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Does Anyone Know Anything about Polyphenols?02-05-2024 19:23
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Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?
02-05-2024 20:31
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Lack of moisture in feces.

Cats generally don't like pine litter anyway. They prefer sand, burying their excretions.
02-05-2024 20:50
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Into the Night wrote: Lack of moisture in feces.

What is it about pine litter that makes it effective against cat urine odors? I get that the urine has more water, but what makes the pine litter work?

Into the Night wrote:Cats generally don't like pine litter anyway. They prefer sand, burying their excretions.

Sand doesn't control odors quite as well.

So overall you nonetheless recommend sand?


Oh, take a wild guess at who implied via PM that he wouldn't be participating in my thread. I won't tell you who, but I don't think he actually knows anything about polyphenols to contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way.
02-05-2024 21:14
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Into the Night wrote:
Lack of moisture in feces.

Cats generally don't like pine litter anyway. They prefer sand, burying their excretions.









I don't think that it is YOUR attention that is being sought so desperately.
02-05-2024 22:39
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IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Lack of moisture in feces.

What is it about pine litter that makes it effective against cat urine odors? I get that the urine has more water, but what makes the pine litter work?

Absorption. The urine also breaks down the pine litter into a sawdust consistency as it composts.
Into the Night wrote:Cats generally don't like pine litter anyway. They prefer sand, burying their excretions.

Sand doesn't control odors quite as well.[/quote]
Cats prefer sand. Dichotomous (clumping) litter is tolerated because it's mixed with sand. As the cat buries their excretions, the litter tends to get kicked out of the box. Pine litter is usually easier to clean up than the sand.

In all cases, the key controlling odor is to keep the litter box clear of urine and feces.

IBdaMann wrote:
So overall you nonetheless recommend sand?

Most cats live in sandy areas, and this is what the species has built an instinct to do; bury their excretions. It's useful when the whole world is your litter box, and it helps to limit detection of the cat's presence by their prey

Domestic cats, of course have to deal with the artificial conditions of a small litterbox.

Sand is easy to dig in and quite benign.

Pine litter works, and some cats do live in forests, but the breakdown of pine (or any other wood) to sawdust can cause allergic reactions to some people. Pine can be particularly problematic in this regard, due to the oils in the wood. Most cats have no problem with pine litter.

Dichotomous (clumping) litter has sand mixed in it to give the cat something they can easily dig in. Dichotomous earth, after all, is a clay and naturally hardens in the presence of moisture (even humidity). Even compacting it with a ram will create some pretty hard and relatively fireproof material. That's why you find it on model rocket engine nozzles.

Plain sand is what most cats like to use in the wild.

IBdaMann wrote:
Oh, take a wild guess at who implied via PM that he wouldn't be participating in my thread. I won't tell you who, but I don't think he actually knows anything about polyphenols to contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way.


It's not the polyphenols that make much difference here (other than triggering an allergy in some people and even some cats). The pine litter is made of compressed pellets to make it attractive for the cat. They simply become uncompressed in the presence of moisture, carrying the urine to the bottom of the box with it.

I let my cats out much of the time. They take care of most of their business out there, leaving much less of a mess in the litterbox. I bring them in at night to protect them from coyotes in the area. With this routine, they are most active during morning and evening hours, and don't keep people up at night with their activity. Like most cats, they generally snooze through most of the day.


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02-06-2024 23:38
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Thank goodness there is a thread about cat urine and feces odors!

Do we need an unambiguous definition of "cat", or do we just accept as a matter of faith that "cat" means "amphibian"?

Because CLIMATE CANNOT CHANGE.

As per Royal Decree, so **** your science!
03-06-2024 00:16
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Im a BM wrote: Thank goodness there is a thread about cat urine and feces odors!

... because if it were a thread about, say, polyphenols, you wouldn't have anything to contribute.

Im a BM wrote: Do we need an unambiguous definition of "cat", or do we just accept as a matter of faith that "cat" means "amphibian"?

We already have the abstract definition of "animal" to which we apply the specialization relationship.

Im a BM wrote: Because CLIMATE CANNOT CHANGE.

I think I'll quote you on that.
03-06-2024 00:42
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Science is not a cat.

Urine is not feces.

You are ignoring the laws of feline flatulence, dumbass.

Nobody is buying your WACKY cat religion.

You don't even know what feces is, you moron.
03-06-2024 00:59
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Another brainwashed Odorzombie.

Stupid, uneducated, and GULLIBLE enough to believe your own lying nose.

Got news for ya, pal.

That stink you smell isn't from the cat.
03-06-2024 06:29
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Im a BM wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Science is not a cat.

Guess you never heard of Schrodinger and his cat.


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03-06-2024 09:51
Im a BM
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



You came here to preach your WACKY cult's religion for the Church of Cat Urine and Feces.

Your Marxist crap won't fly here.

There is no such thing as "odors". It is a meaningless buzzword.

Why should any rational adult want to ELIMINATE a meaningless buzzword, allegedly associated with cat feces?

You are not God or king. You don't get to decide what should be "eliminated".
03-06-2024 23:34
Im a BM
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Science is not pine litter.

Urine is not an odor.

You obviously don't know shit about feces.

Only a scientifically illiterate moron would invoke "polyphenols" in a discussion about kitty poop stank.

Why are you so afraid of cats?
03-06-2024 23:49
Im a BM
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You are a liar.

You have never owned a cat.

You do NOT have a degree in cat science.

You obviously don't know anything about litter.

Making up stories about yourself won't help you.




Into the Night wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Into the Night wrote: Lack of moisture in feces.

What is it about pine litter that makes it effective against cat urine odors? I get that the urine has more water, but what makes the pine litter work?

Absorption. The urine also breaks down the pine litter into a sawdust consistency as it composts.
Into the Night wrote:Cats generally don't like pine litter anyway. They prefer sand, burying their excretions.

Sand doesn't control odors quite as well.

Cats prefer sand. Dichotomous (clumping) litter is tolerated because it's mixed with sand. As the cat buries their excretions, the litter tends to get kicked out of the box. Pine litter is usually easier to clean up than the sand.

In all cases, the key controlling odor is to keep the litter box clear of urine and feces.

IBdaMann wrote:
So overall you nonetheless recommend sand?

Most cats live in sandy areas, and this is what the species has built an instinct to do; bury their excretions. It's useful when the whole world is your litter box, and it helps to limit detection of the cat's presence by their prey

Domestic cats, of course have to deal with the artificial conditions of a small litterbox.

Sand is easy to dig in and quite benign.

Pine litter works, and some cats do live in forests, but the breakdown of pine (or any other wood) to sawdust can cause allergic reactions to some people. Pine can be particularly problematic in this regard, due to the oils in the wood. Most cats have no problem with pine litter.

Dichotomous (clumping) litter has sand mixed in it to give the cat something they can easily dig in. Dichotomous earth, after all, is a clay and naturally hardens in the presence of moisture (even humidity). Even compacting it with a ram will create some pretty hard and relatively fireproof material. That's why you find it on model rocket engine nozzles.

Plain sand is what most cats like to use in the wild.

IBdaMann wrote:
Oh, take a wild guess at who implied via PM that he wouldn't be participating in my thread. I won't tell you who, but I don't think he actually knows anything about polyphenols to contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way.


It's not the polyphenols that make much difference here (other than triggering an allergy in some people and even some cats). The pine litter is made of compressed pellets to make it attractive for the cat. They simply become uncompressed in the presence of moisture, carrying the urine to the bottom of the box with it.

I let my cats out much of the time. They take care of most of their business out there, leaving much less of a mess in the litterbox. I bring them in at night to protect them from coyotes in the area. With this routine, they are most active during morning and evening hours, and don't keep people up at night with their activity. Like most cats, they generally snooze through most of the day.[/quote]
04-06-2024 05:14
Im a BM
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Go and learn some science, you moron.

Science is not feces.

Pine litter is not a cat.

You run in fear and cower when confronted with the dishonesty and hypocrisy of your WACKY Marxist religion.

You're a horrid father, and you never give me anything I want.
04-06-2024 19:28
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Im a BM wrote:You're a horrid father, and you never give me anything I want.

Regarding this last little piece of projection, is there anything you'd like to get off your chest?
05-06-2024 02:14
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IBdaMann wrote:
Im a BM wrote:You're a horrid father, and you never give me anything I want.

Regarding this last little piece of projection, is there anything you'd like to get off your chest?



It is a quote from Veruca Salt, arguing with her father when she visited Willie Wonka's factory.

Branner's last visit here was at the end of February.

When he comes back, I'm sure he will put sealover on double secret probation.

We can't have a self doxing spammer troll fake scientist ruining everything!
05-06-2024 11:28
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Im a BM wrote:
You are a liar.

You are describing yourself.
Im a BM wrote:
You have never owned a cat.

You are describing yourself.
Im a BM wrote:
You do NOT have a degree in cat science.

No such thing.
Im a BM wrote:
You obviously don't know anything about litter.

You are describing yourself.
Im a BM wrote:
Making up stories about yourself won't help you.

You are describing yourself.


You cannot blame others for YOUR problems.


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05-06-2024 19:11
Im a BM
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IBdaMann wrote:
Im a BM wrote:You're a horrid father, and you never give me anything I want.

Regarding this last little piece of projection, is there anything you'd like to get off your chest?



Yeah, I was just trying to think of a line that a malignant narcissist would say.

Then I remembered Veruca Salt.

Long before psychologists coined the term, the fictional character Veruca provided an example for cultural reference of how a malignant narcissist behaves.

I'm surprised that it wasn't recognized.

You were too busy studying thermodynamics to see the Willie Wonka movie.
08-06-2024 23:50
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IBdaMann wrote:
Why is pine litter so effective at eliminating cat urine odors, but rather ineffective at eliminating cat feces odors?



Is there a reason to include "polyphenols" in the title of a thread about catshit stink?
09-06-2024 06:53
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sealover wrote: Is there a reason to include "polyphenols" in the title of a thread about [polyphenols]?

Yes. It's usually a nice touch.




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