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29-05-2019 21:21
IBdaMann
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keepit wrote: Well, i've been looking at this website for a couple of days and i've learned some science from some impressive people. Thanks for that.

I bet you deliberately didn't learn a thing and it looks like you are going to confirm this ...

keepit wrote: I'm still a global warming believer though.

Of course you are. Religion always comes before science.

keepit wrote: Aside from that, i've endured more insults, false accusations, and vitriol than i've endured in my entire life. Totally uncalled for.

Marxists are haters and intellectual cowards who will only associate with those who stroke their egos and who share their WACKY views. If they see that not happening they instantly begin to play the victim and search high and low for sympathy.

Oh, please notice that you aren't getting sympathy for your ego not being stroked.

keepit wrote: I'm going elsewhere to learn my science.
Adios amigos

You have no intention of learning any science. You have made that plenty obvious.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
29-05-2019 21:43
IBdaMann
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keepit wrote:I meant to add that much of the infrared that hits the CO2 is turned into kinetic energy.


Nope. It does not become kinetic energy. It becomes thermal energy.

Read up on Planck's law.


keepit wrote: True, some of CO2's new energy does radiate but much of it becomes kinetic, hence the increase in temp of the earth and the oceans.

Thermal energy increases temperature, not kinetic energy.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-05-2019 03:28
James___
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IBdaMann wrote:

Question for you: Do you believe there was a past before February 21, 1848?






it's strange that people who like President Trump support you and ITN.
30-05-2019 04:37
HarveyH55
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A lot of people like Trump, that's why he was elected President, and why he'll get elected again in 2020. The democrats don't have a chance, people don't like all the time and money wasting in congress, all the pointless investigations, obstructing the presidents efforts. Trump's appeal, is in that he isn't just more of the same, as we've had for many of the past presidents. He doesn't try to please everyone, or promise to try. He has long term, lasting solutions to many of our problems, and a little cooperation would help speed recovery. His number one goal isn't to get everyone to like him, just the things he's trying to do for our country.

A lot of people criticized Trump for agreeing with Kim's assessment of Joe Biden, because he's considered an evil dictator. Lot of people agree that Joe Biden isn't quite up to speed. Don't think he's low IQ though, just the idiot part. Biden has been in politics long enough to know that groping is a career killer. He's a parent, and should know that strangers touching your kids, is never okay. But, the thing is, that past presidents haven't had much luck talking with North Korea, or made any progress getting Kim to stop launching missiles at any perceived insult. Trump talks to Kim, and there has been a huge reduction in recreational missile launches, less displays of military might. Trump still needs to establish more common ground, to get a deal through. The more things Trump and Kim can find in common, even small things, will bring them closer to a lasting solution. You have build trust and respect, takes time and effort. Sharing the Biden insult, was a brilliant move, made points with Kim, got some campaign points for re-election, Biden on the defensive, and mass media coverage, all with one simple statement.

The Russia investigation is over, wasn't anything blatantly prosecutable, possibly some small, petty points, if congress wishes to pursue, which aren't likely to be fruitful in the end. The democrats are acting like vultures, picking at the bones, hoping to find some little scrap left, but nothing substantial left, basically a waste of time and energy.

Some people might be a little concerned over the stock markets, and how the tariffs and trade deals keep shaking things up. Actually all that movement is great for the economy, lots of people make good money when the markets take a dip. When the stock markets stagnate, is when most people lose money.
30-05-2019 13:02
IBdaMann
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James___ wrote: it's strange that people who like President Trump support you and ITN.

I'm getting support? Financial? Political? How?

Wait a minute ... You didn't find out that I'm Donald Trump, did you?


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
30-05-2019 20:51
HarveyH55
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If CO2 has such potent special properties, how is it that nobody has found a way to exploit it? With all the Climatology hype, there would seem to be a huge, untapped potential. I've never ran across an article, where anyone has even tried. It's really odd to me, since the free energy/perpetual motion enthusiast usually are all over untapped potential The IPCC has been really harping on How CO2 is the root of all evil, the cause of all calamity, and catastrophe. It's only 0.04% of the atmosphere, 400 ppm. Seems like there should be some math, that you could apply, to estimate the total volume of the atmosphere. If its 400 ppm, and 0.04% of the total volume... Whole lot of zeros there, don't think my calculator has that many digits...
30-05-2019 21:22
IBdaMann
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HarveyH55 wrote: If CO2 has such potent special properties, how is it that nobody has found a way to exploit it?

The laws of thermodynamics guarantee that no one will "find a way" which I believe is your point.

What gets me is that warmizombies can insist that CO2 [violates the laws of thermodynamics] with all the certainty that it is settled science ... even to the point of treating others as being stupid for not accepting their WACKY claims as settled science.

HarveyH55 wrote: With all the Climatology hype, there would seem to be a huge, untapped potential. I've never ran across an article, where anyone has even tried.

Have you ever encountered someone who didn't really believe what s/he was espousing? [hint: it sounds like you have encountered quite a few]

HarveyH55 wrote: It's really odd to me, since the free energy/perpetual motion enthusiast usually are all over untapped potential

The moment I suggest cooking by simply spraying CO2 onto food, they typically shut up.

HarveyH55 wrote: The IPCC has been really harping on How CO2 is the root of all evil, the cause of all calamity, and catastrophe.

Kind of like "Satan" or "Loki" or some other bad-guy deity?

Have you noticed how the effects are always bad? If you ask a warmizombie whether CO2 results in an increase in precipitation or in a decrease, the answer will always be "it causes both because it depends" because they need for it to always be a punishment, e.g. droughts if it's California but floods if it's Asia, ergo it is always an arbitrary decision on the part of Climate.

If you ask a warmizombie why so much of the planet is experiencing a beautiful day, then the response will be that Climate Change has nothing to do with that, i.e. Climate never decides to make a beautiful day, it only punishes humanity for its carbon sins.

... and it's settled science.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
31-05-2019 04:15
HarveyH55
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One simple, easy to obtain molecule, is the focus of so much. There isn't really a huge amount in the atmosphere, yet it's the sole focus. If it were settle science, and CO2 could possibly do all that's claimed, then it should also have other equally useful applications. Like fire, which we currently have a few running wild in Florida, burns thousands of acres every year. We use fire for a lot things, used som last monday, for a BBQ during the holiday. Battling wildfires, sometimes they get lucky, and put the, but mostly they burn themselves out, or we get significant rain, that puts them out. Mostly, they hope to control the damage some, steer it away from populated areas, but even then it's not always possible.

A very potent molecule, like CO2, specially, since there is a market for ways to remove it, seem ripe for individuals to exploit those special properties. It's not so much that they could actually find a practical use or solution, just sell an idea or invention, to those willing to believe in it. The IPCC has done a fantastic job of selling the evils of CO2, it would be easy to take a free ride on all that marketing work they've done. CO2 capture system are a thing, but the plan is to just bury the CO2, which I'm not sure how they plan to keep it incarcerated. Aren't liberals always wanting to release dangerous criminals? Basically, just an idea, or scheme, would be some easy cash, with little consequence, if (when) it doesn't quite work out. The simple fact that there hasn't been any of these free energy scams, should be strong indication, that there isn't anything there to work with. CO2, just doesn't have those special properties, being sold by the climate guys. It's a scam, that even the professional scammers can't weasel in on.

Plants are the only thing that makes use of CO2, and they would do a whole lot better with more of it. Sure, we can use CO2 to put out fires, and beer, just would be beer, without CO2. Guess we are fortunate that the focus is on fossil fuels, and not beer production/consumption.
31-05-2019 07:01
Tai Hai Chen
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HarveyH55 wrote:
One simple, easy to obtain molecule, is the focus of so much. There isn't really a huge amount in the atmosphere, yet it's the sole focus. If it were settle science, and CO2 could possibly do all that's claimed, then it should also have other equally useful applications. Like fire, which we currently have a few running wild in Florida, burns thousands of acres every year. We use fire for a lot things, used som last monday, for a BBQ during the holiday. Battling wildfires, sometimes they get lucky, and put the, but mostly they burn themselves out, or we get significant rain, that puts them out. Mostly, they hope to control the damage some, steer it away from populated areas, but even then it's not always possible.

A very potent molecule, like CO2, specially, since there is a market for ways to remove it, seem ripe for individuals to exploit those special properties. It's not so much that they could actually find a practical use or solution, just sell an idea or invention, to those willing to believe in it. The IPCC has done a fantastic job of selling the evils of CO2, it would be easy to take a free ride on all that marketing work they've done. CO2 capture system are a thing, but the plan is to just bury the CO2, which I'm not sure how they plan to keep it incarcerated. Aren't liberals always wanting to release dangerous criminals? Basically, just an idea, or scheme, would be some easy cash, with little consequence, if (when) it doesn't quite work out. The simple fact that there hasn't been any of these free energy scams, should be strong indication, that there isn't anything there to work with. CO2, just doesn't have those special properties, being sold by the climate guys. It's a scam, that even the professional scammers can't weasel in on.

Plants are the only thing that makes use of CO2, and they would do a whole lot better with more of it. Sure, we can use CO2 to put out fires, and beer, just would be beer, without CO2. Guess we are fortunate that the focus is on fossil fuels, and not beer production/consumption.


Forests need forest fires to survive. Humans deliberately putting out forest fires hurt forests. No wonder nature hates humans.
31-05-2019 10:32
HarveyH55
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I agree that forest need to burn occasionally, to make room for new growth. The underbrush tends to die off every year, but doesn't get removed, until burned. Unfortunately, humans start some of those fires. Human don't often put out the fires, get lucky occasionally, if they get started fighting them early. These are usually started by humans. Most of the fire fighting, isn't about putting it out, but trying to protect populated areas, which would be that hard, if people kept their land cleared of dead brush, that fuels these fires.
31-05-2019 16:51
IBdaMann
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HarveyH55 wrote:Plants are the only thing that makes use of CO2, ...

Plants, brewers, soda manufacturers and paintball players make use of CO2.

HarveyH55 wrote: ... and they would do a whole lot better with more of it.

Hear! Hear!

HarveyH55 wrote: Sure, we can use CO2 to put out fires, and beer, just would be beer, without CO2. Guess we are fortunate that the focus is on fossil fuels, and not beer production/consumption.

Keep your eye on the ball. The focus is on the world economy. Marxists want to destroy it. Hydrocarbons happen to be the main support pillar under which the Marxist econo-terrorists intend to plant their bomb.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
31-05-2019 18:59
James___
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IBdaMann wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:Plants are the only thing that makes use of CO2, ...

Plants, brewers, soda manufacturers and paintball players make use of CO2.

HarveyH55 wrote: ... and they would do a whole lot better with more of it.

Hear! Hear!

HarveyH55 wrote: Sure, we can use CO2 to put out fires, and beer, just would be beer, without CO2. Guess we are fortunate that the focus is on fossil fuels, and not beer production/consumption.

Keep your eye on the ball. The focus is on the world economy. Marxists want to destroy it. Hydrocarbons happen to be the main support pillar under which the Marxist econo-terrorists intend to plant their bomb.



Here, here. I think it's funny the way you and ITN want to grow support for a Marxist based government while not calling it Marxism.
31-05-2019 19:26
HarveyH55
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I don't believe our country is going to change much, except clean up some of junk we've been collecting in congress. Likely to start pretty soon too. The socialist party has been flexing their muscle over to much nothing for a little too long. Best they can hope for out of all their investigating, are technicalities, a judgement call. Stuff that no one would usually bother pursuing, most certainly, not against an elected official. They punish Trump over petty things, they'll have to take the same medicine, for the same crimes, many of their own party are guilty. Sure free stuff is great, but most people aren't silly enough to believe it never gets paid for. When people start seeing the cost, they won't like all that free stuff as much, always a catch, nothing is really free.
31-05-2019 21:12
Into the Night
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HarveyH55 wrote:
I don't believe our country is going to change much, except clean up some of junk we've been collecting in congress. Likely to start pretty soon too. The socialist party has been flexing their muscle over to much nothing for a little too long. Best they can hope for out of all their investigating, are technicalities, a judgement call. Stuff that no one would usually bother pursuing, most certainly, not against an elected official. They punish Trump over petty things, they'll have to take the same medicine, for the same crimes, many of their own party are guilty. Sure free stuff is great, but most people aren't silly enough to believe it never gets paid for. When people start seeing the cost, they won't like all that free stuff as much, always a catch, nothing is really free.


Probably reasonably true. The very vocal minority in the House is only about 10% of the House. The other Democrats in the House are trying to distance themselves from them.


The Parrot Killer
31-05-2019 21:12
IBdaMann
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James___ wrote: Here, here. I think it's funny the way you and ITN want to grow support for a Marxist based government while not calling it Marxism.


Here, here. I think it's funny the way you keep posting without ever really saying anything.


This is why Marxists are limited to petty insults; they can't compete in any forum of ideas.


Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
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