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Dry ice31-10-2015 11:39
The Humidity
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When there is so much debate about CO2, it is because CO2 does not create the greenhouse effect. It is only solid substances like glass, which can capture radiation, and any gases.

The only type of glass in the atmosphere are the high-altitude ice clouds created by cosmic radiation. These clouds consist of dry ice and water ice.

My question is: Will more CO2 in the atmosphere together with cosmic rays produce more dry ice, which acts warming.
31-10-2015 17:19
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@The Humidity - most respected authorities today agree that CO2 does contribute to the GHG effect. However, if you factor in Global Warming Potential, CO2's overall importance comes into question. For better understanding, please read the following posts:

http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/is-co2-nothing-more-than-a-m2c2-companion-ghg-d24-e776.php#post_4022

http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/is-co2-nothing-more-than-a-m2c2-companion-ghg-d24-e776.php#post_4039

http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/is-co2-nothing-more-than-a-m2c2-companion-ghg-d24-e776.php#post_4045


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01-11-2015 00:41
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The Humidity wrote:
When there is so much debate about CO2, it is because CO2 does not create the greenhouse effect. It is only solid substances like glass, which can capture radiation, and any gases.

The only type of glass in the atmosphere are the high-altitude ice clouds created by cosmic radiation. These clouds consist of dry ice and water ice.

My question is: Will more CO2 in the atmosphere together with cosmic rays produce more dry ice, which acts warming.


Ice is actually crystal, not glass. Most of the clouds are water. The troposphere does occasionally get cold enough to freeze carbon dioxide.

All substances can capture radiation, regardless of whether they are gas, liquid, or solid.
01-11-2015 08:43
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The Humidity wrote:
When there is so much debate about CO2, it is because CO2 does not create the greenhouse effect. It is only solid substances like glass, which can capture radiation, and any gases.

The only type of glass in the atmosphere are the high-altitude ice clouds created by cosmic radiation. These clouds consist of dry ice and water ice.

My question is: Will more CO2 in the atmosphere together with cosmic rays produce more dry ice, which acts warming.

The 'greenhouse' effect doesn't actually work like a greenhouse. It was poorly named in the 19th century, but the name stuck.

Here, this chapter on the history of the science of the 'greenhouse' effect on the American Institute of Physics website might help you understand:

https://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm

from: The Discovery of Global Warming - Professor Spencer Weart
Harvard University Press

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674031890



Edited on 01-11-2015 08:44
01-11-2015 16:51
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@Ceist - the phrase "greenhouse effect" doesn't reflect the complex mechanics which underlie the process of AGW, but I think for an initial characterization which was made very early in the process when so little was known (at least compared to today) that the phrase has served well in helping many people, especially those who are not well versed in science, to get a basic grasp on the topic of AGW.

I'd almost analogize it to the children's song "The wheels on the bus go round and round!" True, they do, though that doesn't say much about how or why they go round and round. But for a beginner, it's a good place to start.


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