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Congressman who had second COVID-19 vaccine dose tests positive for virus.


Congressman who had second COVID-19 vaccine dose tests positive for virus.31-01-2021 05:39
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/congressman-second-covid-19-dose-tests-positive-virus

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31-01-2021 07:07
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Depending which vaccine, about 5% won't benefit from getting stuck, and that's just from the marketing hype. 95% effective is a very high number to claim, specially with limited studies. It's a two shot vaccine, so need at least two weeks after the second dose, to be fully effective. It's not the crap they inject into your arm, but the antibodies your immune system, hopefully produces, in response to have stuff shoved into your body, that doesn't belong.

Vaccines, are sort of like wearing a seat belt in a car. You really don't know if it's going to protect you, until after you get into an accident. It's usually better to not find out for sure. Just as many people die strapped in their cars, some of them are China Flu related...
31-01-2021 16:36
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Depending which vaccine, about 5% won't benefit from getting stuck, and that's just from the marketing hype. 95% effective is a very high number to claim, specially with limited studies. It's a two shot vaccine, so need at least two weeks after the second dose, to be fully effective. It's not the crap they inject into your arm, but the antibodies your immune system, hopefully produces, in response to have stuff shoved into your body, that doesn't belong.

Vaccines, are sort of like wearing a seat belt in a car. You really don't know if it's going to protect you, until after you get into an accident. It's usually better to not find out for sure. Just as many people die strapped in their cars, some of them are China Flu related...


And someone in California who had covid in December died 3 hours after getting the vaccine. Seriously Harvey you do not know anything on this topic, all you are doing is repeating the brainwashing that you received on TV. The fact is that the vaccines are killing people and there is no documentation of immunity at all.

Faucy said not to wear a mask, just hours before he said that you must wear a mask

Retards understand this, I do not
31-01-2021 20:19
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Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.
31-01-2021 20:22
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL
31-01-2021 20:39
Spongy Iris
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Wouldn't the virus stimulate your immune response better than the vaccine? I have more faith in the virus than the vaccine.


31-01-2021 20:52
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Spongy Iris wrote:
Wouldn't the virus stimulate your immune response better than the vaccine? I have more faith in the virus than the vaccine.


Can't tell you because I never had the vaccine but had the virus at least once
31-01-2021 21:07
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Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL


There are dozens of flu strains. About 17, are consider major threats. Our immune system can only produce antibodies for 6-7 different threats, at any time. They aren't just protecting us from viruses. The pick the 3-4 strains, a computer model, 'randomly' chooses as the most likely to be the most active. Their track record of predicting those strains correctly, is 17-30%. Herd immunity, isn't something you achieve, and it's game over. The game never ends, the viruses continue to play. All the basement-dwelling, masks, and other precautions, or taking away from the herd immunity, of other infectious diseases. Most pandemics take 2-3 years, before we can achieve herd immunity, and they aren't such a wide-spread problem. Herd immunity, depends on people continuing to get infected, or vaccinated, to maintain. We might kick China Flu butt, eventually, but we opened the door, for hundreds of other viruses, that were once under control. Some were a hell of a lot worse, than the China Virus. There are a couple of flu viruses, that killed people of any age group, and heath.

mRNA vaccines are relatively new, first wide-spread use, was during the Obama Flu, another China virus. That pandemic didn't really take off, since they didn't spread it around for months, before telling anyone.

I don't think anyone knows yet, how long it takes to destroy herd immunity, but the longer we keep focus on the China Flu, we are neglecting the protection we gained, for all the other viruses, which depended on people getting sick, and recovering. Expect things to get much worse...
31-01-2021 21:17
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL


There are dozens of flu strains. About 17, are consider major threats. Our immune system can only produce antibodies for 6-7 different threats, at any time. They aren't just protecting us from viruses. The pick the 3-4 strains, a computer model, 'randomly' chooses as the most likely to be the most active. Their track record of predicting those strains correctly, is 17-30%. Herd immunity, isn't something you achieve, and it's game over. The game never ends, the viruses continue to play. All the basement-dwelling, masks, and other precautions, or taking away from the herd immunity, of other infectious diseases. Most pandemics take 2-3 years, before we can achieve herd immunity, and they aren't such a wide-spread problem. Herd immunity, depends on people continuing to get infected, or vaccinated, to maintain. We might kick China Flu butt, eventually, but we opened the door, for hundreds of other viruses, that were once under control. Some were a hell of a lot worse, than the China Virus. There are a couple of flu viruses, that killed people of any age group, and heath.

mRNA vaccines are relatively new, first wide-spread use, was during the Obama Flu, another China virus. That pandemic didn't really take off, since they didn't spread it around for months, before telling anyone.

I don't think anyone knows yet, how long it takes to destroy herd immunity, but the longer we keep focus on the China Flu, we are neglecting the protection we gained, for all the other viruses, which depended on people getting sick, and recovering. Expect things to get much worse...


No one contracts 17 flu strains at once kid.

You are literally in la la land
01-02-2021 00:05
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL


There are dozens of flu strains. About 17, are consider major threats. Our immune system can only produce antibodies for 6-7 different threats, at any time. They aren't just protecting us from viruses. The pick the 3-4 strains, a computer model, 'randomly' chooses as the most likely to be the most active. Their track record of predicting those strains correctly, is 17-30%. Herd immunity, isn't something you achieve, and it's game over. The game never ends, the viruses continue to play. All the basement-dwelling, masks, and other precautions, or taking away from the herd immunity, of other infectious diseases. Most pandemics take 2-3 years, before we can achieve herd immunity, and they aren't such a wide-spread problem. Herd immunity, depends on people continuing to get infected, or vaccinated, to maintain. We might kick China Flu butt, eventually, but we opened the door, for hundreds of other viruses, that were once under control. Some were a hell of a lot worse, than the China Virus. There are a couple of flu viruses, that killed people of any age group, and heath.

mRNA vaccines are relatively new, first wide-spread use, was during the Obama Flu, another China virus. That pandemic didn't really take off, since they didn't spread it around for months, before telling anyone.

I don't think anyone knows yet, how long it takes to destroy herd immunity, but the longer we keep focus on the China Flu, we are neglecting the protection we gained, for all the other viruses, which depended on people getting sick, and recovering. Expect things to get much worse...

The human body is not limited to six or seven antibodies.
If you've contracted a virus in the past, your body already has antibodies for it.
Vaccinations teach your body how to build antibodies for a specific virus.

Antibodies do not prevent infection. They do not make you immune. You can still contract the virus. The overall effect is that the infection is fought off much more readily.


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01-02-2021 16:42
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Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

He was referencing your post, and you responded to him in a manner that showed that you understood that he was referencing your post. Quotations are not necessary in order to know which post is being responded to, although in certain instances they DO make it easier to tell. In that instance, you two were the only two who were engaging in dialogue so it was quite obvious.

Swan wrote:
They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL

The flu vaccine is not a placebo.
01-02-2021 18:53
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Into the Night wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL


There are dozens of flu strains. About 17, are consider major threats. Our immune system can only produce antibodies for 6-7 different threats, at any time. They aren't just protecting us from viruses. The pick the 3-4 strains, a computer model, 'randomly' chooses as the most likely to be the most active. Their track record of predicting those strains correctly, is 17-30%. Herd immunity, isn't something you achieve, and it's game over. The game never ends, the viruses continue to play. All the basement-dwelling, masks, and other precautions, or taking away from the herd immunity, of other infectious diseases. Most pandemics take 2-3 years, before we can achieve herd immunity, and they aren't such a wide-spread problem. Herd immunity, depends on people continuing to get infected, or vaccinated, to maintain. We might kick China Flu butt, eventually, but we opened the door, for hundreds of other viruses, that were once under control. Some were a hell of a lot worse, than the China Virus. There are a couple of flu viruses, that killed people of any age group, and heath.

mRNA vaccines are relatively new, first wide-spread use, was during the Obama Flu, another China virus. That pandemic didn't really take off, since they didn't spread it around for months, before telling anyone.

I don't think anyone knows yet, how long it takes to destroy herd immunity, but the longer we keep focus on the China Flu, we are neglecting the protection we gained, for all the other viruses, which depended on people getting sick, and recovering. Expect things to get much worse...

The human body is not limited to six or seven antibodies.
If you've contracted a virus in the past, your body already has antibodies for it.
Vaccinations teach your body how to build antibodies for a specific virus.

Antibodies do not prevent infection. They do not make you immune. You can still contract the virus. The overall effect is that the infection is fought off much more readily.


You miss read... It's create antibodies, for 6-7 threats. Past antibodies remain active. What it means is there are many different things that can trigger an immune response, but we can on deal with 6-7 new ones, at anytime. If the loaded up the Flu vaccine with 7 or more, some wouldn't take. You can be infected by more than one virus at a time.
01-02-2021 20:26
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gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

He was referencing your post, and you responded to him in a manner that showed that you understood that he was referencing your post. Quotations are not necessary in order to know which post is being responded to, although in certain instances they DO make it easier to tell. In that instance, you two were the only two who were engaging in dialogue so it was quite obvious.

Swan wrote:
They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL

The flu vaccine is not a placebo.

Yes it is for the new and current flu strain. Lol those who get it also have a higher incidence of the flu

Yawn
01-02-2021 21:11
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Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

He was referencing your post, and you responded to him in a manner that showed that you understood that he was referencing your post. Quotations are not necessary in order to know which post is being responded to, although in certain instances they DO make it easier to tell. In that instance, you two were the only two who were engaging in dialogue so it was quite obvious.

Swan wrote:
They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL

The flu vaccine is not a placebo.

Yes it is for the new and current flu strain. Lol those who get it also have a higher incidence of the flu

Yawn

What "new and current" flu strain? A placebo does not cause higher incidence of the flu. The flu vaccine is not a placebo.
01-02-2021 23:25
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

He was referencing your post, and you responded to him in a manner that showed that you understood that he was referencing your post. Quotations are not necessary in order to know which post is being responded to, although in certain instances they DO make it easier to tell. In that instance, you two were the only two who were engaging in dialogue so it was quite obvious.

Swan wrote:
They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL

The flu vaccine is not a placebo.

Yes it is for the new and current flu strain. Lol those who get it also have a higher incidence of the flu

Yawn

What "new and current" flu strain? A placebo does not cause higher incidence of the flu. The flu vaccine is not a placebo.



And yet Jesus was the placebo for Jews waiting for the Messiah. And in Hebrew Messiah means "teacher".
03-02-2021 06:14
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
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gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Nope, don't watch a lot of TV. People die from getting the flu vaccine every year, but they do broadcast that. Quite a few have violent reactions to the flu vaccine, and need hospitalized, every year. It's really common, for any medication or treatment, always some risk. An autopsy can actually take months to complete, and may still not provide answers. Takes 4-6 hours of slicing, just to get samples, and measurements. The lab work takes a lot of time, some test can't be done in just one day. You do realize that there are people still dying for the more traditional reasons. China Flu isn't they only cause of death, or even the most common? You seem to be more caught up in the media hype and hysteria. There were 17 people, live, on camera, getting their first dose, who collapsed, and needed emergency attention, before they stopped live broadcasting those 'historic' first dose stories. Partly, because most places have given out thousands of doses. Do you think people stopped collapsing, minutes after getting the shot? It's still the same vaccine, the same dosage. I'm just not prone to panic, buy media hype, fear mongering. China Flu, doesn't really rise to the seriousness, to require a vaccine, or these regulations and guidelines. Most people recover, and no medical intervention required, about 96% of the confirmed cases.


Harvey you have no quoted anyone so no one understands who's post you are referencing.

He was referencing your post, and you responded to him in a manner that showed that you understood that he was referencing your post. Quotations are not necessary in order to know which post is being responded to, although in certain instances they DO make it easier to tell. In that instance, you two were the only two who were engaging in dialogue so it was quite obvious.

Swan wrote:
They are vaccinating people in cars and making them wait 30 minutes to see if they die opposed to driving away and killing other people as well.

The flu vaccine is a placebo as it offers no protection from the active strain of the flu

LOL

The flu vaccine is not a placebo.

Yes it is for the new and current flu strain. Lol those who get it also have a higher incidence of the flu

Yawn

What "new and current" flu strain? A placebo does not cause higher incidence of the flu. The flu vaccine is not a placebo.


There is a new flu strain every year, always was kid. So your flu shot only protects you from last years strain which makes your new shot a placebo to the new strain.

Rant on, you will never have even a hint of a clue as zombies like you never do
03-02-2021 17:01
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Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
What "new and current" flu strain? A placebo does not cause higher incidence of the flu. The flu vaccine is not a placebo.


There is a new flu strain every year, always was kid.

Different flu strains are more/less prevalent each year, but that does not make them a new strain... kid.

Swan wrote:
So your flu shot only protects you from last years strain

There isn't a such thing as "last year's strain", as multiple strains exist and become prevalent each and every year. A flu shot attempts to artificially expose people to a handful of selected strains (usually three, or even four) that are thought to become prevalent during the upcoming flu season.

I've only ever gotten a flu shot twice (the prior flu season, and the flu season before that one). I did not become infected with the flu during those two flu seasons, but I also have not become infected with the flu during this flu season to date, and did not become infected for numerous flu seasons prior to the seasons that I received a flu shot. The last time that I was infected with the flu was probably about seven or eight years ago. I have chosen to revert back to my old ways and to not bother with getting a flu shot.

Swan wrote:
which makes your new shot a placebo to the new strain.

What "new strain"?

Swan wrote:
Rant on, you will never have even a hint of a clue as zombies like you never do

The only person ranting here is you...
04-02-2021 01:12
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
What "new and current" flu strain? A placebo does not cause higher incidence of the flu. The flu vaccine is not a placebo.


There is a new flu strain every year, always was kid.

Different flu strains are more/less prevalent each year, but that does not make them a new strain... kid.

Swan wrote:
So your flu shot only protects you from last years strain

There isn't a such thing as "last year's strain", as multiple strains exist and become prevalent each and every year. A flu shot attempts to artificially expose people to a handful of selected strains (usually three, or even four) that are thought to become prevalent during the upcoming flu season.

I've only ever gotten a flu shot twice (the prior flu season, and the flu season before that one). I did not become infected with the flu during those two flu seasons, but I also have not become infected with the flu during this flu season to date, and did not become infected for numerous flu seasons prior to the seasons that I received a flu shot. The last time that I was infected with the flu was probably about seven or eight years ago. I have chosen to revert back to my old ways and to not bother with getting a flu shot.

Swan wrote:
which makes your new shot a placebo to the new strain.

What "new strain"?

Swan wrote:
Rant on, you will never have even a hint of a clue as zombies like you never do

The only person ranting here is you...


Dude there is such a thing as last years flu strain which is why a new vaccine is created every year.

Why do I need to get vaccinated every year?
Because flu viruses evolve so quickly, last year's vaccine may not protect you from this year's viruses. New flu vaccines are released every year to keep up with rapidly adapting flu viruses.

When you get vaccinated, your immune system produces antibodies to protect you from the viruses included in the vaccine. But antibody levels may decline over time — another reason to get a flu shot every year.

I wonder if a human can really be this ignorant?
04-02-2021 03:23
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(9190)
Swan wrote: I wonder if a human can really be this ignorant?

Thank you for motivating me to jump into this conversation.

When you assert that a new "strain" of virus sprouts every year, what do you mean by that? Is it a new race of virus? What do you mean biologically?

If I were to get vaccinated for last year's race of virus, would I develop zero resistance to this year's race of virus?

I hope you don't consider me to be a STRAINIST for asking these questions but you are the consummate genius on the matter so I want to go directly to the brilliance.


.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
04-02-2021 16:17
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I wonder if a human can really be this ignorant?

Thank you for motivating me to jump into this conversation.

When you assert that a new "strain" of virus sprouts every year, what do you mean by that? Is it a new race of virus? What do you mean biologically?

If I were to get vaccinated for last year's race of virus, would I develop zero resistance to this year's race of virus?

I hope you don't consider me to be a STRAINIST for asking these questions but you are the consummate genius on the matter so I want to go directly to the brilliance.
The new and mutated flu strain that appears every year is sufficiently different enough to be resistant to the previous vaccine requiring a new vaccine that takes a year or so to be developed and tested so by the time the new vaccine is in the hands of medicine the new virus is immune to the effects of the vaccine.

Everyone knows this just like everyone known that 80000 Americans died from the flu WITH A VACCINE in 2018

So play on

.
04-02-2021 16:37
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(9190)
Swan wrote: The new and mutated flu strain that appears every year is sufficiently different enough to be resistant to the previous vaccine

This is not an answer to any question I asked and is an answer to no question that I asked.

Please try again.

.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
04-02-2021 17:44
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: The new and mutated flu strain that appears every year is sufficiently different enough to be resistant to the previous vaccine

This is not an answer to any question I asked and is an answer to no question that I asked.

Please try again.

.


I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

When you leave la la land please try to comprehend again

Medication might help, however nothing can ever lift you to my rank
Edited on 04-02-2021 18:03
04-02-2021 22:06
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
(2107)
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
What "new and current" flu strain? A placebo does not cause higher incidence of the flu. The flu vaccine is not a placebo.


There is a new flu strain every year, always was kid.

Different flu strains are more/less prevalent each year, but that does not make them a new strain... kid.

Swan wrote:
So your flu shot only protects you from last years strain

There isn't a such thing as "last year's strain", as multiple strains exist and become prevalent each and every year. A flu shot attempts to artificially expose people to a handful of selected strains (usually three, or even four) that are thought to become prevalent during the upcoming flu season.

I've only ever gotten a flu shot twice (the prior flu season, and the flu season before that one). I did not become infected with the flu during those two flu seasons, but I also have not become infected with the flu during this flu season to date, and did not become infected for numerous flu seasons prior to the seasons that I received a flu shot. The last time that I was infected with the flu was probably about seven or eight years ago. I have chosen to revert back to my old ways and to not bother with getting a flu shot.

Swan wrote:
which makes your new shot a placebo to the new strain.

What "new strain"?

Swan wrote:
Rant on, you will never have even a hint of a clue as zombies like you never do

The only person ranting here is you...


Dude there is such a thing as last years flu strain

I have no idea what you are trying to say, dude... The way that I am understanding it, there is no such thing.

Swan wrote:
which is why a new vaccine is created every year.

I already addressed this in a prior response, so I won't repeat my words here.

Swan wrote:
Why do I need to get vaccinated every year?

Do you consider a flu vaccine a "need"? I don't...

Swan wrote:
Because flu viruses evolve so quickly, last year's vaccine may not protect you from this year's viruses. New flu vaccines are released every year to keep up with rapidly adapting flu viruses.

Addressed in a prior response.

Swan wrote:
When you get vaccinated, your immune system produces antibodies to protect you from the viruses included in the vaccine. But antibody levels may decline over time — another reason to get a flu shot every year.

You seem to be forgetting about natural exposure to viruses...

Swan wrote:
I wonder if a human can really be this ignorant?

Yes, you definitely CAN be...
04-02-2021 22:14
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
(2107)
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I wonder if a human can really be this ignorant?

Thank you for motivating me to jump into this conversation.

When you assert that a new "strain" of virus sprouts every year, what do you mean by that? Is it a new race of virus? What do you mean biologically?

If I were to get vaccinated for last year's race of virus, would I develop zero resistance to this year's race of virus?

I hope you don't consider me to be a STRAINIST for asking these questions but you are the consummate genius on the matter so I want to go directly to the brilliance.


The new and mutated flu strain that appears every year is sufficiently different enough to be resistant to the previous vaccine requiring a new vaccine that takes a year or so to be developed and tested so by the time the new vaccine is in the hands of medicine the new virus is immune to the effects of the vaccine.

What "new and mutated" flu strain that "appears every year" are you talking about? You're using words but you aren't saying anything meaningful... Surely you must be able to identify these "new and mutated" flu strains that "appear every year"... H1N1? H3N1? H1N3?

Swan wrote:
Everyone knows this

... of course they do...


Swan wrote:
just like everyone known that 80000 Americans died from the flu WITH A VACCINE in 2018

Did they? I suppose you're also going to tell me that "expert scientists" say that the death toll would have been higher without a vaccine, right?

Swan wrote:
So play on

.
[/quote]
You are stuck on moron.
04-02-2021 22:48
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I wonder if a human can really be this ignorant?

Thank you for motivating me to jump into this conversation.

When you assert that a new "strain" of virus sprouts every year, what do you mean by that? Is it a new race of virus? What do you mean biologically?

If I were to get vaccinated for last year's race of virus, would I develop zero resistance to this year's race of virus?

I hope you don't consider me to be a STRAINIST for asking these questions but you are the consummate genius on the matter so I want to go directly to the brilliance.


The new and mutated flu strain that appears every year is sufficiently different enough to be resistant to the previous vaccine requiring a new vaccine that takes a year or so to be developed and tested so by the time the new vaccine is in the hands of medicine the new virus is immune to the effects of the vaccine.

What "new and mutated" flu strain that "appears every year" are you talking about? You're using words but you aren't saying anything meaningful... Surely you must be able to identify these "new and mutated" flu strains that "appear every year"... H1N1? H3N1? H1N3?

Swan wrote:
Everyone knows this

... of course they do...


Swan wrote:
just like everyone known that 80000 Americans died from the flu WITH A VACCINE in 2018

Did they? I suppose you're also going to tell me that "expert scientists" say that the death toll would have been higher without a vaccine, right?

Swan wrote:
So play on

.

You are stuck on moron.[/quote]

LOL that is what the FBI thought too.

Yawn
04-02-2021 22:54
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(9190)
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
04-02-2021 23:13
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


If an idiot ask an idiotic question I am not required to answer it. That said I am not actually required to answer any questions to anyone anywhere.

Schizzos will disagree
04-02-2021 23:39
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
(2107)
Swan wrote:
LOL that is what the FBI thought too.

Yawn

LOL care to respond to my question?

Yawn
04-02-2021 23:40
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★★
(2107)
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


If an idiot ask an idiotic question I am not required to answer it. That said I am not actually required to answer any questions to anyone anywhere.

Schizzos will disagree

So you are solely here to preach your religious ramblings??
Edited on 04-02-2021 23:41
04-02-2021 23:50
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


If an idiot ask an idiotic question I am not required to answer it. That said I am not actually required to answer any questions to anyone anywhere.

Schizzos will disagree

So you are solely here to preach your religious ramblings??


I preached no religion, here.
05-02-2021 00:51
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(15559)
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: The new and mutated flu strain that appears every year is sufficiently different enough to be resistant to the previous vaccine

This is not an answer to any question I asked and is an answer to no question that I asked.

Please try again.

.


I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

When you leave la la land please try to comprehend again

Medication might help, however nothing can ever lift you to my rank

Lie. Pivot fallacies. Inversion fallacy. Psychoquackery. Assumption of victory fallacy.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
05-02-2021 00:52
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(15559)
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


If an idiot ask an idiotic question I am not required to answer it. That said I am not actually required to answer any questions to anyone anywhere.

Schizzos will disagree


Then you r argument is void. Sorry dude, but that's the choice you get.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
05-02-2021 00:54
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
(15559)
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


If an idiot ask an idiotic question I am not required to answer it. That said I am not actually required to answer any questions to anyone anywhere.

Schizzos will disagree

So you are solely here to preach your religious ramblings??


I preached no religion, here.

The Church of Covid.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit

nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan
05-02-2021 02:25
SwanProfile picture★★★☆☆
(569)
Into the Night wrote:
Swan wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
Swan wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
Swan wrote: I did answer your question perfectly but you live in la la land.

I realize you think so, but you didn't answer my question and instead answered some other question about virus resistance that I did not ask.

I take it you fully intend to EVADE my question(s). Fine.


.


If an idiot ask an idiotic question I am not required to answer it. That said I am not actually required to answer any questions to anyone anywhere.

Schizzos will disagree

So you are solely here to preach your religious ramblings??


I preached no religion, here.

The Church of Covid.


What did I preach about covid?




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