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10-07-2020 22:17
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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This is the mask document...
Attached file:
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10-07-2020 22:47
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
This is the mask document...



Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about viral respiratory diseases


Physics clearly states that restricting the flow of anything diminishes it's output.
And that by diminishing the output of anything could have an exponential impact.
This is using the inverse square law that mathematicians and scientists both accept. It's how we can calculate the solar IR that the Sun is emitting. The same concept can be applied to a mask. Reduce the airflow from a person's respiratory system and it's effect becomes diminished as well.
Unfortunately that's not in the Bible. It seems that you merely searched the internet for an opinion that agrees with your sentiments and nothing more.

Edited on 10-07-2020 22:49
11-07-2020 01:18
HarveyH55
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Monday, they posted a memo at work, informing use there were three confirmed cases of Covid-19. This morning (friday), a new memo, and 6 more cases. 9 in one week is a new record for us. But this time, I got a name, for one of those 6, and works in my department too. So far, I haven't had much luck finding a person who actually tested positive, just people who were likely exposed, but tested negative. Have been hearing some interesting stories about the testing, and obtaining results. The test itself doesn't take long, but before you get that far, it's a long wait, and BS, some sanitizing. The results... They can't seem to text, email, or voice-mail them. Basically, they'll call you, if it's positive. If you need a negative, confirmation, to return to work, it can take 3 hours on hold, just to make that request. I got the impression that the heath dept. is very selective, of who they invite to come on down, to get tested too. It's pretty odd, a busy warehouse, and it's usually just 2-4 people, out of a potential 10-20 people, minimum. If I ever get drawn into the testing game, I'm giving up names of people I don't much care for at work, maybe a neighbor across the street, just for fun. It's anonymous, HIPPA privacy rights and all. It's really odd, for such a 'deadly' disease, spreading out of control, you'd figure the would give us more details, and encourage more people to get tested. You'd think that as business, they would want to keep infections as low as possible, and minimize interaction with the government. How many active cases, before we get shutdown? We are an essential service, maybe the need to haul off a few dead bodies first.
11-07-2020 07:37
Xadoman
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James, if you restrict your airways with mask then your immunity goes down and you can get an infection that otherwise could have been prevented by healthy immune system. That is why those masks are dangerous, they compromize immune system.
11-07-2020 07:46
James___
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Xadoman wrote:
James, if you restrict your airways with mask then your immunity goes down and you can get an infection that otherwise could have been prevented by healthy immune system. That is why those masks are dangerous, they compromize immune system.



You should ask gfm7175. I'd say watch some documentaries about climbing Mt. Everest but he might disagree and I'll agree with whatever he says.
And God Bless
11-07-2020 08:19
duncan61
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We had a covid death in Victoria.He was 90 for freaks sake
11-07-2020 08:29
Xadoman
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James, I have used masks in construction when I need to cut with an angle grinder or demolish something with a sledge hammer etc . The fine dust from those activities is awful for the lungs. But even with the mask I can feel that some of the dust comes through of the mask- some of the dust particles a simply too small. Also wearing the mask is uncomfortable, it makes you sweat, probably rises blood pressure a lot( risk of stroke) etc etc. Many years ago I was looking for a job and I had a trial day in the factory where wood frame houses where built. The job also consisted putting the fiberglass insulation between the studs. We were given masks but I saw that nobody wore them. I tried to use the mask but I have glasses so after some time my glasses fogged up so much that I did not see much. Also even with the mask I felt uncomfortable itching in my throat - some of the dust from the fiberglass reached to my airways anyway. It was my first and last day there, I never went back.
11-07-2020 09:06
James___
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Xadoman wrote:
James, I have used masks in construction when I need to cut with an angle grinder or demolish something with a sledge hammer etc . The fine dust from those activities is awful for the lungs. But even with the mask I can feel that some of the dust comes through of the mask- some of the dust particles a simply too small. Also wearing the mask is uncomfortable, it makes you sweat, probably rises blood pressure a lot( risk of stroke) etc etc. Many years ago I was looking for a job and I had a trial day in the factory where wood frame houses where built. The job also consisted putting the fiberglass insulation between the studs. We were given masks but I saw that nobody wore them. I tried to use the mask but I have glasses so after some time my glasses fogged up so much that I did not see much. Also even with the mask I felt uncomfortable itching in my throat - some of the dust from the fiberglass reached to my airways anyway. It was my first and last day there, I never went back.



I've worked at extremely dusty jobs and do wood working. It doesn't bother me to wear a mask when I'm around other people out in public. It doesn't keep me from doing anything I want to do.
And Hep filters are 95% effective. They trap stuff that is smaller than the coronavirus. At the same time, people in the operating room wear masks to reduce the amount of moisture coming from them which could infect the patient. I mean they work in a hospital and get exposed to all kinds of disease but usually stay healthy. I think hospitals show that safe practices work.
And from what I've been reading, I think some people are calling for the economy to be shut down again. The economy, I doubt it would survive another shutdown.

And this guy is a Republican. I guess safe practices do work but I'm not a Republican soo....
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/greg-abbott-shutdown-texas-mask-order/

p.s., when I worked at Boeing, I hand finished machined parts. I would've gone to school but no one around me thought I should. That job helped to get me a 10% disability rating from the VA for tinnitus. I had constant ear infections.
And now I'm learning math. It actually takes a few years to properly learn calculus. It's a better alternative than doing what hasn't worked in the past. Yet many people won't take the time and go through hell hoping to have a life.
And importing so much has made good jobs harder to come by. IMHO what's really hurting America.
Edited on 11-07-2020 09:41
11-07-2020 10:10
Xadoman
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At the same time, people in the operating room wear masks to reduce the amount of moisture coming from them which could infect the patient. I mean they work in a hospital and get exposed to all kinds of disease but usually stay healthy. I think hospitals show that safe practices work.


I had a chainsaw accident a couple of years ago and I needed some stiching on my left leg. The nurse who made the stiches prescribed a course of antibiotics but I did not take them because I had a feeling that antibiotics would be an " overkill" in this situation. The cut was not very deep and did not reached to the muscles. Overall considering my experience patients nowadays after some serious operation get an antibiotics course anyway so wearing a mask by the doctors is indeed clean and nice to see but compared to the antibiotics course they get afterwards its effectiveness is miniscule.
I also have wondered about the hospital staff and their ability to stay healthy in the middle of the sick patients. I think the effect of safe practices is miniscule here. A person who becomes a doctor must be pretty smart and tough individual. These kind of persons most likely have also pretty tough immune systems.
13-07-2020 17:08
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My cousin is fully willing to quit his job over this mask policy (he's very adamant about civil disobedience and that this is his "stand against tyranny")... good thing his company has decided to "risk it" and not force him to wear one. I bet that most of the "enforcement" of this policy is just being passed onto the employers to act as "de-facto police" anyway...

Meanwhile, at my job, they're afraid of the potential fines and etc, so they are adamant about enforcing the policy. I'm just going to push the boundaries as much as I can (such as wearing it below my nose at times for some fresh air).
15-07-2020 18:13
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For whatever it is worth (I'm willing to bet next to nothing), I have now contacted my Governor's office, as well as my County Executive's office and the Public Health Madison and Dane County's office, and have now politely expressed my grievances regarding this tyrannical mask mandate policy (Emergency Order #8).
16-07-2020 00:21
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
For whatever it is worth (I'm willing to bet next to nothing), I have now contacted my Governor's office, as well as my County Executive's office and the Public Health Madison and Dane County's office, and have now politely expressed my grievances regarding this tyrannical mask mandate policy (Emergency Order #8).



I would quote scripture to you since you are a Christian, but it would be like throwing pearls before swine. Then again, spoiled brat seems to fit. Aren't there more serious issues to be concerned about rather than how it bothers you to wear a mask?
Ever think about YOUR trade deficit which is usually around $800 Billion a year? That devalues a college education and labor in general. I mean if more things were Made in the USA, the rich might not be as rich and our GDP might be lower but the over all quality of life would be better. But Americans hate socialism, like putting Americans to work making products that Americans buy.
About all economic gains since the Great Recession of 2008 have gone mostly to the top 1/3 wage earners in the US. Everybody else's life is about the same as it was 12 years ago.
But as you mentioned, being asked to wear a mask gets your panties in a bunch.
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16-07-2020 00:26
James___
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Or....
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Edited on 16-07-2020 00:33
16-07-2020 00:31
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
For whatever it is worth (I'm willing to bet next to nothing), I have now contacted my Governor's office, as well as my County Executive's office and the Public Health Madison and Dane County's office, and have now politely expressed my grievances regarding this tyrannical mask mandate policy (Emergency Order #8).



I would quote scripture to you since you are a Christian, but it would be like throwing pearls before swine. Then again, spoiled brat seems to fit. Aren't there more serious issues to be concerned about rather than how it bothers you to wear a mask?
Ever think about YOUR trade deficit which is usually around $800 Billion a year? That devalues a college education and labor in general. I mean if more things were Made in the USA, the rich might not be as rich and our GDP might be lower but the over all quality of life would be better. But Americans hate socialism, like putting Americans to work making products that Americans buy.
About all economic gains since the Great Recession of 2008 have gone mostly to the top 1/3 wage earners in the US. Everybody else's life is about the same as it was 12 years ago.
But as you mentioned, being asked to wear a mask gets your panties in a bunch.


Masks suck, and are likely to be a health hazard eventually. Mask restrict airflow. I'm of a larger size, and active. No way I'm wearing a mask, while at work. Most people aren't going to put on a clean, sanitized masks every time. Some are going to wear the same mask for days, even weeks. Being a warm, moist, environment, should be a great place for mold and bacteria to live, and inhaled into the lungs. Vast majority of the population isn't mostly sitting on the toilet, waiting for something to happen, much of the day...
16-07-2020 00:38
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
For whatever it is worth (I'm willing to bet next to nothing), I have now contacted my Governor's office, as well as my County Executive's office and the Public Health Madison and Dane County's office, and have now politely expressed my grievances regarding this tyrannical mask mandate policy (Emergency Order #8).



I would quote scripture to you since you are a Christian, but it would be like throwing pearls before swine. Then again, spoiled brat seems to fit. Aren't there more serious issues to be concerned about rather than how it bothers you to wear a mask?
Ever think about YOUR trade deficit which is usually around $800 Billion a year? That devalues a college education and labor in general. I mean if more things were Made in the USA, the rich might not be as rich and our GDP might be lower but the over all quality of life would be better. But Americans hate socialism, like putting Americans to work making products that Americans buy.
About all economic gains since the Great Recession of 2008 have gone mostly to the top 1/3 wage earners in the US. Everybody else's life is about the same as it was 12 years ago.
But as you mentioned, being asked to wear a mask gets your panties in a bunch.


Masks suck, and are likely to be a health hazard eventually. Mask restrict airflow. I'm of a larger size, and active. No way I'm wearing a mask, while at work. Most people aren't going to put on a clean, sanitized masks every time. Some are going to wear the same mask for days, even weeks. Being a warm, moist, environment, should be a great place for mold and bacteria to live, and inhaled into the lungs. Vast majority of the population isn't mostly sitting on the toilet, waiting for something to happen, much of the day...



I'm of a larger size
Vast majority of the population isn't mostly sitting on the toilet, waiting for something to happen, much of the day...



Jesus, I ask in your name to assist Harvey55 with his healthy appetite as it seems to cause him distress. I pray that you guide him to drink more water, sit up straight at the table and also to eat his vegetables.
In Jesus name I pray, Amen.

p.s., don't you just love a good mix of veggies with kielbasa and Ramen noodles? About 5 or 6 - 3/16 inch slices work well for me. Lots of flavor. Yum!!!
pss, I know what I'm having for dinner tonight Harvey, Thanks for reminding me to eat healthy.

Still, try an all wheat tortilla, add some lettuce, chopped oninons, slightly shredded thinly sliced meat like ham or roast beef, (chicken and fish can be substituted and not sliced to be thin) with a little cheese and salad dressing on top. Then all you do is roll it into dinner. And then choose what sides you like. Potato salad or cole slaw? Baked beans or chips? Maybe even french fries.
Might help your attitude

And while we're on the subject, instead of a tortilla, 2 slices of bread can work just as well.
Edited on 16-07-2020 00:51
16-07-2020 02:27
James___
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This is for you Harvey. It's what I've started working on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIOu4BBwIps
Apparently to learn calculus, that needs to be known. And in a way it's a mathematical word game. Why you ask? That's an excellent question Harvey.
You see, solving the problem might be easier than simplifying it. It can take a lot of work to simplify problems while it could be considered that just going ahead and solving the problem is just as easy.
The first example they give is tan(theta) = sin(theta)/cos(theta).
All it's saying is that opposite/adjacent = opposite/hypotenuse divided by adjacent/hypotenuse.
Basically tan(theta) = y/1 divided by x/1. And to divide y/1 by x/1, we multiply y/1 by 1/x so we get y/x = tan(theta). I know you get what I'm on about.
And then they go to cos^4x - sin^4x/cos^2x = 1 - tan^2x.
If you watch from the 8:45 mark, they explain it. And this is the easy stuff.
I'll simplify it for you. cos^2x + sin^2x = 1. That is removed from the equation as it's factored. This leaves cos^2x - sin^2x/cos^2x = 1 - tan^2x.
cos^2x/cos^2x = 1. And when it's minus sin^2x/cos^2x, it equals tan(theta) or x.
Now it seems I have a choice that I can make. I can post with you or play word games with math. And if you watch the video, you'll see I translated it into the simplest terms possible.
And in a way it bothers me that I understand this. In the real world, problem solving will require something other than being a math wiz. It's more about having the fortitude to work at something even when you don't like it. As for me, this is far worse than wearing a mask. To understand something else in math that I want to know, it seems I have to learn something that I have no interest in.
After all, if things work out for me, many mathematicians will want to show me what they know. And if I didn't find learning math worthwhile, I'd be insulting them. If I want to work with others, I have no need to insult them and now do need to devote more time to math.

Edited on 16-07-2020 03:03
17-07-2020 16:34
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...
17-07-2020 16:53
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gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


In the United States, small children play a game called "cooties." When one kid has "cooties" all the other kids have to "spray" wherever the cootie-kid touched.

The left has decided to play the adult version ... and everybody has "cooties" and it cannot be cured. The objective of the game is to keep the "cooties" from "spreading." If you fail to do so then you are "out," you go directly to jail, you do not pass GO and you do not collect $200. The game only ends when Trump declares the game over. Some of us are eager for him to do so.

Of course no one actually dies in a game ... we just play "pretend." We use the words "Risk," "Threat," "Danger," and whatever words make the game FUN! It's a role-playing game after all.

Within the building where I work, one company just played the "launch a complaint to the landlord" card whereby they accused our company of not wearing masks in common areas. In turn, we held some additional meetings. We are more or less hard-core gamers in my neck of the woods.

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Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
17-07-2020 17:27
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


In the United States, small children play a game called "cooties." When one kid has "cooties" all the other kids have to "spray" wherever the cootie-kid touched.

The left has decided to play the adult version ... and everybody has "cooties" and it cannot be cured. The objective of the game is to keep the "cooties" from "spreading." If you fail to do so then you are "out," you go directly to jail, you do not pass GO and you do not collect $200. The game only ends when Trump declares the game over. Some of us are eager for him to do so.

Of course no one actually dies in a game ... we just play "pretend." We use the words "Risk," "Threat," "Danger," and whatever words make the game FUN! It's a role-playing game after all.

Haha, this gave me a good laugh. At least children know that "cooties" is just a game... The left currently thinks that it is a "global crisis".

IBdaMann wrote:
Within the building where I work, one company just played the "launch a complaint to the landlord" card whereby they accused our company of not wearing masks in common areas. In turn, we held some additional meetings. We are more or less hard-core gamers in my neck of the woods.

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Splendid... (not)... I actually work (as an Accounting Assistant, mostly handling the 'accounts receivable' end of the accounting world) for a landlord that owns quite a bit of both residential and commercial property, so I'm quite familiar with such complaints (much of them in my case just nonsense whining from "I am entitled to everything" college students) and all the BS that tenants try to pull in order to get their way. The big scam around here is people wanting pets in apartments that we don't allow pets in, so they then make up nonsense about needing an "emotional support animal" to get around our "no pets" policy.

The strangest thing I was ever involved in was having a commercial tenant give me the okay to sign her rent check for her (since she forgot to sign it). I, not about to commit forgery, sent her check back to her and had her sign it. There are numerous other stories that could be told about the nonsense that tenants say/do...
Edited on 17-07-2020 17:31
17-07-2020 18:02
HarveyH55
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gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.
17-07-2020 19:38
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HarveyH55 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.

Precisely. You seem to get it.
19-07-2020 16:56
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.



And yet as you say Harvey, under President Trump, your wages haven't increased and you can't afford high speed internet. And this would most likely be inflation even at 2% decreases the value of your paycheck.
I mean if you want to maintain your home, something has to go, right?
Let's say your income is $2,000 a month. A 3% wage increase would be $60 which is more than what a high speed internet connection costs.
And inversely proportional, if inflation is 2% then your monthly income when adjusted becomes $1,996. And after 4 years your wages would have an adjusted value of $1,984.
And yet someone is profiting from inflation and we know it's not you.
19-07-2020 17:57
James___
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A Covid 19 treatment update.
Could you imagine if this works and everyone had access to that cholesterol lowering drug that Covid 19 could be eradicated? This would require everyone being treated at the same time.

A cholesterol-lowering drug could make coronavirus as treatable as the common cold, scientists have suggested. Researchers at New York's Mount Sinai Medical Center looked at depriving the virus of nutrients which Covid-19 needs to survive. They found that fat which accumulates inside lung cells is a key component of what the virus needs to reproduce. Depriving the virus of these conditions could mean that the virus could be better controlled, with the researchers claiming it could be reduced to something akin to an ordinary cold.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/a231cd65-0f1c-31fb-bb2f-52a6ff32742f/cholesterol-lowering-drug.html
19-07-2020 21:58
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.



And yet as you say Harvey, under President Trump, your wages haven't increased and you can't afford high speed internet. And this would most likely be inflation even at 2% decreases the value of your paycheck.
I mean if you want to maintain your home, something has to go, right?
Let's say your income is $2,000 a month. A 3% wage increase would be $60 which is more than what a high speed internet connection costs.
And inversely proportional, if inflation is 2% then your monthly income when adjusted becomes $1,996. And after 4 years your wages would have an adjusted value of $1,984.
And yet someone is profiting from inflation and we know it's not you.


It's not that I can't afford high speed internet, a cellphone, or cable TV. I just don't have a daily, or even weekly use for those services. My annual raises at work, haven't changed a whole lot in the past 27 years, nor has the company match for our 401k. Some years are more generous than others, but there really has been a drop, to a bare minimal. I'm earning about 3X what I started at, and I no longer have a mortgage, credit card, or any other debt. I do work less hours, though that's my choice. They still give the option of finding something to do, to make 40 hours. I'm not as desperate for cash, and prefer working at home. When we are short staffed, I do get assigned other work, but generally, I'm free to go, when my usual work is complete.

Things were going great, until covid-19. Not sure where you get Trump messing up my finances. Of course, I'm a long way from a 'fix' income, so maybe it's just that you didn't get a big raise. Get use to it, Social Security is pretty slow on increases, not to generous either. Retirement isn't a job, or the government's responsibility. SS is to help out people who didn't plan well, or expect to live that long. Medical bills also tend to drain the savings pretty quick. SS is just suppose to be enough to get by on, no live fancy.
19-07-2020 22:10
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.



And yet as you say Harvey, under President Trump, your wages haven't increased and you can't afford high speed internet. And this would most likely be inflation even at 2% decreases the value of your paycheck.
I mean if you want to maintain your home, something has to go, right?
Let's say your income is $2,000 a month. A 3% wage increase would be $60 which is more than what a high speed internet connection costs.
And inversely proportional, if inflation is 2% then your monthly income when adjusted becomes $1,996. And after 4 years your wages would have an adjusted value of $1,984.
And yet someone is profiting from inflation and we know it's not you.


It's not that I can't afford high speed internet, a cellphone, or cable TV. I just don't have a daily, or even weekly use for those services. My annual raises at work, haven't changed a whole lot in the past 27 years, nor has the company match for our 401k. Some years are more generous than others, but there really has been a drop, to a bare minimal. I'm earning about 3X what I started at, and I no longer have a mortgage, credit card, or any other debt. I do work less hours, though that's my choice. They still give the option of finding something to do, to make 40 hours. I'm not as desperate for cash, and prefer working at home. When we are short staffed, I do get assigned other work, but generally, I'm free to go, when my usual work is complete.

Things were going great, until covid-19. Not sure where you get Trump messing up my finances. Of course, I'm a long way from a 'fix' income, so maybe it's just that you didn't get a big raise. Get use to it, Social Security is pretty slow on increases, not to generous either. Retirement isn't a job, or the government's responsibility. SS is to help out people who didn't plan well, or expect to live that long. Medical bills also tend to drain the savings pretty quick. SS is just suppose to be enough to get by on, no live fancy.



I think my VA disability keeps fine with inflation. You are right Harvey, I could've had your good life if I didn't serve. I acknowledge serving America is a mistake.
19-07-2020 23:53
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.



And yet as you say Harvey, under President Trump, your wages haven't increased and you can't afford high speed internet. And this would most likely be inflation even at 2% decreases the value of your paycheck.
I mean if you want to maintain your home, something has to go, right?
Let's say your income is $2,000 a month. A 3% wage increase would be $60 which is more than what a high speed internet connection costs.
And inversely proportional, if inflation is 2% then your monthly income when adjusted becomes $1,996. And after 4 years your wages would have an adjusted value of $1,984.
And yet someone is profiting from inflation and we know it's not you.


It's not that I can't afford high speed internet, a cellphone, or cable TV. I just don't have a daily, or even weekly use for those services. My annual raises at work, haven't changed a whole lot in the past 27 years, nor has the company match for our 401k. Some years are more generous than others, but there really has been a drop, to a bare minimal. I'm earning about 3X what I started at, and I no longer have a mortgage, credit card, or any other debt. I do work less hours, though that's my choice. They still give the option of finding something to do, to make 40 hours. I'm not as desperate for cash, and prefer working at home. When we are short staffed, I do get assigned other work, but generally, I'm free to go, when my usual work is complete.

Things were going great, until covid-19. Not sure where you get Trump messing up my finances. Of course, I'm a long way from a 'fix' income, so maybe it's just that you didn't get a big raise. Get use to it, Social Security is pretty slow on increases, not to generous either. Retirement isn't a job, or the government's responsibility. SS is to help out people who didn't plan well, or expect to live that long. Medical bills also tend to drain the savings pretty quick. SS is just suppose to be enough to get by on, no live fancy.



I think my VA disability keeps fine with inflation. You are right Harvey, I could've had your good life if I didn't serve. I acknowledge serving America is a mistake.


It's not a job, it's an adventure...

You didn't take advantage of all the benefits you were entitled to under the G.I. Bill. You could have chosen a field of the military, that would have translated better into a civilian job. Drunken sailer jobs are hard to come by in the private sector. It's not really something you proudly put on a resume, just sort of a perk of the job...
20-07-2020 02:15
James___
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(2987)
HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
My mom had a good question this morning:

She was wondering, if masks DO work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (she knows that they actually don't), then why aren't all businesses fully open right now? If masks are indeed working, then why is it "necessary" to impose covid-related operating restrictions on businesses (which are especially hurting small businesses)?

On the other hand, if masks DON'T work for stopping/preventing the spread of a virus (thus, the covid-related business restrictions are "necessary"), then why are we even wearing masks to begin with? Obviously, the masks aren't working...


In other words, she thinks that these twits are trying to have their cake and eat it too...


Democrats like to crush small business, since they isn't any money in it for them too take. Democrats are major shareholders in the big-box chains. Most of the small business that are being kept closed, are bars and restaurants, which would basically being giving away their product, since they don't have the space to comply, and still do enough business to pay the bills. People can't wear masks, while dining, or socialized drink (trying to get lucky), so they need to social distance. Bars, are for hooking up, not just drinking. Not sure how you could social distance in a bar, and be successful.



And yet as you say Harvey, under President Trump, your wages haven't increased and you can't afford high speed internet. And this would most likely be inflation even at 2% decreases the value of your paycheck.
I mean if you want to maintain your home, something has to go, right?
Let's say your income is $2,000 a month. A 3% wage increase would be $60 which is more than what a high speed internet connection costs.
And inversely proportional, if inflation is 2% then your monthly income when adjusted becomes $1,996. And after 4 years your wages would have an adjusted value of $1,984.
And yet someone is profiting from inflation and we know it's not you.


It's not that I can't afford high speed internet, a cellphone, or cable TV. I just don't have a daily, or even weekly use for those services. My annual raises at work, haven't changed a whole lot in the past 27 years, nor has the company match for our 401k. Some years are more generous than others, but there really has been a drop, to a bare minimal. I'm earning about 3X what I started at, and I no longer have a mortgage, credit card, or any other debt. I do work less hours, though that's my choice. They still give the option of finding something to do, to make 40 hours. I'm not as desperate for cash, and prefer working at home. When we are short staffed, I do get assigned other work, but generally, I'm free to go, when my usual work is complete.

Things were going great, until covid-19. Not sure where you get Trump messing up my finances. Of course, I'm a long way from a 'fix' income, so maybe it's just that you didn't get a big raise. Get use to it, Social Security is pretty slow on increases, not to generous either. Retirement isn't a job, or the government's responsibility. SS is to help out people who didn't plan well, or expect to live that long. Medical bills also tend to drain the savings pretty quick. SS is just suppose to be enough to get by on, no live fancy.



I think my VA disability keeps fine with inflation. You are right Harvey, I could've had your good life if I didn't serve. I acknowledge serving America is a mistake.


It's not a job, it's an adventure...

You didn't take advantage of all the benefits you were entitled to under the G.I. Bill. You could have chosen a field of the military, that would have translated better into a civilian job. Drunken sailer jobs are hard to come by in the private sector. It's not really something you proudly put on a resume, just sort of a perk of the job...



Nah, my service connected disabilities were held against me. Hearing aids unfortunately do not help all hearing loss. Mine wasn't caused by nerve damage which is what hearing aids are for.
The sad part though is that you're typical of an American. I have had good jobs but a hearing loss can be that bad. Here is an example for you.

Sue Thomas (born May 24, 1950) is an American woman who became the first deaf person to work as an undercover specialist doing lip-reading of suspects for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

In 2002, the TV series Sue Thomas: F.B. Eye, created jointly by Dave Alan Johnson and Gary R. Johnson, premiéred on the Pax TV first-run syndication network. Inspired by Thomas' unique job for the FBI, the weekly drama helped to bring more awareness to the lives and abilities of those with physical challenges.


And Harvey, she never really had a life despite being sober, having a college education (why the FBI hired her for another position) has never had a life.
And while being considered deaf, she could have a literal conversation with you because she heard well enough to talk. And if you heard her talk, you would think brain damage, retarded, etc.
And with Sue Thomas, the TV show based on her employment was because she was hired by the FBI to catalogue finger prints but someone found out that she was an expert lip reader (the series mentions this, have no other source of information for why she was hired but is as mentioned, she was the first expert lip reader employed by the FBI). This was before technology replaced her ability.
She's also a devout Christian. And with me, in any other country I would be liked because they would say that I am an American and I'd want to fit in in their country. Why I have interests that I am pursuing.
My disabilities and handicaps allow me to educate myself, that's called being autodidact;
au·to·di·dact
/ˌôdōˈdīdakt/
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noun
noun: autodidact; plural noun: autodidacts; noun: auto-didact; plural noun: auto-didacts

a self-taught person.
Edited on 20-07-2020 02:38
20-07-2020 04:28
HarveyH55
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Hearing aids are a lot more than simple amplifiers of the past. They can modulate sounds to fit into what ever range you still can hear. The can filter out background noises, all kinds of stuff. You need to see a specialist, to run the appropriate tests, and program and adjust your hearing aids, specific to your needs.

You don't know squat about deaf people. Most can learn to speak, dance, and many other things people who can hear do. For a language requirement in college, I took ASL. Mostly, because I got to registration late, and there weren't any useful languages available. Turned ot pretty cool, the teacher was hot, deaf since birth. Pretty easy class too.
20-07-2020 04:43
James___
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(2987)
HarveyH55 wrote:
Hearing aids are a lot more than simple amplifiers of the past. They can modulate sounds to fit into what ever range you still can hear. The can filter out background noises, all kinds of stuff. You need to see a specialist, to run the appropriate tests, and program and adjust your hearing aids, specific to your needs.

You don't know squat about deaf people. Most can learn to speak, dance, and many other things people who can hear do. For a language requirement in college, I took ASL. Mostly, because I got to registration late, and there weren't any useful languages available. Turned ot pretty cool, the teacher was hot, deaf since birth. Pretty easy class too.



Harvey, it's not really about if a person can do something, it's about if they are allowed to become a part of the community that they are in.
My father spoke Engleske as a 4th language. He never fit in. Yet while working at Boeing, he made models of the 747 for it's engine placement and was a lead machinist for the PHM-1 Pegasus https://photos.app.goo.gl/eXUEBz8EqYanZ8eN7.
Americans had friends, he didn't. And you're like me Harvey, a warehouse worker

Edited on 20-07-2020 04:46
20-07-2020 05:01
James___
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@Harvey, can you post something that isn't hateful? The Veteran's Administration hires deaf people to do jobs that do not require the ability to hear. This proves that earning a paycheck guarantees a person a life.
This policy hurts Veterans while saving taxpayers like you money. The question is, do we need a military? If we do, then why are Veterans like myself screwed over? Can't you let me keep my job?
Americans like you can't. Why I am an a$$hole. Don't hold my having served you against me. If you do, then I am the Devil and I want to get to know you.
20-07-2020 10:46
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
@Harvey, can you post something that isn't hateful? The Veteran's Administration hires deaf people to do jobs that do not require the ability to hear. This proves that earning a paycheck guarantees a person a life.
This policy hurts Veterans while saving taxpayers like you money. The question is, do we need a military? If we do, then why are Veterans like myself screwed over? Can't you let me keep my job?
Americans like you can't. Why I am an a$$hole. Don't hold my having served you against me. If you do, then I am the Devil and I want to get to know you.


You are the one screwing yourself over. Stop blaming other people for your own failings, and unrealistic expectations if everyone else. No one is obligated to be your friend. Take some responsibility for your own life, pull your own weight. It's not important for me to be everyone's friend, nor do I really want everyone to be my friend. I'm very selective about friends. There are plenty of people I associate/socialize with, but don't really consider them friends. My friends know I'm not a repair shop or handyman. I can usually fix things, cheap, but it's not always pretty, or going to last. They only ask when it's a real need, and don't pas my phone number around as a free service. I have plenty of other things to do, and a job, to spend all my free time working for others, just because I can. It's about respect. I don't call up a friend for help, unless it's really important. To me, a friend isn't just people you randomly hang a tag on, they are people you value. Friends are people you trust, respect, and can count on. Some people want to be your friend, simple to add to a list, they can use and exploit.

I don't have any handicaps, but have been seriously injured a few times, mostly broken bones. None have been able to keep me down for very long. I'm pretty good at finding a work around, until I'm healed. Just not much for sitting or laying around the house. There is always away around any limitation.
20-07-2020 11:40
Xadoman
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"Few friendships would survive if each one knew what his friend says of him behind his back"

― Blaise Pascal

I have only few friends from childhood and one of them turned out as a backstabber talking serious shitt behind my back. He also used me as his free workforce.
Edited on 20-07-2020 11:55
20-07-2020 16:24
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Xadoman wrote:
"Few friendships would survive if each one knew what his friend says of him behind his back"

― Blaise Pascal

I have only few friends from childhood and one of them turned out as a backstabber talking serious shitt behind my back. He also used me as his free workforce.


My childhood and highschool friendships could not be maintained because I moved away, moved around and ultimately settled down somewhere distant whereby social media was the only contact ... and things faded rather steadily over the years.

I lost a few friends due to politics this last Presidential election which ensnared everyone who was either prone to succumbing to pressure from virtue-signalers or to whom "victim" status was irresistably appealing. Suddenly, they considered me a racist/sexist/homophobic/misogynistic "alt-right" NAZI. The one thing they all had in common were that they were all pretty much losers anyway, so I'm not totally surprised, jussayn.

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Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

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20-07-2020 17:23
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
@Harvey, can you post something that isn't hateful? The Veteran's Administration hires deaf people to do jobs that do not require the ability to hear. This proves that earning a paycheck guarantees a person a life.
This policy hurts Veterans while saving taxpayers like you money. The question is, do we need a military? If we do, then why are Veterans like myself screwed over? Can't you let me keep my job?
Americans like you can't. Why I am an a$$hole. Don't hold my having served you against me. If you do, then I am the Devil and I want to get to know you.


You are the one screwing yourself over. Stop blaming other people for your own failings, and unrealistic expectations if everyone else. No one is obligated to be your friend. Take some responsibility for your own life, pull your own weight. It's not important for me to be everyone's friend, nor do I really want everyone to be my friend. I'm very selective about friends. There are plenty of people I associate/socialize with, but don't really consider them friends. My friends know I'm not a repair shop or handyman. I can usually fix things, cheap, but it's not always pretty, or going to last. They only ask when it's a real need, and don't pas my phone number around as a free service. I have plenty of other things to do, and a job, to spend all my free time working for others, just because I can. It's about respect. I don't call up a friend for help, unless it's really important. To me, a friend isn't just people you randomly hang a tag on, they are people you value. Friends are people you trust, respect, and can count on. Some people want to be your friend, simple to add to a list, they can use and exploit.

I don't have any handicaps, but have been seriously injured a few times, mostly broken bones. None have been able to keep me down for very long. I'm pretty good at finding a work around, until I'm healed. Just not much for sitting or laying around the house. There is always away around any limitation.



I have plenty of other things to do, and a job, to spend all my free time working for others, just because I can.


How do you find the time when you won't put the bottle down? And as I mentioned before Harvey, you're a typical American. I think it bothers you that I have projects that I'm pursuing/working on.
I think though that the toxicity of this forum has gotten stale.
Edited on 20-07-2020 17:35
20-07-2020 17:29
James___
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IBdaMann wrote:
Xadoman wrote:
"Few friendships would survive if each one knew what his friend says of him behind his back"

― Blaise Pascal

I have only few friends from childhood and one of them turned out as a backstabber talking serious shitt behind my back. He also used me as his free workforce.


My childhood and highschool friendships could not be maintained because I moved away, moved around and ultimately settled down somewhere distant whereby social media was the only contact ... and things faded rather steadily over the years.

I lost a few friends due to politics this last Presidential election which ensnared everyone who was either prone to succumbing to pressure from virtue-signalers or to whom "victim" status was irresistably appealing. Suddenly, they considered me a racist/sexist/homophobic/misogynistic "alt-right" NAZI. The one thing they all had in common were that they were all pretty much losers anyway, so I'm not totally surprised, jussayn.

.



I think what changed is the world population having exploded over the last 40 years. It went from 4.4 Billion to 7.8 Billion people. And then there's the internet and social media. I think that work is the new social center unless you work in a cubicle.
Just check out the bingo halls.

Edited on 20-07-2020 17:37
20-07-2020 18:47
James___
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Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjZOGaeoeo
It is what is taught in school as the correct way. And one thing it suggests is that there is a different way to calculate an ellipse than how it is calculated today. And the other way might also be an easier way to do it.

But do have my projects that I've been pursuing.
10-08-2020 05:02
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Just wanted to spread some good news regarding COVID-19 fear mongering and mask wearing...

Today, I went shopping at two different locations. The first location was a small cheese shop in a neighboring conservative county in Wisconsin. I walked into it without a mask on, and saw that most everyone inside also did not have a mask on (neither did the lady who works there). People simply did not care about King Evers' mask mandate there. They did their own thing.

The second location was a local grocery store (independently owned/operated) in the same conservative county in Wisconsin. More of a mixed situation there (some wearing masks, but others were not wearing them or had them on their chin... one employee at the checkout had a face shield on, but another employee didn't even have a mask on at all)... Another shopper who did not have a mask on approached me and started talking to me about how bullshit this mask wearing policy is, that he (like me) was shopping there to get away from the mask wearing BS, that this hysteria is "election year" game playing, that this COVID nonsense is fear mongering and lies, etc. etc... He, like me, loves our President, is very excited to vote for Trump this November, and wants to vote for him in person. We also spoke of a number of Trump's accomplishments, Biden's dementia, how awesome of a job Kayleigh McEnany has been doing with her pressers (and how good looking she is), all the Trump signs outside of Dane County, and other related political matters for another five minutes or so. Apparently he works right in the thicket of the same Dane County liberal shithole that I work in...

But yup... Biden is "up 6-8ish points in Wisconsin" according to the holy polls hahahahaha
10-08-2020 22:15
HarveyH55
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Is mask wearing, a little like being Water-boarded? The better the filtration properties of the mask, the greater it reduces airflow. Subconsciously, we are struggling to breath, which should provoke a response of panic and anxiety. Yet, consciously, we are telling ourselves that it's okay, to slowly suffocate. I'm a taller many, and pretty active, a very physical job. Walmart, has been the only place that won't bend even a little on their mask mandate, and I can definitely feel the difference in airflow, and effect. It's 30-40 minutes, but it's something I find that I need to control my breathing. I really can't see wearing a mask, doing my job, for more than a few minutes. Don't see how people wear those things all day...
11-08-2020 00:02
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Is mask wearing, a little like being Water-boarded? The better the filtration properties of the mask, the greater it reduces airflow. Subconsciously, we are struggling to breath, which should provoke a response of panic and anxiety. Yet, consciously, we are telling ourselves that it's okay, to slowly suffocate. I'm a taller many, and pretty active, a very physical job. Walmart, has been the only place that won't bend even a little on their mask mandate, and I can definitely feel the difference in airflow, and effect. It's 30-40 minutes, but it's something I find that I need to control my breathing. I really can't see wearing a mask, doing my job, for more than a few minutes. Don't see how people wear those things all day...

I don't see it either... It's definitely harder to breathe with the things on... I'm forced to wear one all day for my job (thankfully it is a desk job where I am sitting most of the time), but even with "cheating" I still need a break from it every now and then.

Outside of work, I absolutely refuse to wear one (beyond going into a pizza place for a few seconds because I'm in a hurry and wish to avoid any mask police hassle, although I'm mostly just going to go through the drive thru at Pizza Hut now as a way to avoid wearing the face diaper) ...

My dad, when running into mask police at gas stations, has held his cap over his mouth/nose and used that as a "mask".

I do have to admit that there's a part of me which wants to go out in public with a disposable mask tied around my wrist (think of a shackle) just to make the point about what's really going on here...
11-08-2020 02:56
keepit
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A recent study published in a cardiology magazine reported that there is a high frequency of cardiac involvement in patients post covid infection. This is said in a way that minimizes the danger. The article made it sound much worse than my description.
If you want to google it, look up "78% cardiac covid".
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