 days.

Weather is always chaotic. Big hairy deal.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm certain the indications of global warming since about 1800 are pretty accurate.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Your religion cannot change that.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
Spongy Iris wrote:
While the indications of global warming may seem minor,

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I come to this website to ring the alarm bell that global warming is cause for extinction event concern. But I do not know how long we can keep hitting the snooze button.

Ah...the usual Doom and Gloom predictions, part of most fundamentalist religions.


You ignore the indications at your own risk.

What 'indications'?? Pascal's Wager fallacy.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 12-10-2024 10:49
12-10-2024 10:50
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote: And in this heat, the kind of never ending hot summers, my compost bin just reeks.

Summers end. Your statement is completely disingenuous coming from California. In other places, summer ended long ago and your statement is dismissed as you being California-loony.


The record heat scores a point for Team Climate Change!

Did you mean to say record temperature?


Heat and temperature are very closely related.

Heat has no temperature.
Spongy Iris wrote:
However, they are not the same. Temperature is a measurement of the average kinetic energy of particles in an object. Heat is a flow of energy from an object at a higher temperature to an object at a lower temperature.

Looks like either word works.

Nope. Heat has no temperature.
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

Heat has no temperature. Heat is not a wind speed.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

Nah. You're just confusing heat and temperature.


Your reply to my comment was a waste of bandwidth.

No bandwidth. The internet is a class E system.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
12-10-2024 10:52
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
...
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
[....


Well then I guess hurricane severity compiled over time and assessed is also a good indicator of global warming

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Hurricanes are local storms, not the entire Earth.
Hurricane frequency and intensity is random, according to the National Hurricane Center.

Hurricanes are powered by unstable air, not CO2.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
Edited on 12-10-2024 10:53
12-10-2024 17:35
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
...
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
[....


Well then I guess hurricane severity compiled over time and assessed is also a good indicator of global warming

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Hurricanes are local storms, not the entire Earth.
Hurricane frequency and intensity is random, according to the National Hurricane Center.

Hurricanes are powered by unstable air, not CO2.


EVERYONE is an "expert"!

Except for the bona fide experts (PhD scientist types).

They aren't even really scientists.

It is not possible to measure ANYTHING.

Yet somehow he knows EVERYTHING.
12-10-2024 19:16
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
...
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
[....


Well then I guess hurricane severity compiled over time and assessed is also a good indicator of global warming

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Hurricanes are local storms, not the entire Earth.
Hurricane frequency and intensity is random, according to the National Hurricane Center.

Hurricanes are powered by unstable air, not CO2.


You implied Hurricane intensity has increased, presumably since the NOAA started observing the intensity and compiling historical figures.

I don't really know, as I'm not going to try to find all that data. I will just take your word for it.

If they observed increasing intensity over a long time span, that is not a random observation.


12-10-2024 19:18
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
Hurricane season is usually about June to November in the Atlantic I hear.

Weather seems pretty chaotic. The general trends are usually easy to predict, but trying to predict which way the wind will blow, nobody seems to be able to do beyond about 3 to 10 days.

Weather is always chaotic. Big hairy deal.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm certain the indications of global warming since about 1800 are pretty accurate.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Your religion cannot change that.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I'm not sure if Hurricane season has gotten more severe as the increase in global temperatures is barely noticeable.

The National Hurricane Center database disagrees with you.
Spongy Iris wrote:
While the indications of global warming may seem minor,

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Spongy Iris wrote:
I come to this website to ring the alarm bell that global warming is cause for extinction event concern. But I do not know how long we can keep hitting the snooze button.

Ah...the usual Doom and Gloom predictions, part of most fundamentalist religions.


You ignore the indications at your own risk.

What 'indications'?? Pascal's Wager fallacy.


The indications of global warming, genius.


12-10-2024 20:39
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Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

There are three forms of heat. They are conduction, convection and radiation. Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

No.


Wind transfers hot air.

Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
How else do you explain the Indian summers in the Bay Area?

Indians.


Though the term may not be politically correct, an Indian summer refers to abnormally high temperatures, occurring in late summer or early fall season. Typically, in the Bay Area, temperatures will reach about 100 F in September, and even early October this year.

The way I see it, these temperatures are reached when the wind is coming from the north, and is land based wind.

If the wind is coming from further west, and is sea based wind, the Bay Area will not heat up so intensely



Edited on 12-10-2024 20:40
12-10-2024 21:39
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
Spongy Iris wrote:
It's a record temperature, but also a record increase in temperature from the Santa Ana hot winds: Heat

There are three forms of heat. They are conduction, convection and radiation. Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
Are you filling in for IBDM and ITN to chastise posters for confusing heat and temperature?

No.


Wind transfers hot air.

Wind is not heat.
Spongy Iris wrote:
How else do you explain the Indian summers in the Bay Area?

Indians.


Though the term may not be politically correct,

What is politically incorrect about indians?
Spongy Iris wrote:
an Indian summer refers to abnormally high temperatures, occurring in late summer or early fall season.

If it happens every year, why is it 'abnormal'? What has this to do with indians?
Spongy Iris wrote:
Typically, in the Bay Area, temperatures will reach about 100 F in September, and even early October this year.

So?
Spongy Iris wrote:
The way I see it, these temperatures are reached when the wind is coming from the north, and is land based wind.

Santa Ana winds are from the east, not the north.
Spongy Iris wrote:
If the wind is coming from further west, and is sea based wind, the Bay Area will not heat up so intensely

Probably has something to do with air blowing over that cold current off your coast.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
12-10-2024 21:49
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Well I have to admit it, IBDaMann. Your prediction was only a tad early from hitting the forums.
Threads are breaking out all over about how Helen and Milton are caused by so-called 'climate change'.

From the 'news media' (propaganda sources) to the forums. Ah...the weekly 'news' cycle.

Most of these threads stemmed from discussions about how FEMA is nowhere to be found in disaster areas.
Edited on 12-10-2024 21:54
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