covid vaccine

Hospitals are closing because their staff is against mandated vaccination and they are leaving.

Xadoman wrote:

Hospitals are closing because their staff is against mandated vaccination and they are leaving.

It seems to me that around 80% of people are pro vaxx and they even support mandatory vaccination.

Xadoman wrote:
They are getting very angry at those who do not take the jab as if those people are responsible for current situation of restrictions and overfilled hospitals.

Xadoman wrote:
They want to get back to normal and the only way in their mind is to jab everyone.

Xadoman wrote:
The goverment has made sure that in police, health care and army the people are jabbed and the rest have been laid off work.

Xadoman wrote:
Most people will comply because they need the money to pay back loans and provide for they family.

Xadoman wrote:
People have been protesting like crazy against those mandates but the goverment does not care.

Xadoman wrote:
They keep turning the screw tighter and tighter. You even have to ask for permission to protest, otherwise they might quickly end your protest.

Xadoman wrote:
As much as I can see the peacful protesting does not work at all.

Xadoman wrote:
Here is an example what the police might do if you do not comply to mask mandate:
https://www.facebook.com/Sotst%C3%B5braste-suurkogu-207413250174491/

Xadoman wrote:It seems to me that around 80% of people are pro vaxx and they even support mandatory vaccination. They are getting very angry at those who do not take the jab as if those people are responsible for current situation of restrictions and overfilled hospitals. They want to get back to normal and the only way in their mind is to jab everyone.

HarveyH55 wrote:
... hopeful that I can remain vaccine free, without having to chose my income, over my right to remain vaccine-free.

HarveyH55 wrote:
The 'red-flag' should be that highly trained, well educated people, would choose to leave their career, rather than get this particular vaccine. Most health care, and first responders are required to get other vaccinations, which is no problem. Why is this one so different? Hospital staff should know first hand, if this is a major health crisis, what sort of people being wheeled out, with a toe-tag. Many of their co-workers took the jab, presumably survived. These are people that invested a lot of time and money, just to qualify for these jobs. It was something the had planned on, worked very hard to get there. True, some probably had a change of heart, once the reality set in, and found it was all they dreamed it would be. Most all have bills to pay, families to support.

It's true, some will find jobs, that don't require the jab, even in their chosen career path. Some may actually get their jobs back, as the demand increases. Just not something any of them can count on. Dreams don't pay the bills.

What is it that all these people know, that are government isn't telling the rest of us. Social media can't let them tell their side. It's mis-information, and censored.

As an essential worker, and haven't missed a day's work, since the crisis began. I'm still infection, and vaccine free. I don't mask, any more than absolutely required (30-40 minutes per week). Confident that I won't get infected, only hopeful that I can remain vaccine free, without having to chose my income, over my right to remain vaccine-free.

gfm7175 wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
... hopeful that I can remain vaccine free, without having to chose my income, over my right to remain vaccine-free.

What you have going for you at the moment is having BY FAR the best governor out of all the remaining States, having a Republican controlled legislature (although there's definitely a number of RINOs there who need to be sorted out), and (from the little that I know about it and can tell) a good attorney general and a good state supreme court system that upholds law and order.

Having to choose between a jab and a job is a position that sucks to be forced into (the people who are willing to do this to others are truly morally reprehensible individuals), and we are all in different situations which will affect the rationale behind making such a decision.

I've personally given it some thought over the months, and not out of fear, but out of vigilance and preparation for the direction that the tyrants who govern over the county in which my current employer is located in are headed towards. My employer doesn't personally wish to force COVID jabs on his employees, but he will obey and enforce whatever the city/county government dictates upon their citizenry, and they might one day make such a declaration (heck, the county is STILL forcing people to wear masks indoors).

So, at this point in time, since I am not tied down anywhere nor am I providing for anyone other than myself, I plan to give up my current job of over 9 years (and all the benefits associated with it) rather than handing over my medical freedom and autonomy to the local government, and then I'd likely be relocating my life to a location populated with much more sensible individuals, whether that still be somewhere in Wisconsin or even to a nearby State in the westward direction. I think that I'd be much happier even in a situation of only having a warm-body job earning $15/hr yet being FREE rather than earning much more for the price of handing over my bodily autonomy to a tyrannical government.

That's my thought atm if I were to ever be faced with such a decision.

Xadoman wrote:
I am sure most of you would agree that the whole covid virus pandemic is a scam.

Xadoman wrote:
They want us to believe that this virus is very dangerous but it kills only around 2 million people ( by their number, which is also a made up number) out of 8 billion per year. It means that only 1 person dies out of 4000 per year. I may suck at math but at that rate the virus would need 4000 years to kill off 8 billion people. Does not seem a real pandemic for me.

Xadoman wrote:
So the big pharma pushes hard the vaccine to end the scamdemic.

Xadoman wrote:
They want to protect us from the pandemic which is as we already know a scam.

Xadoman wrote:
So without reasoning it is already clear that the vaccine is also a scam.

Xadoman wrote:
It also turns out that many people are suffering horrible side effect from this scam. This kind of scam is not cool I must say.

Xadoman wrote:
Nowadays we have reached to a point where babies are being injected with multiple shots right after the birth. We have been lied so much that even a rational mind goes along with such stupidness to inject some kind of foreign matter into the body of a small baby.

gfm7175 wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
Several towns are locking down again. **** these mayors and town councils.
I only shop in free Washington. I will not conduct business in a locked down town.

Good call.

On Sunday, I did some shopping in free Wisconsin. Besides a couple of people putting themselves inside fear prisons of their own making, everyone else acted like free individuals. I also went to a tractor pull the day before that (again, in free Wisconsin) and nobody bothered with putting themselves inside of a fear prison. In locked down Wisconsin, most everyone has the damn tyranny towel back on... It seems that a fair number of people here realize the stupidity of it, but they keep doing it anyway. It's annoying.

keepit wrote:
xadoman,
Covid isn't a scam. I caught it and i almost died. Of course i'm 89 years old and only had 2 jabs. From the point of view of a patient (myself), the disease is nothing like the flu or a cold! I think i caught it from my neighbor and she later said she knew it was covid somehow. It's just that different.

keepit wrote:
I'm holding off on any vaccines at this point.
By the way, my neighbor is about 40 y/o i think and in good health as far a i know. She knew it was covid and didn't have the strength to even get in the car to go to the hospital. Her husband had to carry her to the car and then drive her to the hospital.
Also, the paxlivid meds that they gave me were totally noxious but it sure seemed that they got me feeling better right away. They gave the pax to my neighbor and she got better too.
Pax didn't stop me from getting long covid though.

keepit wrote:I made a misprint saying that i'm 89 y/o. I must have the 9 number instead of the 0 number.

keepit wrote:
xadoman,
Covid isn't a scam. I caught it and i almost died. Of course i'm 89 years old and only had 2 jabs. From the point of view of a patient (myself), the disease is nothing like the flu or a cold! I think i caught it from my neighbor and she later said she knew it was covid somehow. It's just that different.

HarveyH55 wrote:

keepit wrote:
xadoman,
Covid isn't a scam. I caught it and i almost died. Of course i'm 89 years old and only had 2 jabs. From the point of view of a patient (myself), the disease is nothing like the flu or a cold! I think i caught it from my neighbor and she later said she knew it was covid somehow. It's just that different.

From the co-workers I've talked to, who had it, it was just like any other cold. But, it's a warehouse, don't think we have many retirement age, or older. Even in the office area. It's physical work out in the warehouse, not many with health issues either. Severe symptoms seem limited to a high-risk group. Everybody else, it's just a cold.

Have you gotten the new, improved booster yet? Suppose to give protection for all variants, past, and future. Better hurry though, rumor that the China outbreak, is a new variant, and vaccine resistant, even the new booster...

keepit wrote:
ibd,
I didn't get my age wrong knucklehead. It was a typo.

keepit wrote:
itn,
Your medical logic escapes me. It sounds like speculation without any evidence.

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

mRNA is not a vaccine. Google is not God.

I can't save you from your religion (much as I'd like to). You choosing your own misery is your problem. You choose to live in fear. You are free to make that choice, but you are not free of the consequences of it.

I can warn others, though, of the consequences of joining your religion.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

mRNA is not a vaccine. Google is not God.

I can't save you from your religion (much as I'd like to). You choosing your own misery is your problem. You choose to live in fear. You are free to make that choice, but you are not free of the consequences of it.

I can warn others, though, of the consequences of joining your religion.

Try saving yourself from the dead end life that you have here, tardy

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

mRNA is not a vaccine. Google is not God.

I can't save you from your religion (much as I'd like to). You choosing your own misery is your problem. You choose to live in fear. You are free to make that choice, but you are not free of the consequences of it.

I can warn others, though, of the consequences of joining your religion.

Try saving yourself from the dead end life that you have here, tardy

Talking to yourself now?

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

keepit wrote:
xadoman,
Covid isn't a scam.

keepit wrote:
I caught it and i almost died.

keepit wrote:
Of course i'm 89 years old and only had 2 jabs.

keepit wrote:
From the point of view of a patient (myself), the disease is nothing like the flu or a cold!

keepit wrote:
I think i caught it from my neighbor and she later said she knew it was covid somehow. It's just that different.

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

mRNA is not a vaccine. Google is not God.

I can't save you from your religion (much as I'd like to). You choosing your own misery is your problem. You choose to live in fear. You are free to make that choice, but you are not free of the consequences of it.

I can warn others, though, of the consequences of joining your religion.

Try saving yourself from the dead end life that you have here, tardy

Talking to yourself now?

I was speaking directly to you tardy, or do you consider yourself nothing?

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Swan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

keepit wrote:
itn,
Too many mistakes in that post to bother with.

By the way, it is mrna technology as a whole that contains some treatments but not mrna vaccines. Check with google if you don't believe me.

mRNA is not a vaccine. Google is not God.

I can't save you from your religion (much as I'd like to). You choosing your own misery is your problem. You choose to live in fear. You are free to make that choice, but you are not free of the consequences of it.

I can warn others, though, of the consequences of joining your religion.

Try saving yourself from the dead end life that you have here, tardy

Talking to yourself now?

I was speaking directly to you tardy, or do you consider yourself nothing?

Still talking to yourself?

keepit wrote:gfm, Covid was and is a little different for me in that my only symptom for me was and is collapse and fatigue.

keepit wrote: I'm lazy so i guess you could say that the weakness i had than was exacerbated by covid was the laziness.

keepit wrote: It could be a lot worse.\

keepit wrote:It feels as much different than a cold or the flu as the difference between apples and oranges.

keepit wrote:
gfm,\
I've had the flu a few times and a cold many times. This covid was nothing like those. My neighbor felt the same. Plus it is a different virus although some colds (but not the flu) are corona viruses but not the same corona virus as some of the colds are.
In the medical field they use the phrase "flu like symptoms" to describe some illnesses. This was nothing like the cold or the flu though. Why would i lie? I have no agenda or affiliation with anybody's politics.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Humans weren't designed to sit on their ass, lay around all day. The more lazier you get, the harder it becomes to do even simple tasks. When you get seriously sick, or injured, it's tough getting back on your feet, and back to normal. When young, you have little choice. You have responsibilities and obligations. Pity-parties are not an option. The key to longevity, is activity, both physically, and mentally. Medications are a poor replacement, but can get you by for a while, if doctors are your thing.