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CO2 saturated water09-08-2019 00:22
olyz
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I think one can safely assume carbonated water is saturated with CO2. When you unscrew it, gas escapes.
Tastes fine to me- no damage to my sensitive internal organs.

Why don't environmental scientists do some simple experiments? Take a tank of sea water and put some fish, claims, and sea shells in it. Bubble CO2 through it and watch what happens. And some air of course.
09-08-2019 02:19
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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olyz wrote:Why don't environmental scientists do some simple experiments?

... because the Climate Scientists that you really mean aren't scientists and actually avoid science like they avoid drinking battery acid. Climate Scientists don't do anything for the purpose of learning; they dedicate their efforts to preaching their dogma.

olyz wrote:Take a tank of sea water and put some fish, claims, and sea shells in it. Bubble CO2 through it and watch what happens. And some air of course.

What, exactly, would this accomplish, by the way?


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09-08-2019 03:19
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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olyz wrote:
no damage to my sensitive internal organs.


I think you're question implies that some dramatic result is premissed on the ACIDIFICATION OF THE OCEANS!!!

Granted the title is badass, sounds like serious action but the premiss is:
acidification would result in depressing metabolic rates and immune responses in some organisms

The problem with these claims (and they may be right but it's still a problem) is that the "effects" anticipated are so mild on a small scale that their not materializing can't be cited as contrary evidence.

All that said it does seem very doable to simulate these things in an aquarium. But nothing popped up when I looked.
09-08-2019 03:46
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:I think you're question implies that some dramatic result is premissed on the ACIDIFICATION OF THE OCEANS!!!

Granted the title is badass, sounds like serious action but the premiss is:
acidification would result in depressing metabolic rates and immune responses in some organisms

The premise is pure fear-mongering, that the oceans are transforming into caustic chemicals. The purpose, of course, is to generate panic.

tmiddles wrote:The problem with these claims (and they may be right but it's still a problem) is that the "effects" anticipated are so mild on a small scale that their not materializing can't be cited as contrary evidence.

Nope. The problem with these claims is that they are pure gibber-babble that defy chemistry.

The oceans have never acidified, hence there has never been ocean acidification.

If a pH value moves towards "7.0" then it is "neutralizing" ... not "acidifying."

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere will not affect the pH of the ocean. Precipitation that might very well become acidic because of atmospheric CO2, loses that acidity when it eventually evaporates and releases the gas back into the atmosphere. Ergo, it is a cycle, not an accumulation.

"Coral bleaching" is hype to promote fear. No bleach or any other chemicals are involved. The term should be coral "whitening." In English, we only refer to whitening as "bleaching" when the whitening is caused by bleach (or some chemical). You get your teeth whitened, not bleached. You do, however, bleach your clothes to get them white ... which necessarily involves bleach.

Corals whiten simply because they expel algae (zooxanthellae). Eventually the algae return as does the corals' color.

All the coral reefs that are supposedly being devastated by "ocean acidification" are all actually doing fine.

There is nothing honest about "ocean acidification" preachers.

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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
09-08-2019 06:43
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
If a pH value moves towards "7.0" then it is "neutralizing" ... not "acidifying."


ooh! Good point.

OUR OCEANS ARE BECOME LESS LIKE AMMONIA AND BEING NEUTRALIZED, OR MELLOWED OUT, BY CO2

Doesn't have the same ring to it

Yeah it's a horrible abuse of public trust.




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