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context24-05-2024 22:25
keepit
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Very many words in the english language have multiple meanings. Context is one of the factors that determine what meaning is intended. Whether the word (or phrase) is intended in a dynamic or a static way is also a factor in determining the intent of the word. Also, whether or not the word is intended to be used in a literal or a figurative way is another factor in understanding the word or phrase.
These and other factors are considered to understand the intent of the speaker. It's all pretty confusing. I think we understand meaning at a partially subconscious level depending on how we've been programmed. And we've all been programmed in various ways, believe it or not.
24-05-2024 22:49
keepit
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someone is trying real hard to distract from this thread.
Edited on 24-05-2024 22:52
24-05-2024 23:44
Im a BM
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keepit wrote:
someone is trying real hard to distract from this thread.


Someone tries real hard to distract from almost EVERY thread.

At least the threads that relate in any way to "climate debate".

If it is any consolation, keepit, you are not alone in noticing this.

Context:

Should we order SEA FOOD?

Why?

Is the SEA HUNGRY?

Because the unambiguous definition of SEA FOOD is FOOD FOR THE SEA, right?

Fossil fuel is fuel for fossils.

But, regardless of CONTEXT, isn't it weird when someone claims that a word has no meaning, even though virtually everyone else uses the word and they all seem to think they understand each other?

If I woke up and discovered myself to have been transported to Mongolia, I would hear people using words that I have never heard before and do not understand.

Is it reasonable for me to conclude that NOBODY in Mongolia understands them either, and they are all just babbling buzzwords back and forth to each other?

Scientific literacy is kind of like learning Mongolian.

Refusing to believe that the words of the language are even real puts the student at a significant disadvantage.

Expecting to be able to jump from the introductory lecture of Mongolian 1a and go to a Mongolian Literature class is not too realistic.

Telling the Mongolian Literature professor that they must stop the lecture because the ill-prepared student needs to be convinced that there is really a legitimate definition for every term that is "new"

Some might wonder if the student is only interested in distracting from the intended discussion.
25-05-2024 00:19
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Very many words in the english language have multiple meanings. Context is one of the factors that determine what meaning is intended. Whether the word (or phrase) is intended in a dynamic or a static way is also a factor in determining the intent of the word. Also, whether or not the word is intended to be used in a literal or a figurative way is another factor in understanding the word or phrase.
These and other factors are considered to understand the intent of the speaker. It's all pretty confusing. I think we understand meaning at a partially subconscious level depending on how we've been programmed. And we've all been programmed in various ways, believe it or not.

Nullifying a language won't work, keepit.


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25-05-2024 00:20
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote:
keepit wrote:
someone is trying real hard to distract from this thread.


Someone tries real hard to distract from almost EVERY thread.

At least the threads that relate in any way to "climate debate".

If it is any consolation, keepit, you are not alone in noticing this.

Context:

Should we order SEA FOOD?

Why?

Is the SEA HUNGRY?

Because the unambiguous definition of SEA FOOD is FOOD FOR THE SEA, right?

Fossil fuel is fuel for fossils.

But, regardless of CONTEXT, isn't it weird when someone claims that a word has no meaning, even though virtually everyone else uses the word and they all seem to think they understand each other?

If I woke up and discovered myself to have been transported to Mongolia, I would hear people using words that I have never heard before and do not understand.

Is it reasonable for me to conclude that NOBODY in Mongolia understands them either, and they are all just babbling buzzwords back and forth to each other?

Scientific literacy is kind of like learning Mongolian.

Refusing to believe that the words of the language are even real puts the student at a significant disadvantage.

Expecting to be able to jump from the introductory lecture of Mongolian 1a and go to a Mongolian Literature class is not too realistic.

Telling the Mongolian Literature professor that they must stop the lecture because the ill-prepared student needs to be convinced that there is really a legitimate definition for every term that is "new"

Some might wonder if the student is only interested in distracting from the intended discussion.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan
25-05-2024 01:08
keepit
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itn,
i don't have clue about you mean by "nullifying a language'.
25-05-2024 01:31
Im a BM
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keepit wrote:
itn,
i don't have clue about you mean by "nullifying a language'.




Perhaps it is similar to the way that thermodynamics does not "cancel" gravity.

Nullification has a lot of overlap with cancellation.

Perhaps a language can or cannot be nullified in a manner similar to how gravity can or cannot be canceled.


But my mind was just blown.

I saw a ad a minute ago, right here on this website, for a restaurant that I have been to at least a hundred times.

I know the owner.

Maybe I can get him or someone else at the restaurant to tell me how their ad got on this website.

My wild ass guess is that it is in part because this website is frequently displaying that there are 50-200 "Guests online".

How much did Branner get paid to display the ad of my local restaurant?

My wild ass guess is that the restaurant paid someone other than Branner to display it on more websites than just this one.

I wonder if that advertising sub contractor knows how dead this website is.

This gives me an excuse to go order fish tacos and see who there knows how the restaurant contracts out its advertising.
25-05-2024 08:00
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keepit wrote: itn, i don't have clue about you mean by "nullifying a language'.

When was the last time you had a clue?
25-05-2024 08:15
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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Im a BM wrote: I saw a ad a minute ago, right here on this website, for a restaurant that I have been to at least a hundred times.

Robert, does that surprise you? Let me explain to you how it works.

When you login to Climate-Debate, your IP address is provided along with the information of your internet provider, i.e. information that tells the hosting site where you are. This enables relevant ads for your area to be directed to you.

In other words, you get ads for your area while I get different ads for my area.

Im a BM wrote: My wild ass guess is that it is in part because this website is frequently displaying that there are 50-200 "Guests online".

Nope.

Im a BM wrote: How much did Branner get paid to display the ad of my local restaurant?

I don't think he did. It's an automated process.

Im a BM wrote: This gives me an excuse to go order fish tacos and see who there knows how the restaurant contracts out its advertising.

The advertising was a success because it reached you. This process puts that restaurant's ad in front of everybody in your area, regardless of which websites they are visiting.
25-05-2024 20:39
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:
Im a BM wrote: I saw a ad a minute ago, right here on this website, for a restaurant that I have been to at least a hundred times.

Robert, does that surprise you? Let me explain to you how it works.

When you login to Climate-Debate, your IP address is provided along with the information of your internet provider, i.e. information that tells the hosting site where you are. This enables relevant ads for your area to be directed to you.

In other words, you get ads for your area while I get different ads for my area.

Im a BM wrote: My wild ass guess is that it is in part because this website is frequently displaying that there are 50-200 "Guests online".

Nope.

Im a BM wrote: How much did Branner get paid to display the ad of my local restaurant?

I don't think he did. It's an automated process.

Im a BM wrote: This gives me an excuse to go order fish tacos and see who there knows how the restaurant contracts out its advertising.

The advertising was a success because it reached you. This process puts that restaurant's ad in front of everybody in your area, regardless of which websites they are visiting.

Branner does get paid by the adserver. That's why he puts the link on the site. It's not much, but it's enough to help pay the bills for running the place.

The adserver functions as IBDaMann describes it.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan

While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan




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