Does ANYONE believe ITN is a "chemist"?
| 01-03-2026 23:44 | |
Swan ★★★★★(7803) |
Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote: Take your pills IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic?  Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy  Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 01-03-2026 23:45 | |
| Swan★★★★★ (7803) |
Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote: Take your pills IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 02-03-2026 12:37 | |
| Swan★★★★★ (7803) |
Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote: So did they teach you from my entrapment 101 handbook at Quantico? IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 02-03-2026 13:58 | |
| Swan★★★★★ (7803) |
Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote: It's ok, I know that you are special. Just like Corky IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 02-03-2026 22:00 | |
Spongy Iris ★★★★★(3321) |
Swan wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Swan wrote: My special agent code name is Fusilli Jerry. https://youtu.be/7ZPiWDOCEak?si=d5UweNqRfaITyX2J More LOLs https://youtu.be/ffWrsxI2P40?si=p8lVU0F-ybCJdtib %20(1).png) https://uccastandoff12424.blogspot.com/2024/01/this-blog-post-is-about-relationship.html Edited on 02-03-2026 22:04 |
| 02-03-2026 22:12 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (2852) |
Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: Thank you, Swan, for reminding me about additional -OH binding sites on both cannabinoids and tannins, enabling them to act as polydentate ligands. You are correct, tannins and cannabinoids have additional binding sites to act as polydentate ligands, in addition to that oh-so-special ortho phenol carboxylic adjacent pair on the benzene rings, with TWO adjacent binding sites that are especially strong formers of organometallic complexes. Cannabinoids and tannins also have other phenolic -OH groups that can act as binding sites. Tannins also have many ortho dihydric groups on benzene rings. These are two adjacent -OH groups that can also form strong organometallic complexes, bind to protein, etc. The plant's phenotype, the physical expression of the genotype, includes more than just the cells of the live plant. As per the genius Richard Dawkins, we understand organisms to have an "extended" phenotype. Such as the dams that beavers build. Or the dense litter layers that tannin-rich plants create. To my credit, tannins are understood to have adaptive value in natural selection and evolution through the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Someone else will eventually get credit when they prove that cannabinoids accomplish something remarkably similar, in the cannabis "extended" phenotype. |
| 02-03-2026 23:24 | |
| Swan★★★★★ (7803) |
Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Im a BM wrote:Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote:Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: And the most important thing that you can figure out to do with your life is to babble here. Take your pills shirley IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 02-03-2026 23:45 | |
| Im a BM★★★★★ (2852) |
Back to "original definitions"... Ask Google! Im a BM wrote: *************************************** Google does not define any word. False authority fallacy. There is no such thing as a 'terminal electron acceptor'. Buzzword fallacy. 'Alchemy' is the old word for 'chemistry'. The Arabic prefix 'al-' simply means 'the'. So 'alchemy' means 'the chemistry' and nothing else. Im a BM wrote: Alchemy is not a religion. It was theories of science, most of which have been falsified. Im a BM wrote: No, Robert. I don't continue to treat falsified theories as if they were part of science. YOU also ignore theories of science, including the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics. You think science is buzzwords. Indeed, you barely know English. You don't even know what 'climate' is. You seem to confuse 'climate' with 'weather'. You believe that magickal Holy Gases can somehow warm the Earth by their mere presence. That's a religion, Robert. I call it the Church of Global Warming. Indeed, it is a fundamentalist style religion. Fireworks isn't 'blowing shit up' (although there are some practitioners that delight in such devices). It is chemistry becoming art...the art of fire in the sky. You have no idea how to build any component safely. You can't even name the components or what they do. You couldn't even manufacture a good black powder. You have no idea of the chemicals used or why they are used. You have no idea even how to store such materials safely or to use it safely. You have no idea of the federal and state laws concerning such materials or even how to transport them safely. You can't even manufacture any of the commonly used fuses or explain why each type is used and where. You think you can bullshit your way through with numerous buzzwords. It only shows your own ignorance and illiteracy. ALL of fireworks is based on theories of science. It is also based on aesthetics and human emotion. It is where science meets art. It is where a few pounds of chemicals and some paper and string, come together to make lasting memories for families on a summer's night sky while they celebrate the birth of their nation. It is that special birthday party. It is that winter festival crowning finale. It is the New Year festivities. It is chemistry. Just as much as the chemistry that produces paper, creates useful plastics and pesticides and fertilizer and paints and dyes and adhesives and binders and even Post-it notes. And you have no appreciation for any of it. You are too wrapped up in your buzzwords and paranoia, trying to pretend that you are a chemist, trying to push your religion of global warming, and whining about forum statistics.[/quote] ******************************************** Meh. Don't you wish you could honestly say that you have made actual discoveries in the field of chemistry, published in the world's most prestigious journals, and cited in thousands of peer-reviewed scientific papers? I can honestly say such things, and more, because I really am a chemist. Maybe you've heard of the journal Nature? There is a great article by Terry Chapin, "New cog in the nitrogen cycle", published in 1995, in Nature, volume 377, page 199. The "new cog in the nitrogen cycle" that Chapin discusses in this review is about my own paper in that same issue of Nature. Myself, et. al, 1995. Polyphenol control of nitrogen release from pine litter. Nature, volume 377, pages 227-229. Into the Night, I only rub it in your face because you insist on falsely accusing me of NOT being a chemist. You can't cite any important chemistry discoveries you ever made because you never made any. Your real name searched on Google will not reveal any contribution of any kind to any field of science. You can redefine any term you want and stand by your unsupported contrarian assertions. But you can NEVER make vegetable oil, terpenes, lignin, or tannins become "carbohydrates" in the real field of chemistry.[/quote] ******************************************** The only journal that you are in, is the pot cookies recipe journal[/quote] ***************************************************** If I were still in the game, I would submit a brief communication to the Journal of Cannabinoid Research. It is a legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific research journal. I did decades of research into phenol carboxylic acids, but never paid attention to the cannabis connection. THC, the active ingredient, is NOT a phenol carboxylic acid, but it is derived from one. THCa, tetrahydrocannabinoic acid, must be "decarboxylated" to become THC. All those years I didn't know that to make "edibles" with maximum effect, the THCa must first be decarboxylated to THC. It doesn't take much heat to knock off that carboxylic acid group. It just needs to reach about 240 degrees F. That is accomplished in a joint just by the heat coming off the burning tip as it is sucked into the material yet to be burned. But a lot of the potential THC in "edibles" is lost if the THCa is not decarboxylated first. Baking weed cookies solves the problem with temperature well above 240 degrees F. What is cannabis accomplishing in the wild by putting the phenol carboxylic acid THCa in its foliage? The polyphenol connection may be an important one. Tetrahydrocannabinoic acid has adjacent phenolic and carboxylic groups in ortho position on the six member ring. This structure can form strong organometallic complexes with transition metals, and can bind to protein as tannins do. Cannabis may be using THCa the way pines use condensed tannins. In the wild it forms monospecific thickets that dominate disturbed sites for decades, perhaps by regulating carbon and nitrogen cycling to their advantage.[/quote] Cannabinoids versus tannins - What's the difference? Cannabinoids include the terpeno phenol carboxylic acid THCa, tetrahydrocannabinoic acid. It has a terpene attached to a benzene ring which has a phenolic group and a carboxylic group in ortho (adjacent) position. Tannins are phenol carboxylic acids. Unlike cannabinoids, tannins do not have terpene groups. Like THCa, tannins have benzene rings with a phenolic group and a carboxylic group in in ortho (adjacent) position. A benzene ring with adjacent binding sites, one being the phenolic -OH group and the other being the carboxylic -COOH group. This enables tannins to act as polydentate ligands to form strong complexes with proteins and transition metals. If I were still with a research institution I'd submit the idea that cannabinoids could have adaptive value comparable to tannins as part of the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Cannabis moves in on fertile soil sites that have been disturbed to form monospecific thickets that exclude other vegetation. They could be adding their cannabinoids to the soil in order to regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling to their advantage. I might still share this w[/quote] ******************************* All copied and pasted[/quote] ******************************* Swan, it is possible that you genuinely believe this was "All copied and pasted". That would mean there is some other place where these words were already published. It would mean that the hypothesis of cannabinoids behaving in a manner comparable to tannins in plant-litter-soil interactions has already been published somewhere, and I simply copied and pasted it. Swan, it is possible that someday you will realize who you were insulting. At which point it will be clear to you why your claim to having an IQ of 130 fails to impress me. At all. To your credit, at least you don't LIE about being some kind of "chemist".[/quote] ************************** Well there goes another failed FBI chemistry entrapment op. Enjoy fartface[/quote] ********************************* Thank you, Swan, for reminding me about additional -OH binding sites on both cannabinoids and tannins, enabling them to act as polydentate ligands. You are correct, tannins and cannabinoids have additional binding sites to act as polydentate ligands, in addition to that oh-so-special ortho phenol carboxylic adjacent pair on the benzene rings, with TWO adjacent binding sites that are especially strong formers of organometallic complexes. Cannabinoids and tannins also have other phenolic -OH groups that can act as binding sites. Tannins also have many ortho dihydric groups on benzene rings. These are two adjacent -OH groups that can also form strong organometallic complexes, bind to protein, etc. The plant's phenotype, the physical expression of the genotype, includes more than just the cells of the live plant. As per the genius Richard Dawkins, we understand organisms to have an "extended" phenotype. Such as the dams that beavers build. Or the dense litter layers that tannin-rich plants create. To my credit, tannins are understood to have adaptive value in natural selection and evolution through the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Someone else will eventually get credit when they prove that cannabinoids accomplish something remarkably similar, in the cannabis "extended" phenotype.[/quote] ************************************ And the most important thing that you can figure out to do with your life is to babble here. Take your pills shirley[/quote] ************************************** Your point is well taken. Yes, cannabanoids may be mobilizing iron in the soil, both by chelation of iron already in solution and by reduction of ferric iron(III) to the far more soluble form of ferrous iron(II). The kind of soils where wild cannabis can be most invasive tend to be on the higher pH side, and not acidic enough to make iron readily bioavailable. Similarly, they could be mobilizing manganese in the soil, potentially in a manner that is allelopathic to competing vegetation. I certainly saw the dicranopteris linearis ferns do this with tannins in the cloud forest. However, those soils formed on manganese-rich parent material. And the ferns kept their own roots out of harm's way in the above-ground litter layer, as they mobilized toxic levels of manganese to kill the pioneer trees whose roots were in the underlying topsoil. But the organometallic interaction capacity of tannins and cannabinoids is an important aspect of their influence in plant-litter-soil interactions. Any transition metal in solution can form two bonds with the adjacent phenolic and carboxylic groups, to be mobilized or arrested as it attaches to the organic ligand. If the complex is soluble, the metal can travel. If the organic ligand was part of the solid matrix of decomposing organic matter, the metal will be arrested and retained against leaching, held as an exchangeable cation. Furthermore, the phenolic group is a REDUCING agent. It can turn insoluble ferric iron(III) into soluble and bioavailable ferrous iron(II). I can turn insoluble Mn(IV) manganese into soluble and bioavailable Mn(II) manganese. |
| 03-03-2026 14:11 | |
| Swan★★★★★ (7803) |
Im a BM wrote: ******************************************** Meh. Don't you wish you could honestly say that you have made actual discoveries in the field of chemistry, published in the world's most prestigious journals, and cited in thousands of peer-reviewed scientific papers? I can honestly say such things, and more, because I really am a chemist. Maybe you've heard of the journal Nature? There is a great article by Terry Chapin, "New cog in the nitrogen cycle", published in 1995, in Nature, volume 377, page 199. The "new cog in the nitrogen cycle" that Chapin discusses in this review is about my own paper in that same issue of Nature. Myself, et. al, 1995. Polyphenol control of nitrogen release from pine litter. Nature, volume 377, pages 227-229. Into the Night, I only rub it in your face because you insist on falsely accusing me of NOT being a chemist. You can't cite any important chemistry discoveries you ever made because you never made any. Your real name searched on Google will not reveal any contribution of any kind to any field of science. You can redefine any term you want and stand by your unsupported contrarian assertions. But you can NEVER make vegetable oil, terpenes, lignin, or tannins become "carbohydrates" in the real field of chemistry.[/quote] ******************************************** The only journal that you are in, is the pot cookies recipe journal[/quote] ***************************************************** If I were still in the game, I would submit a brief communication to the Journal of Cannabinoid Research. It is a legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific research journal. I did decades of research into phenol carboxylic acids, but never paid attention to the cannabis connection. THC, the active ingredient, is NOT a phenol carboxylic acid, but it is derived from one. THCa, tetrahydrocannabinoic acid, must be "decarboxylated" to become THC. All those years I didn't know that to make "edibles" with maximum effect, the THCa must first be decarboxylated to THC. It doesn't take much heat to knock off that carboxylic acid group. It just needs to reach about 240 degrees F. That is accomplished in a joint just by the heat coming off the burning tip as it is sucked into the material yet to be burned. But a lot of the potential THC in "edibles" is lost if the THCa is not decarboxylated first. Baking weed cookies solves the problem with temperature well above 240 degrees F. What is cannabis accomplishing in the wild by putting the phenol carboxylic acid THCa in its foliage? The polyphenol connection may be an important one. Tetrahydrocannabinoic acid has adjacent phenolic and carboxylic groups in ortho position on the six member ring. This structure can form strong organometallic complexes with transition metals, and can bind to protein as tannins do. Cannabis may be using THCa the way pines use condensed tannins. In the wild it forms monospecific thickets that dominate disturbed sites for decades, perhaps by regulating carbon and nitrogen cycling to their advantage.[/quote] Cannabinoids versus tannins - What's the difference? Cannabinoids include the terpeno phenol carboxylic acid THCa, tetrahydrocannabinoic acid. It has a terpene attached to a benzene ring which has a phenolic group and a carboxylic group in ortho (adjacent) position. Tannins are phenol carboxylic acids. Unlike cannabinoids, tannins do not have terpene groups. Like THCa, tannins have benzene rings with a phenolic group and a carboxylic group in in ortho (adjacent) position. A benzene ring with adjacent binding sites, one being the phenolic -OH group and the other being the carboxylic -COOH group. This enables tannins to act as polydentate ligands to form strong complexes with proteins and transition metals. If I were still with a research institution I'd submit the idea that cannabinoids could have adaptive value comparable to tannins as part of the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Cannabis moves in on fertile soil sites that have been disturbed to form monospecific thickets that exclude other vegetation. They could be adding their cannabinoids to the soil in order to regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling to their advantage. I might still share this w[/quote] ******************************* All copied and pasted[/quote] ******************************* Swan, it is possible that you genuinely believe this was "All copied and pasted". That would mean there is some other place where these words were already published. It would mean that the hypothesis of cannabinoids behaving in a manner comparable to tannins in plant-litter-soil interactions has already been published somewhere, and I simply copied and pasted it. Swan, it is possible that someday you will realize who you were insulting. At which point it will be clear to you why your claim to having an IQ of 130 fails to impress me. At all. To your credit, at least you don't LIE about being some kind of "chemist".[/quote] ************************** Well there goes another failed FBI chemistry entrapment op. Enjoy fartface[/quote] ********************************* Thank you, Swan, for reminding me about additional -OH binding sites on both cannabinoids and tannins, enabling them to act as polydentate ligands. You are correct, tannins and cannabinoids have additional binding sites to act as polydentate ligands, in addition to that oh-so-special ortho phenol carboxylic adjacent pair on the benzene rings, with TWO adjacent binding sites that are especially strong formers of organometallic complexes. Cannabinoids and tannins also have other phenolic -OH groups that can act as binding sites. Tannins also have many ortho dihydric groups on benzene rings. These are two adjacent -OH groups that can also form strong organometallic complexes, bind to protein, etc. The plant's phenotype, the physical expression of the genotype, includes more than just the cells of the live plant. As per the genius Richard Dawkins, we understand organisms to have an "extended" phenotype. Such as the dams that beavers build. Or the dense litter layers that tannin-rich plants create. To my credit, tannins are understood to have adaptive value in natural selection and evolution through the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Someone else will eventually get credit when they prove that cannabinoids accomplish something remarkably similar, in the cannabis "extended" phenotype.[/quote] ************************************ And the most important thing that you can figure out to do with your life is to babble here. Take your pills shirley[/quote] ************************************** Your point is well taken. Yes, cannabanoids may be mobilizing iron in the soil, both by chelation of iron already in solution and by reduction of ferric iron(III) to the far more soluble form of ferrous iron(II). The kind of soils where wild cannabis can be most invasive tend to be on the higher pH side, and not acidic enough to make iron readily bioavailable. Similarly, they could be mobilizing manganese in the soil, potentially in a manner that is allelopathic to competing vegetation. I certainly saw the dicranopteris linearis ferns do this with tannins in the cloud forest. However, those soils formed on manganese-rich parent material. And the ferns kept their own roots out of harm's way in the above-ground litter layer, as they mobilized toxic levels of manganese to kill the pioneer trees whose roots were in the underlying topsoil. But the organometallic interaction capacity of tannins and cannabinoids is an important aspect of their influence in plant-litter-soil interactions. Any transition metal in solution can form two bonds with the adjacent phenolic and carboxylic groups, to be mobilized or arrested as it attaches to the organic ligand. If the complex is soluble, the metal can travel. If the organic ligand was part of the solid matrix of decomposing organic matter, the metal will be arrested and retained against leaching, held as an exchangeable cation. Furthermore, the phenolic group is a REDUCING agent. It can turn insoluble ferric iron(III) into soluble and bioavailable ferrous iron(II). I can turn insoluble Mn(IV) manganese into soluble and bioavailable Mn(II) manganese.[/quote] Spoken like a certified pot head IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
| 04-03-2026 01:47 | |
| Swan★★★★★ (7803) |
Swan wrote:Im a BM wrote: ******************************************** The only journal that you are in, is the pot cookies recipe journal[/quote] ***************************************************** If I were still in the game, I would submit a brief communication to the Journal of Cannabinoid Research. It is a legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific research journal. I did decades of research into phenol carboxylic acids, but never paid attention to the cannabis connection. THC, the active ingredient, is NOT a phenol carboxylic acid, but it is derived from one. THCa, tetrahydrocannabinoic acid, must be "decarboxylated" to become THC. All those years I didn't know that to make "edibles" with maximum effect, the THCa must first be decarboxylated to THC. It doesn't take much heat to knock off that carboxylic acid group. It just needs to reach about 240 degrees F. That is accomplished in a joint just by the heat coming off the burning tip as it is sucked into the material yet to be burned. But a lot of the potential THC in "edibles" is lost if the THCa is not decarboxylated first. Baking weed cookies solves the problem with temperature well above 240 degrees F. What is cannabis accomplishing in the wild by putting the phenol carboxylic acid THCa in its foliage? The polyphenol connection may be an important one. Tetrahydrocannabinoic acid has adjacent phenolic and carboxylic groups in ortho position on the six member ring. This structure can form strong organometallic complexes with transition metals, and can bind to protein as tannins do. Cannabis may be using THCa the way pines use condensed tannins. In the wild it forms monospecific thickets that dominate disturbed sites for decades, perhaps by regulating carbon and nitrogen cycling to their advantage.[/quote] Cannabinoids versus tannins - What's the difference? Cannabinoids include the terpeno phenol carboxylic acid THCa, tetrahydrocannabinoic acid. It has a terpene attached to a benzene ring which has a phenolic group and a carboxylic group in ortho (adjacent) position. Tannins are phenol carboxylic acids. Unlike cannabinoids, tannins do not have terpene groups. Like THCa, tannins have benzene rings with a phenolic group and a carboxylic group in in ortho (adjacent) position. A benzene ring with adjacent binding sites, one being the phenolic -OH group and the other being the carboxylic -COOH group. This enables tannins to act as polydentate ligands to form strong complexes with proteins and transition metals. If I were still with a research institution I'd submit the idea that cannabinoids could have adaptive value comparable to tannins as part of the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Cannabis moves in on fertile soil sites that have been disturbed to form monospecific thickets that exclude other vegetation. They could be adding their cannabinoids to the soil in order to regulate carbon and nitrogen cycling to their advantage. I might still share this w[/quote] ******************************* All copied and pasted[/quote] ******************************* Swan, it is possible that you genuinely believe this was "All copied and pasted". That would mean there is some other place where these words were already published. It would mean that the hypothesis of cannabinoids behaving in a manner comparable to tannins in plant-litter-soil interactions has already been published somewhere, and I simply copied and pasted it. Swan, it is possible that someday you will realize who you were insulting. At which point it will be clear to you why your claim to having an IQ of 130 fails to impress me. At all. To your credit, at least you don't LIE about being some kind of "chemist".[/quote] ************************** Well there goes another failed FBI chemistry entrapment op. Enjoy fartface[/quote] ********************************* Thank you, Swan, for reminding me about additional -OH binding sites on both cannabinoids and tannins, enabling them to act as polydentate ligands. You are correct, tannins and cannabinoids have additional binding sites to act as polydentate ligands, in addition to that oh-so-special ortho phenol carboxylic adjacent pair on the benzene rings, with TWO adjacent binding sites that are especially strong formers of organometallic complexes. Cannabinoids and tannins also have other phenolic -OH groups that can act as binding sites. Tannins also have many ortho dihydric groups on benzene rings. These are two adjacent -OH groups that can also form strong organometallic complexes, bind to protein, etc. The plant's phenotype, the physical expression of the genotype, includes more than just the cells of the live plant. As per the genius Richard Dawkins, we understand organisms to have an "extended" phenotype. Such as the dams that beavers build. Or the dense litter layers that tannin-rich plants create. To my credit, tannins are understood to have adaptive value in natural selection and evolution through the plant's "extended" phenotype in plant-litter-soil interactions. Someone else will eventually get credit when they prove that cannabinoids accomplish something remarkably similar, in the cannabis "extended" phenotype.[/quote] ************************************ And the most important thing that you can figure out to do with your life is to babble here. Take your pills shirley[/quote] ************************************** Your point is well taken. Yes, cannabanoids may be mobilizing iron in the soil, both by chelation of iron already in solution and by reduction of ferric iron(III) to the far more soluble form of ferrous iron(II). The kind of soils where wild cannabis can be most invasive tend to be on the higher pH side, and not acidic enough to make iron readily bioavailable. Similarly, they could be mobilizing manganese in the soil, potentially in a manner that is allelopathic to competing vegetation. I certainly saw the dicranopteris linearis ferns do this with tannins in the cloud forest. However, those soils formed on manganese-rich parent material. And the ferns kept their own roots out of harm's way in the above-ground litter layer, as they mobilized toxic levels of manganese to kill the pioneer trees whose roots were in the underlying topsoil. But the organometallic interaction capacity of tannins and cannabinoids is an important aspect of their influence in plant-litter-soil interactions. Any transition metal in solution can form two bonds with the adjacent phenolic and carboxylic groups, to be mobilized or arrested as it attaches to the organic ligand. If the complex is soluble, the metal can travel. If the organic ligand was part of the solid matrix of decomposing organic matter, the metal will be arrested and retained against leaching, held as an exchangeable cation. Furthermore, the phenolic group is a REDUCING agent. It can turn insoluble ferric iron(III) into soluble and bioavailable ferrous iron(II). I can turn insoluble Mn(IV) manganese into soluble and bioavailable Mn(II) manganese.[/quote] Spoken like a certified pot head[/quote] Julio is a chemist as well. You know he is the guy who makes your meth IBdaMann claims that Gold is a molecule, and that the last ice age never happened because I was not there to see it. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that IBdaMann is clearly not using enough LSD. According to CDC/Government info, people who were vaccinated are now DYING at a higher rate than non-vaccinated people, which exposes the covid vaccines as the poison that they are, this is now fully confirmed by the terrorist CDC This place is quieter than the FBI commenting on the chink bank account information on Hunter Xiden's laptop I LOVE TRUMP BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T STAND. ULTRA MAGA "Being unwanted, unloved, uncared for, forgotten by everybody, I think that is a much greater hunger, a much greater poverty than the person who has nothing to eat." MOTHER THERESA OF CALCUTTA So why is helping to hide the murder of an American president patriotic? Sonia makes me so proud to be a dumb white boy Now be honest, was I correct or was I correct? LOL |
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Im a BM wrote: Chemistry isn't a journal, magazine, or paper. Science has no voting bloc. It does not use consensus. Im a BM wrote: It is obvious you are chemist. Chemistry is not a journal or magazine. Im a BM wrote: You aren't. Chemistry is not buzzwords, or a magazine, or a journal, or a paper, or a college, or a university, or a book, website, government agency, degree, or license. Im a BM wrote: Chemistry is not a website. Chemistry is not a name search. Im a BM wrote: You are ignoring chemistry again. Im a BM wrote: Chemistry is not a journal or magazine. There is no voting bloc in chemistry. Im a BM wrote: YARP Im a BM wrote: Metal is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Metal is not organic. Im a BM wrote: Dawkins??? Now you quote religion as chemistry??? Im a BM wrote: Dawkins did not create the theory of Natural Selection. Darwin did, and it creates a paradox. It is not a theory of science. Im a BM wrote: Metals are not organic. Ligand is not a chemical. Furthermore, the phenolic group is a REDUCING agent. It can turn insoluble ferric iron(III) into soluble and bioavailable ferrous iron(II). I can turn insoluble Mn(IV) manganese into soluble and bioavailable Mn(II) manganese. [/quote] A group is not a reducing agent. Chemistry is not buzzwords, Robert. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 04-03-2026 23:48 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (23487) |
Im a BM wrote: Yes. It is copy and pasted. The words were already published here...by you. Stop spamming. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
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