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Day After Tomorrow defies physics15-02-2019 21:57
Tai Hai Chen
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They say warming water caused current to shut down, no more current delivering heat from south to north, causing another ice age. Law of conservation of energy. If current stops delivering heat, that means south gets hotter north gets colder. Hotter air from south would warm up colder north, so there would be no change in temperature. Do you think that movie violates physics law of conservation of energy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_IseK3xTc&feature=youtu.be
15-02-2019 23:33
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
They say warming water caused current to shut down, no more current delivering heat from south to north, causing another ice age.

Yeah. Right out of the movie. Obviously, the currents are still there. Sailors still sail by them. Aircraft pilots still fly by them.
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Law of conservation of energy. If current stops delivering heat, that means south gets hotter north gets colder.

That's right.
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Hotter air from south would warm up colder north,

Which causes currents in both air and water.
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
so there would be no change in temperature.

and there would be no change in the currents we see today either.
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Do you think that movie violates physics law of conservation of energy?

I watched this movie with some meteorologists sitting in the row in front of me. They thought it was one of the funniest crap that ever came out of Hollywood.

The tropopause typically hangs around -50 deg F. Jets routinely fly at this altitude. They don't have a problem. Kerosene and gasoline will gel at this temperature, but the interior and the fuel tanks of the aircraft is warmer than -50 deg F. No rapidly 'tornado' of descending cold air is possible. Cyclonic activity is warm air moving upward. Cold air descends to replace it. It is not cylonic. Thus, no rapid freezing of fuel lines is possible.

Cyclones themselves are suckers. It is not possible to have multiple tornadoes in a city such as Los Angeles (with news helicopters flying among them no less!). They will suck each other to create one tornado. Multiple tornadoes as depicted in the movie would never form.

A large wave hitting the Statue of Liberty would completely obliterate the statue. It's hollow, and will break up almost immediately into many small pieces. Same with buildings. Walls of water rushing through New York City would completely obliterate the buildings in the city.

As you correctly noted, you can't stop the currents in the oceans and the air. The Earth is unevenly heated. Currents are going to flow. Cold water sinks, and warm water rises, just like the air does. Dumping large amounts of cold water into a warm current will simply sink out of the current. The current itself is unaffected.

What's really hilarious is that the Church of Global Warming depicts this massive freezing of anything above the 43rd parallel as the result of 'global warming'! WTF???


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16-02-2019 19:32
Wake
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
They say warming water caused current to shut down, no more current delivering heat from south to north, causing another ice age. Law of conservation of energy. If current stops delivering heat, that means south gets hotter north gets colder. Hotter air from south would warm up colder north, so there would be no change in temperature. Do you think that movie violates physics law of conservation of energy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_IseK3xTc&feature=youtu.be


http://www.drroyspencer.com/research-articles/satellite-and-climate-model-evidence/

"Once their climate models can behave in the same way as the satellite observations suggest the real climate system behaves on a year to year basis, then we can revisit how much global warming those models predict for the future. Until that happens, I consider the IPCC climate model forecasts of strong global warming in the coming decades to be completely unreliable for basing policy decisions on."
16-02-2019 20:03
HarveyH55
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43rd parallel? I'm well south of it, and it still almost freezes, well gets kind of cold (sweatshirt/light jacket). Pretty sure winter is about over for us, highs in the 70s, more into the low 80s by afternoon. Still a little chilly in the morning though. Maybe when Trump finishes the southern wall, he can do something along the Canadian border. We don't need their cold wind, or slow drivers either...
16-02-2019 21:28
Wake
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HarveyH55 wrote:
43rd parallel? I'm well south of it, and it still almost freezes, well gets kind of cold (sweatshirt/light jacket). Pretty sure winter is about over for us, highs in the 70s, more into the low 80s by afternoon. Still a little chilly in the morning though. Maybe when Trump finishes the southern wall, he can do something along the Canadian border. We don't need their cold wind, or slow drivers either...


Oh, the humanity! Here on the 37th Parallel the high today will be 52 degrees. During the "Pineapple Express" where supposedly we were in a warm spell daytime highs were 56.
17-02-2019 02:03
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Wake wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
43rd parallel? I'm well south of it, and it still almost freezes, well gets kind of cold (sweatshirt/light jacket). Pretty sure winter is about over for us, highs in the 70s, more into the low 80s by afternoon. Still a little chilly in the morning though. Maybe when Trump finishes the southern wall, he can do something along the Canadian border. We don't need their cold wind, or slow drivers either...


Oh, the humanity! Here on the 37th Parallel the high today will be 52 degrees. During the "Pineapple Express" where supposedly we were in a warm spell daytime highs were 56.


Enjoying the rain we usually get?


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17-02-2019 05:33
HarveyH55
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Seems to be a lot of teacher strikes going on. Never seems to be enough education dollars spent, but what exactly have they been teaching these past couple of decades, that these kids grow up believing in hoaxes? Seems to me, that as science learns more, least some of that would get passed on to the younger generations. The democrats seem to think free education for everyone (even those south of our border) is such a needful thing. Likely less than half the students won't go on to college, or even need it. Not everybody can work from an office, nor does everyone have that goal or desire. With the internet and public libraries, it's not that hard to get your child up to speed, to get into a decent college. Instead of the newest iPhone, or a brand new car every year, there are more affordable, practical options, to save for junior's higher education, if a parent wants. Public (government funded) education, should be limited to the basic skills needed, the three R's. Most kids could get all they need in half a day. Reading would also be used for many other subjects, which is split into separate classes, depending on the assigned reading material. Make stuff they can use, current events, ethics, morals, values, responsibility, evils of socialist propaganda...

Mostly, I think our public education money is wasted, and worse. We torture these poor children (rich kids go to private school) with pointless details, propaganda, social non-issues, while promising that if they do really good in school, they get high paying jobs, where they don't have to do much of anything, unlike their blue collar parents, who are never home much at the same time, nor have the time or patience to deal with the kids. What a depressing, and harsh reality, when that college degree doesn't mean squat, and they grab any job they can, to house and feed their own family, hoping one day to find a job they studied so hard for. Too bad dad had to sell the family business, to pay for that degree, could have done a lot better, going to a trade school, and following in the family tradition...
18-02-2019 19:03
Wake
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Seems to be a lot of teacher strikes going on. Never seems to be enough education dollars spent, but what exactly have they been teaching these past couple of decades, that these kids grow up believing in hoaxes? Seems to me, that as science learns more, least some of that would get passed on to the younger generations. The democrats seem to think free education for everyone (even those south of our border) is such a needful thing. Likely less than half the students won't go on to college, or even need it. Not everybody can work from an office, nor does everyone have that goal or desire. With the internet and public libraries, it's not that hard to get your child up to speed, to get into a decent college. Instead of the newest iPhone, or a brand new car every year, there are more affordable, practical options, to save for junior's higher education, if a parent wants. Public (government funded) education, should be limited to the basic skills needed, the three R's. Most kids could get all they need in half a day. Reading would also be used for many other subjects, which is split into separate classes, depending on the assigned reading material. Make stuff they can use, current events, ethics, morals, values, responsibility, evils of socialist propaganda...

Mostly, I think our public education money is wasted, and worse. We torture these poor children (rich kids go to private school) with pointless details, propaganda, social non-issues, while promising that if they do really good in school, they get high paying jobs, where they don't have to do much of anything, unlike their blue collar parents, who are never home much at the same time, nor have the time or patience to deal with the kids. What a depressing, and harsh reality, when that college degree doesn't mean squat, and they grab any job they can, to house and feed their own family, hoping one day to find a job they studied so hard for. Too bad dad had to sell the family business, to pay for that degree, could have done a lot better, going to a trade school, and following in the family tradition...


The worst of the propagandizing from the leftists is trying to teach children that "everyone is equal" and that "boys and girls are the same".

IQ tests show that everyone is NOT equal. That only accounts for 20% of the possibilities that a person can become successful but nevertheless it is clear evidence that people are not equal and you cannot teach a person with an IQ of 100 higher mathematics nor quantum physics no matter how hard you try. Are you aware that the police departments give IQ tests because they do not want people with IQ's above 100 or so as patrol officers? Or that it is actually against the law for the military to enlist anyone with an IQ below 83? This does NOT mean that these people cannot be perfectly successful but that they have to find their own niche. Detectives have to learn the way to investigate and that each case is investigated in a similar manner. You don't want a detective to invent time wasting "new" methods. And contrary to many leftists opinions automation is taking jobs away from the repetitive labor that can give meaning and pride to the lower IQ people who can do these jobs better than higher IQ members of society. So why the push for more automation? It is likely that the automation itself in the end costs more than assemblers.

Just as important - men and women ARE NOT EQUAL. Woman TEND to be more people oriented and men more "thing" oriented. You cannot say that engineering is sexist because the overwhelming majority of engineers are men. What's more almost all of the highly achieving scientists or engineers are men and as we are now seeing - highly achieving middle end politicians are women. You cannot expect women to undergo the extreme strains of offices such as the President and be capable of making intelligent decisions. Not impossible since the intellectual and psychological differences are only some 10% or so, but out on the far ends of the norms for offices such as these, men compose probably 99% of those suited to such positions. There would never be a woman as capable of the office of President as either George Washington of Abraham Lincoln. The accomplishments of these men as leaders could only be expected once in 10 generations. Whereas just slightly below this you have people such as Jefferson and Eisenhower.

In actuality, anyone that can possibly afford it should be sending their own children to private schools with a focus on learning and they should also be working to fire any teachers that are attempting to propagandize children in schools which is something no less than child abuse. By the sixth grade in post WW II I have read most of the books in the local city library. My step-granchildren have a hard time reading in the 4th grade. They cannot multiply or divide. But they can tell you about global warming. That should be a crime.




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